Enabling Missing LTE Band 17 on XT1250 for AT&T - Moto Maxx Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was under the impression that the XT1250 also included the LTE 17 band that the XT1225 has and have purchased one to use on AT&T. Only getting HSPA+ and wondering if the old methods of editing NV 6828 and 6829 fields for Qualcomm SoC would be a possible alternative...
I have unlocked the bootloader through the Motorola website. I doubt it would be as simple as flashing the XT1225 radio onto it -- mine ends in .85.R01
THANKS in advance!

KeepingItCuttingEdge said:
I was under the impression that the XT1250 also included the LTE 17 band that the XT1225 has and have purchased one to use on AT&T. Only getting HSPA+ and wondering if the old methods of editing NV 6828 and 6829 fields for Qualcomm SoC would be a possible alternative...
I have unlocked the bootloader through the Motorola website. I doubt it would be as simple as flashing the XT1225 radio onto it -- mine ends in .85.R01
THANKS in advance!
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No. The XT1250 (U.S. Moto Maxx) = XT1254 (Droid Turbo). Same FCC ID, same bands, same exact device. Since the XT1254 does not have LTE band 17, neither does the XT1250. The XT1250 is basically the dev version of the XT1254, with unlockable bootloader via Motorola website like the other Quarks.
While all the Quarks share the same hardware, including antenna, the radios are different. The XT1225 has a different FCC ID because it does have different radio.
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The XT1250/XT1254 has CDMA bands which the XT1225 does not have or need. The XT1225 has more HSPA bands, different mix of LTE bands and more LTE bands. All Quarks share LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7. But the XT1250/XT1254 has LTE band 13, while the XT1225 has LTE bands 5 & 17, plus more HSPA bands.

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Nexus Prime for AT&T and T-Mobile? [FCC]

Looks like the FCC passed off on a GT-I9250 Nexus Prime / Galaxy Nexus for AT&T. It doesn't sport AT&T LTE, but does have HSPA+. This makes me smillllleee!
http://briefmobile.com/nexus-prime-passes-fcc-with-att-bands
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/08/sam...50-passes-through-fcc-with-t-mobileatt-bands/
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Update: This might support T-Mobile 3G, too. I guess AT&T and T-Mobile were really expecting that merger to slide through. http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/201...e-hits-the-fcc-with-support-for-att-t-mobile/
Update: Looks like there’s no test for the 2100 MHz spectrum for T-Mobile. That means that T-Mobile support is unlikely.
sweet!
it's coming soon....
Drat i was hoping for AT&T/T-Mobile support like the T-Mobile Ruby and Galaxy S 2 and it saves them production costs (apple) from making various models. Hopefully it will support canadian LTE when they come up here
Rogers uses those (non lte) bands also...
The 2100MHz band doesn't get tested in FCC filling since it's the Rx band. My Touch 4G didn't have 2100MHz band test results but I bet it has T-Mobile 3G connectivity
kennethpenn said:
Looks like the FCC passed off on a GT-I9250 Nexus Prime / Galaxy Nexus for AT&T. It doesn't sport AT&T LTE, but does have HSPA+. This makes me smillllleee!
http://briefmobile.com/nexus-prime-passes-fcc-with-att-bands
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/08/sam...50-passes-through-fcc-with-t-mobileatt-bands/
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=150400&fcc_id=%27A3LGTI9250
Update: This might support T-Mobile 3G, too. I guess AT&T and T-Mobile were really expecting that merger to slide through. http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/201...e-hits-the-fcc-with-support-for-att-t-mobile/
Update: Looks like there’s no test for the 2100 MHz spectrum for T-Mobile. That means that T-Mobile support is unlikely.
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Here's a summary:
GSM 850/1900: (AT&T and T-Mobile 2G/EDGE)
WCDMA/HSPA 850/1900 (AT&T 3G/"4G")
AWS/HSPA 1700/2100*: (T-Mobile 3G/"4G")
*AWS 2100 is not tested by FCC so it won't show here. We can assume full AWS support, not upload only, that wouldn't make any sense
That's awesome! Thanks guys. Guess they were expecting the T-Mo AT&T merger to go through.

Oneplus one on Koodo, no LTE

I've tried everything! Have the 16gb version, edited apns, deleted certain areas, re added. Checked info screen.
I got lte on my nexus 4 with the exact same settings from koodo. Not sure why the oneplus won't pick it up..
Probably have the Chinese version which lacks the LTE bands for koodo. LTE well only work with Rogers or Fido on the Chinese version.
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The person I bought the phone had lte working with Bell. I'm not sure how to get it working on my carrier
jark99 said:
The person I bought the phone had lte working with Bell. I'm not sure how to get it working on my carrier
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Does the back of your phone have Cyanogen in the back? What is your baseband radio in Settings->Display?
zephiK said:
Does the back of your phone have Cyanogen in the back? What is your baseband radio in Settings->Display?
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Radio is m8974. It doesn't say cyanogen on back at all.
jark99 said:
Radio is m8974. It doesn't say cyanogen on back at all.
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I'm not familiar with the Canadian bands, but you have to look at the Chinese OPO and compare that with the Koodo LTE bands.
It could be possible that your friend has the Chinese version and is able to get LTE on Bell but not on Koodo or he has international which works.
Do the research and see if its compatible to begin with.
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Mobile services provided by Koodo use Telus Mobility's CDMA, HSPA+ and LTE networks. CDMA devices, however, have been discontinued by Koodo outside of Northern Ontario and Manitoba.[9] Koodo Mobile's CDMA and HSPA networks use the 800 MHz and 1900 MHz frequencies while their LTE network uses 1700/2100 MHz (AWS).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koodo_Mobile
Here's a list of LTE bands that North American companies use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas
It looks like Bell uses LTE bands 4,7,and 17 while Koodo(which is owned by Telus) only has band 4. If the back of your phone doesn't have Cyanogen written at the bottom then you have the chinese model. I'm sure Telus may eventually roll out more LTE bands but for now you might be out of luck.

CDMA band unlocking in Moto maxx xt1225

Hi all
is it possible to unlock cdma band in Moto maxx, devs pls help me how to do , I heard in official reports some people unlocking CDMA bands in Moto maxx xt1225 ,through dfs tools or if any
. pls share it if u people know help should be appreciated .. thanks
aneesh
aneeshmbabu said:
Hi all
is it possible to unlock cdma band in Moto maxx, devs pls help me how to do , I heard in official reports some people unlocking CDMA bands in Moto maxx xt1225 ,through dfs tools or if any
. pls share it if u people know help should be appreciated .. thanks
aneesh
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1) IF you wanted CDMA, you probably could have bought the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250. It's the same device as the Droid Turbo XT1254, with the SAME FCC ID. Has the exact same bands (CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE), same hardware, but bootloader can be unlocked. Phone can be rooted, TWRP installed, custom ROM, etc. Just like the "Internatinal" Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225.
Sold by various regional CDMA/LTE carriers (not MNVOs).
You can stick in a Verizon LTE sim card and will run on Verizon just like a non-Verizon Nexus 6.
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2) Theoretically you can unlock the CDMA bands on the XT1225, but the firmware has to support it. I messed with it, even found this interface in QPST/mzTool, but as I don't need CDMA I didn't go any further.
See all the CDMA bands on the left I can check mark?
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But on other phones (Samsung, etc.) with Qualcomm Snapdragon chips where people have unlocked additional bands, it was usually the same phone (but different model numbers) sold in various parts of the world, and the firmware supported those bands. The manufacturer had locked/unlocked the bands needed for each particular market. By rooting and using tools like QPST, the phone owner could software unlock all the other bands.
However, when people have tried to add Europe LTE bands to the XT1225, although the SOFTWARE showed it was unlocked, in reality they could not receive those additional bands because no XT1225 actually has those bands. It's not in the firmware. You can't add what's not there to begin with...
So, depends on how similar the XT1225/XT1250/XT1254 really are -- firmware wise.
How do I know if the firmware supports the band?

Xiaomi Mi 4

Does anyone know if this Mi 4 or any of the other phones work out of box in canada?
If not, is there a way to get it working on LTE ?
THanks,
Only LTE bands it has out of the box are 1,3 and 41. I am on AT&T in US and no LTE. Edited NV values successfully but no additional LTE bands were enabled.
augie7107 said:
Only LTE bands it has out of the box are 1,3 and 41. I am on AT&T in US and no LTE. Edited NV values successfully but no additional LTE bands were enabled.
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That is unfortunate to hear, what is the fastest connectivity you're getting?
I'm on the AT&T equivalent in Canada known as Rogers.
About 7MB/S which is terrible. I like MIUI and this device is nice quality. Dare I say it has the feel of an iPhone but is loaded with Android so the best of both worlds (I personally detest the closed source IOS). So I'm suffering with no LTE just to use the MI4 but I've got a ZTE Axon for a backup if I need a LTE compatible device. Always near WIFI so it's not often. I will say, no dropped calls or texts with it and I've had it a couple weeks. Call quality is excellent.
Best you can get is 3G or H+. Also in Canada on Fido
dont buy the chinese LTE edition. i hear that does not even do 3g. the wcdma (w) variant does 3g/H+
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dont buy the chinese LTE edition. i hear that does not even do 3g. the wcdma (w) variant does 3g/H+
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I have the China Union LTE model and it has 3G on AT&T.
I am not doubting you. But there are 2 LTE variants.
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TDD LTE <<< GSM 2G ok but no WCDMA 3G
FDD LTE <<< This is the Western one with WCDMA (3G) support

AT&T V10 (H900) has no band 17 support?????

I noticed GSM arena posted some variant specific specs for the V10. They stated that the H900 didn't have band 17 LTE, I thought this couldn't be possible. I checked AT&T's website, sure enough, no band 17. It has the lesser used band 29 (also 700mhz). Can anyone explain why this is? Where i live only band 17 LTE is available, so I hesitate to get the V10. Since both B17 and B29 are 700mhz, would the V10 be able to connect to band B17?
Here it is, straight from AT&T's website:
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I made a post about this if you want to check it out. The short and sweet of it is that bands 12 and 17 are being merged, and they were always on the same frequency from the start, so having both bands is redundant. In other words, since band 12 is available, band 17 is as well, as confirmed by another user for the T-Mobile variant (but it still applies for the AT&T variant).
And if you're really skeptical, don't forget that you are entitled to a buyer's remorse in which the carrier must refund your purchase.
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I made a post about this if you want to check it out. The short and sweet of it is that bands 12 and 17 are being merged, and they were always on the same frequency from the start, so having both bands is redundant. In other words, since band 12 is available, band 17 is as well, as confirmed by another user for the T-Mobile variant (but it still applies for the AT&T variant).
And if you're really skeptical, don't forget that you are entitled to a buyer's remorse in which the carrier must refund your purchase.
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Thanks for the explanation ubergeek. So this means that even an older phone that only supported B17 will now work on, for example, t-mobiles band 12? Very cool!
urushiol said:
Thanks for the explanation ubergeek. So this means that even an older phone that only supported B17 will now work on, for example, t-mobiles band 12? Very cool!
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An older phone that supports B12 can support B17 but only at the specified frequencies it's set at.
Are all variants the same lte band support?
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One word answer, yes.
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