S7 Edge and Samsung KNOX - a word of warning! - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion

Having just spent the morning setting up my new S7 Edge, I got towards the end of the process (i.e. several hours in), and found out that my App Drawer was failing to show all my apps, and other times none at all. This being with Google Now Launcher.
It turns out that this is a known issue both Samsung and Google are aware of, the fault allegedly being Google's, but in any event, one to be aware of. Because if like me, you had set up Knox, even if you don't really need it, then when you Uninstall it, then reboot, you get stuck on a loading screen with the animated word Samsung flashing, for an absolute age - mine's been around twenty five minutes already, and is still sitting there...
So if you don't need Knox, and you use Google Now, then DO NOT install Samsung Knox - your App Drawer will not work, and uninstalling it will cause a huge delay in you getting up and running.
I'm wondering if I should try a forced restart again, or just leave it chugging, for fear of causing corruption.
Grrrrrr!

Shadamehr said:
Having just spent the morning setting up my new S7 Edge, I got towards the end of the process (i.e. several hours in), and found out that my App Drawer was failing to show all my apps, and other times none at all. This being with Google Now Launcher.
It turns out that this is a known issue both Samsung and Google are aware of, the fault allegedly being Google's, but in any event, one to be aware of. Because if like me, you had set up Knox, even if you don't really need it, then when you Uninstall it, then reboot, you get stuck on a loading screen with the animated word Samsung flashing, for an absolute age - mine's been around twenty five minutes already, and is still sitting there...
So if you don't need Knox, and you use Google Now, then DO NOT install Samsung Knox - your App Drawer will not work, and uninstalling it will cause a huge delay in you getting up and running.
I'm wondering if I should try a forced restart again, or just leave it chugging, for fear of causing corruption.
Grrrrrr!
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Not sure how that affects the draw in Google now. That's strange.
To be honest, until there is root and a way to remove knox altogether, I will be using my s5 and using the S7 to play with the vr headset.
Mostly, I can't live without viper4android.
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riso123 said:
Not sure how that affects the draw in Google now. That's strange.
To be honest, until there is root and a way to remove knox altogether, I will be using my s5 and using the S7 to play with the vr headset.
Mostly, I can't live without viper4android.
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Exactly. Viper4android with my expensive Bluetooth headphones makes such a huge difference. Now that we have 128gb SD card and massive mp3 library, viper4android is such a must for us commuters.
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Brava27 said:
Exactly. Viper4android with my expensive Bluetooth headphones makes such a huge difference. Now that we have 128gb SD card and massive mp3 library, viper4android is such a must for us commuters.
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I'm surprised it makes that much of a difference with expensive Bluetooth headphones. The good ones usually have a really good DAC on board.
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_Dennis_ said:
I'm surprised it makes that much of a difference with expensive Bluetooth headphones. The good ones usually have a really good DAC on board.
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Me too, for some reason stock touchwiz has no treble and no bass. Difference is amaaaaaaazing.
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Brava27 said:
Me too, for some reason stock touchwiz has no treble and no bass. Difference is amaaaaaaazing.
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When you use a Bluetooth connection the phone DAC has no role at all and all the processing is made by the DAC inside the Bluetooth headset.

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When you use a Bluetooth connection the phone DAC has no role at all and all the processing is made by the DAC inside the Bluetooth headset.
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Interesting. Had no idea how that worked.
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So how does this work? I'm not sure what knox is other than tripping it makes it so you can't use samsung pay. And I'd like to use the Google Now Launcher. So I can't have GNL and use samsung pay or it has issues booting, loses the app drawer or what?

I uninstalled Knox no problem. No long restart.

I don't even have Knox on my phone. There is an app on the Samsung market for it, but its not installed on my phone. Maybe I'm just missing something, but I can't find a Knox app.

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I don't even have Knox on my phone. There is an app on the Samsung market for it, but its not installed on my phone. Maybe I'm just missing something, but I can't find a Knox app.
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I was given the option to install it at the end of the initial set up. I installed and set up Knox then later uninstalled it with no problems like OP had.

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S6 Lag is Driving Me NUTS (Video Demo Included)

For the past three weeks or so I was torn between the M9 and the S6 (G4 is too big for my tastes), but in the end I upgraded to the S6 on T-Mobile this past Saturday from my trusty M8, thinking that the reported RAM and lag issues were minor.
After installing everything I previously had on my M8, I've already started to experience the horrible performance issues others have experienced.
Reading these forums, it seems like many people don't believe the lag issue exists (because theirs doesn't lag), but I'm sure it's dependent on your own smartphone usage. I usually have BT on, connected to BT earphones, my Fitbit Flex, and occasionally a Moto 360. Google Play Music is almost always playing music.
A common use case for myself is this: when I go for a run, I put on my BT earphones, play my favourite playlist, and track my run in my Fitbit app. My M8 handled this scenario well, albeit with some minor stuttering, but overall it was highly usable.
Fast forward to my brand new S6. The same scenario CRIPPLES it.
Here's a video demonstration of what happens.
This is only one common use case among several, in which I've experienced terrible lag or force closures. How Samsung can get away with this is infuriating. It's also mind boggling how not a single media outlet experienced/reported this issue in their reviews.
At this point, I'm deeply considering exchanging this with the M9. Luckily, I'm still within my return window with T-Mobile. I'm incredibly disappointed, since otherwise this would have been a fantastic device.
By the way, I'm running stock T-Mobile, which is on 5.1.1.
Try clearing cache with cache cleaner app. Or flash 5.1.1 via odin.
Try installing the newest android system webview.
It's newer than the play store, once I installed, all my lag problems disappeared.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...-44-0-2403-73-arm-arm64-android-apk-download/
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After installing everything I previously had on my M8, I've already started to experience the horrible performance issues others have experienced.
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And then you are complaining there is lag?
Perhaps you could remove all of the stuff you loaded, then start from the beginning testing as you go to see what it is you loaded that caused the lag.
Just because you used it on the M8, doesn't mean it will function the same on the S6.
Making a bunch of changes and then discovering you are having issues makes it pretty hard to figure out what caused the issues.
Wow! If you had not posted the video, I wouldn't have believed it. Crazy lag.
Can anyone else replicate this lag dng the same as on video?I wonder if it's just your phone that's behaving this way....
Never had lag like this even when streaming music through Bluetooth and playing GBA emulators at the same time. And I'm still on 5.0.2. I suggest a factory reset. And then as you install apps, one at a time, see if certain ones are bogging down the device.
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i feel like google apps are making the device slower....the chrome, google play music......coincidence??
krelvinaz said:
And then you are complaining there is lag?
Perhaps you could remove all of the stuff you loaded, then start from the beginning testing as you go to see what it is you loaded that caused the lag.
Just because you used it on the M8, doesn't mean it will function the same on the S6.
Making a bunch of changes and then discovering you are having issues makes it pretty hard to figure out what caused the issues.
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Funny, that is exactly what I expect. In fact, I expected it to perform even better because of the spec bump.
I don't actually have that many apps, and the apps that I do have are not many. I will try a factory reset later, but having to test this out one app at a time is incredibly time consuming and should not be necessary. I've never had such a problem with any of my previous devices. My Note 3 is actually running really well still.
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f1ux said:
Try installing the newest android system webview.
It's newer than the play store, once I installed, all my lag problems disappeared.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...-44-0-2403-73-arm-arm64-android-apk-download/
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Thanks it's like chrome and Flipboard just came out of hibernation since I tried this [emoji106]
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He has MANY apps running and not clearing them will lag up the phone, ignore the troll guys.
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He has MANY apps running and not clearing them will lag up the phone, ignore the troll guys.
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That's actually offensive. I didn't spend over $800 on this phone so I can complain about it being laggy. I spent this amount because it was supposed to be the most powerful, and hence should not have this problem.
Constantly ending apps every time you want to use your phone for something is ridiculous. The phone should be able to manage this properly, like many other phones can. I can deal with slight lag or stuttering, but to be rendered completely unresponsive is unacceptable.
By the way, I just removed all apps and reran the same scenario, with the same result.
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Honestly I never experienced this lag and im sure neither have 60% of the members here. Take it back to where you bought it and ask for a new one... you might of got a defective batch.
God damn this is hilarious... It has absolutely nothing to do with the phone but how many freaking apps you have open and running in the background, your battery life probably sucks balls too. Try Greenify from the play store and go look at the DHA Tweaks in the original development forum.
edit: if that doesn't work, your phones defective.
Obviously there's something wrong with your phone. No one's using their phone with this kind of lag, and just shrugs it off.
Get it replaced... Why make a thread just crying about it.
@djbutter okay I tested for myself using the fitbit app to track my run and streaming music from Google play music and there IS LAG. The fitbit app seems to use an ungodly amount of RAM on this phone when the fitbit tracking is going on and it will slow the phone to a crawl with the more apps you use/open. I've experienced no lag otherwise.
Sorry if my previous post came off as harsh. IMO this needs to be fixed by fitbit as the app uses too many resources on the S6.
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¿Will-it-Blend? said:
@djbutter okay I tested for myself using the fitbit app to track my run and streaming music from Google play music and there IS LAG. The fitbit app seems to use an ungodly amount of RAM on this phone when the fitbit tracking is going on and it will slow the phone to a crawl with the more apps you use/10. I've experienced no lag otherwise.
Sorry if my post came off as harsh. IMO this needs to be fixed by fitbit as the app uses too many resources on the S6.
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This is actually great news, because it implies that it's app-specific, and I don't have a defective unit which others have suggested (not-so-politely). Thanks for testing it out.
I also feel like Google Play Music, Hangouts, and/or Bluetooth are messing with my phone's performance.
It's not that my phone is consistently lagging, it just seems to take a huge performance hit when I'm suddenly doing multiple things at once.
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djbutter said:
This is actually great news, because it implies that it's app-specific, and I don't have a defective unit which others have suggested (not-so-politely). Thanks for testing it out.
I also feel like Google Play Music, Hangouts, and/or Bluetooth are messing with my phone's performance.
It's not that my phone is consistently lagging, it just seems to take a huge performance hit when I'm suddenly doing multiple things at once.
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Google play music hasn't been so bad for me, but I've disabled a lot of other Google apps because they can be resource hungry. Chrome is particularly bad.
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Japultra said:
Wow! If you had not posted the video, I wouldn't have believed it. Crazy lag.
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Me neither, I have never experienced this with my S6, it is smooth as butter
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djbutter said:
This is actually great news, because it implies that it's app-specific, and I don't have a defective unit which others have suggested (not-so-politely). Thanks for testing it out.
I also feel like Google Play Music, Hangouts, and/or Bluetooth are messing with my phone's performance.
It's not that my phone is consistently lagging, it just seems to take a huge performance hit when I'm suddenly doing multiple things at once.
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There are several threads about this already. Samsung really dropped the ball making the jump to arm64. Apps that shouldn't use much memory are, and Google apps are the biggest issue. I have had issues with Swiftkey since I got the S6, so much so that I've stopped using it. I get the impression you're not into rooting really, forgive me if I'm wrong, but there are bandaid solutions for some of these issues floating around. I've personally been messing with the memory management on this phone for months and while we haven't found a real fix, depending on your useage some of the things can help. Recently I realized the reason the phone comes to a screeching halt like you're showing is because the swap is full. Once the swap gets full it hammers performance. I've been making swap bigger which really seems to help in conjunction with other various tweaks. Like I said, no fix but definitely helps.

Samsung Pay after Root

Hello everyone,
I've been hopping around, trying to do some research on this but decided to make a post to confirm and also in hopes of informing others.
Is it true that once rooting the Note 5, we permanently lose Samsung Pay abilities due to tripping the KNOX meter?
Thanks!
Yes, the way Samsung designed Samsung pay is to make it as secure as possible, and unfortunately that includes blocking access on modded devices. Is there a way around this? I belive it would have to involve tricking Knox and I don't think it will be easy.
With that said, the galaxy s6 had a root that didn't trip knox. Even still, had to be extremely careful after that with flashing roms and such but it was b possible.
It's really the only thing that's going to make me think twice about rooting.
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Indeed. I know there are alternatives like PayPal but what about Android Pay? Will we still be able to use that as an alternative, after root?
I dug around the Korean Samsung pay apk that's floating around and I found where it's doing that check, it's just a matter of disabling it and seeing it it works. Also, the string says something to the effect of "this application won't work on rooted devices for security, please unroot your device to use Samsung pay". Notice it says unroot. We'll see what the reality is when we get our hands on the final US apk.
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This is my only concern at this point. While I don't know for sure how much if at all I'll be using Samsung Pay, I don't want to root and trip Knox quite yet so I can at least try it when it's released.
You guys are exactly in my situation. I want root but i think samsung pay might be a nice feature.. speacially sonce it works anywhere eith a card reader, not just tap and go.. only if they swipe only. Some how samsung pay still works... thats awesome
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egren58 said:
You guys are exactly in my situation. I want root but i think samsung pay might be a nice feature.. speacially sonce it works anywhere eith a card reader, not just tap and go.. only if they swipe only. Some how samsung pay still works... thats awesome
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It has a magnet that emukayes your cards magnetic strip
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It has a magnet that emukayes your cards magnetic strip
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All i know is thats awsome
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What about if we used root cloak and or Xprivacy on xposed to hide detection of root or somthing? Maybe somone needs to create an app like root cloak that his the detection of it checking if you tripped Knox? Also why is everyone so worried about Samsung Pay Google Wallet allows you to use the app on rooted debices and it does the NFC paying and they send you a physical debit card. You can even send money to people through the app too.
Does Samsung Pay have some extra cool feature that Google Wallet Doesn't? I'm just asking cause I haven't looked into Samsung Pay. In my opinion if a pay system app can't be used on r root I'm not sure if I trust the app because they might think it will be hacked but they need to make it secure on all aspects.
I've been accepted into Samsung Pay beta testing and unfortunately since I've tripped knox this is what happens. I have the apk files for both the app and framework.
Deathbyillusion said:
What about if we used root cloak and or Xprivacy on xposed to hide detection of root or somthing? Maybe somone needs to create an app like root cloak that his the detection of it checking if you tripped Knox? Also why is everyone so worried about Samsung Pay Google Wallet allows you to use the app on rooted debices and it does the NFC paying and they send you a physical debit card. You can even send money to people through the app too.
Does Samsung Pay have some extra cool feature that Google Wallet Doesn't? I'm just asking cause I haven't looked into Samsung Pay. In my opinion if a pay system app can't be used on r root I'm not sure if I trust the app because they might think it will be hacked but they need to make it secure on all aspects.
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I agree 1,000%. Google Wallet is accepted at a lot of places and works well while rooted. If I have to part with Samsung Pay to 1) Turn the camera shutter sound off on my phone via Root Explorer...2) Disable a bunch of Samsung bloat I don't use...3) Have the ability to back up my apps and data as well as restore them...4)Customize my phone using XPosed and Wanam on a deodexed stock rom...etc, then it's not even a close trade off. I'm going with root 3 times out of 4.
Deathbyillusion said:
Does Samsung Pay have some extra cool feature that Google Wallet Doesn't? I'm just asking cause I haven't looked into Samsung Pay. In my opinion if a pay system app can't be used on r root I'm not sure if I trust the app because they might think it will be hacked but they need to make it secure on all aspects.
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Yes, Samsung Pay uses MST (magnetic secure transmission), aka the tech they acquired from LoopPay. This allows you to use your phone to pay at terminals, even if they don't have NFC. It'll emulate the magnetic field created when you physically swipe your card. So, basically it'll work in most places that Google Wallet (or Apple Pay) won't.
Sure, you can just use the Google Wallet card, but if you have it connected to multiple accounts, it's not always easy to remember which one is set as default or to change on the fly the one you want to use. At least with Samsung Pay & the Wallet app, I can choose my card on the fly.
I'm in the beta and raring to go. Sadly my BoA debit card was compromised earlier in the week and so I have to wait for the new one to arrive before I can test.
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I've been accepted into Samsung Pay beta testing and unfortunately since I've tripped knox this is what happens. I have the apk files for both the app and framework.
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Did you try odin back to stock and activating Samsung Pay? If not, can you try it out and let us know the results?
I got into Samsung Pay today but too sick to go try it out somewhere.
RMXO said:
Did you try odin back to stock and activating Samsung Pay? If not, can you try it out and let us know the results?
I got into Samsung Pay today but too sick to go try it out somewhere.
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Any update? Did you ever try it?
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LaRosa217 said:
Yes, Samsung Pay uses MST (magnetic secure transmission), aka the tech they acquired from LoopPay. This allows you to use your phone to pay at terminals, even if they don't have NFC. It'll emulate the magnetic field created when you physically swipe your card. So, basically it'll work in most places that Google Wallet (or Apple Pay) won't.
Sure, you can just use the Google Wallet card, but if you have it connected to multiple accounts, it's not always easy to remember which one is set as default or to change on the fly the one you want to use. At least with Samsung Pay & the Wallet app, I can choose my card on the fly.
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So I too have been accepted to the beta for Samsung pay. The only issue is I don't have any qualifying debit or credit cards to add because they don't have that many the day except at this time which is kind of dumb. But you spoke of LoopPay and I had also read that Samsung had acquired that or something like that so I checked in Google Play and sure enough LoopPay is still there so I thought hey if they have this cool feature where you can just use existing card readers and phone acts as a magnetic strip and seeing how the new Samsung phones have a feature built in and that it's possible that it works if you're rooted or if it doesn't it probably just checks for root and in theory you could just use root cloak to hide your route for the app so I thought why not download LoopPay.
So I downloaded Lupe installed it I'm verified my information but then when I go to add cards it says you currently don't have a connecting device to add a card because with LoopPay it requires you to buy a fob that plugs in to where the 3.5 mm or you can also use a card reader in the 3.5 mm which costs around 40 or 50 bucks. If the LoopPay hardware is built into our devices why does it ask me to have these add ons hooked into the 3.5 mm? Why would they do this? that seems pretty stupid if you ask me.
Maybe they can update LoopPay to not have to have the additional hardware that you need to buy. As far as what I've been saying about the app there's no information in Google Play saying that they are emerging over the Samsung pay for that the apps closing but I could be or they just haven't released anything yet. But it would be kind of a stupid move to murder / to Samsung pay for everyone because not everybody has a Samsung device and won't be able to use samsung pay so maybe that's why is not changing or merging.
travisw0204 said:
I agree 1,000%. Google Wallet is accepted at a lot of places and works well while rooted. If I have to part with Samsung Pay to 1) Turn the camera shutter sound off on my phone via Root Explorer...2) Disable a bunch of Samsung bloat I don't use...3) Have the ability to back up my apps and data as well as restore them...4)Customize my phone using XPosed and Wanam on a deodexed stock rom...etc, then it's not even a close trade off. I'm going with root 3 times out of 4.
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Just wanted to give you a heads up that you can disable the camera shutter sound even if your bone stock or rooted just by going into the camera settings scrolling to the bottom and tapping the disable shutter sound button. Atleast Its def been in my camera app since the day I purchased my phone. Any who just wanted to point that out. Thanks
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Just wanted to give you a heads up that you can disable the camera shutter sound even if your bone stock or rooted just by going into the camera settings scrolling to the bottom and tapping the disable shutter sound button. Atleast Its def been in my camera app since the day I purchased my phone. Any who just wanted to point that out. Thanks
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I definitely don't have it. Its all good though. I have the Sprint variant of the phone.
travisw0204 said:
I definitely don't have it. Its all good though. I have the Sprint variant of the phone.
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Oh that makes sense, bring your Sprint device into a T-Mobile thread and complain
On a serious note, it seems like Sprint takes out quite a few features, kinda sucks. A simple feature for muting the shutter sound? Why remove?
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Oh that makes sense, bring your Sprint device into a T-Mobile thread and complain [emoji14]
On a serious note, it seems like Sprint takes out quite a few features, kinda sucks. A simple feature for muting the shutter sound? Why remove?
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Actually I was just speaking in general as far as people justifying why they root. Its pretty universal as far as what you can and can't do. ?
I actually haven't owned a Samsung device where you could turn the shutter sound off for Sprint. The last one I could was the HTC EVO LTE. Its an easy fix once rooted though. My Gear 2 had no shutter sound option either. I had to root it in order to turn it off. Its something about privacy or something like that. I can easily turn the volume on my Ringer to silent and it will remedy that problem.

Battery Saving Techniques?

Curious as to what setting setup people are using to save battery
Package dosabler, this little app has done wonders with my battery life on this phone.
bebeloneovvl said:
Package dosabler, this little app has done wonders with my battery life on this phone.
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May I ask what apps you disable to make the battery life better??
Follow this thread, read, it's worth it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3184563
Guide: De-Bloating and De-Touchwizzing the Note 5
You don't even have to do it one by one manually. Just download the .xml file, import it to the app and listo! But read, read read!
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Follow this thread, read, it's worth it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3184563
Guide: De-Bloating and De-Touchwizzing the Note 5
You don't even have to do it one by one manually. Just download the .xml file, import it to the app and listo! But read, read read!
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Thanks
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Facebook/Messenger app are battery huggers for real! I use it through Chrome and added shortcut to home screen and works like a charm.
I'm not really sure what is going on with my battery ; I have been using the debloater script but still have just over 10hrs battery.
So I've never used Package Disabler before so I downloaded it. When it verifies the license, I get a popup about Knox. I am not a noob to rooting, but I've always used TitaniumBackup to do the job for freezing or uninstalling bloat. When the Knox agreement popped up, I did get a little worried cause I don't want to trip Knox or anything just yet. If I decline the agreement, it bring me back to Package Disabler and says I have to accept the agreement.
Is this so??????????
leo9891 said:
So I've never used Package Disabler before so I downloaded it. When it verifies the license, I get a popup about Knox. I am not a noob to rooting, but I've always used TitaniumBackup to do the job for freezing or uninstalling bloat. When the Knox agreement popped up, I did get a little worried cause I don't want to trip Knox or anything just yet. If I decline the agreement, it bring me back to Package Disabler and says I have to accept the agreement.
Is this so??????????
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Samsung and the carriers are watching! But yeah you have to agree to that to use the app. It allows the app to be installed as a system app and perform the disabling functions.
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Samsung and the carriers are watching! But yeah you have to agree to that to use the app. It allows the app to be installed as a system app and perform the disabling functions.
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Ok thanks. My last Samsung device was an S4 so yeah.... That didn't have Knox until it was introduced in OTA Updates later on. By then I already rooted and did whatever I wanted cause the phone was free, and I didn't care if I tripped Knox. But I'm paying for this phone so I'm being a little more cautious.
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Ok thanks. My last Samsung device was an S4 so yeah.... That didn't have Knox until it was introduced in OTA Updates later on. By then I already rooted and did whatever I wanted cause the phone was free, and I didn't care if I tripped Knox. But I'm paying for this phone so I'm being a little more cautious.
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I haven't noticed any I'll effects so pretty sure the app isn't tripping knox. Still get ota updates (as long as you enable all and reboot) and still can use Samsung pay.
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Here's my tricks for today's performance as seen in screenshots below... my device is rooted, but you can do all these things without root...
1) Use powersaving mode, you don't really notice much performance hit for the things I do on my phone
2) Use Disable Application app from play store to disable well over 100 background apps ( use package disabler pro if not rooted, it's a better interface)
3) Use Smart Manager app to manage ram and limit background apps running
4) Greenify all apps other than launcher and my music apps that I'm streaming music with
5) Manage screen brightness and not keep it overly bright when not needed
As you can see, I managed to get over 7 hours of Screen On Time, 3 hours of streaming music... i also did plenty of emails, web surfing, xda forums, texting, phone calls... it's not like the phone barely got used... I used it a ton!

Huawei's decision to use its own memory manager....

Ok, so this was a huge problem on the Mediapad X1. Where huawei's memory manager kills apps in the background. Why do we need task killers today Huawei? Please stop
On the Mediapad X1 there were a bunch of apps like Google Hangouts that would get killed even though you tell it not to get killed via "Protected Apps", having your texting app not run in the background is bad as you can imagine. So now I have an X2 and it seems like this Protected App thing actually works better, however I noticed today that the bluetooth services were getting killed in the background as it would not pair with my car until I turned on the screen. Because these are built in services you can't "Protect" them.
Just posting this here so hopefully Huawei can see it and fix it
But seriously, they should just use the memory manager built into android and not try to monkey around with, we don't need task killers any more.
omniphil said:
Ok, so this was a huge problem on the Mediapad X1. Where huawei's memory manager kills apps in the background. Why do we need task killers today Huawei? Please stop
On the Mediapad X1 there were a bunch of apps like Google Hangouts that would get killed even though you tell it not to get killed via "Protected Apps", having your texting app not run in the background is bad as you can imagine. So now I have an X2 and it seems like this Protected App thing actually works better, however I noticed today that the bluetooth services were getting killed in the background as it would not pair with my car until I turned on the screen. Because these are built in services you can't "Protect" them.
Just posting this here so hopefully Huawei can see it and fix it
But seriously, they should just use the memory manager built into android and not try to monkey around with, we don't need task killers any more.
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So your texting app is working fine without any android-genius tweaks required? What app are you using? I NEED that!
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VillaRegina said:
So your texting app is working fine without any android-genius tweaks required? What app are you using? I NEED that!
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I am on an X2 now and yes, it appears to be working so far (Using SimplyText), I've only had the phone for 2 days however so I am still testing, but this was the main reason I almost didn't buy and X2 because of apps shutting down all the time on my X1 in the background.
What tweaks are normally required?
omniphil said:
I am on an X2 now and yes, it appears to be working so far (Using SimplyText), I've only had the phone for 2 days however so I am still testing, but this was the main reason I almost didn't buy and X2 because of apps shutting down all the time on my X1 in the background.
What tweaks are normally required?
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I have had Textra recommended to me as a work-around for MMS texting glitches. I am used to that now and will try it but if I have problems I will try your app. By tweaks I just meant that so much of what most of you do is not what a "regular" cell phone user would know. I had no idea there were memory manager things I might need to address. (I haven't done that before). That is why I am here. To learn about new things and to be prepared as much as possible for when (at this point it is "if") my 702L gets here!
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VillaRegina said:
I have had Textra recommended to me as a work-around for MMS texting glitches. I am used to that now and will try it but if I have problems I will try your app. By tweaks I just meant that so much of what most of you do is not what a "regular" cell phone user would know. I had no idea there were memory manager things I might need to address. (I haven't done that before). That is why I am here. To learn about new things and to be prepared as much as possible for when (at this point it is "if") my 702L gets here!
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You have to go into startup manager and check each app, protected apps and trust each application, add it to startup, and in permission manager you have to trust each application. I agree though, I wish this didn't exist as there's no need for it. If you're rooted you can take it out but you'll lose the Do Not Disturb mode as it is baked into it.
ajsmsg78 said:
You have to go into startup manager and check each app, protected apps and trust each application, add it to startup, and in permission manager you have to trust each application. I agree though, I wish this didn't exist as there's no need for it. If you're rooted you can take it out but you'll lose the Do Not Disturb mode as it is baked into it.
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I was rooted on the X1 and getting rid of the Power Manager still made stuff die in the background, it was pretty irritating. So far with the X2 it mostly works. As far as I can tell only bluetooth dies (Which I can't add to any of those apps as its a system app)
The X2 is such a better phone than the X1. I hope Huawei keeps on top of bug fixes. With a generic android memory manager this phone would be truly awesome.
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You have to go into startup manager and check each app, protected apps and trust each application, add it to startup, and in permission manager you have to trust each application. I agree though, I wish this didn't exist as there's no need for it. If you're rooted you can take it out but you'll lose the Do Not Disturb mode as it is baked into it.
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Thanks for the help, aj... just something else I have learned. I learn something new every day! Now if the shipper would only prove it has actually been shipped! Lol!
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VillaRegina said:
Thanks for the help, aj... just something else I have learned. I learn something new every day! Now if the shipper would only prove it has actually been shipped! Lol!
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I got my X2 today from fashioncoconuts on eBay and everything is good. It even came unlocked. I'm liking these eBay sellers.
Edit: after I did a factory reset it said the bootloader was locked. Now when I use Google Maps it tells me I must update my Google Play Services. When I do my Google Account Disappears and my Play Store doesn't open. I'm beginning to dislike Huawei's implementation of their apps. Blocking certain apps from being installed is totally lame on Huawei's part. Now the waiting game begins for my unlock code. I'm giving them three days. If not both phones are going on eBay and I'm done with Huawei. Rant over.
ajsmsg78 said:
I got my X2 today from fashioncoconuts on eBay and everything is good. It even came unlocked. I'm liking these eBay sellers.
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Good Ole fashioncoconuts. They raised the price big time by the time I was trying to jump in and also told me when they answered my message that they were temporarily out of stock. You got a GREAT deal on that one! Worth the wait!
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VillaRegina said:
Good Ole fashioncoconuts. They raised the price big time by the time I was trying to jump in and also told me when they answered my message that they were temporarily out of stock. You got a GREAT deal on that one! Worth the wait!
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Yeah. They told me they shipped it out on the 5th and didn't until the 15th. Now I know why. They raised the price too right after I bought it. A lot of these eBay sellers jack the price up way too high. No one should pay more than $399 for it. I'm just glad it came already unlocked. It seems Huawei is no longer sending emails to people with the unlock codes anymore.
I use bluetooth in car, and it connects automatically without turing screen on. There must be some other issue.
bark1234 said:
I use bluetooth in car, and it connects automatically without turing screen on. There must be some other issue.
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Which build are you running?
omniphil said:
Which build are you running?
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It worked in B106 and is working on B108sp01
bark1234 said:
It worked in B106 and is working on B108sp01
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Ok, this morning bluetooth connect up fine (I'm on B108)
But I noticed the Lux (screen brightness app) had stopped in the background.
Services shutting down in the background was a huge issue on the X1 and for the most part seems to work on the X2 but it seems some things still get killed in the background once in a while even though they are "Protected Apps"
I'll keep monitoring and see if I notice anything else...

N915A reboot daily after recent update

My Note Edge N915A reboots daily after updated to N915AUCS2DPH7. Anyone else having the same problem?
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Same problem here and it seems to be getting more frequent. I just got my phone this weekend and updated to Marshmallow right away. I did a factory reset after the update, hoping that would eliminate issues like this. I do have the Samsung flip wallet case installed and I have encrypted the phone (a requirement for my work email). Any chance you have either of these things in common?
HDRules said:
Same problem here and it seems to be getting more frequent. I just got my phone this weekend and updated to Marshmallow right away. I did a factory reset after the update, hoping that would eliminate issues like this. I do have the Samsung flip wallet case installed and I have encrypted the phone (a requirement for my work email). Any chance you have either of these things in common?
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No. My phone is neither scripted or has a wallet cover. Apparently, it is related to the latest update!
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Mine too. I was disappointed because my girl has the S7 Edge and he icons were different. My icons didn't change which was the only reason I did the update.
It seems there's no particular app that triggers it. It just reboots randomly! We'll see when they start exploding. Samsung sucks.
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Batman2011 said:
It seems there's no particular app that triggers it. It just reboots randomly! We'll see when they start exploding. Samsung sucks.
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Joke getting old, are you using sd card?
Aimara said:
Joke getting old, are you using sd card?
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Yes I am using an SD card with it.
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Remove it and see if it helps, since you updated the firmware, most probably that's the cause, flash back previous firmware? Other known issue is faulty battery and fingerprint lock
I got today 09:16 a random reboot and looked as fast as possible after reboot a log. See attachment and look at 09:16
I think Smart Manager causes the problem. Maybe this is the problem related to battery issue because smart manager also logging battery statistics. I removed knox, smart manager and any other bloatware. After 9hours usage i did not get any reboots for now. Let see if it work continuesly without reboot.

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