Question about battery choices - Galaxy Note 4 Accessories

I have an AT&T Note 4 and need to figure out a battery option. My current battery is showing signs of dying.
1) Replace with OEM Samsung: Keep the current one as a back up.
2) Buy the Anker deal with 2 batteries and charger: Basically just rotate all three batteries through usage. I'd have to get a new case that was easier to take off to swap batteries consistently.
3) Buy a bigger/extended life battery and deal with the fact that my percentage indicator will never be accurate. (Unless I can temp root to calibrate??)
Thoughts? I'll probably keep this phone AT LEAST until the end of this year.

HotShotAzn said:
I have an AT&T Note 4 and need to figure out a battery option. My current battery is showing signs of dying.
1) Replace with OEM Samsung: Keep the current one as a back up.
2) Buy the Anker deal with 2 batteries and charger: Basically just rotate all three batteries through usage. I'd have to get a new case that was easier to take off to swap batteries consistently.
3) Buy a bigger/extended life battery and deal with the fact that my percentage indicator will never be accurate. (Unless I can temp root to calibrate??)
Thoughts? I'll probably keep this phone AT LEAST until the end of this year.
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Ill be totally honest with you, i have tried all three options
And picked up a ibestwin 10000mah battery half the price of the zerolemon
Very impressed im on around 10hours sot from 6am this morning its now past midnight. Phone is saying still 25percent
I reckom there all the same batteries basically 3 standed batterys in one case...
The case isnt as good as the zerolemom but its sleeker and slimmer.
Anker have a good write up but its just a pain waiting for your battery to die etc
Let me know what you do...
Im llcurrently looking for a way to calibrate my battery.
The app on here is for exynos only

sutty86 said:
Ill be totally honest with you, i have tried all three options
And picked up a ibestwin 10000mah battery half the price of the zerolemon
Very impressed im on around 10hours sot from 6am this morning its now past midnight. Phone is saying still 25percent
I reckom there all the same batteries basically 3 standed batterys in one case...
The case isnt as good as the zerolemom but its sleeker and slimmer.
Anker have a good write up but its just a pain waiting for your battery to die etc
Let me know what you do...
Im llcurrently looking for a way to calibrate my battery.
The app on here is for exynos only
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I'm reading all sorts of mixed messages about calibrating battery. Some people say that cycling will calibrate. I've had the Anker before and cycled it multiple times and in now way was I getting the correct %. I could go to 50%, reboot and get back to 65%. Go down to 10%, reboot, and go back to 30%.
Is battery calibration, while stock, a myth?

I think that's rubbish too but I can guarantee you the cheapest zero lemon battery I mention will last you all day

There is a zerolemon full gauge fix, i can post the link if you wsnant. Its also for other 10.000mah batterys and seems mostly accurate, changes the capacity for the phone that it will think the real mah or something like that. Its implented in custom kernels like the emotion kernel give it a try, nothing to lost if your phone is rooted. I have used a 6440mah seidio an the "battery widget" app worked for me to be accurate, its also in the
3c toolbox, try it if you want, dont know if this function need root :s

HotShotAzn said:
I have an AT&T Note 4 and need to figure out a battery option. My current battery is showing signs of dying.
1) Replace with OEM Samsung: Keep the current one as a back up.
2) Buy the Anker deal with 2 batteries and charger: Basically just rotate all three batteries through usage. I'd have to get a new case that was easier to take off to swap batteries consistently.
3) Buy a bigger/extended life battery and deal with the fact that my percentage indicator will never be accurate. (Unless I can temp root to calibrate??)
Thoughts? I'll probably keep this phone AT LEAST until the end of this year.
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In my country, if you are still under the warranty you can get a new battery right away in the Samsung Service Center.
At least try that first before the second & third option.
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HotShotAzn said:
I'm reading all sorts of mixed messages about calibrating battery. Some people say that cycling will calibrate. I've had the Anker before and cycled it multiple times and in now way was I getting the correct %. I could go to 50%, reboot and get back to 65%. Go down to 10%, reboot, and go back to 30%.
Is battery calibration, while stock, a myth?
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YES, battery calibration NOW is a MYTH (it was not however).

Related

Anker Battery great success

http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1600mAh...9A/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1318871003&sr=8-15
Bought it and my battery life is very good now, I can actually power use my phone without worried about battery. I played fruit ninja and played music via 3g with the speakers for more than an hour and loss like 15% percent battery. Went to bed with the battery at 12% and when I woke up it was at 8%. I can't get you any technical specs but the battery is alot better than stock, and for the price you can't go wrong.
Bought these batteries but after pretty extensive testing, I've got to say that any actual difference is marginal at best. Battery Monitor Widget measures them at nearly the same capacity as the original...the best figure it gave was ~1300mAh but accounting for the % error that's likely a bit overstated. Bottom line...you get two batteries on par w/ stock for a good price...just don't expect any real performance difference between a new stock battery and an Anker.
I too purchased this set of anker batteries and charger. But picked up on ebay for even less from the same amazon dealer. Also I needed the charger to charge batteries for older phones that used a proprietory charger that I didn't have. My stock HTC battery just wasn't keeping up after only a few months old. Maybe it says something for the quality of the OEM battery. Who knows. But after 2 weeks of using one of these batteries the difference is still night and day for me. Charge lasts much longer than my 6 month old OEM battery. Whether they are better/worse than a NEW OEM battery I can't say. But for the price and after running one for 2 weeks I definitely give them 2 thumbs up.
I highly doubt these are 1600 mah, it's probably closer to the stock battery.
You guys are comparing a heavily used stock battery to these new ones. What you should be comparing is a new stock battery vs these and you'd probably end up seeing very little difference.
I agree, I bought the same batteries and I wouldnt say the power was what I expected. I wouldnt say they are worth the price, rather just practice good battery management with the proper settings over the battery.
tejasgadhia said:
I agree, I bought the same batteries and I wouldnt say the power was what I expected. I wouldnt say they are worth the price, rather just practice good battery management with the proper settings over the battery.
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That or have a charger handy at all times lol.
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Well I just got them for Christmas (gosh I love ordering my own gifts from time to time Haha) and Will give a review after I charge one up tonight and give it a few days use. I can say that I got this phone in March and battery monitor widget consistently measures actual capacity between 986 and 1081 mAh. So OEM battery durability seems to be pretty crappy. Fingers crossed for the new ones!
Also, the stock battery in the last month has still been awful with the battery management technique of "put it on the table and do something else while leaving it in idle mode with data connection off"
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News is good! This battery tests at around 1500 mAh, as expected short of the advertised 1600, but far better than the older stock battery! After 5 hrs 5 mins on battery with fairly light use, I have 83% battery left.
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I got one of those on the 25th too. The first couple of days were moderatly light use until I got home from work. Then it was more. Got 26+/- hours out of each charge. Lots better than stock battery that was down to 5% usually after a 10 hr day with the same amount of usage
I wonder how the performance of the battery last over time. As in does the quality compare to that of the stock? So far my stock battery has a charge of about 8 hours on a good charge with moderate use anand its about a year old. How do these compare?
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We shall know in a few weeks/months/Kardashians (you know, 72 days). We will keep you posted man! As terrible as quality was on stock, I don't see how it could get much worse. This battery peaks out aroun 27 degrees Celsius when charging during use and stock would hit 34 degrees consistently.
Have to report that my Anker batteries are still doing great. Battery monitor still reporting both around 1475. I find myself not charging the battery overnight sometimes since I still have a decent charge left. And as someone mentioned it isn't fair to compair these new batteries to a failing stock battery. Stock battery was ONLY 7 months old (not good at all). It too is made in china. You can purchase 2 anker batteries and a universal charger for half the price of an oem replacement battery. Never expected the anker batteries to be 1600. How about someone with a fairly new oem battery and using battery monitor report the mAh they get.
Agoattamer said:
Have to report that my Anker batteries are still doing great. Battery monitor still reporting both around 1475.
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May i ask how long ago you bought this battery?
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calc said:
I highly doubt these are 1600 mah, it's probably closer to the stock battery.
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As from previous experience, It is not a big deal if they are less than 1600mah, so is the case of OEM batteries.
Or a quick Google search will show batteries with much less capacity selling for a lot more.
Agoattamer said:
Have to report that my Anker batteries are still doing great. Battery monitor still reporting both around 1475. I find myself not charging the battery overnight sometimes since I still have a decent charge left. And as someone mentioned it isn't fair to compair these new batteries to a failing stock battery. Stock battery was ONLY 7 months old (not good at all). It too is made in china. You can purchase 2 anker batteries and a universal charger for half the price of an oem replacement battery. Never expected the anker batteries to be 1600. How about someone with a fairly new oem battery and using battery monitor report the mAh they get.
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mine is what i would consider fairly new and battery moniter reports the total mah to be 1230mAh stock OEM htc battery that came with my inspire and i get usually a day and half out of normal use
I have had my batteries for about 2 1/2 months now. Still getting 1470 on average out of each. I switch them every 2 weeks just to keep them fresh.
Great news, I'll be buying these batteries soon then
Just got these myself yesterday. Granted I've only had them one day they have been great and are equal if not better than my original battery. Again this is only after one day use so hopefully it stays the same.
But so far I have 4.25 hours of on-screen time
30 min of GPS with imapmyrun
30 min of Pandora(for my run)
Total time: 1day 2 hours and have about 7 percent left
Wifi and GPS were always on even when not in use. Regular setup of gmail, and yahoo to push my emails
I hope you guys are aware of how lithium ion's work... which these are. I'm positive someone has already said this in some other section, but it should be known as this applies to practically all phones.
Deep discharging frequently will damage the batteries, best not to run these batteries all the way down just because you can....
Heat will kill the batteries quicker than just about anything you throw at it. When you guys deep discharge and have a prolonged recharging time the phone does get hot, also leaving the phone/battery in a hot summer car... well...
Time is another issue. The batteries degrade with time/age, whether you use them or not. If a seller is selling you a "new" battery that's been sitting on their shelf for a couple of years, you're going to get a gimped battery despite it being "new".
I recently got a couple of these batteries, charged them with the wall charger then when i put them into phone, didn't work phone saw them as at 0% and switched off , (yes made sure i put them in the right way.)
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I recently got a couple of these batteries, charged them with the wall charger then when i put them into phone, didn't work phone saw them as at 0% and switched off , (yes made sure i put them in the right way.)
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Sounds like you did something wrong. 2 batteries? I don't care how junky you might find them they should have at least worked. Guessing you did something wrong woth the wall charger. Try charging them in your phone.

Aftermarket Batteries

has anyone tried any of the aftermarket batteries, whether it be from a store, ebay, amazon, etc.
I ordered a 2200mah battery for my Infuse off ebay for $8.
I am going to try that out and see if I get anymore life out of it.
I would have gotten the 3500mah battery, but I use an otterbox and I dont think it would fit since it has the bigger cover to hold the bigger battery.
I work in a metal forging plant, so I have to use an otterbox for my work... so it is a must have if I want my phone to last.
I did order a 3500mah battery for my wifes Samsung Captivate.. She doesn't really use/need a case. I got that off ebay as well.. for about the same price.
I hope her phone lasts longer, because she can't even get a day out of it... hers is rooted running MIUI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20001828
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I got two 1900mah ones from "yourneeds4less" on Ebay. Totally as good as stock.
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I just got one of them 3500 batteries from amazon and its a solid battery, it wont fit on the case because i have the Otterbox case and cant use it with this, but you can definitely tell the difference in how long it lasts, and the case fits on the back of the phone great it has tabs and snaps right in. I use this battery when i am at home using wifi or alot of power on my phone and use the Samsung battery when i leave. Great investment for $10 but when you have the case on the phone it won't do you no good.
hollywood528 said:
I hope her phone lasts longer, because she can't even get a day out of it... hers is rooted running MIUI.
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Getting a larger battery will help, but there's a lot of ways you can manage your phone's power consumption to dramatically increase your battery's life.
Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510745
All I've done is use the power management program Juice Defender (on extreme setting, so data is off unless I toggle it on), not use a live wallpaper, and use a Gingerbread ROM (R3VELATION). With light to moderate use I get about a day of life, and if I took further steps I could even get more out of my battery than that.
EDIT: Whoops, you're the same poster as here, so it looks like the new larger capacity battery has solved your battery problems. I'll just leave this post up here anyway since it might help others.
Would the bigger battery cause it to overheat? or damage the phone in anyway?
tehpatrick said:
Would the bigger battery cause it to overheat? or damage the phone in anyway?
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Doubtful.
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Bought the two pack of 1800 batteries from Anker at Amazon. they work drivers. I no longer have my phone plugged in as I can just charge all of the batteries using their awesome wall charger and such one in when a battery dies.
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I also recommend to use dock charger like on ebay, i bought also 2200mAh batterys so i can charge them both and the free one can charge much faster since it's not in take-and-give cycle like when it's in phone usage.
onefabis said:
I also recommend to use dock charger like on ebay, i bought also 2200mAh batterys so i can charge them both and the free one can charge much faster since it's not in take-and-give cycle like when it's in phone usage.
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Came in here to ask the same question about aftermarket batteries...was thinking about buying the OEM one off ATT site for $30 because I don't see an official aftermarket battery and i'm not sure I want to buy a $10 aftermarket off of amazon or ebay because of stories I hear about cheap China made batteries exploding or damaging the phone in some way
I just placed an order for this.....
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SGH-i...BMJ8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1332809949&sr=8-2
The description doesn't say so but all the reviews say it comes with an OEM battery along with the charger...great deal for $30 in my opinion if it is all OEM
The thing I've read about these batteries is they don't have a shelf life. Meaning as soon as they are made they start to depreciate. Then they sell the old ones on e bay, amazon at reduced prices as they don't last as long as a freshly hot off the press battery.
I have never had any luck in buying a extra mha rating battery, having it last an extra long time. I got Chinese 2500mah it don't last that long, and then I went and got a high capacity gold 2430mah it only last as long as a 1750mah , rather I have no idea how long normal is, as I got my infuse at a pawn shop used, battery last about 5-6 hours, normal usage, but what is normal? What is the basis of comparison? I mostly use it for movies, and wifi and, angry birds which eat my battery up.
My theory is the more you pay the younger they are, a 4 dollar batter last less then a 10th dollar battery. But I don't have the monies to buy every battery in all the price ranges to test and do all that techy stuff. To me it is just a grip shoot. Hit or miss.
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All batteries age during use.
Aging factors are temperature and also voltage.
I think temperature is well known but I don't hear as many people talk about voltage.
Charging your phone to 100% and leaving it on the charger encourages aging.
Some of the cheapo's are not as resistant to aging as the stock batteries. Common story is they work fine for the first day or two and then start to noticeably lose capacity. I noticed that when I tried out the Fujei battery.
Adding to the whole mess as you alluded... evaluating battery life quantitatively is not an easy deal. My usage varies every day.
I get a rough feeling when my battery life is fading but it's subtle.
Battery Monitor Widget has a feature where it estimates your actual 100% battery capacity in milli-Amp-hours (1750 = factory spec but actual will be different and will decrease over time as the battery ages). I think that if you use BMW and allow your phone an uninterrupted charge from low voltage like 20% up to 100% (without using the phone during that period), then it will develop a pretty good estimate of your battery 100% milli-amp-hour capacity (because our phone does have a charging current monitor which BMW accesses, but it does not have a battery discharge current monitor). That's a lot of work, but probably not a bad thing to do once a month to keep track of your capacity so you'd see a trend like 1750 one month, 1700 the next month, etc. I might start doing that some day..
3500mAh Battery
It's been a week, and my battery life is going UP. I plugged in today, and at 1931 hrs today, I still had 61% of my battery life left. I have not had any appreciable decline in battery life, nor reduction in longivity. With the stock battery, my phone is completely dead by 1715. I unplug daily at 0800. My battery life has easily doubled by purchasing a no-name battery from an Ebay seller. I'm quite impressed with it, and I spent $80 on an extended battery when I had my TP2.
Has anyone try those 2500 mah batteries from ebay? I am interest in buying those since they are only 4 USD each. What do you guys think?

Extended Life Battery tempts me:) (a.k.a. extended battery discussion thread)

So I was surfing the intraweb last night and came across http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...galaxy-s-relay-4g-t699-with-battery-door.html. Very tempting, especially considering that according to Mugen it has NFC. What do y'all think? Should I?
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uuh... the relay is already quite thick, with that battery it will be huge... i personally wouldn't, but it's a matter of personal taste
I had an extended battery on my Doubleshot before this - the bulk didn't really bother me. Maybe I'm strange but I didn't mind. Especially with the battery life I got.
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i has extended batteries for my G1 one back then. i used them when i took the device with me geocaching. I had two of them and they made the device stay up longer than i ever did
downside with the bulky back covers is, that the device won't fit into any pouches no more. and, of course cases no longer fit either.
but once you're used to the shape - imho - the added thickness is no longer disturbing.
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So I was surfing the intraweb last night and came across http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...galaxy-s-relay-4g-t699-with-battery-door.html. Very tempting, especially considering that according to Mugen it has NFC. What do y'all think? Should I?
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You can go for this solution....1/5th of Mugen's price:
http://www.hyperionea.com/product/hyperion-samsung-galaxy-s-relay-sgh-t699-2-x-battery-charger/
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
orange808 said:
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
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http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Capacity-Extended-Replacement-SGH-T699/dp/B00AQRVYXY - this one?
Does it have NFC? I don't see it anywhere on the page.
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http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Capacity-Extended-Replacement-SGH-T699/dp/B00AQRVYXY - this one?
Does it have NFC? I don't see it anywhere on the page.
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Nope. No NFC.
I've had my Relay 4G about a month and a half now, and am already looking at getting an extended battery. I find myself charging it a few times a day - sometimes I'll only get maybe 3 hours before it's "critically low". Yes, I do use it a ton - it's currently my main computer, since I rarely have access to my parents' laptop and my desktop, whose case+mobo+cpu I recently sent to the recycle bin, bit the dust over a year ago. Also I have unlimited unthrottled 4G on T-Mobile (and used well over 10-12GB last month, & this (billing) month am currently at 12.21GB since April 28.
I've seen the Mugen 4600mAh battery with NFC online around $90 (way too rich for my blood), and the EZOPower 4100mAh (no NFC) for around $17-23 or so at Amazon or NewEgg, among other places. I was originally wary of the cheap price on the EZO, but if the huge price difference is due to NFC and not being a cheaply made battery, I'd want the EZO, possibly 2. I don't use the NFC hardly at all, and I suppose if I really need it sometime I could pop the original stock battery back in for the occasion.
So any reason for me to NOT get the EZOPower 4100mAh? If I get 2, I'll probably also want an external charging solution so I can charge one while using the other. Also is there a hardshell case (with a built-in stand) available that fits the phone with the larger battery door? BTW unavailability of those two things won't be dealbreakers for me getting the battery. I had an extended battery for my G1, and that phone finally bit the dust after ~4+ years. (I wonder if my SGH-T699 will last that long…)
would somebody care to explain to be why nfc is dependand on the battery?
the batteries have just the same 4 connectors as any other cell battery i always had in my hands.
or are they made of materials that don't shield the nfc waves passing though?
nfc antenna is in the battery casing. NFC antennas go for about $5 on ebay, if you figured out which two connectors go to the nfc you could probably set up your own if your battery doesn't support it.
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Can anyone confirm whether the Relay accurately reports on the extended batteries? I'm currently using a patched Droid 3, but I'm starting to find its limitations too restrictive, and I'm thinking of plonking down for a Relay.
EZO battery
orange808 said:
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
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I also picked up two EZO batteries. They have a well made cover and last for twice what stock does. Unfortunately it didn't have a NFC antenna and both have now swollen up to the point they no longer fit. While I had left them plugged in after full charge, they seem to stay warm and not tolerate it well. Can't say how well they could have lasted if better cared for, but abuse or overcharging seems to effect them quickly.
Does the mugen or other brands also have issues? If anyone else have suggestions.
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5318008 said:
Can anyone confirm whether the Relay accurately reports on the extended batteries? I'm currently using a patched Droid 3, but I'm starting to find its limitations too restrictive, and I'm thinking of plonking down for a Relay.
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Well, it just displays a percentage. It at least seems accurate while logging with Juice Defender's graph, it would track down at fairly consistent rate until charged or out of power. As for swapping over to a Relay, It's about as well supported as any slider out right now. I haven't been disappointed.
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the EZObattery rocks. For $19 (I got mine on ebay) I get 2 days and a few hours into the 3rd before needing a charge.
I have the same issue kilr00y mentioned about it not fitting into pouches or cases except I found now that the phone is harder to flip open and safely hold at the same time while doing 90 other things at once which is when I always need to use the phone. I keep an aftermarket case on the front screen part but can't find an extended back case. I made my own from a tube of black silicone but would love to hear it if anyone finds another option. I don't mind if the phone turns into 1988 brick style size so long as the battery lasts and I don't crack the screen again.
I was looking at extended batteries and if I'm not mistaken, there seems to be a genuine extended battery that should work with this phone. Just would need an extended battery cover. Battery model is: EB-L1K6ULZ (Link)
rudias said:
I was looking at extended batteries and if I'm not mistaken, there seems to be a genuine extended battery that should work with this phone. Just would need an extended battery cover. Battery model is: EB-L1K6ULZ (Link)
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It looks good. Be aware that most "extended" battery will not last long... In particular when they have a lower voltage than the original battery. Lot of battery with higher mAh run at 3.7V instead of 3.8V this make it last shorter than the original.
I've had 2 of the EZOPower 4100mAh batteries, and am experiencing the same problem that stonefoz mentioned about the batteries swelling. In my case, for example, the current one has gotten to where the cover will just spontaneously pop off, and the battery will dislodge, forcing the phone to lose power. Also, regarding his "staying warm" comment - sometimes when I was doing something extensive on the phone, it'd sometimes get so hot, especially the keyboard area, that I could barely hold it, and that concerns me some.
I believe the second one has lasted longer than my first, though. It's not quite as bad now as my first was when I replaced it. I bought my first one May 18, 2013, and my second one September 18, 2013, 4 months later. It's lasted till now, May 7, 2014, 7 and a half months later, but it's about time to replace it.
It looks like it's no longer available, but I was thinking I should try a different one anyway.
One option is this 4600 mAh Mugen battery for about $90, and another is this 5000 mAh MPJ battery for about $35. The MPJ does say it's only 3.7 volts, which according to scaltro could be a concern with longevity per charge.
I definitely would like better battery life. I've noticed that playing FarmVille 2: Country Escape is quite a drain - I'd go from full battery to getting the low battery warning after only something like 2 to 3 hours or so, even with the EZO battery. Earlier, I popped in the factory Samsung battery, topped off its charge, then decided to test battery life playing FV2. I also turned on bluetooth (and sent the sounds to an external speaker), cranked the screen brightness all the way up, and turned off power saver mode, in an attempt to get a "worst-case scenario". I tried turning on WiFi (we have a hotspot here now) but it wouldn't connect to the game server, so I just went through my unlimited+unthrottled 4G.
The results:
2:45am - battery full, unplugged
4:15am - battery 22% (I checked it a few times along the way periodically, but neglected to note the times)
4:23am - battery 14%, had just gotten the battery low popup warning
4:33am - battery 5%, battery critically low popup warning
4:35am - battery 3%, then I went and plugged it in.
So, it lasted only about an hour and 50 minutes from full to 3% remaining. I'm hoping a good battery would be able to go all day and all night and into the next day with similarly-intensive use. (No I wouldn't be playing games the entire time of course!)
Personally, if the $35 MPJ battery would be good enough, and significantly better than the EZO, I'd prefer to go for that one.
I'm wondering, though, if the $90 Mugen is a huge leap up in quality, though (disregarding the NFC for now which I haven't had to use)? It's a bit rich for my blood to drop all at once on a battery for a phone ... BUT, their website tells me they accept returns up to a year later (and I've gone through TWO EZOs in that time), which gives me some hope. If, overall, I'd be spending less by getting one Mugen and it outlasting 4 or 5 EZOs (if they were still available), I'd get that.
On a side note, it'll be a while before I can afford to replace my phone, but when I do, I'd really like a good QWERTY keyboard. I see that very few phones come with them now, though, and the ones that are are near the bottom of the barrel spec-wise. I'm thinking I'll need to get an external compact bluetooth or USB keyboard with my next phone, and expand my options for the phone itself. Ideally I'd like to get one that I can put in a flip case, with the phone in the other side of it, and close it when I'm not using it. (Although, there is the concern with getting the phone out quickly to answer calls, although I maybe only talk 25-50 minutes a month or so.) Any suggestions on what to look for in the case/keyboard department, for example? Chances are it won't be till 2015 at the earliest (and my wallet hopes my Galaxy S Relay 4G will last through 2016 or so unless it dies or something else goes seriously wrong) before I get a new phone, but I like to start my search early. When I do get one, I'm hoping it'll last at least 4-5 years, and maybe stretch it to 7-10 if I'm pressed for cash then.
My high capacity EZO battery eventually bloated and swelled up--after a year. I replaced it with a Mugen battery. Both came with new back covers and make the device about as chunky as a Sidekick II.
My device can run OpenGL applications for about 9 hours straight with the brightness set to 50%. It's about the same for movies. I get decent signal at my house and GPS is disabled when I am not using it. I use Green Power and Greenify to save battery when the device is locked, but that wouldn't affect using the device.
I am on an official Cyanogen nightly, so there's really no battery saving hocus pocus at work here.
Make no mistake, an extended battery will get you about 9 hours of heavy use. I thought I was going to die when I used a stock battery for a week waiting for my new Mugen to replace the old EZO. The device literally couldn't survive one day of use for me.
orange808 said:
My high capacity EZO battery eventually bloated and swelled up--after a year. I replaced it with a Mugen battery. Both came with new back covers and make the device about as chunky as a Sidekick II.
My device can run OpenGL applications for about 9 hours straight with the brightness set to 50%. It's about the same for movies. I get decent signal at my house and GPS is disabled when I am not using it. I use Green Power and Greenify to save battery when the device is locked, but that wouldn't affect using the device.
I am on an official Cyanogen nightly, so there's really no battery saving hocus pocus at work here.
Make no mistake, an extended battery will get you about 9 hours of heavy use. I thought I was going to die when I used a stock battery for a week waiting for my new Mugen to replace the old EZO. The device literally couldn't survive one day of use for me.
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Ahh, so your EZO bloated too, just took a little longer than mine did.
Sounds like the Mugen (if that's the one you describe getting 9 hours of heavy use) has relatively decent life. Would you say it's significantly better per charge in that respect than the EZO was when it was good?
Also how is the Mugen for longevity, as in not swelling, etc? If I buy a Mugen, would I over the long term pay the same or less than if I had kept buying EZOs? Paying $90 in one blow seems a bit heavy on the wallet, but I'd do it if I'm getting that much better quality & longevity.
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Ahh, so your EZO bloated too, just took a little longer than mine did.
Sounds like the Mugen (if that's the one you describe getting 9 hours of heavy use) has relatively decent life. Would you say it's significantly better per charge in that respect than the EZO was when it was good?
Also how is the Mugen for longevity, as in not swelling, etc? If I buy a Mugen, would I over the long term pay the same or less than if I had kept buying EZOs? Paying $90 in one blow seems a bit heavy on the wallet, but I'd do it if I'm getting that much better quality & longevity.
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Honestly, I got about the same results with my EZO battery: just over 9 hours of constant heavy use. Other than the fact it swelled up, it worked great. I guess there was a reason it was so cheap...
I had a Mugen battery for my Sidekick 4G before I bought the Relay and it still works great. (I loaned the SK4G to a friend that broke his phone.) My new Mugen hasn't had any problems, but I've only had it a few months.
Combined with TeamApex's Cyanogen and this awesome QWERTY keyboard, my extended batteries have made this phone the most productive and useful device I have ever owned. I can't say enough great things about ApexTmo, the Relay, and extended batteries.

[Review] Anker 6400 MAH extended battery

I love my Note 4 and the battery life is way better on the stock battery than plenty of other phones but there are times I need to run longer between charges and so I picked up an Anker 6400 MAH extended battery currently $26.99 through their power user program. I had the Anker 7200 MAH with my Galaxy S3 so I was hoping for another great experience. Similar to when I reviewed the 7200 I will use the following apps to accellerate testing to a resonable timeframe and then do a real time test:
1) battery drain
2) Gsam battery monitor
Unfortunately there was no included case so I ended up ordering the hyperion tpu case which really is not much more than a skin case but there are no Seidio or other extended battery cases right now. With the included cover on the phone the back is a little slicker than I like and I would be concerned that I might send it flying pulling it out of my pocket, something to keep in mind. So first, here are some pix
So in checking the battery is around 1.8 oz more and it does make the phone bigger. When I got it, there was around 56% battery so I immediately threw it on the quick charger and in an hour it was full.
I put on the battery drain around 730PM and around 1:43 it was depleted, put it back on the samsung charger and it was back to full before between 3 and 4 am. It almost seemed to charge faster than the OEM battery with no rounding of the charging curve at all.
during the accelerated discharge it got around 6:15 hr at full brightness with everything, wifi, bluetooth ect running as well.
So next I put it to normal use. As I mentioned in OP the case is slippery so I had it sitting on my desk while working rather than in my pocket. It got around 3+ hours a day of use and ended up with 7:15 of screen on time, 20 hrs of wifi and 34 of 4G. The graph shows a break, at that point I got my new 128GB micro sd card and the phone shut off while I switched it and i did not initially realize it. when i turned the phone back on the charge went up. That did not happen then next time I had to reboot but that is why it says 104%. The reason the graph says 3 days is because it is going from the last time a battery was charged full. and since I had a standard battery on for a day or so it added that time in but you can see monday morning to wednesday afternoon. For the period from 5% to 1%, it ran over an hour and I was using the screen continuously at that point. but it doesn't appear to be like the ZL that runs for a day at 1%. What I want this battery for is travelling so I don't have to dig my external battery up or even carry it on every trip, and with 7+ hrs of screen I will be able to get to either coast and still have enough battery for navigating once I get there.
Sir. Where is the Review???
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So next I put it to normal use. As I mentioned in OP the case is slippery so I had it sitting on my desk while working rather than in my pocket. It got around 3+ hours a day of use and ended up with 7:15 of screen on time, 20 hrs of wifi and 34 of 4G. The graph shows a break, at that point I got my new 128GB micro sd card and the phone shut off while I switched it and i did not initially realize it. when i turned the phone back on the charge went up. That did not happen then next time I had to reboot but that is why it says 104%. The reason the graph says 3 days is because it is going from the last time a battery was charged full. and since I had a standard battery on for a day or so it added that time in but you can see monday morning to wednesday afternoon. For the period from 5% to 1%, it ran over an hour and I was using the screen continuously at that point. but it doesn't appear to be like the ZL that runs for a day at 1%. What I want this battery for is travelling so I don't have to dig my external battery up or even carry it on every trip, and with 7+ hrs of screen I will be able to get to either coast and still have enough battery for navigating once I get there.
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very nice, thank you for all the info provided, one question and I know its been discussed before lol, but do u know which is the biggest or better battery without making the phone too bulky? like a bigger battery I can use with the stock cover, thanks in advance, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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very nice, thank you for all the info provided, one question and I know its been discussed before lol, but do u know which is the biggest or better battery without making the phone too bulky? like a bigger battery I can use with the stock cover, thanks in advance, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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I haven't seen any batteries with higher capacity that fit the stock cover.
yoniinfante said:
very nice, thank you for all the info provided, one question and I know its been discussed before lol, but do u know which is the biggest or better battery without making the phone too bulky? like a bigger battery I can use with the stock cover, thanks in advance, cheers:fingers-crossed:
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one other thing, i did notice that the battery states it is compatible with Verizon, AT&T, and T-MO not sure why sprint is not listed but in case you have a sprint phone, i'd check with Anker before buying just in case.
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one other thing, i did notice that the battery states it is compatible with Verizon, AT&T, and T-MO not sure why sprint is not listed but in case you have a sprint phone, i'd check with Anker before buying just in case.
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well thanks but i have the N910C unlocked with Cricket Wireless, cheers:fingers-crossed:

Looking for a replacement battery

My battery life has suddenly got worse. Looking for a solid OEM replacement that will fit under the OEM back cover while providing more MAH would be nice. Any recommendations?
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My battery life has suddenly got worse. Looking for a solid OEM replacement that will fit under the OEM back cover while providing more MAH would be nice. Any recommendations?
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Got my battery from local battery store. (Can't say the name). But OEM equivalent. I would have ordered from online but I couldn't at the moment. (Was planning Amazon)
Didn't care for BIGGER batteries, because I didn't want to add more bulk to the device. Besides proper kernel to recognize and utilise the EXTRA capacity.
So with my "oem equivalent battery", from 6 hours max SOT I've got 10 hours, just like when I first got the device.
Time, use and heat will wear your battery out.
6-10 was during personal specific use.
"Because I could waste battery from 2.5-3.5."
I recommend Amazon/eBay equivalent" Money back guarantee..
Unless you are looking for higher mah.
You can easily get a official OEM battery online, just make sure that you are purchasing it from a reputable online retailer. I'd recommend getting the Note 4 Battery Kit as you will also get a battery charging cradle along with your battery.
mine had the same issue , replaced it with a new original one for around 20$ , now phone is back to normal with around 12~16 hours
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My battery life has suddenly got worse. Looking for a solid OEM replacement that will fit under the OEM back cover while providing more MAH would be nice. Any recommendations?
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I'll recommend getting a new OEM battery or getting Anker (I got multiple Ankers and have excellent results) if you want the same back.
Trust me, new battery (even with same 3220 mAH) will definitely show noticeable difference to your battery life.
For higher capacity, I've heard good things about zerolemon but it uses a different cover.
You will find many batteries in eBay claiming to be of more capacity with the same dimensions (hence fitting the OEM back cover).
Do NOT believe those claims. The battery technology has advanced, but only in terms of cost per Watts. The energy density (Watts per unit volume) is still the same.
You can tweak the circuitry to show more charge than actually there is. It'll result in unreliable numbers (e.g. battery going directly from 20 to 0 etc). And that is what these so-called same volume higher density batteries do.
Stay away from those and get a good one so that you don't regret it later.
I just replaced mine with an Anker brand from Amazon. It has 4 out of 5 stars, and I think most of the bad reviews are cause people have something else wrong with their phones. Overall, the replacement has been very satisfactory, and I think is more reliable than getting "OEM" version off of ebay (which usually is not OEM).
Fair warning though, I do firmly believe that something happened between kit kat and lollipop, which made battery life not as good. I was expecting to go back to battery life from the kit kat day, but alas, did not happen. Back in those days, I could end the day with 80%+ still on my phone, it was amazing. With the anker replacement, I end with about 50%, which is still better than what my original battery was doing (ending at 20%, then quickly jumping from 20% to 1% and shutting off).
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I just replaced mine with an Anker brand from Amazon. It has 4 out of 5 stars, and I think most of the bad reviews are cause people have something else wrong with their phones. Overall, the replacement has been very satisfactory, and I think is more reliable than getting "OEM" version off of ebay (which usually is not OEM).
Fair warning though, I do firmly believe that something happened between kit kat and lollipop, which made battery life not as good. I was expecting to go back to battery life from the kit kat day, but alas, did not happen. Back in those days, I could end the day with 80%+ still on my phone, it was amazing. With the anker replacement, I end with about 50%, which is still better than what my original battery was doing (ending at 20%, then quickly jumping from 20% to 1% and shutting off).
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Wait for Marshmallow & Doze. You'll see a huge improvement.
I recently changed my battery. ( My original battery broke)
I ordered Anker battery from Amazon and I am really happy. battery life is same as original battery if not better.
I did not ordered an "original" Samsung battery because many of them are fakes.
+1 for Anker, equal original ! It's quite impossible to find a samsung original battery, all are fake or rubberbished ! Samsung only sells, but it is not available anymore...

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