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Picked up my new Note 3 today.
Oh so cool!!!!!!
Sorry, really excited
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Grats... just that we're not that lucky to get that model in india we have only N9000 note 3. But nonetheless grats again n enjoy
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Congrats and enjoy. Make sure to look on the forum and YouTube to learn what the phone can really do.
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congrats!! I got mine 1 week ago, very happy with it, not a single complain, everything as good ss expected, nice screen, good sound, long lasting battery, quick and nimble responses, as a bonus, the screen is very grease resistant, my former phone was a S3, I had to clean it several times a day, the note 3 barely shows any fingerprint, Im very happy with this phone
All is well and good until Samsung's new annoying security features start haunting you! Lol! Note 3 is Awesome, But sadly, it could be my Last Samsung Phone....
stanley08 said:
All is well and good until Samsung's new annoying security features start haunting you! Lol! Note 3 is Awesome, But sadly, it could be my Last Samsung Phone....
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Looking to buy this phone but not sure what you mean by the new annoying security features? Can you explain, please ?
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Looking to buy this phone but not sure what you mean by the new annoying security features? Can you explain, please ?
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Samsung KNOX - http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/10/22/samsung-knox/
Basically if you trigger KNOX by flashing custom ROM's or rooting via a certain way you Void your warranty.
Plus it suffers from REGION LOCK which means you cannot use outside of the region you buy it in unless it has been deactivated, or bypassed. (Note: some don't have region lock on them)
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Samsung KNOX - http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/10/22/samsung-knox/
Basically if you trigger KNOX by flashing custom ROM's or rooting via a certain way you Void your warranty.
Plus it suffers from REGION LOCK which means you cannot use outside of the region you buy it in unless it has been deactivated, or bypassed. (Note: some don't have region lock on them)
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Has anyone installed the knox browser and used it? What is the point in it?
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My other phone's a Ferrari.
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Has anyone installed the knox browser and used it? What is the point in it?
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My other phone's a Ferrari.
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It's just a secure container, mainly designed for business use and IT Managers and such. It can put data on a secure part of the phone also which no one can access except you. If you are rooted, your KNOX becomes void, therefore secure container can no longer be guaranteed secure.
I did not recive mine N9005 yet, so I dont know which rom on it
but I read that flashing or rooting will void the warranty, with my old note 1 flashing the stock rom will return device to official state, is it the same with note 3?
congrats on ur note 3! have fun! make sure u explore and find just how useful and awesome the s pen and the features made for it are!
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@radicalisto said it all!
Thanks guys! by the way, I'll be in Canada soon and I'll probably get it there. Can I still root it safely or that will void warranty? Is it better to buy one that is unlocked already?
Thanks for the replies everyone. Been loving it, don't feel the need to root it yet is awesome stock.
Gonna watch a few videos and see if I can find some cool tips or tricks.
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Just got my note 3 yesterday from Verizon I traded my nexus 4 in and only paid $95 for it.
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Note 5 in my hands in 45 minutes. Hope root is available by the end of the weekend
Just remember, if you disable knox. Samsung pay will never work on the phone again.
I dont use SS pay so thats ok
haha same here, I'm really hoping for root soon as well. I'm hoping that due to the similarities with the S6 family it'll be available quickly. Really loving the phone though, my only real complaint with my S6 was the screen was just a touch too small. The Note is absolutely outstanding and despite it's size it feels much smaller in the hand. Feels WAY smaller than the Note 4 and the G4.
Hey dear my samsung s3 how to use flash
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dickosta said:
Hey dear my samsung s3 how to use flash
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What What??
Suzook1 said:
I dont use SS pay so thats ok
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boosting1bar said:
haha same here, I'm really hoping for root soon as well. I'm hoping that due to the similarities with the S6 family it'll be available quickly. Really loving the phone though, my only real complaint with my S6 was the screen was just a touch too small. The Note is absolutely outstanding and despite it's size it feels much smaller in the hand. Feels WAY smaller than the Note 4 and the G4.
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Well, Samsung pay isn't out yet. I was just mentioning if you disable knox now, you wont be able to use Samsung Pay when its released Sept. 28th and there is no way to re-enable knox. But I do understand the want for root. I haven't had a phone without adblocker in ages!
Should have root tonight or tomorrow. Pre-rooted images are being made. Sprint has one already. Head over to the Dev section of the international version and stay updated.
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Do you have to flash carrier specific images?
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Do you have to flash carrier specific images?
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Yes. Waiting for someone to report back the Sprint image.
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YellowGTO said:
Just remember, if you disable knox. Samsung pay will never work on the phone again.
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Your statement is incorrect... If you disable knox you can flash the stock firmware and knox + samsung pay will work like normal. If you trip the knox counter from 0x0 to 0x1 then you will no longer be able use samsung pay.
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Your statement is incorrect... If you disable knox you can flash the stock firmware and knox + samsung pay will work like normal. If you trip the knox counter from 0x0 to 0x1 then you will no longer be able use samsung pay.
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Your statement is self contradicting - Flashing back to stock does not reset Knox Counter. Disabling does not stop it from tripping the counter
Hello everyone,
I've been hopping around, trying to do some research on this but decided to make a post to confirm and also in hopes of informing others.
Is it true that once rooting the Note 5, we permanently lose Samsung Pay abilities due to tripping the KNOX meter?
Thanks!
Yes, the way Samsung designed Samsung pay is to make it as secure as possible, and unfortunately that includes blocking access on modded devices. Is there a way around this? I belive it would have to involve tricking Knox and I don't think it will be easy.
With that said, the galaxy s6 had a root that didn't trip knox. Even still, had to be extremely careful after that with flashing roms and such but it was b possible.
It's really the only thing that's going to make me think twice about rooting.
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Indeed. I know there are alternatives like PayPal but what about Android Pay? Will we still be able to use that as an alternative, after root?
I dug around the Korean Samsung pay apk that's floating around and I found where it's doing that check, it's just a matter of disabling it and seeing it it works. Also, the string says something to the effect of "this application won't work on rooted devices for security, please unroot your device to use Samsung pay". Notice it says unroot. We'll see what the reality is when we get our hands on the final US apk.
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This is my only concern at this point. While I don't know for sure how much if at all I'll be using Samsung Pay, I don't want to root and trip Knox quite yet so I can at least try it when it's released.
You guys are exactly in my situation. I want root but i think samsung pay might be a nice feature.. speacially sonce it works anywhere eith a card reader, not just tap and go.. only if they swipe only. Some how samsung pay still works... thats awesome
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egren58 said:
You guys are exactly in my situation. I want root but i think samsung pay might be a nice feature.. speacially sonce it works anywhere eith a card reader, not just tap and go.. only if they swipe only. Some how samsung pay still works... thats awesome
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It has a magnet that emukayes your cards magnetic strip
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It has a magnet that emukayes your cards magnetic strip
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All i know is thats awsome
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What about if we used root cloak and or Xprivacy on xposed to hide detection of root or somthing? Maybe somone needs to create an app like root cloak that his the detection of it checking if you tripped Knox? Also why is everyone so worried about Samsung Pay Google Wallet allows you to use the app on rooted debices and it does the NFC paying and they send you a physical debit card. You can even send money to people through the app too.
Does Samsung Pay have some extra cool feature that Google Wallet Doesn't? I'm just asking cause I haven't looked into Samsung Pay. In my opinion if a pay system app can't be used on r root I'm not sure if I trust the app because they might think it will be hacked but they need to make it secure on all aspects.
I've been accepted into Samsung Pay beta testing and unfortunately since I've tripped knox this is what happens. I have the apk files for both the app and framework.
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What about if we used root cloak and or Xprivacy on xposed to hide detection of root or somthing? Maybe somone needs to create an app like root cloak that his the detection of it checking if you tripped Knox? Also why is everyone so worried about Samsung Pay Google Wallet allows you to use the app on rooted debices and it does the NFC paying and they send you a physical debit card. You can even send money to people through the app too.
Does Samsung Pay have some extra cool feature that Google Wallet Doesn't? I'm just asking cause I haven't looked into Samsung Pay. In my opinion if a pay system app can't be used on r root I'm not sure if I trust the app because they might think it will be hacked but they need to make it secure on all aspects.
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I agree 1,000%. Google Wallet is accepted at a lot of places and works well while rooted. If I have to part with Samsung Pay to 1) Turn the camera shutter sound off on my phone via Root Explorer...2) Disable a bunch of Samsung bloat I don't use...3) Have the ability to back up my apps and data as well as restore them...4)Customize my phone using XPosed and Wanam on a deodexed stock rom...etc, then it's not even a close trade off. I'm going with root 3 times out of 4.
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Does Samsung Pay have some extra cool feature that Google Wallet Doesn't? I'm just asking cause I haven't looked into Samsung Pay. In my opinion if a pay system app can't be used on r root I'm not sure if I trust the app because they might think it will be hacked but they need to make it secure on all aspects.
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Yes, Samsung Pay uses MST (magnetic secure transmission), aka the tech they acquired from LoopPay. This allows you to use your phone to pay at terminals, even if they don't have NFC. It'll emulate the magnetic field created when you physically swipe your card. So, basically it'll work in most places that Google Wallet (or Apple Pay) won't.
Sure, you can just use the Google Wallet card, but if you have it connected to multiple accounts, it's not always easy to remember which one is set as default or to change on the fly the one you want to use. At least with Samsung Pay & the Wallet app, I can choose my card on the fly.
I'm in the beta and raring to go. Sadly my BoA debit card was compromised earlier in the week and so I have to wait for the new one to arrive before I can test.
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I've been accepted into Samsung Pay beta testing and unfortunately since I've tripped knox this is what happens. I have the apk files for both the app and framework.
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Did you try odin back to stock and activating Samsung Pay? If not, can you try it out and let us know the results?
I got into Samsung Pay today but too sick to go try it out somewhere.
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Did you try odin back to stock and activating Samsung Pay? If not, can you try it out and let us know the results?
I got into Samsung Pay today but too sick to go try it out somewhere.
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Any update? Did you ever try it?
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LaRosa217 said:
Yes, Samsung Pay uses MST (magnetic secure transmission), aka the tech they acquired from LoopPay. This allows you to use your phone to pay at terminals, even if they don't have NFC. It'll emulate the magnetic field created when you physically swipe your card. So, basically it'll work in most places that Google Wallet (or Apple Pay) won't.
Sure, you can just use the Google Wallet card, but if you have it connected to multiple accounts, it's not always easy to remember which one is set as default or to change on the fly the one you want to use. At least with Samsung Pay & the Wallet app, I can choose my card on the fly.
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So I too have been accepted to the beta for Samsung pay. The only issue is I don't have any qualifying debit or credit cards to add because they don't have that many the day except at this time which is kind of dumb. But you spoke of LoopPay and I had also read that Samsung had acquired that or something like that so I checked in Google Play and sure enough LoopPay is still there so I thought hey if they have this cool feature where you can just use existing card readers and phone acts as a magnetic strip and seeing how the new Samsung phones have a feature built in and that it's possible that it works if you're rooted or if it doesn't it probably just checks for root and in theory you could just use root cloak to hide your route for the app so I thought why not download LoopPay.
So I downloaded Lupe installed it I'm verified my information but then when I go to add cards it says you currently don't have a connecting device to add a card because with LoopPay it requires you to buy a fob that plugs in to where the 3.5 mm or you can also use a card reader in the 3.5 mm which costs around 40 or 50 bucks. If the LoopPay hardware is built into our devices why does it ask me to have these add ons hooked into the 3.5 mm? Why would they do this? that seems pretty stupid if you ask me.
Maybe they can update LoopPay to not have to have the additional hardware that you need to buy. As far as what I've been saying about the app there's no information in Google Play saying that they are emerging over the Samsung pay for that the apps closing but I could be or they just haven't released anything yet. But it would be kind of a stupid move to murder / to Samsung pay for everyone because not everybody has a Samsung device and won't be able to use samsung pay so maybe that's why is not changing or merging.
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I agree 1,000%. Google Wallet is accepted at a lot of places and works well while rooted. If I have to part with Samsung Pay to 1) Turn the camera shutter sound off on my phone via Root Explorer...2) Disable a bunch of Samsung bloat I don't use...3) Have the ability to back up my apps and data as well as restore them...4)Customize my phone using XPosed and Wanam on a deodexed stock rom...etc, then it's not even a close trade off. I'm going with root 3 times out of 4.
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Just wanted to give you a heads up that you can disable the camera shutter sound even if your bone stock or rooted just by going into the camera settings scrolling to the bottom and tapping the disable shutter sound button. Atleast Its def been in my camera app since the day I purchased my phone. Any who just wanted to point that out. Thanks
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Just wanted to give you a heads up that you can disable the camera shutter sound even if your bone stock or rooted just by going into the camera settings scrolling to the bottom and tapping the disable shutter sound button. Atleast Its def been in my camera app since the day I purchased my phone. Any who just wanted to point that out. Thanks
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I definitely don't have it. Its all good though. I have the Sprint variant of the phone.
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I definitely don't have it. Its all good though. I have the Sprint variant of the phone.
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Oh that makes sense, bring your Sprint device into a T-Mobile thread and complain
On a serious note, it seems like Sprint takes out quite a few features, kinda sucks. A simple feature for muting the shutter sound? Why remove?
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Oh that makes sense, bring your Sprint device into a T-Mobile thread and complain [emoji14]
On a serious note, it seems like Sprint takes out quite a few features, kinda sucks. A simple feature for muting the shutter sound? Why remove?
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Actually I was just speaking in general as far as people justifying why they root. Its pretty universal as far as what you can and can't do. ?
I actually haven't owned a Samsung device where you could turn the shutter sound off for Sprint. The last one I could was the HTC EVO LTE. Its an easy fix once rooted though. My Gear 2 had no shutter sound option either. I had to root it in order to turn it off. Its something about privacy or something like that. I can easily turn the volume on my Ringer to silent and it will remedy that problem.
I know i may get some slack for this post but is it realistically possible that someone could find a root method that doesnt trip knox. My last device was a note 3 so i havent followed whether the s5, note 4 or s6 have acheived this. I like the idea of samsung pay (even though im in the beta and it doesnt work with my car) and im hoping it works with my card once the app is public. I cant live with a phone that cant run a custom rom but if i at least have root i feel like i could manage. So am i just being stupid and say screw samsung pay or is their a real possiblity that someone could find root without the knox trip.
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Would be nice, but. Samsung pay isn't working for me on any card I have. So I'm about to pull the trigger on Knox , and get new recovery and flash deodex rom.
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Would be nice, but. Samsung pay isn't working for me on any card I have. So I'm about to pull the trigger on Knox , and get new recovery and flash deodex rom.
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It only works for Bank of America or US Bank cards now I believe although there is support for Amex, Visa and Mastercard. They will probably be up and running once Samsung Pay is officially launched on the 28th. I can tell you this. Samsung Pay is a battery hog. It runs all the time unlike Google Wallet that you open when you need it. And the way you unlock your phone is tied into Samsung Pay. For example, if you select fingerprint scanner for Samsung Pay it automatically becomes the lockscreen default to unlock the phone. So if you want a pattern to unlock your phone you have to change it in Samsung Pay to unlock the device. You can't have both. Well at least when I tried you couldn't. LoL
I dont think enough devs have a note 5, i would guess something may come out of another phone maybe and translate over. I'm in the same boat, my n3 was rooted right away once I was convinced sprint wasnt going to deny a warranty claim over knox. I'm kinda holding out for s pay, but if it sounds like a bunch of brain damage....
Actually just thought of something, I use drive through and eat at bars and restaurants a lot, not keen on handing my phone to someone, probably gonna pass on s pay...
juvenile43 said:
I know i may get some slack for this post but is it realistically possible that someone could find a root method that doesnt trip knox. My last device was a note 3 so i havent followed whether the s5, note 4 or s6 have acheived this. I like the idea of samsung pay (even though im in the beta and it doesnt work with my car) and im hoping it works with my card once the app is public. I cant live with a phone that cant run a custom rom but if i at least have root i feel like i could manage. So am i just being stupid and say screw samsung pay or is their a real possiblity that someone could find root without the knox trip.
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check out king root. I've recently seen a post and it claims to not trip Knox.
You may want to search xda.
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check out king root. I've recently seen a post and it claims to not trip Knox.
You may want to search xda.
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That would be amazing. Thanks for the heads up. I looked through a couple pages of the kingroot main thread and couldnt find anything. Will keep searching.
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Im guessing no one else has found any data to support this. I would assume someone would be talking about it by now....but, it seems development is kinda slow (absolutely no disrespect intended) or the possiblity is people who want root are not concerned about knox so there hasnt been alot of interest. From what i can tell though is kingroot was for earlier devices and doesnt even work on an updated note 4 let alone a 5. Someone tell me im wrong. Im offereing 20 bucks for a root method. lol i know thats weak but maybe other people will join me. Thanks to anyone that looks into this.
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Also offering 20 bux to developer for root method that don't trip Knox on 5.1.1 sprint s6 edge plus
I actually have many compatible Samsung Pay cards and am enjoying the service... really don't want to lose it. Hopefully someone comes up with something.
Don't think it will ever happen!!!!!!
My money is burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be sent to the person that successfully obtains permanent root WITHOUT tripping the dreadful knox! $10 $20 $30 $40????
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My money is burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be sent to the person that successfully obtains permanent root WITHOUT tripping the dreadful knox! $10 $20 $30 $40????
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Better keep your money don't think it will ever happen
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Better keep your money don't think it will ever happen
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https://youtu.be/ddsZTFSfXaw
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Im guessing no one else has found any data to support this. I would assume someone would be talking about it by now....but, it seems development is kinda slow (absolutely no disrespect intended) or the possiblity is people who want root are not concerned about knox so there hasnt been alot of interest. From what i can tell though is kingroot was for earlier devices and doesnt even work on an updated note 4 let alone a 5. Someone tell me im wrong. Im offereing 20 bucks for a root method. lol i know thats weak but maybe other people will join me. Thanks to anyone that looks into this.
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I have a T567V Verizon tab E that is a Farley new device and although king root said it didn't have a root method I was able to continue and get root on a Verizon without tripping Knox so see no reason it would on the note 5
Tried it and it seems it does not work. Seemed to good to be true
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why not just trip the knox and use google pay or other services out there? for me rooting and being able to customize and overclock is the priority than samsung pay..ill just use google pay instead
Having to switch kernals everytime i need to use gearvr is whats kinda stopping me. Also i thought android pay now detects all root even "systemless"
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Hi,
Does anybody know hoe to get Android Pay working on the S7?
It seems on other devices you can simply disable SuperSU to add cards/use app but doesnt seem to work on S7.
Has anybody found a solution for our device?
TIA
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Hi,
Does anybody know hoe to get Android Pay working on the S7?
It seems on other devices you can simply disable SuperSU to add cards/use app but doesnt seem to work on S7.
Has anybody found a solution for our device?
TIA
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Well, I don't use android pay myself, but there is an xposed module called "XTouchwiz" where you can fake the system status and set it to official. It might work, so go and give it a try.
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Well, I don't use android pay myself, but there is an xposed module called "XTouchwiz" where you can fake the system status and set it to official. It might work, so go and give it a try.
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Thanks it worked
Unfortunately it seems that Natwest isn't supporting Android Pay yet.
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Thanks it worked
Unfortunately it seems that Natwest isn't supporting Android Pay yet.
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RBS doesn't either, how frustrating! I only have an RBS Visa debit and an Amex, looks like Android Pay isn't meant to be for me.
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Samsung pay seems to use different cards, might be listed there
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RBS doesn't either, how frustrating! I only have an RBS Visa debit and an Amex, looks like Android Pay isn't meant to be for me.
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In UK we can switch banks/debits etc very quickly now. All balances/debit agreements are transferred automatically. I'll be moving banks on Monday.
Natwest still have not made announcement on date of adding Android Pay. It's utter incompetence in my opinion not to support it at launch yet they're proudly saying they're the first to support fingerprint.
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Samsung pay seems to use different cards, might be listed there
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You can not use Samsung Pay once Knox has been tripped. There is no fix/solution to bypassing Knox check as far as I am aware.
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...........You can not use Samsung Pay once Knox has been tripped. There is no fix/solution to bypassing Knox check as far as I am aware.
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ahh, but android pay you can ??
TheATHEiST said:
In UK we can switch banks/debits etc very quickly now. All balances/debit agreements are transferred automatically. I'll be moving banks on Monday.
Natwest still have not made announcement on date of adding Android Pay. It's utter incompetence in my opinion not to support it at launch yet they're proudly saying they're the first to support fingerprint.
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I decided to move to Nationwide, better ISA interest rates, contactless debit card and Android Pay. Makes sense. Anyway, that was off topic.
I can't help but wonder which UK banks will support Samsung Pay when it eventually launches.
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there is no bypass
Not yet
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