Serious Battery Issues (after Marshmallow Update) - AT&T LG G4

My G4 got the Marshmallow update in early February and hasn't been the same since. First few weeks were okay and I noticed small improvements in touch sensitivity, responsiveness, and connectivity to my home and work WiFi switched automatically without having to manually tell it to connect. I was happy until...
The last couple of weeks, my battery drains drastically fast, even when it is plugged into various chargers. This morning my battery read 35%, while on the charger. I have been rotating a handful of spare batteries to see if there is a problem with any of them, but they all seem to act the same (including the original battery). I have the sync, location, calendar, and Google running, but little else.
Is this a problem that many are having after the MM update, or could it be something else?

first thing to do if you're having issues after a major update is to factory reset

Thanks, snowrelyt! I figured as much, but was hoping that there would be another fix, so that I didn't have to set up the device all over again.
Lately, my G4 has rebooted itself a few times over the last week or two, so a reset is inevitable... I just need to get the battery above 18% for that! LOL

Query: Factory Reset
DebbieNY13 said:
Thanks, snowrelyt! I figured as much, but was hoping that there would be another fix, so that I didn't have to set up the device all over again.
Lately, my G4 has rebooted itself a few times over the last week or two, so a reset is inevitable... I just need to get the battery above 18% for that! LOL
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Deb--Did a reset resolve the problem??? I am just now encountering similar problems, beginning yesterday. My phone went from 98% to 19% overnight, and it was turned off, sitting on the nightstand.
I have four batteries, and a couple of Qi chargers, and I think they are getting a full charge when on the Qi or on the LG charger. However, I just now had trouble getting the phone to fire up, and put in a "new battery" at 92%, and Battery Doc said 60% right after I got the phone up & running.
I hate the thought of doing a factory reset, but if that's what's necessary, I guess I have to. Did the reset solve your difficulty, apologies for repeating that question. Enzo Ferraro, Long Beach, California

enzo ferraro said:
Deb--Did a reset resolve the problem??? I am just now encountering similar problems, beginning yesterday. My phone went from 98% to 19% overnight, and it was turned off, sitting on the nightstand.
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Sorry, about the delay, Enzo! I don't get on here much.
I finally got around to doing a hard reset yesterday, because the battery draining was getting too often and very random. I also had a few spontaneous reboots while I was trying to type, so I knew there was no escaping it.
enzo ferraro said:
I have four batteries, and a couple of Qi chargers, and I think they are getting a full charge when on the Qi or on the LG charger. However, I just now had trouble getting the phone to fire up, and put in a "new battery" at 92%, and Battery Doc said 60% right after I got the phone up & running.
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Haha, you're like me: Can never have enough spare batteries (I've got 4 or 5)! First thing I always do is buy at least one or two extra batteries. I tried using different batteries and chargers, but the behavior still happened at odd times, so I deduced that it had to be my G4.
enzo ferraro said:
I hate the thought of doing a factory reset, but if that's what's necessary, I guess I have to. Did the reset solve your difficulty, apologies for repeating that question. Enzo Ferraro, Long Beach, California
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It seems to have resolved what was going on. After a hard reset, I noticed small changes in the look & a few functions of the OS that I hadn't seen before. Also, after Google Play reinstalled my applications, I noticed that some of them looked/behaved differently, although I don't know if a few of them were already due for an update yet or not. Yesterday, I forgot to put my phone on the charger and it was still at almost a full charge this morning. I'll have to put my G4 and the battery through a few cycles though, but it's looking like things are back to normal now. I can only imagine that I most likely had some residual stuff left over from the Lollipop OS that was interfering with the Marshmallow OS.
Back when I had my Windows Mobile phones, I would flash/reset my phone almost every other week trying out new ROMs like it was nothing and I always hard reset afterward, but I have yet to even begin to mess with my G4. I just can't grasp Android's differences that well (everything is still Greek to me) and this is my second Android phone (had my HTC Desire Z for about 4-5 years ). Couple that with how most everyone here uses terms/abbreviations that make zero sense to me (spell it out, damn it! :silly and I just may be on the AT&T G4 ROMs forever!
I hope all goes well for you, Enzo!

I'm getting heavy drain when the screen is on. More so than with 5.1

I just got a used G4 today with MM on it and it literally has the worst battery life of any phone I've ever owned. This sucks.
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It is possible to revert to 5.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66316842&postcount=113
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And I thought I was one of the lucky ones...

Had the g2x since launch day, loved the speed, size, etc. Never had a single reboot (actually did once or twice while charging in the first few days), screen bleed and had fairly good battery life to boot with fairly heavy usage. What more can you ask for, right?
So fast forward to today...i was in the middle of typing a text and battery died, I was at 1%. So I plug it in, turn it on and then it got really hot and non stop rebooting only while on the charger. Taking it off the charger would stop the reboots, plug it in again reboot cycle again within minutes (no sound to warn me its rebooting, no start up animation).
Eventually when it was on the charger the battery icon looked really weird, it was completely white with 2 circular arrows in it, never seen that before, anyone know what that means.
After a while the phone cooled down and has now been charging for he last hour with no rebooting. I did call Tmo and they are sending me a new battery and handset.
I am unsure what to do, keep mine since it appears to be fine now or keep the replacement items. I am not rooted completely stock with minimal apps installed.
I really, really dont feel like setting up all my prefs again and reinstalling apps. One thing is for sure i am seriuosly considering the HTC sensation now. Had the MT4G before and it was great, so my perception of HTC is high.
mikea3000 said:
Had the g2x since launch day, loved the speed, size, etc. Never had a single reboot (actually did once or twice while charging in the first few days), screen bleed and had fairly good battery life to boot with fairly heavy usage. What more can you ask for, right?
So fast forward to today...i was in the middle of typing a text and battery died, I was at 1%. So I plug it in, turn it on and then it got really hot and non stop rebooting only while on the charger. Taking it off the charger would stop the reboots, plug it in again reboot cycle again within minutes (no sound to warn me its rebooting, no start up animation).
Eventually when it was on the charger the battery icon looked really weird, it was completely white with 2 circular arrows in it, never seen that before, anyone know what that means.
After a while the phone cooled down and has now been charging for he last hour with no rebooting. I did call Tmo and they are sending me a new battery and handset.
I am unsure what to do, keep mine since it appears to be fine now or keep the replacement items. I am not rooted completely stock with minimal apps installed.
I really, really dont feel like setting up all my prefs again and reinstalling apps. One thing is for sure i am seriuosly considering the HTC sensation now. Had the MT4G before and it was great, so my perception of HTC is high.
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If you don't notice any problems, keep it
The same thing happened to me this morning
Battery health status OVERHEAT
took off battery cover, i powered off through menu, powered back on through button
WHITE BATTERY REFRESH LOGO followed by media scan
Working as good as ever, and actually my battery life is a little better
Get a new battery asap. Yours is bad if it's overhearing during charge.
diablos991 said:
Get a new battery asap. Yours is bad if it's overhearing during charge.
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im kind of in the same boat as the op but not as bad on the overheating. how do i get a new battery? i bought from amazon and its past the return period.
My opinion of LG is really low. First the sd card slot died on my Optimus T and then numerous problems with my returned G2x. I hate to say it, but the grass is definitely greener on the HTC side right now. I will be checking out the sensation if permaroot happens.
yup, mine did the same thing. all was good for a month or so then boom my battery just freaked out. I wrestled with it a few days then last night it went from 100% - 0% in 6hrs while powered off. It's the battery. Get a new one.
Mine doesn't reboot...it just shuts off. Won't turn back on until I yank the battery. Only issue happens like once a day. But ill point out I'm now pissed Droid x gets gb Friday and I'm still using froyo...granted.by choice because I refuse to use a leak.
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ericc191 said:
My opinion of LG is really low. First the sd card slot died on my Optimus T and then numerous problems with my returned G2x. I hate to say it, but the grass is definitely greener on the HTC side right now. I will be checking out the sensation if permaroot happens.
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Not to change subject here but permaroot doesn't do much if the bootloader is locked. Gaining root doesn't mean custom roms or mods. You'll be able to use Titanium Backup but so what.
Also, back on topic. There are lots of reports that the batteries are bad and if it is over heating I'd definatly replace it.
Tmo sent me a replacement G2x after I thought I fried mine. I fixed it eventually by flashing several CWM recoveries. The replacement had nasty screen bleed. Needless-to-say I sent the replacement packing.
I was using my phone all day yesterday like usual I let my battery die all the way before charging again and today for some reason my battery is dying quickly.
Took off the charger at 6 am and it is now 11am and I have only 50% usually I have 70% or so. I hope my battery is not crapping out on me... I guess Ill find out in the next few days maybe this is just a fluke... I hope...
player911 said:
Not to change subject here but permaroot doesn't do much if the bootloader is locked. Gaining root doesn't mean custom roms or mods. You'll be able to use Titanium Backup but so what.
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Good thing it's not gonna be locked then eh?
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/htc-decides-to-unlock-bootloaders-moving-forward/
RevenG said:
Good thing it's not gonna be locked then eh?
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/05/htc-decides-to-unlock-bootloaders-moving-forward/
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It is locked and HTC said this policy applies only moving forward. Which means future phones. There is no word about existing phones yet.
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I am on my third G2x. From the day I received the last one(3 weeks ago) it has been rock solid(NO reboots-no screen freezes- no dropping data connections). Two days ago I bought a router and decided to use wifi in my home. Since hooking it up and running the G2X on it I find that I have reboots-screen freezes and oh yes data connection dropped (numerous times)I guess the wifi is just not meant for this phone. 3 weeks of happy usage and bam!! wifi in the house. I have also had apps changing settings without my doing so( never happened before wifi usage<) Also now the Gps is even worse than before.Been running it without the wifi and still getting the same issues now. Oh how I wish I had just stopped after the second one and asked for refund. This could (and probably will be eventually) a super super phone. I just don't know if I have the patience to wait . I just ordered an Asus Transformer which will be here on 5/31/11, maybe playing with it will soften my stance on how I view the G2x at this moment. Anyone else had the wifi situation?
I'm rooted with cwm. I have random freezes but it appears to only be random kernels. As well as only certain versions of android. Once the gb update comes out, I'm sure alot of our problems will clear up...
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Odd Battery Problem

OK I HAVE searched the forums, but it seems this is a combination of a bad battery and/or the sudden death problem, however, the phone is less than 6 months old, the problems have all of a sudden appeared and I was able to get the phone back up an running so now I don't know what to think.
In the past week, I have noticed my GS3 just completely shuts off without warning even though it displays the battery at about 20%. When I plug it in and restart the phone, it shows 0% and charging. This has happened about 5 times now in the past week or so. Today, it happened again, but I was in the car. I tried to use my friend's car charger and it didn't seem to work. The phone kept buzzing like it wanted to turn on or charge but it wouldn't. I got home after a few hours and plugged it in. I tried to start it and it got past the SAMSUNG screenand then to the splash screen but it hung at the splash screen and would not boot up. I tried several times to boot, did a battery pull, even wipes the caches. No luck. Finally I went into recovery and did a complete wipe and restored a backup from March. I got the phone back up and running and all my apps are updated.
Does this make any sense?
Why all of a sudden would the phone misrepresent the battery life at 20% when its 0%?
Why would this 20% issue only start this week?
Why would the phone not even be able to boot up after going to 0%?
A bad battery seems unlikely since the phone is less than six months old and the sudden death issue is unlikely because I was able to restore with a recovery backup.
Any help would be appreciated. I am running Synergy ROM Nightly JB (r169) and the kernel is [email protected] #011013 from January 10, 2013.
Thanks,
Jim
Phone maybe not reading battery correctly? If it happens again, I would try wiping battery stats in recovery
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Hi thanks for the reply, but I'm pretty sure wiping the battery stats doesn't actually do anything. I'm not sure why there would be the option to do it in the first place but most battery issue posts in the forums indicate that wiping battery stats is a falacy.
Thanks anyway,
Jim
deleting batterystats.bin fixed this problem for me. it wont hurt your phone.
I charged to 100%, deleted batterystats.bin, drained to 0%, charged up to 100%, never had the issue again.
youre right it doenst improve anythign battery life or anythig, but it can still fix problems.
Out of curiosity, why are you still on 169?
443 is out, and running real nice
With that being said, if this is an OEM battery (or if it's not,) it could be that the battery is the issue.
I always have a couple of spare OEM batteries on hand for extra juice if the need arises, and they come in handy if I ever have to isolate a battery issue.
You can always pick one up for about $20, and see if it is your original battery which is the culprit.
Btw, here is pretty much the gold standard on batteries.
It is an excellent reference, makes for some good reading, and can come in handy
It includes a whole lotta info on Lithium ion batteries, which is the chemistry used in modern cell phones/smartphones, and a lot of other applications.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
Biker1 said:
Out of curiosity, why are you still on 169?
443 is out, and running real nice
With that being said, if this is an OEM battery (or if it's not,) it could be that the battery is the issue.
I always have a couple of spare OEM batteries on hand for extra juice if the need arises, and they come in handy if I ever have to isolate a battery issue.
You can always pick one up for about $20, and see if it is your original battery which is the culprit.
Btw, here is pretty much the gold standard on batteries.
It is an excellent reference, makes for some good reading, and can come in handy
It includes a whole lotta info on Lithium ion batteries, which is the chemistry used in modern cell phones/smartphones, and a lot of other applications.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
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OK I'll check it out. I am still on 169 because it works and I didn't want to fiddle around with it too much. I looked at the new features and there really isn't anything I'm missing. Also, I have Google Wallet working well without any issues and I did not want to screw up Wallet by upgrading. I'm waiting for 4.2 to come out with Touch Wiz (I actually like TW) and then I will upgrade... unless there is a new feature I'm not aware of?
Jim
calaski8123 said:
OK I'll check it out. I am still on 169 because it works and I didn't want to fiddle around with it too much. I looked at the new features and there really isn't anything I'm missing. Also, I have Google Wallet working well without any issues and I did not want to screw up Wallet by upgrading. I'm waiting for 4.2 to come out with Touch Wiz (I actually like TW) and then I will upgrade... unless there is a new feature I'm not aware of?
Jim
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Regarding any new features in SynergyROM r443, I would recommend reading the Changelog here, as there's been a few
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792499
If I do a dirty install, will Google Wallet remain or would I need to disable my Wallet account, and then go thru the whole install process again?
Jim
hmmm. the download for R443 doesn't seem to be working... I just get a spinning circle after the mirror link appears but the download never starts. I guess I'll try it again later.
Jim
calaski8123 said:
If I do a dirty install, will Google Wallet remain or would I need to disable my Wallet account, and then go thru the whole install process again?
Jim
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Just to keep everything related to SynergyROM in one place, which makes it easier for others to see and for others to respond to, I'll post my answer in the SynergyROM thread linked above, and post a link
here
Please see the detailed answer here:
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[Q] Razr MAXX HD battery sensor bug?

First of all, I'm happy to be a part of the site now. I'm not new to Android in any way, but have only decided to join a forum because Motorola tech is no help at all, and I can't figure it out on my own.
So here's the story. When I plug my Maxx HD in at night, it functions perfectly, and seems normal. Normal temperature and charge rate. Let's say for example it was at 50% when I plugged it in just before I went to bed at midnight or so. But when I wake up in the morning, the phone is powered off and doesn't register as charging. I unplug it, and it won't power up regularly, so most of the time I have to soft reset just to get the screen on. When it boots up, it runs smoothly like nothing happened. The battery is usually 5% or 10% higher than it was when I plugged it in many hours ago, so it's safe to assume it locks up and shuts down fairly quickly after I fall asleep. I have yet to be able to recreate this problem while I am awake. I have tried disabling, reenabling, and uninstalling just about everything, and the problem doesn't seem to relate to anything in the software. The curious thing is that this problem does not occur regularly. Sometimes, it will happen 3 nights in a row. Other times, it won't happen for a week.
A side effect of this, it seems, is that when it does decide to hold a charge, it will run from 100% to 90% and hold there for an hour or so, no matter how lightly or heavily I use it. Then, out of the blue, it will drop to around 60% or 70%, and the rest of the day will drop at a regular rate.
I've been searching for a solution for this problem for weeks and haven't found a valid answer other than "use a Motorola charger" "get a new phone" the always relevant "Have you tried an FDR?", and the typical answers from a bored Motorola employee about whether I've turned the phone off and on again.
To reply to those answers, yes, I've used a regular Motorola charger, Verizon's most powerful and expensive speed charger, and even the cheapest charger I can find and it still shuts off and won't charge no matter the charger. I currently use the Verizon charger because it is the most convenient and fastest charging.
No, I can't return it because the RMHD was a trade. I don't have the receipt of any documentation of the purchase. I had an S3 that I disliked because, let's be honest, Touchwiz is intrusive and irritating at times, and I was too lazy to try and find a working rom for it. I cold traded some guy that lived near me for his RMHD, phone for phone. No chargers, no receipts. just straight up trade. His still had the plastic on the screen, and he claimed he changed his mind about it as soon as he took it out of the box and thought it was too thick, and wanted an S3.
As for the FDR, yes I've done that 4 or 5 times now with no change.
So my question is, is this a hardware problem or a problem with the battery sensor? I'm tempted to say that the battery sensor is defective and protects the phone from overheat by shutting it down even when it's at normal temperature and won't take any more charge. But if that was the case, why doesn't it happen every night? Any help is appreciated, and I'm prepared to hear someone say "suck it up until the S4 or the Motorola X is released". Thanks for your help, and if I need to root my precious HD to fix it, I'm prepared to do so.
Sounds like there is an issue with your phone man, If you have already done FDR n whatnot and it still behaves the same, then not sure what else you could do to rectify that. If you have insurance on it you could put in a claim, it would cost money, but not as much as getting another phone.
Id say at this point though, why not unlock, root, try other roms, whatever. If for some reason it clears up running something else, then great! If not then you haven't lost anything but the time spent doing it. Id go for the 4.1.2 roms If you do, since they will have everything functioning, 4.2 roms are nice but not everything works yet (camcorder, HDR photos, voice search/transcribing, GPS issues, etc.)
I agree on the moto employees being lazy, they have 3 solutions to everything, FDR, reboot, FDR a ton of times in a row, its kind of insulting when they do that even after you say you already did it. "Hey I got a problem, I FDR, cleared this, rebooted, etc" - me "Did you FDR, clear that, reboot, etc??? Mine runs fine, must be something you did!" - Moto guy
Either way, let us know how it goes, and good luck, hope your issue gets resolved.
hollovoid said:
Sounds like there is an issue with your phone man, If you have already done FDR n whatnot and it still behaves the same, then not sure what else you could do to rectify that. If you have insurance on it you could put in a claim, it would cost money, but not as much as getting another phone.
Id say at this point though, why not unlock, root, try other roms, whatever. If for some reason it clears up running something else, then great! If not then you haven't lost anything but the time spent doing it. Id go for the 4.1.2 roms If you do, since they will have everything functioning, 4.2 roms are nice but not everything works yet (camcorder, HDR photos, voice search/transcribing, GPS issues, etc.)
I agree on the moto employees being lazy, they have 3 solutions to everything, FDR, reboot, FDR a ton of times in a row, its kind of insulting when they do that even after you say you already did it. "Hey I got a problem, I FDR, cleared this, rebooted, etc" - me "Did you FDR, clear that, reboot, etc??? Mine runs fine, must be something you did!" - Moto guy
Either way, let us know how it goes, and good luck, hope your issue gets resolved.
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To put it simply, if there's ANY way I can determine if it's a software issue, I'd like to try it. A phone this expensive really has no excuse to have a hardware issue. I've heard the SIM reader can sometimes cause system problems, so I'll try blowing in the slot like an old N64 cartridge and seeing if maybe it misreads while charging and shuts off because of a speck of dust, or something ridiculous like that..
greydelta38 said:
Would it be worth reflashing the stock Motoblur 4.1.2? I used to run CM10 on the old GNexus, I'd love to use that again on my HD, if it's available.
As for a new phone, if need be, my upgrade happens to be right after the GS4 is released on Verizon so I might as well get that and then not have to worry about F-ing up my primary phone. I'm a little wary of rooting whatever my primary device is, because I've bricked a Bionic with a stupid mistake I made when I was new to Android.
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You could try reflashing the stock rom, and there is a couple CM10 unofficial builds floating around in the roms section. Of course there is always risk in doing anything, but they have a pretty good method for rooting/unlocking, so id say if you feel up to it, go for it.
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You could try reflashing the stock rom, and there is a couple CM10 unofficial builds floating around in the roms section. Of course there is always risk in doing anything, but they have a pretty good method for rooting/unlocking, so id say if you feel up to it, go for it.
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I changed that post after I found a little more info, btw.
I usually don't go for unofficial. The only 10.1 I could find was a 4.2 but call audio, camera, nfc, and wifi weren't working. I wish they had a timeframe on an official release. Moto phones never have enough support.
greydelta38 said:
I changed that post after I found a little more info, btw.
I usually don't go for unofficial. The only 10.1 I could find was a 4.2 but call audio, camera, nfc, and wifi weren't working. I wish they had a timeframe on an official release. Moto phones never have enough support.
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At this point, all CM builds are unofficial. All 10.1 builds are 4.2, 10.0 is 4.1. We are only going to get official when a proper kernel is ready and we have full functionality. 10.0 should have most everything working though, as the official moto builds are on 4.1.2. It does suck, Imagine if moto had never developed that ridiculous bootloader of theirs, we would be in great shape! But it is getting better, just everybody is starting from scratch now that its unlocked, so the pace seems slow.
If you don't mind the camcorder not working, the AOKP and Xenon HD builds are pretty awesome for 4.2. Best way to try them out is to put TWRP on and backup your stock, then you can switch between roms very easily and see if anything improves. The other recoveries should work the same as well, but ive only had experience with TWRP on this phone, and it works very well.
greydelta38 said:
First of all, I'm happy to be a part of the site now. I'm not new to Android in any way, but have only decided to join a forum because Motorola tech is no help at all, and I can't figure it out on my own.
So here's the story. When I plug my Maxx HD in at night, it functions perfectly, and seems normal. Normal temperature and charge rate. Let's say for example it was at 50% when I plugged it in just before I went to bed at midnight or so. But when I wake up in the morning, the phone is powered off and doesn't register as charging. I unplug it, and it won't power up regularly, so most of the time I have to soft reset just to get the screen on. When it boots up, it runs smoothly like nothing happened. The battery is usually 5% or 10% higher than it was when I plugged it in many hours ago, so it's safe to assume it locks up and shuts down fairly quickly after I fall asleep. I have yet to be able to recreate this problem while I am awake. I have tried disabling, reenabling, and uninstalling just about everything, and the problem doesn't seem to relate to anything in the software. The curious thing is that this problem does not occur regularly. Sometimes, it will happen 3 nights in a row. Other times, it won't happen for a week.
A side effect of this, it seems, is that when it does decide to hold a charge, it will run from 100% to 90% and hold there for an hour or so, no matter how lightly or heavily I use it. Then, out of the blue, it will drop to around 60% or 70%, and the rest of the day will drop at a regular rate.
I've been searching for a solution for this problem for weeks and haven't found a valid answer other than "use a Motorola charger" "get a new phone" the always relevant "Have you tried an FDR?", and the typical answers from a bored Motorola employee about whether I've turned the phone off and on again.
To reply to those answers, yes, I've used a regular Motorola charger, Verizon's most powerful and expensive speed charger, and even the cheapest charger I can find and it still shuts off and won't charge no matter the charger. I currently use the Verizon charger because it is the most convenient and fastest charging.
No, I can't return it because the RMHD was a trade. I don't have the receipt of any documentation of the purchase. I had an S3 that I disliked because, let's be honest, Touchwiz is intrusive and irritating at times, and I was too lazy to try and find a working rom for it. I cold traded some guy that lived near me for his RMHD, phone for phone. No chargers, no receipts. just straight up trade. His still had the plastic on the screen, and he claimed he changed his mind about it as soon as he took it out of the box and thought it was too thick, and wanted an S3.
As for the FDR, yes I've done that 4 or 5 times now with no change.
So my question is, is this a hardware problem or a problem with the battery sensor? I'm tempted to say that the battery sensor is defective and protects the phone from overheat by shutting it down even when it's at normal temperature and won't take any more charge. But if that was the case, why doesn't it happen every night? Any help is appreciated, and I'm prepared to hear someone say "suck it up until the S4 or the Motorola X is released". Thanks for your help, and if I need to root my precious HD to fix it, I'm prepared to do so.
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You could always ask Verizon and see if it's under warranty. These phones aren't a year old yet if I am correct. Rooting your device is not the best idea because it technically can void your warranty.
Keep calling. Email Motorola support. Contact your carriers Cs. Or just sell the thing on ebay.
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
jfriend33 said:
You could always ask Verizon and see if it's under warranty. These phones aren't a year old yet if I am correct. Rooting your device is not the best idea because it technically can void your warranty.
Keep calling. Email Motorola support. Contact your carriers Cs. Or just sell the thing on ebay.
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
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As I said in my post, I don't have a warranty, and I don't particularly care about a warranty. Motorola CS is pretty awful, they're all bored and don't really give a crap about your problems, unlike the friendly and caring service I've gotten from Samsung before. I don't want to sell it, seeing as how the RMHD is arguably the best phone on the market for the time being.
UPDATE: I uninstalled a RAM booster called Memory Booster - RAM Optimizer a few days ago, and have yet to have a charging problem. I had the booster set to auto clean the system garbage when the screen was off. I'm making an educated guess here, but I'd be tempted to say that it was killing one of the Android processes that keeps the phone awake while charging, and it would bug out and crash.
Long story short, if you're having a problem with an HD shutting down overnight, UNINSTALL ANY APP KILLERS, TASKERS, OR RAM BOOSTERS.
Hope this works.
Okay, so I thought I was in the clear. I was wrong. It definitely is less frequent, but my RMHD still continues to totally die every night. I've determined that it's definitely NOT a hardware problem. I'm convinced that it may be overheating at night and Android shuts it down for safety, and somehow locks it up in the process. Last night, I went to sleep with 20% battery, and plugged in. This morning it was totally dead and would only respond to a soft reset, booting into recovery, where I prompted a reboot. It started fine, showing 44% battery.
What the hell is going on? I went so far as to reflash Motoblur, and I tried Eclipse 4.1.2 and still had the same problem. Is it maybe an app that is hostile? Someone has to know how to fix this huge annoyance.
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Okay, so I thought I was in the clear. I was wrong. It definitely is less frequent, but my RMHD still continues to totally die every night. I've determined that it's definitely NOT a hardware problem. I'm convinced that it may be overheating at night and Android shuts it down for safety, and somehow locks it up in the process. Last night, I went to sleep with 20% battery, and plugged in. This morning it was totally dead and would only respond to a soft reset, booting into recovery, where I prompted a reboot. It started fine, showing 44% battery.
What the hell is going on? I went so far as to reflash Motoblur, and I tried Eclipse 4.1.2 and still had the same problem. Is it maybe an app that is hostile? Someone has to know how to fix this huge annoyance.
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Not hardware but it gets hot and shuts down? Sounds like hardware to me.
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Yeah sounds like hardware.
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Not hardware but it gets hot and shuts down? Sounds like hardware to me.
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It's not hardware. I reflashed stock 4.1 AGAIN, and have yet to have it screw up. It's been about a week and a half since. Motorola sent me a new charger just in case. I know you guys think it's hardware but for some reason I'm totally convinced that it was an app screwing with Android. I guess I'll find out sooner or later. Thanks for the feedback.
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[Q] Mytouch 4G Slide bricked while using

I installed a stable version of cyanogenmod 9 on my phone and the system was working perfectly, but I spent some time without using it because it didn't have any signal(I think its aerial is broken). After some time I decided to try to fix it, so I turned it on. It booted normally, but shortly it turned off by itself. Then I tried to turned it on again successfully, but again it turned off. I thought it was the battery so I plugged the phone, but it wasn't showing any sign of being charged. So I tried to charge the battery out of the phone and I checked its voltage, but when I put it back in the phone, it didn't work. The only thing I see, when I try to turn it on is a dim red light in the trackpad.
Any ideas of what happened? Is this reversible?
Thanks in advance.
I'm no expert, but it unfortunately sounds bricked to me.
Similar thing happened on my 1st MT4GS after like a week of owning it. We were on vacation and I was playing fruit ninja, slashing happily away as the phone was plugged in for bedtime. All of a sudden it turns off. I'm like WTF, it was charging! But it apparently wasn't, and similar symptoms to you. No other lights/charge/indication of anything working. Just the dim red light in the track pad I could get to go on and off. Since it was just over a month old after I got back from vacation, I wound up having to ship to HTC rather than walk out with a new one from t-mobile, but they sent me a replacement I've been using since.
So sorry I don't have better news, but it sounds like what happened to me, and it was dead and had to be replaced.
Hi,
This has happened to me two or three times but thankfully I have a few other devices so I needn't worry much.
When this happens I take out sim, SD and battery for a week or so. Upon reinserting battery all was good each time.
If you have a spare try it, I can't say for sure if we are on the same boat but its worth a shot before throwing it away.
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Here is a link that I and a few other discussed our issues, none the same but all similar.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257451
Also there are plenty of other threads I seen on this as well, search around a bit and hopefully you'll find an answer
Best of luck!
So there's some threads I just shouldn't read ...
After coming across this today my phone has started turning off by itself (doing routine things, like pressing the "Read" button on an SMS). There's gotta be a weird coincidence there (I had an underclock issue where the screen wouldn't come on a couple months ago while earlier that day I was reading the post on how to replace a bad LCD panel - so I get to overreact like that).
I think my issue is more about battery as I have been tracking it the past several hours (three shutdowns in a row at 60% battery, and then one ten minutes ago at 20%) but it continues to work itself out (with some weird stuff like notification panel crashing on me on one of the last reboots).
I have what I presume is a cheap 1900mAh battery (EZOPower) that is starting to show it's wrinkles. I have dropped the max processor speed a notch according to a recommendation in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753720
...hopefully that was the issue. I nandroid'd my device just in case something goes wrong. If it continues, I'll swap batteries and see.
I'm hesitant to shell out for a couple Ankers because I currently have my eye on the LG Optimus F3Q (although getting one would be three months away, I gotta have priorities).

[Q] [q] battery charge indicator incorrect after water damge and restore

Hello,
I have searched and searched this forum to find any threads or posts that describe this problem. I have found lots of similar ones, but none like this, so that is why I have started a new thread. If I missed this topic somewhere, I apologize for not having found it.
My wife and I both have Skyrockets (GSII - I727). Stock AT&T ROM (not rooted), but both unlocked. Mine got partially wet last week (toilet incident, would rather not elaborate, but I will answer the first question everyone asks - yes it was a "clean" toilet ) Anyway, I immediately liberally rinsed all ports with alcohol and warmed gently with a hair dryer. After drying I powered up, and everything worked, except the battery percentage display (with a variety of completely fresh and fully charged batteries), would only show in the 50 - 68% charge range, and the phone seemed to die at about the rate one would expect commensurate with those numbers. Put it in a bag of rice for 2 days. No better.
So, after reading here and watching several YouTube videos, I completely disassembled the phone. cleaned all ports, ribbon connectors, mother board, etc. with CRC electrical contact cleaner spray using the spray tube and a very gentle toothbrush. I paid special attention to the micro USB charging port, and all other contacts and circuits that seemed to be related to charging, though I am by no means an electrical engineer or technician, so a lot of it was guesswork. I made sure all was dry and new looking. All contacts intact, no visible corrosion or bridging, and reassembled the phone perfectly (pretty proud of myself for not breaking anything in the process!)
The phone still works great, except for the battery percentage display issue. I have tried everything I've read on this forum about recalibrating the battery meter - discharging fully and then charging up. With the phone on, with the phone off, every permutation I can think of. I tried clearing the cache and rebooting. Still, the maximum the display will read is 68% and that's it, and the phone behaves and dies like it has a battery that is only 68% full, even though I know I am putting 100% charged batteries into it. I have verified this by putting the same batteries into my wife's identical phone and it displays 100%.
If my phone we're lasting as long as it normally would with a fully charged battery, I wouldn't be so bothered by the display being inaccurate, but that is not the case. I've downloaded CPU SPY and some other apps to see if my phone is using an unusual amount of battery resources, but it is not. So, that's the story.
I am not afraid of rooting the phone, and I have no warranties left so I don't care, it's just that from what I've read here on the forum, people with somewhat similar issues have not benefitted from rooting and then running apps or programs that are only available to rooted phones, so I would prefer not to go down that time consuming route, if all I'm going to do is hit another dead end.
So, any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Ron M.
This may sound dumb, but did you try a factory reset?
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This may sound dumb, but did you try a factory reset?
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Thank you for your post sireniankyle. Not a dumb question at all, and actually the answer is no. I have certainly considered it, but I haven't done it yet for 2 reasons.
The first is that from all the research I've done, trying to find others who had similar experiences (I have yet to find anyone with the IDENTICAL problem), they have all without exception reported that factory reset did not solve their problem.
Second, because of my previous experiences with doing a factory reset, it seems that no matter how well I am backed up, that it turns into a very time consuming process in getting the phone tweaked and with all the applications and setting back to where I had them. So, I've been holding out and saving factory reset as one of the last resorts.
The other last resort is to root the phone, because apparently there are some apps that might be able to reset the battery counter that will only work on a rooted phone. However, again in my research thus far, I haven't identified anyone with a rooted phone with a similar problem who has had succeeded in solving the problem.
Perhaps this weekend if/when I have the time and patience I will attempt one or both of the above. It's just that I have such low expectations of success that am reluctant to start down those paths.
If you, or anyone else on this forum can point to any experiences where these methods actually worked for someone in this same or similar situation, I would very much appreciate if you could direct me to the appropriate thread.
Thanks again very much for your input, and your further assistance and suggestions would be most appreciated.
Best regards,
Ron
No problem. I just try to help out where I can.
I can't say that I have had any of these issues. I understand the issues with backing up, but if you install twrp, you can create an entire backup of your phone. I've done it many times before without issue, and if resetting it doesn't work, you can still go back to your original set up.
It seems like you may be a pioneer in this particular issue. I hope you figure it out. Both for yourself, and for others who have this problem in the future.
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No problem. I just try to help out where I can.
I can't say that I have had any of these issues. I understand the issues with backing up, but if you install twrp, you can create an entire backup of your phone. I've done it many times before without issue, and if resetting it doesn't work, you can still go back to your original set up.
It seems like you may be a pioneer in this particular issue. I hope you figure it out. Both for yourself, and for others who have this problem in the future.
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Thanks again sireniankyle!
I used to like being a "pioneer", but as I get older now I just want my stuff to work, and don't have the time or the patience to go where no man has gone before Nevertheless, I absolutely hate to admit defeat, and now that you've turned me onto twrp (do I have to root first to use it?), then perhaps that will make the experiment less time consuming, so I may try this weekend if time allows.
In the meantime, the phone continues to function normally in every other way. I simply carry a couple fully charged batteries in my pocket throughout the day, which are of course 100% charged via my wall charger, but show as 58% as soon as I put them in the phone, and then die at approximately the rate one would expect from a 58% charged battery! Weird huh?
Best regards,
Ron
Was given a Skyrocket the other day which suffers from the same kind of problem (had massive water damage), but the battery percentage is stuck at 0%. So of course it will not even boot up. (Fully charged the battery in a wall charger.) Only thing the power button will do is vibrate the haptic feedback given at first power on, no screen activity. Funny thing is it'll go into Download mode perfectly normally and sit on the Odin mode screen till I assume the battery dies. However it will not go into Recovery mode. Plug in a USB charging cord to charge block or a port on a PC and the phone powers on and works perfectly fine, though forever stuck at 0% battery.
So the only thing I can think of to quickly get around this is without solving the problem, if in fact it can be, is to get a charging case. Like such, for example. http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/XPAL-Galaxy-S2-Skyrocket-PowerSkin-Case-i727-Extended-Battery-Gel-Cover-OEM-New-/310903753323 Had one similar before for another model and when installed it shows as if the phone is charging. So in theory will work for me, though powered strictly by the cases battery. Should work for you even better as you'll get the cases battery life then your own 58% worth of battery life. Edit, just realized when the last post was made, you probably have a new phone and moved on by now.
**I'm going to try to craft myself a homemade powered case yet, have tons a batteries kicking about.

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