Hi everyone.
I recently replaced my shatter LCD and was subsequently trapped in a bootloop. I began to wonder if the LCD I ordered was defective, so I removed the new screen and attached the old one. The device booted up fine (as fine as a devastated LCD screen would permit anyway). I detached the broken screen and reattached the new one and the device seems to be working fine.
I am now worried that shutting down the device will cause it to enter a boot loop again. Would reflashing the stock rom solve this issue? Has Motorola installed a failsafe that would prevent devices from booting up if there is a replacement screen attached to the logic board??
I am having the same issue, did you find a solution?
mike29892 said:
I am having the same issue, did you find a solution?
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Unfortunately, no. After replacing the screen I've opted to keep the device on. Have you turned your phone off after getting it to work with the new screen?
ElonNoir said:
Unfortunately, no. After replacing the screen I've opted to keep the device on. Have you turned your phone off after getting it to work with the new screen?
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I restored the phone to 5.1 and it booted up fine. Unfortunately my new screen seems defect, it has phantom touches and is not accurate. Perhaps with 6.0 a screen hardware test was added on bootup and both of our devices are failing it?
mike29892 said:
I restored the phone to 5.1 and it booted up fine. Unfortunately my new screen seems defect, it has phantom touches and is not accurate. Perhaps with 6.0 a screen hardware test was added on bootup and both of our devices are failing it?
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Were the phantom touches present before restoring to 5.1? I'm running Marshmallow right now and I don't have a phantom touch issue. I've thought about reflashing stock rom and updating back to 6.0 but if a hardware test was indeed added, perhaps Flashing CM will allow the phone to operate free of bugs. Maybe that's just wishful thinking.
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Were the phantom touches present before restoring to 5.1? I'm running Marshmallow right now and I don't have a phantom touch issue. I've thought about reflashing stock rom and updating back to 6.0 but if a hardware test was indeed added, perhaps Flashing CM will allow the phone to operate free of bugs. Maybe that's just wishful thinking.
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I couldn't even get the device to boot before restoring to 5.1. I was on 6.0 broke my screen and then replaced the screen. After turning the phone back on it entered a boot loop. I restored to 5.1 and it was able to boot, but the touch screen was all wonky, and getting phantom touches. I tried to flash 6.0 again and it just put me in the boot loop again.
Same issue here on XT1540. Ordered from the most popular seller on Ebay. I'm wondering running CM might fix it.
Update - unlocked bootloader and flashed CM12 - no issues any more with new LCD. Maybe some sort of hardware check with the stock ROM? Tested the digitizer with the "pointer location" dev tool and it was accurate.
Update 2 - can't seem to boot into TWRP with the new screen and CM12 flashed. Rom boots with no issues and runs with no issues though. Old broken screen boots TWRP no problem. Not sure why this is. Can boot cyanogen recovery but that doesn't seem to flash correctly.
fresh cut vegetables said:
Same issue here on XT1540. Ordered from the most popular seller on Ebay. I'm wondering running CM might fix it.
Update - unlocked bootloader and flashed CM12 - no issues any more with new LCD. Maybe some sort of hardware check with the stock ROM? Tested the digitizer with the "pointer location" dev tool and it was accurate.
Update 2 - can't seem to boot into TWRP with the new screen and CM12 flashed. Rom boots with no issues and runs with no issues though. Old broken screen boots TWRP no problem. Not sure why this is. Can boot cyanogen recovery but that doesn't seem to flash correctly.
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Sorry for the delayed response. How did you manage to flash a ROM if the device goes into bootloop when turned off or rebooted? This is what is keeping me from doing it flashing CM. I fear the device will reboot during the flashing process and it will be borked and stuck in a bootloop.
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Sorry for the delayed response. How did you manage to flash a ROM if the device goes into bootloop when turned off or rebooted? This is what is keeping me from doing it flashing CM. I fear the device will reboot during the flashing process and it will be borked and stuck in a bootloop.
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It won't reboot until the OS starts loading, as long as you can access TWRP you should be safe to flash a custom ROM... it seems to be a known issue that a non-Moto replacement screen will bootloop the OS with Marshmallow but not Lollipop, unknown if CM13 and ROMs based it (which is all custom MM ROMs) will bootloop or not.
Best solution is replace it with an OEM Moto screen, it won't bootloop, only 3rd party ones do.
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Please pardon me for any faux pas as I am new here.
Mods please refer me to the appropriate thread and close this one, in case this one is a duplicate.
It seems my Moto G 1 Gen XT1033 is hardbricked. I had been running a CM 12 for falcon - nightly release since May 2015 and had had no problems so far. I had also upgraded my recovery to CWM Touch.
Two weeks ago, my phone got stuck in a boot loop (I now realise that that is called a softbrick), I managed to boot into recovery and updated my OS with the latest nightly release of CM 12 for my phone. I also tried to upgrade the recovery version with the same as that of the OS version but I don't think that it got upgraded. (I'm not sure what it said).
Anyway my phone was working fine for an hour or so until CM gave some errors on opening the themes configuration, so I thought rebooting my phone would solve the problem.
My phone never booted after that. It didn't even turn on or boot into the bootloader/recovery etc. I checked the battery etc. and it was fine. There was no issue with the hardware.
I then connected my phone to my laptop and it recognised it as qhsusb_bulk. I have spent a lot of time searching and trying various methods like:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/help/how-to-revive-hard-bricked-moto-g-t2833798
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/orig-development/bootloader-tool-motoflasher-t2959076
Using the MotoTool All In One etc.
I cant seem to figure out the problem. I don't even know what my bootloader version was etc.
Is there a problem with my bootloader or recovery? I can't seem to understand.
Can someone please help me with this?
Thanks
Oh man that's unexpected. I never think CM could cause this. I hope you can get it fixed.
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Oh man that's unexpected. I never think CM could cause this. I hope you can get it fixed.
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Thanks man. But no help so far
Bit of an old topic, but wondering whether there's any update? I have a similar issue. I was running 12.1, and installed the nightly update from yesterday, not noticing it was for 13 (Android 6.0). I was then able to get back into recovery and flash a working 12.1 image. The issue now is the phone is stuck in a boot loop, going through "Optimizing app x of 133", gets to the end and then reboots. I can get into the boot menu and select recovery, but it reboots and goes back into the same boot loop. Likewise if I chose Factory from the boot menu.
Any luck on your side?
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Bit of an old topic, but wondering whether there's any update? I have a similar issue. I was running 12.1, and installed the nightly update from yesterday, not noticing it was for 13 (Android 6.0). I was then able to get back into recovery and flash a working 12.1 image. The issue now is the phone is stuck in a boot loop, going through "Optimizing app x of 133", gets to the end and then reboots. I can get into the boot menu and select recovery, but it reboots and goes back into the same boot loop. Likewise if I chose Factory from the boot menu.
Any luck on your side?
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No bro. I've bough a spare phone to survive on till I get a solution for this.
But nothing has worked so far.
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No bro. I've bough a spare phone to survive on till I get a solution for this.
But nothing has worked so far.
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That happened to me too, I think even the same image! It was a long time ago and I have now switched to a Oneplus One after using a Moto E which actually isn't that bad - I got it new super cheap. For me, Cyanogen restarted to update and after a LONG period of time stopped doing anything (I have upgraded before). I couldn't mount anything in CWM and I lost all data irrecoverably. The partition table got all messed up, and I had to flash a dual sim image as it was the only one that loaded - done through fastboot. I then flashed the original kitkat image and then massively messed up and updated, making my phone qhs_bulk.
Basically everyone who has had lollipop on their devices and have this are waiting for files to be leaked from Motorola so they can make their phones work. Not much is happening currently, you might as well get a new budget phone - some of the new ones are much better than the Moto G 1st gen! Or you could do what some people are doing which is ordering broken Moto Gs off eBay and replacing the board. Good luck!
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Tass99 said:
Bit of an old topic, but wondering whether there's any update? I have a similar issue. I was running 12.1, and installed the nightly update from yesterday, not noticing it was for 13 (Android 6.0). I was then able to get back into recovery and flash a working 12.1 image. The issue now is the phone is stuck in a boot loop, going through "Optimizing app x of 133", gets to the end and then reboots. I can get into the boot menu and select recovery, but it reboots and goes back into the same boot loop. Likewise if I chose Factory from the boot menu.
Any luck on your side?
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You may want to go the fastboot method to flash a stock lollipop image and CWM recovery - if you don't have a backup, you may want to try just flashing something like TWRP to see if you can get some files off your device, then completely flash over it.
Hi guy,
I have been trying to figure this out for a while now and can't seam to figure it out. Everytime I flash a CAF based ROM after clicking reboot the phone turns off. During this time it is very hard to get the phone to turn back on. Holding the power button does not seam to do anything. I have to hold the power+volup+voldown for around 30 seconds let go and do it again in order to get back into recovery. I am not getting any errors at all when flashing. I really have no clue what it could be. I have tried every CAF based ROM I have come across here and they all do it. The only thing I can come up with is my phone has had the screen, camera, and battery replaced. Could one of these parts or another part be causing a problem that doesn't allow CAF based ROMS to work? I know its a long shot but thats all I can think of at the moment.
Right now I am working on trying to flash CyanogenMod from this thread. I have tried both version 13 and version 14 both have the same problem. This is what I have tried.
Flash HammerheadCAF reboot back into recovery
Flash bootloader&radio_HHZ20h+2.30.zip reboot to recovery
Flash cm-13.0-20161029-UNOFFICIAL-hammerheadcaf.zip
Flash opengapps
Flash SuperSu
Reboot
Black screen of death
What is wrong with this process? I have also tried the same process with cm-14.0-20161029-UNOFFICIAL-hammerheadcaf.zip. I am now going to try this same process with cm-14.1-20161029-UNOFFICIAL-hammerheadcaf.zip. I don't expect any difference though. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Rocky
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I have tracked the problem down to CAF TWRP. I have formatted the phone which has removed everything except CAF TWRP and I am still getting the black screen of death situation. When the phone reboots it completely turns off. It will not respond unless I hold down power+volup+voldown for around 30 or 40 seconds. Then the phone will finally enter the bootloader. Are there any other recoveries that will flash CAF based ROMs? I don't know what else to do =(
Maybe don't flash supersu? Cm comes prerooted?
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Maybe don't flash supersu? Cm comes prerooted?
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Thanks for your reply and time. I also tried flashing without SuperSU and it did the same thing. When I tapped reboot the phone would not turn on. I also tried just flashing the ROM and rebooting. The problem is with TWRP CAF because I have even formatted the phone so there was no ROM just TRWP CAF and when I tapped on reboot to recovery the phone just turned off. The power button wouldn't do anything. It would not even turn the phone on. The only thing I could do was hold the power+voldown+volup for 30 sec let go and press them again and go into bootloader.
Hey guys anyone else have any suggestions? I have tried sending a support ticket to twrp over a week ago. I haven't heard a word from them. I really want to use CAF ROMs
Hi!
I'm facing the same problem. I've been trying everything I can think of, and everything ended with a black screen when trying to boot:
Flashing stock again and then TWRP and CAF.
Flashing a lower version of TWRP (2.8.7.0) and then flashing CAF.
Flashing an AOSP version of CM, then TWRP for CAF and finally CAF.
Fixing permissions.
Changing filesystems to F2FS.
I tried to logcat, but adb logcat keeps waiting for the phone and it doesnt find anything.
Anybody has another idea of what could be happening or how to solve it?
Thanks!
I can flash caf, aswell as noncaf roms on my N5 just fine.
I used the CM14 darkrom CAF. Excellent performance, great battery life
i wiped the device in TWRP caf (Latest) (system,data,cache,dalvik0
Then i flashed the rom and the Darkrom gapps (use only those, as rom comes withouth a launcher. Pixwl launcher embeded into gapps package)
Wipe cahce/dalvik & reboot
It looped like: GOOGLElogo ,bootanimation ,self restart and it works perfectly fine since then
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I should also mention, that i use the european D821 model
I was beginning to wonder if it was just me. I felt like an ass for posting for help because I felt like it was my fault. I still have not gotten any response at all from twrp support. I really want to use car based Roms. I use to be able to when I first got the phone. Now I don't have a clue what the problem is. I am using the 820 USA model.
After doing a Google search for CAF TWRP no boot black screen and other combinations I have found posts around the web from people with the same issue. The only resolution was to revert to stock. I have sent TWRP support another email linking to this topic as well as contacted them on g+ hopefully we can get a resolution.
since i dont own the device.... no logs= we cant help you
Funny thing is twrp caf and non-caf are identical, the ONLY difference is that they are looking for a different device name when flashing. So I'd suggest to use the non-caf one, download any caf rom, edit the updater-script and replace every "hammerheadcaf" with "hammerhead" and it will flash just fine. If it really is just a twrp issue that will work. But I don't know why, I feel it's bound to be more than that...
I'm having this problem too, I can flash any non-CAF ROM and it will bootup fine, but any CAF rom will leave me in a black screen. Did you found any solution yet?
I have not been able to find a solution to the problem. TWERP tech support seams to be non existent. I have emailed them numerous times. They don't even take the time to say they will look into it =(
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Funny thing is twrp caf and non-caf are identical, the ONLY difference is that they are looking for a different device name when flashing. So I'd suggest to use the non-caf one, download any caf rom, edit the updater-script and replace every "hammerheadcaf" with "hammerhead" and it will flash just fine. If it really is just a twrp issue that will work. But I don't know why, I feel it's bound to be more than that...
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What else could it be if we are able to flash absolutely anything else we want to flash except for a CAFE ROM?
I have never tried editting the updater script. Could you please explain how to do the things you described?
Ok I got an update. Today just for ****s and giggles I tried to flash the latest TWRP twrp-3.0.2-0-hammerhead.img on top of itself from inside TWRP using the image flashing process. I got the black screen I been getting that we are discussing here. Therefore, that tells me that the problem is not with TWRP CAF but with flash recovery's in TWRP. For some reason TWRP does not like that. Therefore, I am manually flashing the fallowing files the old fashion way by hand using the android sdk and adb.
1.) TWRP CAF
2.) The latest bootloader directly from the latest google factory image
3.) The latest radio directly from the latest google factory image
4.) Install the latest build of Dark ROM
I will report back with my findings.
Findings are epic fail. No boot, black screen of death.:crying: After holding down volup+voldown+power I am able to get back into recovery just like with flashing all the files through recovery when I first started. However, I can't get the damn thing to boot the ROM. I don't know what to think anymore. I think we just have to come to the conclusion that CAF based ROMs are out of the question for us :crying: :crying: :crying: When my son gets home and can hold the tablet while I operate the Nexus 5 maybe I will try to make a video of the problem. Hopefully this will help lead to a resolution.
Let me guess. All your phones have been repaired or are second-hand devices, aren't they?
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Let me guess. All your phones have been repaired or are second-hand devices, aren't they?
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will a repaired device not work, mine has had the screen replaced. Nothing else just the screen.
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Let me guess. All your phones have been repaired or are second-hand devices, aren't they?
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Yup, I have replaced the screen, why is that? Is it too much different than the original, shouldn't it work normally?
Not sure what's wrong with the hardware. No CAF for you guys, I'm sorry.
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Not sure what's wrong with the hardware. No CAF for you guys, I'm sorry.
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Wait seriously? because i fixed my screen i am not able to use a caf rom on my device? That seems ridiculous, what would cause that to even be a thing? is there some sort of security flag it checks for?
Yeah I replaced the screen on mine too. Not sure how that plays a role. The only thing I can think of is unless there is a missing driver or something like that because our screens are different.
There's gotta be a way to fix this problem. I wish I knew how to build ROMs, kernels, and recoveries. I don't think anyone will go out of their way to fix a problem that doesn't directly affect them. So for me it is stock, rooted, with ElementalX till this pos croaks.
Not sure what the problem is. Fact is that your screen somehow differs from the 'original' one which causes CAF ROMs to blackscreen.
If you really, really want your phone to run CAF you have to provide a lot more information. You could try to get a running system and fetch some hardware information. Pretty sure there are apps on the Play Store that print hardware brands/model names, etc. Report your results and I'll use the same method to get mine. We should compare. Furthermore we'll need logs. Try to boot CAF. Of course it will blackscreen again but you can reboot to recovery and pull some logs. Maybe last_kmsg and dmesg where the latter one should be even more interesting.
And last but not least I'd like to tag @myfluxi here. Perhaps that's interesting for you...
Alright, This is just because I am trying to take precautions so that way I do not end up with a brick.
Currently I am rocking 5.1 PAC-MAN and things are going well. But LineageOS for MM for 6045 came already and I want to use that as my daily driver.
Here is where I run into a problem. For those of you that know I only have LP radios and modems on my system. Main problem I am having and is keeping me from flashing is the lack of a MM radio and or modem. Is there anyone that is on 6045O that had tried this out without having that lockscreen problem?
If you don't flash the MM radios, you will end up with lock screen issues, unfortunately.
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So apparently I can't read. I have the 6045O and this link has the correct modem files to fix the lock screen issues.
https://mega.nz/#F!u0UBAICD!DzKYnswfK5J6dw5WQNgEDg
6.0.1 modem is the file you need.
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If you don't flash the MM radios, you will end up with lock screen issues, unfortunately.
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So apparently I can't read. I have the 6045O and this link has the correct modem files to fix the lock screen issues.
https://mega.nz/#F!u0UBAICD!DzKYnswfK5J6dw5WQNgEDg
6.0.1 modem is the file you need.
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Attempted. Everything but the pin issue is good. Weird how it trips badly with the PIN. Installing SuperSU as we speak.
EDIT: Looped after SuperSU flash..
EDIT2: Going back to 5.1. Thank you very much for the support.
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Attempted. Everything but the pin issue is good. Weird how it trips badly with the PIN. Installing SuperSU as we speak.
EDIT: Looped after SuperSU flash..
EDIT2: Going back to 5.1. Thank you very much for the support.
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While playing around with ROMs for the phone I had some odd issues here and there. As far as the SuperSU flash, it almost always loops a couple times during the reboot process, but I've switched to the lineageOS official su addon because I like native support and root management. Also it never did those initial boot loops. When I did have an issue (just recently, in fact) I ran a wipe of the system partition, then installed the rom, and ran the repair file system option in TWRP, and since then it's been smooth as butter. If you're interested in giving it another go, just let me know and I should be able to link you the files, as they're on my google drive.
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While playing around with ROMs for the phone I had some odd issues here and there. As far as the SuperSU flash, it almost always loops a couple times during the reboot process, but I've switched to the lineageOS official su addon because I like native support and root management. Also it never did those initial boot loops. When I did have an issue (just recently, in fact) I ran a wipe of the system partition, then installed the rom, and ran the repair file system option in TWRP, and since then it's been smooth as butter. If you're interested in giving it another go, just let me know and I should be able to link you the files, as they're on my google drive.
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May I ask one more thing? Have you ever gotten the PIN lock or password or pattern lock to work?
EDIT: Nvm. Using Hi-Locker for now. All is good.
I use a pattern lock on mine, and after flashing the modem files, the lock screen functions as it should with all methods. Consider re-flashing the modem and ROM if you get to where you want to play with it, full wipe prior, no dirty flash.
Hi guys I'm crazy. I replaced the LCD to xt1541 and always go to bootloop. I tried updating the firmware 6.0.1 stock but the touch does not work and if it reboots back into bootloop. I can not even unlock the bootloader because the touch does not work. Please help me
Non-OEM screens are known to cause bootloop in Marshmallow (and maybe later) versions. You'll need an official screen or the older one for the touch to work again.
Lollipop ? is reported to work fine with 3rd party screens. You may consider downgrading, just leave gpt and bootloader commands when flashing the firmware.
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@Gravemind2015 is correct, the most likely issue is a "cheap" or old display panel... We have seen many times where a non-OEM display panel causes bootloop on Marshmallow, but works fine on Lollipop.
This is why it is often recommended that either you get the device repaired by Moto, repaired by a qualified shop (who guarantees there work), or you use an OEM screen... at the very least don't use one without contacting the seller to verify they guarantee it to work with Marshmallow.
As was mentioned, the only alternative at this point is to downgrade to Lollipop to get the device working, or replace the screen with one that is compatible with Marshmallow.
I know it doesn't make much sense that hardware would cause this specific behavior, but it has been tested and proven multiple times.
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I put old broken screen. It is turned on !!!. I have enabled oem. Unlock bootloader. Root permissions. Flash lineage 14.1 and gapps. Put lcd hack again. And voilà. All perfect!!!
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Update!!!
I put old broken screen. It is turned on !!!. I have enabled oem. Unlock bootloader. Root permissions. Flash lineage 14.1 and gapps. Put lcd hack again. And voilà. All perfect!!!
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Nice! It seems our builds of LOS has a patch that uses the Lollipop touchscreen firmware, which also fixes the ghost touch issue, as do many other custom ROMs. If you ever go back to stock you will likely have issues though.
jackk11111 said:
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I put old broken screen. It is turned on !!!. I have enabled oem. Unlock bootloader. Root permissions. Flash lineage 14.1 and gapps. Put lcd hack again. And voilà. All perfect!!!
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Thanks for confirming!
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I'm posting just to further confirm NON-OEM Screen replacement caused boot loop on XT1543. This replacement screen looks so bad too, its like they are lower resolution but screenshots still come as 1280x720, odd. Anyway, went back to Stock Lollipop. Cheers.
Hi,
I have repeatedly weird issues with my phone. Both on stock rom as well as on custom rom (Renovate ICE) i get permanently apps crashing and the phone rebooting /crashing very often. Its mostly unuseable.
I also had issues in reflashing stock in the first place, as described here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/reflash-stock-fails-mismattached-t3754609 it took many attempts.
Today I wanted to give it a new try flashing the newest Renovate ICE version and now after using Aroma installer (which in the first run threw an error also, only the 2nd run workd) the phone is again not booting at all but stuck on initial logo.
I am feeling this must be a hardware issue. Is there any means to test this (e.g. memory failure, or something similar) ? Any experiences like that by anyone?
Im not sure if I can try to return the phone (it is just a few weeks old) given that i flashed custom firmware. Recent Renovate ROM claims it would Reset Knox to 0x0 but since it does not even boot Im not sure about that either.
Any suggestions?
Thanks