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[Q] Nexus 5 and T-Mobile

I'm thinking of picking up a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile. Does anyone know if T-Mobile branded the phone with their logo and if there are T-Mobile based apps on the phone that cannot be erased? Thanks in advance.

raph22 said:
I'm thinking of picking up a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile. Does anyone know if T-Mobile branded the phone with their logo and if there are T-Mobile based apps on the phone that cannot be erased? Thanks in advance.
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I forgot to mention if T-Mobile did these two questions to the Nexus 4.

Doubtful about the logo and apps, though if I had to guess, it'll probably cost $449.99-$499.99 for the 16GB model.

I have a Nexus 4 that I got directly from T-Mobile, there is absolutely no difference from the ones you get from the play store. The packaging is the same, no branding on the device, and no additional apps added. The Nexus 5 should be the same. T-Mobile gets it...

Should be no difference...

and the price should be $599

Not branded. No tmobile apps. Google rules!

caribouxda said:
Not branded. No tmobile apps. Google rules!
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And T-Mobile! Don't forget it's the carriers who usually muck things up.

rmkilc said:
And T-Mobile! Don't forget it's the carriers who usually muck things up.
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They are definitely the best US carrier when it comes to that sort of junk to begin with, but I am still surprised that there is apparently no branding/bloatware at all. That is pretty cool.

raph22 said:
I'm thinking of picking up a Nexus 5 from T-Mobile. Does anyone know if T-Mobile branded the phone with their logo and if there are T-Mobile based apps on the phone that cannot be erased? Thanks in advance.
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Nexus 5 is not a carrier locked device. There is only the unlocked North America version or the unlocked International version, regardless of who sells it.

electricpope said:
They are definitely the best US carrier when it comes to that sort of junk to begin with, but I am still surprised that there is apparently no branding/bloatware at all. That is pretty cool.
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They were the first carrier to push Android, even before it was Android (Danger Sidekick), and had the first Android phone (G1). /ahh....cupcake...those were the daze...

People.... whether you buy the phone from Google, T-Mobile, Sprint, Best Buy, eBay, or the back of some dude's van, IT'S THE SAME PHONE.

maxpower7 said:
People.... whether you buy the phone from Google, T-Mobile, Sprint, Best Buy, eBay, or the back of some dude's van, IT'S THE SAME PHONE.
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I actually wouldn't trust the back of some dude's fan (sarcasm back). But yeah, they're all the same device. Only exception is international which would be outside the U.S. where its D821 and not D820

T-Mobile probably sell the nexus 5 with $50-$100 down and $20-25/mo for 24 months. That's their new no-contract plan.

I would gladly pay more to buy direct from tmo if they would leave plain vanilla and just give some way to install wifi calling. That is the only carrier app that anyone ever gave a crap about.

NCguy said:
I would gladly pay more to buy direct from tmo if they would leave plain vanilla and just give some way to install wifi calling. That is the only carrier app that anyone ever gave a crap about.
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That and insurance coverage. TMO will only insure phones that they carry.

bigbrown said:
That and insurance coverage. TMO will only insure phones that they carry.
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Would that be the case if you bought a N5 under jump?

Not sure, you would need to ask one of the veteran TMO users.

I sure hope most people know that using that T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling actually uses your minutes if you're not on an unlimited calling plan... I've seen tons of people mention it, and I know it can be useful in areas with limited 2G/3G/4G/LTE coverage as a backup but, in spite of it making things easier, it still chunks your calling minutes off, as screwy as that seems.
When I realized that after signing up for the $30/monthly plan with T-Mobile that I've had for nearly 2 years now, I promptly dropped that crappy aspect of things and went to Google Voice + Talkatone for VoIP calls, never had a problem since but in 2014 Google apparently is going to "pull the plug" on third party apps that make use of Google Voice in that respect.
Kinda sucks but, maybe Google's got something planned themselves for VoIP, who the hell knows. It would put a hurtin' on Skype for damned sure...

br0adband said:
I sure hope most people know that using that T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling actually uses your minutes if you're not on an unlimited calling plan... I've seen tons of people mention it, and I know it can be useful in areas with limited 2G/3G/4G/LTE coverage as a backup but, in spite of it making things easier, it still chunks your calling minutes off, as screwy as that seems.
When I realized that after signing up for the $30/monthly plan with T-Mobile that I've had for nearly 2 years now, I promptly dropped that crappy aspect of things and went to Google Voice + Talkatone for VoIP calls, never had a problem since but in 2014 Google apparently is going to "pull the plug" on third party apps that make use of Google Voice in that respect.
Kinda sucks but, maybe Google's got something planned themselves for VoIP, who the hell knows. It would put a hurtin' on Skype for damned sure...
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yup, I'm aware of that and I do have unlimited minutes. Probably good that you mentioned it in case someone doesn't understand how it works.

BestBuy / Sprint N5 comes with a locked SIM slot?

I am solving this as we speak, so I will update, but went to BB, bought the N5 (I have my reasons why I bought there, not from Play store)
The box states, software lock is in place to prevent the use with non-Sprint sim cards. Also Sprint brochure in box, and no pin-tray key in the box. In other words, the phone is packaged for Sprint specifically.
I bought it, I will call up Sprint and T-Mobile (which is who I want to use) and see what's up.
Anyone else has info?

dozyaustin said:
I am solving this as we speak, so I will update, but went to BB, bought the N5 (I have my reasons why I bought there, not from Play store)
The box states, software lock is in place to prevent the use with non-Spring sim cards.
I bought it, I will call up Sprint and T-Mobile and see what's up.
Anyone else has info?
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Wow - can't imagine how they are doing that. Worst case scenario, I'd expect that you should be able to download the stock image from Google and flash it to remove any such lock

jj14 said:
Wow - can't imagine how they are doing that. Worst case scenario, I'd expect that you should be able to download the stock image from Google and flash it to remove any such lock
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it is ridiculous .. called sprint .. first response (formulaic) was a no (need to be on their line for 90 days blah blah blah ..) I have not gotten hold of anyone who knows what Nexus 5 is. Will keep trying

jj14 said:
Wow - can't imagine how they are doing that. Worst case scenario, I'd expect that you should be able to download the stock image from Google and flash it to remove any such lock
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Can you please help me how to do that? This is my first Nexus. Thanks.

I really hope that being simlocked to Sprint doesn't affect Android updates down the line. It shouldn't, because it's technically not a "Sprint variant" of the phone, but you never know.
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dozyaustin said:
it is ridiculous .. called sprint .. first response (formulaic) was a no (need to be on their line for 90 days blah blah blah ..) I have not gotten hold of anyone who knows what Nexus 5 is. Will keep trying
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dozyaustin said:
Can you please help me how to do that? This is my first Nexus. Thanks.
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Wait till you get the phone. For all you know, it may be SIM unlocked like the version from the play store. For other phones like the S4, Sprint does have the 90 day requirement before unlocking it for use with International SIMs.
On the Nexus 5, hopefully, they haven't locked down the US bands (like they do with the S4 and other phones). The play store version is not locked.
The http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701 thread shows you how to flash the stock images - but again, no guarantees that it will do the trick till you actually try it out.
I didn't want to risk this, so I just bought from the play store. I asked the play store person if the phone was guaranteed to get timely updates direct from google, and he gave a "Phones purchased from the play store will get timely updates from google" response. I'm guessing it was a canned response, but I do hope that Sprint doesn't cripple the version sold by Sprint/Bestbuy etc.

That's pretty crappy. I'd return it.
No, Flashing the stock image will not remove the SIM lock. The SIM lock is stored in a different place.

jj14 said:
Wait till you get the phone. For all you know, it may be SIM unlocked like the version from the play store. For other phones like the S4, Sprint does have the 90 day requirement before unlocking it for use with International SIMs.
On the Nexus 5, hopefully, they haven't locked down the US bands (like they do with the S4 and other phones). The play store version is not locked.
The http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701 thread shows you how to flash the stock images - but again, no guarantees that it will do the trick till you actually try it out.
I didn't want to risk this, so I just bought from the play store. I asked the play store person if the phone was guaranteed to get timely updates direct from google, and he gave a "Phones purchased from the play store will get timely updates from google" response. I'm guessing it was a canned response, but I do hope that Sprint doesn't cripple the version sold by Sprint/Bestbuy etc.
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As he stated in the OP, he bought the phone from Best Buy and got the info right from the box.
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Update
Sprint Tech Support confirmed the phone is locked. The problem is that they COULD unlock it, but the phone needs to be activated first. To activate the phone, I have to add it to a plan (a 2 year contract). Without that, they cannot do anything with a "cold" phone. Thus far I got nowhere .. the plan is definitely to return it if they do not budge.

I purchased mine from the Google play store as well.
Why would sprint sell it at a subsidized price of $150 or $50 for new customers without locking it to their network during your 2 year contract.
Also, I bet sprint will only unlock it for international use during the 2 year contract. Just like the iPhone and s4.
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freshlysqueezed said:
I purchased mine from the Google play store as well.
Why would sprint sell it at a subsidized price of $150 or $50 for new customers without locking it to their network during your 2 year contract.
Also, I bet sprint will only unlock it for international use during the 2 year contract. Just like the iPhone and s4.
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Well sure, I understand that with the subsidized phones, but I paid it up front - I paid the full $450 for a Nexus. I wanted an unlocked phone ... it's a bum deal.
I am trying to find out whether a friend of mine could activate it on his account, I get it unlocked, and then we re-activate his iPhone back ... not sure Sprint will go for it.
Ugh .. I just want a Nexus 5 you know? ... and this seemed like a fine way of getting it (My old Captivate died finally for good on Tuesday. and I do not really have $350 just siting around, so the $100 markup was my financing "cost" to get 18 month of payments (I have no interest financing through best buy; my other card has high interest .. it was not a bad financing plan). Ugh .. if only Sprint let me unlock it.

Returned it. will get the tmo version next week. i really wish the wait on play store was shorter. my phone is dead ... waiting is too painful.

dozyaustin said:
Returned it. will get the tmo version next week. i really wish the wait on play store was shorter. my phone is dead ... waiting is too painful.
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Did you actually test it out on another carrier? There are reports that the version is the same as the Play Store (unlocked) on Reddit.

STXInnovation said:
Did you actually test it out on another carrier? There are reports that the version is the same as the Play Store (unlocked) on Reddit.
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I don't think Sprint has any clue what they are talking about. I had a 200 dollar BB giftcard so I went in tonight and purchased a "Sprint" N5 and I don't even have Sprint service Ran by the AT&T store and picked up a micro sim, popped it in and everything is working perfectly. The device is definitely not locked to Sprint. Full LTE data with AT&T without having to configure anything.

capathy21 said:
I don't think Sprint has any clue what they are talking about. I had a 200 dollar BB giftcard so I went in tonight and purchased a "Sprint" N5 and I don't even have Sprint service Ran by the AT&T store and picked up a micro sim, popped it in and everything is working perfectly. The device is definitely not locked to Sprint. Full LTE data with AT&T without having to configure anything.
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That's great to hear. Makes me feel comfortable of using my Amazon credits to purchase one!

STXInnovation said:
That's great to hear. Makes me feel comfortable of using my Amazon credits to purchase one!
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Yea I know I could have used the BB giftcard for something else but it meant I got a N5 for 250 plus tax out of pocket and I got it without having to wait! Love it so far and like I said everything works perfect. Android Central got the official word from Sprint and Google that their version is the exact same as the Play Store version. I trust them much more than some Sprint tech lol.

capathy21 said:
Yea I know I could have used the BB giftcard for something else but it meant I got a N5 for 250 plus tax out of pocket and I got it without having to wait! Love it so far and like I said everything works perfect. Android Central got the official word from Sprint and Google that their version is the exact same as the Play Store version. I trust them much more than some Sprint tech lol.
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Could you provide a link to Android Central? I just want to be completely sure before I order.
Thanks :laugh:

STXInnovation said:
Could you provide a link to Android Central? I just want to be completely sure before I order.
Thanks :laugh:
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It seems like there was another link but this one also breaks it down.
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5-models-whats-different-between-two
I am using one right now with my AT&T sim and everything is working. The device even has an imei number which Sprint phones usually do not have(or at least didn't used to when I had Sprint). They only made one version of the device for North America and it is compatible with Sprint, T-Mobile and AT&T.

That is very strange. The T-Mobile did not work. Makes me sad.
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Weird, I just got 2 sprint N5's and they are both unlocked. Though I did get them from the Sprint store.
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Have to sell my Nexus 5, what phone to get on VZW?

Man this sucks so hard. I was hoping to switch from Verizon to T-mobile but the service at home for me is not going to cut it. Is anyone else in the same boat as me? I'm looking at the Moto X dev edition and the G2, not sure which one will be the best choice after giving up my N5

I like the G2 but I think I would get more out of the Moto X. Would have to play with both side by side to make a final choice though.

sure you can't try AT&T? hate to see you not be able to use such a good phone because of the service. probably be seeing close to the same prices if you go with Verizon.

Use pre paid plan on go phone I belive it's called. Try for 1 month. I think it's $30?? This is for att
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lucky_strike33 said:
Use pre paid plan on go phone I belive it's called. Try for 1 month. I think it's $30?? This is for att
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I would get the Note 3 if you can handle the size, I played around with it a little at Best Buy and fell in love. I'm on Verizon so I never had the opportunity to get the Nexus 5, so I will be getting the Note 3 later this week. I might sell it when Google's Verizon project comes out next year, depending what the specs are and how much I like the Note 3.
Keep in mind they do have a Note 3 developer edition.
And if you decide the Note 3 is too big for you, I'd get the G2.

Moto X all the way.

Yeah the only reason I'll stick with Verizon is because I have the unlimited $30 data. :'(
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Why not use AT&T's AIO service?

hlaalu said:
Yeah the only reason I'll stick with Verizon is because I have the unlimited $30 data. :'(
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That is if they'll let you keep it if you upgrade your phone. Been hearing they've been basically trying to force people off the unlimited plans in such a way.

If by "home" you mean your actual house, why not just keep your baby and get better signal?
Have you looked into cellular boosters?
Buying straight from a store is probably going to eat your pockets out and then some, so I would suggest using eBay.
I run AT&T and have horrid service at home, but luckily AT&T has a "Microcell" cell booster that I paid maybe $99 for, but I get full bars everywhere in my house. Well worth it.
Here's one for T-Mobile I found on eBay ending in 2 days as of this reply.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/T-Mobile-Nextivity-Cel-Fi-indoor-signal-booster-extender-/331062576666
I'd hate to see you have to give up your N5, honestly...

I have a similar problem.
Tried Tmobile, no service
Tried Straight Talk, no service
Verizon isn't compatible
Page Plus won't work wither
I'm gonna try out AT&T but IDK if that will work either
I live in a rural area, and it seems like Verizon would be the best carrier for me.
I looked up a Tmobile booster but the prices are ridiculous and I saw a topic earlier where someone bought one but it wasn't working properly with their Nexus 5. I love my Nexus 5 and don't want to give it up, but I might not have a choice.

As a t mo subscriber for 2+ years its terrible anywhere rural. Had ATT Sprint and Verizon prior. Only Verizon was strong in NH. ATT was second and sprint and T mo are on par with each other. Hence the cheap plans. Thankfully I live not in a rural area anymore in terms of service.
That being said its terrible Verizon opted out not being part of the N5.
Would suggest trying ATT and if that fails if you have the cash get an S4 or HTC One. My HTC One had Sim issue and since I had cracked screen no warranty help so now I have a N5.
Since Verizon doesn't use Sim card...? Maybe HTC one is best for you then use a ROM to get 4.4.
The boom sound and the screen is best in the biz IMHO.
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supafing said:
As a t mo subscriber for 2+ years its terrible anywhere rural. Had ATT Sprint and Verizon prior. Only Verizon was strong in NH. ATT was second and sprint and T mo are on par with each other. Hence the cheap plans. Thankfully I live not in a rural area anymore in terms of service.
That being said its terrible Verizon opted out not being part of the N5.
Would suggest trying ATT and if that fails if you have the cash get an S4 or HTC One. My HTC One had Sim issue and since I had cracked screen no warranty help so now I have a N5.
Since Verizon doesn't use Sim card...? Maybe HTC one is best for you then use a ROM to get 4.4.
The boom sound and the screen is best in the biz IMHO.
Fing
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Hopefully I can get better service with AT&T. I guess I could possibly look into buying the microcell booster.
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tripleboolean said:
If by "home" you mean your actual house, why not just keep your baby and get better signal?
Have you looked into cellular boosters?
Buying straight from a store is probably going to eat your pockets out and then some, so I would suggest using eBay.
I run AT&T and have horrid service at home, but luckily AT&T has a "Microcell" cell booster that I paid maybe $99 for, but I get full bars everywhere in my house. Well worth it.
Here's one for T-Mobile I found on eBay ending in 2 days as of this reply.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/T-Mobile-Nextivity-Cel-Fi-indoor-signal-booster-extender-/331062576666
I'd hate to see you have to give up your N5, honestly...
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Did you get your microcell from the store, or from another seller online?

[Q] Google's N5 or T-Mo's N5?

Hey, is there ANY difference between the Nexus 5 on the Play Store and the Nexus 5 that T-Mo sells in their stores?
I ask because my gf and I are switching to T-Mobile later this month and she is going to get the Nexus. She wants to be sure that if she doesn't like T-Mo then she can take the phone to another carrier, like AT&T. We want to use the ETF money to get a reduced price on the Nexus, but if we can't bring the phone to another carrier then we might have to buy it from the Play Store instead.
Thanks!

they are exactly the same. play store sells 16 or 32gb, tmo sells 16gb.

Thanks a lot I'll probably end up asking the guy at T-Mo just in case, but I trust the word of XDA techies more.
BTW If they are exactly the same, that means the T-Mo version doesn't come with any bloatware?

T-Mobile reps usually know next to nothing. They are the exact same phone
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aBabyPenguin said:
Thanks a lot I'll probably end up asking the guy at T-Mo just in case, but I trust the word of XDA techies more.
BTW If they are exactly the same, that means the T-Mo version doesn't come with any bloatware?
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nope, no bloatware. its the pure nexus experience as its meant to be.

Even tho they are the same the one on the playstore is $100 cheaper

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Even tho they are the same the one on the playstore is $100 cheaper
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Yeah, but Google subsidizes the price because they can afford it. My gf and I are going to see how much money we can get from Verizon's ETF, we might end up saving money thanks to T-Mo.

The only difference between the Nexus at the Google Play store and the T-Mobile store is the one at the T-Mobile store is sold at a substantial markup, while Google Play sells it basically at cost.

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The only difference between the Nexus at the Google Play store and the T-Mobile store is the one at the T-Mobile store is sold at a substantial markup, while Google Play sells it basically at cost.
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I wouldn't call $46 a substantial markup. For some, $46 is worth it for nothing down and a two year payment plan.

aBabyPenguin said:
Hey, is there ANY difference between the Nexus 5 on the Play Store and the Nexus 5 that T-Mo sells in their stores?
I ask because my gf and I are switching to T-Mobile later this month and she is going to get the Nexus. She wants to be sure that if she doesn't like T-Mo then she can take the phone to another carrier, like AT&T. We want to use the ETF money to get a reduced price on the Nexus, but if we can't bring the phone to another carrier then we might have to buy it from the Play Store instead.
Thanks!
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AFAIK, if you're going to switch to TMO using their new plans to reimburse ETFs, you have to turn in your old phone and buy a new phone from them directly. I don't think you can BYOD with a Play Store phone? So, assuming the N5s from TMO/Play are using the same bands, you should be able to take directly to AT&T with only a SIM switch. And IF you're ok with only 16GBs of storage. As a few others have said, TMO only sells the 16GB model. Seems stupid to me, but whatever.

aBabyPenguin said:
Yeah, but Google subsidizes the price because they can afford it. My gf and I are going to see how much money we can get from Verizon's ETF, we might end up saving money thanks to T-Mo.
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If you have grandfathered Verizon unlimited data, selling it on Ebay through an "Assumption of Liability" is the way to go. I just made $350 on my wife and my lines instead of paying $250+ in ETF. It was really easy to do. There's a thread on rootzwiki on how to do it. Search on "Sell Verizon Contract and Keep your Number"

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AFAIK, if you're going to switch to TMO using their new plans to reimburse ETFs, you have to turn in your old phone and buy a new phone from them directly. I don't think you can BYOD with a Play Store phone? So, assuming the N5s from TMO/Play are using the same bands, you should be able to take directly to AT&T with only a SIM switch. And IF you're ok with only 16GBs of storage. As a few others have said, TMO only sells the 16GB model. Seems stupid to me, but whatever.
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My gf has an old crappy Android that she definitely won't miss over the N5, We aren't worried about trading in a device, we aren't losing anything. And yes, she doesn't care about storage. 16GB will be more than enough for her.
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If you have grandfathered Verizon unlimited data, selling it on Ebay through an "Assumption of Liability" is the way to go. I just made $350 on my wife and my lines instead of paying $250+ in ETF. It was really easy to do. There's a thread on rootzwiki on how to do it. Search on "Sell Verizon Contract and Keep your Number"
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Oh yeah! I totally forgot about that. My gf has tiered data but I still have unlimited. I'll definitely look into that, thanks for the heads-up.

aBabyPenguin said:
Thanks a lot I'll probably end up asking the guy at T-Mo just in case, but I trust the word of XDA techies more.
BTW If they are exactly the same, that means the T-Mo version doesn't come with any bloatware?
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Yeah most don't know **** that's why I sell more than most reps
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[Q] Who is upgrading to the S7 or S7 Edge?

Today was the big unveil of the 2 new Galaxy S7 devices - 5.1" S7 and 5.5" S7 Edge.
Visually, there isn't much change. But from the inside, quite a bit.
Will you be upgrading to one of the new Galaxy S7 devices?
I, for one, will be going to Best Buy on Tuesday to place my preorder.
I'm gonna go with the S7 Edge for its many improvements over my S6E:
-Better SD820 SOC
-4GB of RAM
-Bigger screen but still one-handeable (for me) with its 72 mm width & curved back
-Better camera with faster autofocus & low light performance
-Fast wireless charging
-3600 mah (!) battery
-microSD support
-IP68 water resistance
-Change of scenery with the silver titanium color
I'm eligible to renew a new 2-yr contract after paying a $250 early upgrade fee, which I'll recoup after selling my S6E.
Anyone else doing the upgrade?
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I'll be upgrading after 4/1 when I am eligible to. Haven't decided which one yet, but probably the edge

LG or Nexus. Only way to get timely updates .

What I would like t o know with sprint are we going to be able to talk on the phone and have internet??
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I may, just to have my external SD card back

mobgod said:
What I would like t o know with sprint are we going to be able to talk on the phone and have internet??
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Not for another year or two, unfortunately.
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Soooperstar said:
I may, just to have my external SD card back
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Yes, very looking to microSD again. I have a Samsung class 10 128GB from Black Friday I'm just waiting to pop in.
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optimummind said:
Not for another year or two, unfortunately.
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Such bs I want my s3 back
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S7E may be sexy, but don't expect any Dev support. Smartphone-wise, I've been playing in these forums with the 6600, 6700, vogue, mogal, touch pro, touch pro 2, diamond, evo 4g, evo 3d, m7, S3, note2, m8, g3, s5, and s6 edge. All Sprint variants. It used to be normal to see 10-15 new ROMs each day on those phones. Now that smartphones are even more common than over a decade ago, I would expect activity to have blossomed significantly. Instead, developer interest and activity had been extraordinarily weak.
You can thank Samsung for most of that, and their wonderful Knox system, but also it seems that the Sprint forums don't have the stream they used to. Very disheartening.
So if you're eyeballing a new Samsung phone, you better like it plenty without root and without any customizations.

Only chance of getting custom roms and stuff is getting the full unlocked variant.

This thread alone is a good indicator of how much dev support/community interest there will be for the Sprint variant S7. G3 -> G4, M7 -> M8 threads would have had 100+ posts by now.
Luckily these phones are PRETTY GOOD stock-- I feel much better than some of those older phones, but not as good as they became after root. My biggest complaint is that I want AirAudio to work, and that requires root. Very frustrating. I still find it nuts that we don't get true administrative rights to our own phones. Could you imagine if you bought a laptop, and you weren't allowed to log in as Administrator or root? That wouldn't fly for a second!

ScrapMaker said:
This thread alone is a good indicator of how much dev support/community interest there will be for the Sprint variant S7. G3 -> G4, M7 -> M8 threads would have had 100+ posts by now.
Luckily these phones are PRETTY GOOD stock-- I feel much better than some of those older phones, but not as good as they became after root. My biggest complaint is that I want AirAudio to work, and that requires root. Very frustrating. I still find it nuts that we don't get true administrative rights to our own phones. Could you imagine if you bought a laptop, and you weren't allowed to log in as Administrator or root? That wouldn't fly for a second!
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I joined Sprint when I got my Galaxy S2 and I did notice a huge activity decline starting from the S5 series. The international unlocked variants continue to have a lot of activity still.
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I'll be getting the S7 Edge, but switching to Verizon thanks to Sprints lack of customer service. They put me on the wrong plan and said now I can't upgrade yearly like they promised and refuse to do anything about it. After over 9 years of service with Sprint, it's time to move on.

dazednconfused said:
I'll be getting the S7 Edge, but switching to Verizon thanks to Sprints lack of customer service. They put me on the wrong plan and said now I can't upgrade yearly like they promised and refuse to do anything about it. After over 9 years of service with Sprint, it's time to move on.
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The only reason I'm on Sprint is the unlimited data. As I understand it, I'll technically lose that when I sign a new lease, or whatever. I believe they are trying to get rid of grandfathered unlimited data people. Until then, I'll probably stick with 'em.

Nexus 6p will be my weapon of choice next time, switching to project fi as well, need the front facing speakers that I had with the m8 downside is lack of sd card but will get larger storage to make up for it
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dazednconfused said:
I'll be getting the S7 Edge, but switching to Verizon thanks to Sprints lack of customer service. They put me on the wrong plan and said now I can't upgrade yearly like they promised and refuse to do anything about it. After over 9 years of service with Sprint, it's time to move on.
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Man I hate to hear you're leaving us

dazednconfused said:
I'll be getting the S7 Edge, but switching to Verizon thanks to Sprints lack of customer service. They put me on the wrong plan and said now I can't upgrade yearly like they promised and refuse to do anything about it. After over 9 years of service with Sprint, it's time to move on.
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After 10 yrs of Loyal Sprint service they cancelled my service for to much "unlimited data" usage (I was at a 2 yr low when they did)!
Too much "unlimited data"? Yep, I later found out that they monitor anything over 20gb!
Basically they screwed me and I'll take any chance to bash their weak network!
Oh well, the network is crap and data speeds can't even compete with Tmo!
You'll be happy with the upgrade of phone and carrier!
How have you been btw?
Just dropped my, most likely final LP rom and waiting for Tmo to hit us with MM.
Good luck bro. Take care

Soooperstar said:
Man I hate to hear you're leaving us
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Thanks man, but they have left me no choice. They admit that the screwed up but say they can't fix it. They did offer me a $50 credit, which I told them where they can stick it. I'll miss you guys and gals as well, thanks for all the support, it was a lot of fun.
stangdriver44 said:
You'll be happy with the upgrade of phone and carrier!
How have you been btw?
Just dropped my, most likely final LP rom and waiting for Tmo to hit us with MM.
Good luck bro. Take care
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Thanks man and I've been doing pretty good. Life has caught up with me and don't have much time to play with the phone anymore. Good luck to you as well and take care buddy.

liquid cooled phone? S7? you damn right i got that **** preordered already

stangdriver44 said:
After 10 yrs of Loyal Sprint service they cancelled my service for to much "unlimited data" usage (I was at a 2 yr low when they did)!
Too much "unlimited data"? Yep, I later found out that they monitor anything over 20gb!
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Seems like you were abusing the network if you were consistently going over 20gb each month. Sounds like you were tethering. Anyhow, when you compare to the other carriers, Sprint still has the best data rates, and most lenient 'unlimited' plans.