Hi everyone,
I've just purchased a brand new Moto Maxx XT1250 and right after I received it, I read online that motorola isn´t going to upgrade it from 4.4.4, Is that true??
The other question i have is that when i'm conected to wifi, the mobile network just goes crazy and starts switching between all modes (E, 3G, LTE, no signal, etc) randomly, i've never seen that in any other phone, and I found it strange because it doesn't happens when I´m not conected to wifi, or at least it doesn't seems to.. I'm afraid that that may probably being sucking extra battery or not, but it's just strange. Any clue?
So for the record, i live in Argentina (South America) and my operator works under the next network bands:
2G: 850 / 1900
3G: 850 / 1900
4G: Band 4 (1700, 2100) / Band 28 (700)
The XT1250 supports the following bands:
2G: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 + CDMA 800 / 1900
3G: UMTS/HSDPA+ 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G: LTE (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13)
So all this said.. What do you think??
Thank you and sorry for the long post.
On any Quark (XT1254, XT1250, XT1225), you can use CM 12.1 (Lollipop), CM13 (Marshmallow), Resurrection Remix (Lollipop and Marshmallow), Mokee AOSP (Lollipop), and Xperia (Lollipop) ROMs.
Plus @baybutcher27 custom kernel, one for Lolllipop and one for Marshmallow.
The XT1250 = XT1254, but with unlock-able bootloader from Motorola. Same FCC ID as the XT1254. The XT1250 was basically the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo.
How did you get an XT1250 in Argentina? I would have thought you would go for the Latin America XT1225?
Yes, the XT1225 and XT1254/XT1250 all share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7.
The XT1225 additionally has LTE band 5 and 17 (more bands used by AT&T here in the U.S.).
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The XT1254/XT1250 instead has LTE band 13 (Verizon LTE band), plus CDMA bands. While it does have some HSPA bands, there's not as many as in the XT1225.
Hi! Thanks for replying!
That's good news because I don't won't to get stuck on 4.4.4!
I bought it in the us! Far cheaper than getting it here! I got a promotional discount and acquired it for $300
I'm on CM12.1 right now, the snapshot version.. Do you recommend any particular ROM beside this?
pancho2288 said:
Hi! Thanks for replying!
That's good news because I don't won't to get stuck on 4.4.4!
I bought it in the us! Far cheaper than getting it here! I got a promotional discount and acquired it for $300
I'm on CM12.1 right now, the snapshot version.. Do you recommend any particular ROM beside this?
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Very good!
I'm on the latest CM12.1 nightly (March 02, 2016), myself. A few more improvements over the last snapshot, which is a couple of months old by now.
Also the Lollipop 5.1.1 Resurrection Remix (dev @baybutcher27) is very popular as it has more tweaks than just CM, even though it's based on CM12.1.
But I stuck with CM -- even though I use @baybutcher27's Lollipop kernel with my CM12.1.
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The Marshmallow CM13 and Marshmallow Resurrection Remix ROMs are supposedly fairly stable right now, but I'm still waiting a little while longer to try those. I'm very busy, and CM12.1 (Lollipop 5.1.1) works very well for me.
Great! thanks for the advice!
I guess I'm gonna stick with this for a while and later I'll try that combo of yours!
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I've tried everything! Have the 16gb version, edited apns, deleted certain areas, re added. Checked info screen.
I got lte on my nexus 4 with the exact same settings from koodo. Not sure why the oneplus won't pick it up..
Probably have the Chinese version which lacks the LTE bands for koodo. LTE well only work with Rogers or Fido on the Chinese version.
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The person I bought the phone had lte working with Bell. I'm not sure how to get it working on my carrier
jark99 said:
The person I bought the phone had lte working with Bell. I'm not sure how to get it working on my carrier
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Does the back of your phone have Cyanogen in the back? What is your baseband radio in Settings->Display?
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Does the back of your phone have Cyanogen in the back? What is your baseband radio in Settings->Display?
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Radio is m8974. It doesn't say cyanogen on back at all.
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Radio is m8974. It doesn't say cyanogen on back at all.
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I'm not familiar with the Canadian bands, but you have to look at the Chinese OPO and compare that with the Koodo LTE bands.
It could be possible that your friend has the Chinese version and is able to get LTE on Bell but not on Koodo or he has international which works.
Do the research and see if its compatible to begin with.
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Mobile services provided by Koodo use Telus Mobility's CDMA, HSPA+ and LTE networks. CDMA devices, however, have been discontinued by Koodo outside of Northern Ontario and Manitoba.[9] Koodo Mobile's CDMA and HSPA networks use the 800 MHz and 1900 MHz frequencies while their LTE network uses 1700/2100 MHz (AWS).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koodo_Mobile
Here's a list of LTE bands that North American companies use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
It looks like Bell uses LTE bands 4,7,and 17 while Koodo(which is owned by Telus) only has band 4. If the back of your phone doesn't have Cyanogen written at the bottom then you have the chinese model. I'm sure Telus may eventually roll out more LTE bands but for now you might be out of luck.
Does anyone know if this Mi 4 or any of the other phones work out of box in canada?
If not, is there a way to get it working on LTE ?
THanks,
Only LTE bands it has out of the box are 1,3 and 41. I am on AT&T in US and no LTE. Edited NV values successfully but no additional LTE bands were enabled.
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Only LTE bands it has out of the box are 1,3 and 41. I am on AT&T in US and no LTE. Edited NV values successfully but no additional LTE bands were enabled.
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That is unfortunate to hear, what is the fastest connectivity you're getting?
I'm on the AT&T equivalent in Canada known as Rogers.
About 7MB/S which is terrible. I like MIUI and this device is nice quality. Dare I say it has the feel of an iPhone but is loaded with Android so the best of both worlds (I personally detest the closed source IOS). So I'm suffering with no LTE just to use the MI4 but I've got a ZTE Axon for a backup if I need a LTE compatible device. Always near WIFI so it's not often. I will say, no dropped calls or texts with it and I've had it a couple weeks. Call quality is excellent.
Best you can get is 3G or H+. Also in Canada on Fido
dont buy the chinese LTE edition. i hear that does not even do 3g. the wcdma (w) variant does 3g/H+
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dont buy the chinese LTE edition. i hear that does not even do 3g. the wcdma (w) variant does 3g/H+
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I have the China Union LTE model and it has 3G on AT&T.
I am not doubting you. But there are 2 LTE variants.
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TDD LTE <<< GSM 2G ok but no WCDMA 3G
FDD LTE <<< This is the Western one with WCDMA (3G) support
I noticed GSM arena posted some variant specific specs for the V10. They stated that the H900 didn't have band 17 LTE, I thought this couldn't be possible. I checked AT&T's website, sure enough, no band 17. It has the lesser used band 29 (also 700mhz). Can anyone explain why this is? Where i live only band 17 LTE is available, so I hesitate to get the V10. Since both B17 and B29 are 700mhz, would the V10 be able to connect to band B17?
Here it is, straight from AT&T's website:
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I made a post about this if you want to check it out. The short and sweet of it is that bands 12 and 17 are being merged, and they were always on the same frequency from the start, so having both bands is redundant. In other words, since band 12 is available, band 17 is as well, as confirmed by another user for the T-Mobile variant (but it still applies for the AT&T variant).
And if you're really skeptical, don't forget that you are entitled to a buyer's remorse in which the carrier must refund your purchase.
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I made a post about this if you want to check it out. The short and sweet of it is that bands 12 and 17 are being merged, and they were always on the same frequency from the start, so having both bands is redundant. In other words, since band 12 is available, band 17 is as well, as confirmed by another user for the T-Mobile variant (but it still applies for the AT&T variant).
And if you're really skeptical, don't forget that you are entitled to a buyer's remorse in which the carrier must refund your purchase.
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Thanks for the explanation ubergeek. So this means that even an older phone that only supported B17 will now work on, for example, t-mobiles band 12? Very cool!
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Thanks for the explanation ubergeek. So this means that even an older phone that only supported B17 will now work on, for example, t-mobiles band 12? Very cool!
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An older phone that supports B12 can support B17 but only at the specified frequencies it's set at.
Are all variants the same lte band support?
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One word answer, yes.
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I was under the impression that the XT1250 also included the LTE 17 band that the XT1225 has and have purchased one to use on AT&T. Only getting HSPA+ and wondering if the old methods of editing NV 6828 and 6829 fields for Qualcomm SoC would be a possible alternative...
I have unlocked the bootloader through the Motorola website. I doubt it would be as simple as flashing the XT1225 radio onto it -- mine ends in .85.R01
THANKS in advance!
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I was under the impression that the XT1250 also included the LTE 17 band that the XT1225 has and have purchased one to use on AT&T. Only getting HSPA+ and wondering if the old methods of editing NV 6828 and 6829 fields for Qualcomm SoC would be a possible alternative...
I have unlocked the bootloader through the Motorola website. I doubt it would be as simple as flashing the XT1225 radio onto it -- mine ends in .85.R01
THANKS in advance!
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No. The XT1250 (U.S. Moto Maxx) = XT1254 (Droid Turbo). Same FCC ID, same bands, same exact device. Since the XT1254 does not have LTE band 17, neither does the XT1250. The XT1250 is basically the dev version of the XT1254, with unlockable bootloader via Motorola website like the other Quarks.
While all the Quarks share the same hardware, including antenna, the radios are different. The XT1225 has a different FCC ID because it does have different radio.
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The XT1250/XT1254 has CDMA bands which the XT1225 does not have or need. The XT1225 has more HSPA bands, different mix of LTE bands and more LTE bands. All Quarks share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7. But the XT1250/XT1254 has LTE band 13, while the XT1225 has LTE bands 5 & 17, plus more HSPA bands.
Going by the specs I've seen on a number of tech sites, I've always thought that the LTE bands on most T-Mobile phones were limited to those that T-Mobile and AT&T use (4 and 12). However, when I ran "search for operators" I could see Verizon (and ATT + TMo) towers. Then I found this page at T-Mobile's own website that shows this:
InternationalQuad Band GSM; LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
The UMTS bands obviously are TMo's, but LTE covers way more than they have deployed. So it would seem the N920T really has these bands? Perhaps it's because the chipset is Exynos.
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Going by the specs I've seen on a number of tech sites, I've always thought that the LTE bands on most T-Mobile phones were limited to those that T-Mobile and AT&T use (4 and 12). However, when I ran "search for operators" I could see Verizon (and ATT + TMo) towers. Then I found this page at T-Mobile's own website that shows this:
InternationalQuad Band GSM; LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 20; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
The UMTS bands obviously are TMo's, but LTE covers way more than they have deployed. So it would seem the N920T really has these bands? Perhaps it's because the chipset is Exynos.
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You can see and change the band's from the dialer using *#2263#
I don't recommend changing them but you can look at the list.
I did change the default bands to LTE/WCDMA/GSM on mine for use on AT&T
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You can see and change the band's from the dialer using *#2263#
I don't recommend changing them but you can look at the list.
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That's interesting. When I execute that USSD, it shows way more bands than I quoted from TMo's spec list:
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And this continues into the 40s, I just can't remember how to screencap the entire page. I am curious if they are all actual bands you can use, or (I would assume at this point) every possible LTE band there is. But it's a feature code I haven't seen before, so +thanks.
Well, after further digging in the *#2263# screens, this definitely looks like an international kind of phone.
If the settings are to be believed, there's also support for TD-SCDMA, which is an alternative to W-CDMA (and incompatible with it). That's used in China, which is a long way off from T-Mobile territory.
But that's great -- such an enormous frequency list is exactly what a flagship should offer. And it's probably no coincidence that this is an Exynos chipset, because other phones using Qualcomm seem to have restrictions in place for the US market.