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I am after a Galaxy Tab but I keep switching between wanting a 10 inch and wanting a 7 inch. The thing is, I definitely prefer the screen size of the 10 inch. I saw someone on the train this morning with an iPad 2 reading a PDF on it and I could immediately see the advantage of the screen size for this. I have several technical PDFs which will be the first thing that I put on it.
However, I need to commute with this device and the 7 inch tablets seem far better due to their size and weight. They just seem more practical and I even question whether a 10 inch would fit in my bag (it should do but it'll be a tight squeeze). I've noticed that Adobe Reader has a text flow feature which seems to work reasonably well (but not perfectly) which helps with these large PDFs.
I suppose I am the only one that can really answer which one is best for me but I wondered if anyone went through a similar dilemma and what decision they made? Was it the right decision?
In a way, the 8.9 is probably the perfect compromise but they are way too expensive here in the UK. To qualify that statement, I can only afford a 10.1 by buying a manufacturer refurbished unit and there don't seem to be any 8.9 refurbs on the market.
you posted in a tab 7+ forum which is why you would mostly get biased anwers. anyways, i hate 10 inch tablets 'cause they're too big. but one time, i also considered buying the GTab 10.1. however, by reading the 10.1 forum, I've read a lot of negative feedbacks on how much it lagged, etc. Try visiting the General section of the GTab 10.1.
Also take a sneak peek at the GSMArena comparison here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4208&idPhone2=3894
Specifically look for the processor power. GTab+ has a Dual Core Exynos 1.2GHz while the GTab 10.1 only has a Dual Core Tegra 1GHz. You can also look around the web why Exynos is better and faster than Tegra 2. I think the only reason why Tegra is better is because of the Tegra Games which BTW can also be played on Exynos chipsets by using the Chainfire 3d app (FREE).
Now if size and weight matters, it would always boil down to your preferences. If you like heavy, expensive, large screen, not-so-thin tablets, buy the GTab 10.1. But if you adore the little, light, not-so-expensive, thin tablets, buy the GTab+.
You would be surprised how much this little thing can do for you.
Good luck!
10.1 isn't exactly expensive - since it's been around longer, you can find refurbs for less than the Tab Plus.
It's really a matter of preference - the Plus has a better CPU, the 10.1 has a better screen (higher resolution, larger size), although the "larger size" aspect of the 10.1 isn't always a positive.
I've never found my 10.1 laggy
Gunnzie said:
I am after a Galaxy Tab but I keep switching between wanting a 10 inch and wanting a 7 inch
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Honestly who didn't giggle and say in their head "THATS what she said..."
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I only have 8 days to decide which one I want.
I always have been atracted to 10.1 tablets the only thing it makes me wonder about getting the 8.0 is that is newer + a little bit more faster.
Can you all tell me how is the tablet? never used it.. Is it good? fast? smooth? Can be flashed to be much better?
At first I was a little bit in between ipad or samsung but I decided samsung, now I'm between theses 2
The speed difference between the Not 8 and Note 10.1 is negligible, you'll appreciate the extra real estate space afforded by the 10.1 for S Pen apps.
The spen on the Note 10.1 is what sets it apart from all other tablets. If you have no interest in using a stylus, then any of the other Galaxy Tabs will give you the same experience.
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The spen on the Note 10.1 is what sets it apart from all other tablets. If you have no interest in using a stylus, then any of the other Galaxy Tabs will give you the same experience.
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You do realize 8.0 has the S-Pen, too, right?
Sorry, I for some reason I was thinking of the Galaxy Tab.
So to the original question, I would agree with the other post about the speed being negligible. It really depends on what you are using the tablet for. I use my 10.1 for sketching, and the 10" is a good size for that.
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yesterday i got my 10.1 and i did see one more ie the 8 if im right this one is 8 inch then id say its is better to have a bigger screen i was using a 7inch tab and really wanted a bigger one i wasn't all that impressed with the 8 inch one so i feel did the right thing in getting the 10.1 this is just FYI on my decision to buy the 10.1
i also did see other brand in the same size but this one blew me away man yes it was way 2 costly for me but i just fel in love with it and got it and in my country(india) their was a CC offer with 9 months interest free payment yes no processing fee and no interest so i just piked it up :laugh::laugh:
and im loving it man:good::laugh::laugh:
I have to think for overall use, the Note 10.1 will trump the 8.0.
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Sorry, I for some reason I was thinking of the Galaxy Tab.
So to the original question, I would agree with the other post about the speed being negligible. It really depends on what you are using the tablet for. I use my 10.1 for sketching, and the 10" is a good size for that.
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I definetely made my mind.
I'm getting the 10.1 Galaxy note mostly 'cause the processor is almost the same as the 8 (quadcore 1,4 vs 1,6) and my main concerned: the size. I'm really excited to watch series on the tablet and with the speakers will be a very cool experience
it sad to say but its the truth, when it comes to the Tab 3 7" T211 theres NO Development out, I have held off for awhile but just couldn't take the lags on the gaming aspect of it. so I sold it and purchased the Galaxy tab 3 8" T311 Version, and I'm not looking back, this device (T311) is awesome, I dont understand why the Tab 3 7" T211 doesn't come with 4.2.2 out the box like the T311, the T311 is much smoother and a lot less laggy so the gaming is great. Plus theres ALOT of development which is very important to me. I just figured to put my 2 cents out there. The best of luck to all the ppl still stuck with the T211, I got out of that situation QUICKLY... :cyclops:
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it sad to say but its the truth, when it comes to the Tab 3 7" T211 theres NO Development out, I have held off for awhile but just couldn't take the lags on the gaming aspect of it. so I sold it and purchased the Galaxy tab 3 8" T311 Version, and I'm not looking back, this device (T311) is awesome, I dont understand why the Tab 3 7" T211 doesn't come with 4.2.2 out the box like the T311, the T311 is much smoother and a lot less laggy so the gaming is great. Plus theres ALOT of development which is very important to me. I just figured to put my 2 cents out there. The best of luck to all the ppl still stuck with the T211, I got out of that situation QUICKLY... :cyclops:
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I might do the same.
Yes you SHOULD
The reason i say this is simple. Most of these Devs do there Research Before they go out and buy there devices (something I should have Done), I know they seen the specs and viewed the videos out on the 7" version, IT SUCKSSSS...!!! I wish i would have seen the reviews before purchasing it my self, however we live and we learn, there isn't any development because the majority of devs stood clear of this particular device, because it SUCKSSSS. I was lucky to not have lost out on my t211, i TWEAKED it a bit and installed unlimited tethering and hooked it up to get Paid Apps and Movies for free, this is why i got a bit more than what i paid for it , thats when i went out and bought the T311, I highly recommend it...!!! The best of luck to you Buddy...
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I might do the same.
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The reason i say this is simple. Most of these Devs do there Research Before they go out and buy there devices (something I should have Done), I know they seen the specs and viewed the videos out on the 7" version, IT SUCKSSSS...!!! I wish i would have seen the reviews before purchasing it my self, however we live and we learn, there isn't any development because the majority of devs stood clear of this particular device, because it SUCKSSSS. I was lucky to not have lost out on my t211, i TWEAKED it a bit and installed unlimited tethering and hooked it up to get Paid Apps and Movies for free, this is why i got a bit more than what i paid for it , thats when i went out and bought the T311, I highly recommend it...!!! The best of luck to you Buddy...
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The entire Tab 3 line just isn't worth it. I am actually flabbergasted at those who defend their purchases, awe stricken-ed even. Unfortunately, I also made the mistake of grabbing one do to a horrible recommendation from a sales rep at Best Buy, I bought the 10.1 version. It turned out to be the biggest hunk of junk I have ever had the misfortune of owning, antiquated resolution, laggy as all hell, only 300MB of free memory for apps upon a clean reboot(that is just disgusting and frankly uber cheap of Samsung to have not added an additional 1GB of ram for a 300 dollar tablet ) , scratches if you breath on it, yeah I returned it and bought a Nexus 10, freaking awesome tablet, 10x faster across the board and it cheaper.
I know the 7 inch model costs only 150 bucks but for 50 to 80 dollars more you can get a real tablet that is sooooo much faster like; Kindle 7 HDX (there is a fantastic AOSP ROM available), it has a Qualcomm 800 CPU, 2GB RAM, HDMI out and 1920 x 1200 resolution, Nexus 7 also with a Qualcommo CPU, 2GB of RAM awesome Android experience since it doesn't contain any of that Touchwiz bloatware and 1080P resolution, EVGA Note 7, Tegra 4 CPU, active digitizer, HDMI out and also has pure android (this tablet is perfect for those who love to game, just connect a Bluetooth game-pad to it and then to your TV via the HDMI, friggen insanely fast console machine), HP Slate 7 Extreme, also a Tegra 4 CPU, fantastic build quality and the best part, it only costs 180 dollars.
So if you buy the Samsung Tab 3 7 instead of any of the better tablets I listed above there is something really wrong with you. Even if money is an issue you can't tell me you can't find at least an additional 30 dollars for the HP.
I'm sorry for the troll tone of my post but I am just so tired of Samsung trying to shove these crappy sub-par tablets down our throats, especially at the prices their asking, what's even more insulting is that the Tab series hasn't seen much improvement since their introduction, inexcusable.
So Gaming on this tab is just a HELL !
Right ?
OMG !
I was going to sell one of my beast (the Note 8.0) for money reasons (I need some quick cashes right now ) and buy the SM-T210
What do you suggest for me ?
On this thread a guy said Gaming on Tab 3 7.0 was NOT so harmful. He was able to play Asphalt 8 on HIGH Graphics, can you confirm please (OP) ?
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In fact my Tab 2 8" actually ran better than my Tab 3 10.1, inexcusable.
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Your Tab 3 8" can NOT run better than Tab 3 10.1 since your Tab 3 8.0 have a Exynos Dual CPU w/ Mali-400MP4 (4 Cores GPU) 1,5GB RAM
While Tab 3 10.1 have an Intel x86 CPU which runs 30% faster than the ARM based Exynos Dual !
Intel Z2560 is an i586 or x86 while Exynos Dual is an ARM based CPU.
Mali-400PM4 should perform better than PowerVR SGX544MP2 (w/ 2 Cores and found on Tab 3 10.1). Btw, the performance of the Mali-400 GPU w/ 4Cores is NOT as much as better than the PowerVR SGX544 w/ only 2 Cores.
The Tab 3 10.1 Scores approximately 30,000 Antutu score ! (even better than the S4 which scores approximatelty 28,000 to 29,000)
While the Tab 3 8.0 scores approximately 10,000 points in Antutu test.
By the way, Antutu and Quadrant doesn't prove the Real performance about the device PERFORMANCE
If the Tab 3 10.1 had at least 1,5GB RAM it would the FASTEST device released yet !
The crucial thing is the 32 Bits arch CPU of Tab 3 10.1 vs an ARM arch CPU on the Tab 3 8.0
With this CPU, the Tab 3 10.1 perform even better than Note 8.0 and Note 10.1
You can hate it, You can say everything you want, Tab 3 10.1 perform slightly better than most of devices (only Note 3 and Tegra 4/Tegra K1 devices can pass).
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So Gaming on this tab is just a HELL !
Right ?
OMG !
I was going to sell one of my beast (the Note 8.0) for money reasons (I need some quick cashes right now ) and buy the SM-T210
What do you suggest for me ?
On this thread a guy said Gaming on Tab 3 7.0 was NOT so harmful. He was able to play Asphalt 8 on HIGH Graphics, can you confirm please (OP) ?
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Skip the 7" Tab 3, you will only punish yourself. Buy the HP 7 Extreme, it's a Tegra 4, pretty much the fastest CPU & GPU combo you can get right now for gaming and it only costs 30 dollars more than the Tab 3, plus your not stuck with that horrid resolution. The build quality is also much, much better. The Tab 3 7" is just a cheap piece of crap. don't even consider it, in fact, run, run away as fast as you can.
No development for this device !
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Skip the 7" Tab 3, you will only punish yourself. Buy the HP 7 Extreme, it's a Tegra 4, pretty much the fastest CPU & GPU combo you can get right now for gaming and it only costs 30 dollars more than the Tab 3, plus your not stuck with that horrid resolution. The build quality is also much, much better. The Tab 3 7" is just a cheap piece of crap. don't even consider it, in fact, run, run away as fast as you can.
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Have you seen any forum for this device here on XDA ?
Not sure if it does exist because I found NONE
So that's firstly very important !
A device w/o Custom ROM can NOT spend 2 days w/ me since I randomnly flash ROMS
Rooting this device is itself a PAIN in the ASS !
So this is NOT the perfect one for me.
Maybe the Tab 3 8.0 but I am NOT going to buy an unknown device (at least unknown for XDA Community).
Thx anyway for your suggest !
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So Gaming on this tab is just a HELL !
Right ?
OMG !
I was going to sell one of my beast (the Note 8.0) for money reasons (I need some quick cashes right now ) and buy the SM-T210
What do you suggest for me ?
On this thread a guy said Gaming on Tab 3 7.0 was NOT so harmful. He was able to play Asphalt 8 on HIGH Graphics, can you confirm please (OP) ?
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Your Tab 3 8" can NOT run better than Tab 3 10.1 since your Tab 3 8.0 have a Exynos Dual CPU w/ Mali-400MP4 (4 Cores GPU) 1,5GB RAM
While Tab 3 10.1 have an Intel x86 CPU which runs 30% faster than the ARM based Exynos Dual !
Intel Z2560 is an i586 or x86 while Exynos Dual is an ARM based CPU.
Mali-400PM4 should perform better than PowerVR SGX544MP2 (w/ 2 Cores and found on Tab 3 10.1). Btw, the performance of the Mali-400 GPU w/ 4Cores is NOT as much as better than the PowerVR SGX544 w/ only 2 Cores.
The Tab 3 10.1 Scores approximately 30,000 Antutu score ! (even better than the S4 which scores approximatelty 28,000 to 29,000)
While the Tab 3 8.0 scores approximately 10,000 points in Antutu test.
By the way, Antutu and Quadrant doesn't prove the Real performance about the device PERFORMANCE
If the Tab 3 10.1 had at least 1,5GB RAM it would the FASTEST device released yet !
The crucial thing is the 32 Bits arch CPU of Tab 3 10.1 vs an ARM arch CPU on the Tab 3 8.0
With this CPU, the Tab 3 10.1 perform even better than Note 8.0 and Note 10.1
You can hate it, You can say everything you want, Tab 3 10.1 perform slightly better than most of devices (only Note 3 and Tegra 4/Tegra K1 devices can pass).
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On paper and in benchmark testing yes, absolutely, the 10.1 smokes my older 8, but in the real world, not so much, the 10.1 is just too laggy. With CM10 installed on my Tab 2 8" it's a very smooth experience, I have a lot more memory available when surfing and for apps. The Tab 3 10.1 literally has only 180MB of memory available once I have Gmail and Chrome up, Chrome constantly has to refresh the tabs that are opened. It's not a good tablet or the Touchwiz build that's installed is just not optimized, whatever the case may be my older 8" is a much more enjoyable experience. Especially with apps like Pinterest, Flipboard, Chrome, even Photoshop Touch runs better, actually PS Touch is unusable on the 10.1. Look, I 'm not a prick, I actually like Samsung tablets when their good. My Nexus 10 is just an incredible tablet, it's so much better than the Tab 3 10.1 that I have to wonder what the hell Samsung was even thinking, I mean it's like night and day. Fantastic resolution (much, much better than the Tab 3 10.1), it feels faster, actually a lot faster across the board, better build quality, gaming is just wonderful on it (for instance I get 9 FPS when playing MC4 on the Tab 3, the Nexus, 30+ and it's 2 times the resolution so what's going on), HDMI out, no bloatware and it was 30 dollars cheaper. So please tell me what the hell was Samsung trying to pull, I'm sorry but the Tab 3 10.1 is a piece of garbage and until Samsung fixes the firmware and I have to stand by that statement.
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Nonta72 said:
Have you seen any forum for this device here on XDA ?
Not sure if it does exist because I found NONE
So that's firstly very important !
A device w/o Custom ROM can NOT spend 2 days w/ me since I randomnly flash ROMS
Rooting this device is itself a PAIN in the ASS !
So this is NOT the perfect one for me.
Maybe the Tab 3 8.0 but I am NOT going to buy an unknown device (at least unknown for XDA Community).
Thx anyway for your suggest !
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It's a brand new device, barely a couple of weeks old so it will be a month before we will see any XDA forums on it. HP keeps it's ROMS pretty close to stock, plus with that monster CPU & GPU there really isn't much in the way of customization that will make it any faster. If customization is your thing than you can't get any better than the Nexus 7. Have you looked at the Kindle HDX, Qualcomm 800, 2GB RAM, HDMI out, that thing trounces all of the Tab 3 models, it's a monster plus it has a really nice AOSP ROM available. I just bought one as a reader but it was so fast that I now also use it as a gaming console. Yes gaming console, since it has a built in HDMI out with a true 1080p out desktop I paired a PlayStation 3 game-pad and I now have the perfect mobile gaming system. All for 200 bucks, Tab 3, yeah right, you would have to be out of your mind to buy that instead of a Kindle HDX, there is zero comparison. I also get between 12 - 14 hours of battery with it when just reading or surfing, unheard of for a 7" tablet. Why is Samsung Tab 3 even in your list of possibilities, especially when there are so many more better tablets out there, there just not good tablets. Every reviewer has said the same thing about every model, lag, antiquated, expensive for what you get, etc. I'm not the only one here that is advising against them. The top two 7" tablets on the market today is the Nexus 7 and Kindle HDX, great tablets as well as fantastic value, especially when compared to the Tab3. Their obsolete the second you take it out of the box, why would you want to do that to your self, to save a few dollars, not worth the aggravation in my book, the development is even poor for them. Enough talk, I have said my peace on the matter, it's your money, I'm just trying to help. if you you feel that 2012 technology for 2014 prices is your bag, than go for it.
What do you mean by Tab 2 8" ?
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On paper and in benchmark testing yes, absolutely, the 10.1 smokes my older 8, but in the real world, not so much, the 10.1 is just too laggy. With CM10 installed on my Tab 2 8" it's a very smooth experience, I have a lot more memory available when surfing and for apps. The Tab 3 10.1 literally has only 180MB of memory available once I have Gmail and Chrome up, Chrome constantly has to refresh the tabs that are opened. It's not a good tablet or the Touchwiz build that's installed is just not optimized, whatever the case may be my older 8" is a much more enjoyable experience. Especially with apps like Pinterest, Flipboard, Chrome, even Photoshop Touch runs better, actually PS Touch is unusable on the 10.1. Look, I 'm not a prick, I actually like Samsung tablets when their good. My Nexus 10 is just an incredible tablet, it's so much better than the Tab 3 10.1 that I have to wonder what the hell Samsung was even thinking, I mean it's like night and day. Fantastic resolution (much, much better than the Tab 3 10.1), it feels faster, actually a lot faster across the board, better build quality, gaming is just wonderful on it (for instance I get 9 FPS when playing MC4 on the Tab 3, the Nexus, 30+ and it's 2 times the resolution so what's going on), HDMI out, no bloatware and it was 30 dollars cheaper. So please tell me what the hell was Samsung trying to pull, I'm sorry but the Tab 3 10.1 is a piece of garbage and until Samsung fixes the firmware and I have to stand by that statement.
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You keep saying Tab 2 8" ! While this device desn't exist at all ! Maybe Note 8.0 or Tab 3 8.0
For info, the Nexus 10 have an Exynos Dual (Exynos 5250) which perform 50% better than Excynos Dual 4212 !
Mali-604 GPU is just a Beast (I admit it) and is 50% better than Mali-400MP4 and PowerVR SGX544 w/ 3 Cores.
Don't forget, the Nexus 10 use a Google stock OS (like CM) while Tab 3 10.1 use a Samsung TouchWizz ROM. The full system package of Nexus 10 should NOT be bigger than 400MB while Samsung firmwares always exeed 500MB.
Nexus 10 have 2GB while Tab 3 10.1 have only 1 !
Mali-T604 is the Fastest GPU after Adreno 330, Mali-T628, nVidia ULP GeForce Tegra 4 and Tegra K1.
So don't Compare this to a PowerVR SGX544 !
Cortex-A15 is a HIGH-END feature after Krait.
All these just prove, that the Nexus should perform slightly better than Tab 3 10.1 in Gaming.
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You keep saying Tab 2 8" ! While this device desn't exist at all ! Maybe Note 8.0 or Tab 3 8.0
For info, the Nexus 10 have an Exynos Dual (Exynos 5250) which perform 50% better than Excynos Dual 4212 !
Mali-604 GPU is just a Beast (I admit it) and is 50% better than Mali-400MP4 and PowerVR SGX544 w/ 3 Cores.
Don't forget, the Nexus 10 use a Google stock OS (like CM) while Tab 3 10.1 use a Samsung TouchWizz ROM. The full system package of Nexus 10 should NOT be bigger than 400MB while Samsung firmwares always exeed 500MB.
Nexus 10 have 2GB while Tab 3 10.1 have only 1 !
Mali-T604 is the Fastest GPU after Adreno 330, Mali-T628, nVidia ULP GeForce Tegra 4 and Tegra K1.
So don't Compare this to a PowerVR SGX544 !
Cortex-A15 is a HIGH-END feature after Krait.
All these just prove, that the Nexus should perform slightly better than Tab 3 10.1 in Gaming.
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You right, I always call it 8", it's actually 7.7" http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/mobile/7.7/spec.html. I know the specs of the two 10.1 tablets, why am I spending more for the Tab 3 10.1 then the Nexus 10, especially when one is clearly much, much better than the other. I just think that Samsung is cheating it's customers with Tab 3 series and I can't recommend it to anyone, especially when there are clearly better models out there. Oh and because of the poor memory issue with the Tab 3 the Nexus wipes the floor with it when it comes to gaming, I can't play even play games like Most Wanted without wanting to throw the thing across the room due to frustration. It's very laggy, jerky, horrible, maybe it will be much better after the 4.4.2 update, if that ever comes, another issue that Samsung is plagued with, llllooooooonnnnnngggg update periods.I think I will only buy Nexus Android devices for now on, best value, always get the newest updates quickly and they're fast.
The T311 is Better than the T211
I purchased these devices instead of the others you mentioned cause the T211 & T311 are NOT ONLY tablets but Phones as well, so its my back up Phone if Im going on Vaction with my Family or on a road trip, I have the Note 3, now thats a Device...!!! And Samsung made it. lol. However Im not saying that Nexus 7 line isnt a Great gaming Device cause i have it as well (2013 & its awesome), gave it to my 9yr old to play his Minecraft. Im just STATING the FACT, the T311 has no lag like the T211. That a fact, and it comes with 4.2.2 out the Box, instead of 4.1.2.. Ending this by saying that Im VERY happy with my T311...
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The entire Tab 3 line just isn't worth it. I am actually flabbergasted at those who defend their purchases, awe stricken-ed even. Unfortunately, I also made the mistake of grabbing one do to a horrible recommendation from a sales rep at Best Buy, I bought the 10.1 version. It turned out to be the biggest hunk of junk I have ever had the misfortune of owning, antiquated resolution, laggy as all hell, only 300MB of free memory for apps upon a clean reboot(that is just disgusting and frankly uber cheap of Samsung to have not added an additional 1GB of ram for a 300 dollar tablet ) , scratches if you breath on it, yeah I returned it and bought a Nexus 10, freaking awesome tablet, 10x faster across the board and it cheaper.
I know the 7 inch model costs only 150 bucks but for 50 to 80 dollars more you can get a real tablet that is sooooo much faster like; Kindle 7 HDX (there is a fantastic AOSP ROM available), it has a Qualcomm 800 CPU, 2GB RAM, HDMI out and 1920 x 1200 resolution, Nexus 7 also with a Qualcommo CPU, 2GB of RAM awesome Android experience since it doesn't contain any of that Touchwiz bloatware and 1080P resolution, EVGA Note 7, Tegra 4 CPU, active digitizer, HDMI out and also has pure android (this tablet is perfect for those who love to game, just connect a Bluetooth game-pad to it and then to your TV via the HDMI, friggen insanely fast console machine), HP Slate 7 Extreme, also a Tegra 4 CPU, fantastic build quality and the best part, it only costs 180 dollars.
So if you buy the Samsung Tab 3 7 instead of any of the better tablets I listed above there is something really wrong with you. Even if money is an issue you can't tell me you can't find at least an additional 30 dollars for the HP.
I'm sorry for the troll tone of my post but I am just so tired of Samsung trying to shove these crappy sub-par tablets down our throats, especially at the prices their asking, what's even more insulting is that the Tab series hasn't seen much improvement since their introduction, inexcusable.
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You clearly hate Tab 3 Series (7" to 10") !!!
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You right, I always call it 8", it's actually 7.7" http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/mobile/7.7/spec.html. I know the specs of the two 10.1 tablets, why am I spending more for the Tab 3 10.1 then the Nexus 10, especially when one is clearly much, much better than the other. I just think that Samsung is cheating it's customers with Tab 3 series and I can't recommend it to anyone, especially when there are clearly better models out there. Oh and because of the poor memory issue with the Tab 3 the Nexus wipes the floor with it when it comes to gaming, I can't play even play games like Most Wanted without wanting to throw the thing across the room due to frustration. It's very laggy, jerky, horrible, maybe it will be much better after the 4.4.2 update, if that ever comes, another issue that Samsung is plagued with, llllooooooonnnnnngggg update periods.I think I will only buy Nexus Android devices for now on, best value, always get the newest updates quickly and they're fast.
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You canNOT compare Tab 7.7 to Tab 3 8" or Tab 3 10.1
These new devices have faster CPUs than Tab 7.7 !
The sexiest thing on Tab 7.7 is that it have an Amoled HD display ! which make picture quality completely better than any Tab (including your so loved Nexus 7, 7 2 and 10).
For its Amoled HD screen I would buy this Tab instead of my retired Note 8.0 if it was available in the same Store in place.
BUT, about performance: Tab 3 8 and 10 are cleary better. Tab 7.7 uses old version of Exynos Dual while Tab 3 8 uses the new Exynos Dual
And about Tab 3 10, this obviously better :good:
Another thing is firmware, Tab 7.7 support (for stable or official release) Android 4.1.2.
While Tab 3 8 and 10 comes out with Jelly Bean 4.2.2.
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You canNOT compare Tab 7.7 to Tab 3 8" or Tab 3 10.1
These new devices have faster CPUs than Tab 7.7 !
The sexiest thing on Tab 7.7 is that it have an Amoled HD display ! which make picture quality completely better than any Tab (including your so loved Nexus 7, 7 2 and 10).
For its Amoled HD screen I would buy this Tab instead of my retired Note 8.0 if it was available in the same Store in place.
BUT, about performance: Tab 3 8 and 10 are cleary better. Tab 7.7 uses old version of Exynos Dual while Tab 3 8 uses the new Exynos Dual
And about Tab 3 10, this obviously better :good:
Another thing is firmware, Tab 7.7 support (for stable or official release) Android 4.1.2.
While Tab 3 8 and 10 comes out with Jelly Bean 4.2.2.
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My whole point was, yes, on paper the Tab 3 10.1 might seem faster but do to the lack of optimization on Samsung's part, the lag just kills the entire experience, it's really bad. The tablet is also cheaply built with a subpar screen. I have almost zero lag on my older 7.7, it hums right along. It doesn't matter, I returned the awfull tablet that is the Tab 3 10.1 and I bought a Nexus 10. Better on every level and I even paid 30 dollars less for it. I also got a Kindle HDX a week ago, my god is that one of the best tablets I have ever purchased, I also got an Otter case wich is built like a friggen tank. I flashed it with an AOSP rom and I could't be happier. I bought it to just use it as a reader but since it has a built in HDMI, I now also use it as a gaming console for my kids and I as well as a multimedia gadget for the TV. Best 7 inch tablet out there bar none, well maybe untill Opo comes out with their little monster. The more I play with the Kindle HDX the more I want the 8.9 version as well, so I will probably give the 7" to the kids as it's cheaper than a PS4 (they have an Xbox anyway) and buy the 8.9 LTE 64GB version for my self.
I never played with the 8 inch version of the Tab 3 just the 7" and 10.1". I'm glad you liked it though, it's important to find something you like, Going further though, I will stay away from Samsung's middle tier line for now on, I gave it shot and wasn't impressed with the build quality or speed. The competition just has so much more to offer in that price range. Even paying just 50 to 100 dollars more for a tablet gets you so much more that it's a no brainer. If someone can't afford the little extra cash, then they should defiantly save or buy from eBay. In the case of the Nexus 10 though, the better tablet turned out to be cheaper. It really is a much better tablet, I wonder why Samsung even bothered releasing a 10.1 version when they already had the Nexus 10, especially a 10.1 version that was so inferior and more expensive, crazy.
Awesome ! Samsung TouchWizz UI !
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My whole point was, yes, on paper the Tab 3 10.1 might seem faster but do to the lack of optimization on Samsung's part, the lag just kills the entire experience, it's really bad. The tablet is also cheaply built with a subpar screen. I have almost zero lag on my older 7.7, it hums right along. It doesn't matter, I returned the awfull tablet that is the Tab 3 10.1 and I bought a Nexus 10. Better on every level and I even paid 30 dollars less for it. I also got a Kindle HDX a week ago, my god is that one of the best tablets I have ever purchased, I also got an Otter case wich is built like a friggen tank. I flashed it with an AOSP rom and I could't be happier. I bought it to just use it as a reader but since it has a built in HDMI, I now also use it as a gaming console for my kids and I as well as a multimedia gadget for the TV. Best 7 inch tablet out there bar none, well maybe untill Opo comes out with their little monster. The more I play with the Kindle HDX the more I want the 8.9 version as well, so I will probably give the 7" to the kids as it's cheaper than a PS4 (they have an Xbox anyway) and buy the 8.9 LTE 64GB version for my self.
I never played with the 8 inch version of the Tab 3 just the 7" and 10.1". I'm glad you liked it though, it's important to find something you like, Going further though, I will stay away from Samsung's middle tier line for now on, I gave it shot and wasn't impressed with the build quality or speed. The competition just has so much more to offer in that price range. Even paying just 50 to 100 dollars more for a tablet gets you so much more that it's a no brainer. If someone can't afford the little extra cash, then they should defiantly save or buy from eBay. In the case of the Nexus 10 though, the better tablet turned out to be cheaper. It really is a much better tablet, I wonder why Samsung even bothered releasing a 10.1 version when they already had the Nexus 10, especially a 10.1 version that was so inferior and more expensive, crazy.
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I will always pick Samsung Dual Core Tablet having the same price as a Dell Tablet :silly:
The thing is that SAMSUNG is just a GIANT. Just admit it
HardCore Gamers always go with nVidia Chipsets (like Tab 1 10.1, Nexus 7 and so on)
Idk what I am going to tell you more.
One question: Are you a Tablet seller/reseller ?
Because you had Tab 3, Tab 7.7 and now you've Nexus 10 and HDX at the same time !
Two monsters (as you stated) at the same time is like making a 3 way SLI which really is a Money wasting
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I will always pick Samsung Dual Core Tablet having the same price as a Dell Tablet :silly:
The thing is that SAMSUNG is just a GIANT. Just admit it
HardCore Gamers always go with nVidia Chipsets (like Tab 1 10.1, Nexus 7 and so on)
Idk what I am going to tell you more.
One question: Are you a Tablet seller/reseller ?
Because you had Tab 3, Tab 7.7 and now you've Nexus 10 and HDX at the same time !
Two monsters (as you stated) at the same time is like making a 3 way SLI which really is a Money wasting
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Being giant is part of their problem, they continue to release subpar tablets for a premium. Though the Tab 3 7" is now 150 dollars, when it was first released Samsung was charging 200 for it. In what world is a Samsung 7" Tab 3 even come close to being competitive to say a Nexus 7 at the same price. I never mentioned Dell in this thread but now that you have brought it up, the Dell Venue 7 Android Tablet now costs 150 dollars and it's a much better tablet. You get the same Intel CPU that is in the Tab 3 10.1, 2GB ram, 16GB SSD, 1280 x 800 and much better build quality, actually because of the additional Gig of memory and the unmolested Android OS it also faster than the Tab 3 10.1, go figure.
Gamers would also be well fitted with a tablet that has a Qualcomm CPU like the Nexus 7 or Kindle HDX. My whole thing is why would anyone buy a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 7", when there are much better options for the same price and extremely great options for only 50 dollars more, like the EVGA Note 7 with the newTegra 4 CPU and an active pen digitizer.
The tab 3 10.1 I returned and bought a Nexus 10, the Samsung 7.7 I've had for almost two years which I have now retired and replaced it with a Kindle HDX. It will go up on eBay this week. So I only have two tablets, well actually three, I also have a Nokia 2520 Windows 8 tablet which I use for work, it's more of a laptop though as I use it mostly with the keyboard case which also has a battery in it. I get 16 hours of battery which I need as I travel a lot.
We should close thread right here !
You HATE Samsung devices, that's clear now
So just buy the one which suit you. I am happy with my Tab 3 10.1 and My Note 2.
My CM base ROM for Tab 3 10.1 is coming soon...
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We should close thread right here !
You HATE Samsung devices, that's clear now
So just buy the one which suit you. I am happy with my Tab 3 10.1 and My Note 2.
My CM base ROM for Tab 3 10.1 is coming soon...
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What part of I bought a Nexus 10, a Samsung made tablet, don't you understand. I like Samsung products just fine, I have 3 TV's by them, a 55" (living room), a 42" (bedroom) and 32" (daughters bedroom), son has a Sony, Chromebox & 3 Chromebook's(kids and my wife all have one), a Tab 7.7, Nexus 10, Note 3 and my wife and kids all have S4's. So I do like their products, in fact you can say we are a Samsung loving family, why do you think I am so critical towards the Tab 3 series, it was so disappointing to me that Samsung could produce such tripe. Good luck with your custom ROM, the Tab 3 10.1 is in desperate need of a clean Android build.
I am just waiting for kikat update
i know after kitkat update galaxy tab 7 inch will become super fast !
In your dreams
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i know after kitkat update galaxy tab 7 inch will become super fast !
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You can still HOPE but it may not get KitKat Update :silly:
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You can still HOPE but it may not get KitKat Update :silly:
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i heard someone has contact samsung,
and he get answer that galaxy tab 3 so on wil get kitkat.
i hope we will get more costume rom like tab 2
Hello i guys i wanna buy a tablet for web browsing,listen music,youtube,emails and im between those two tablets ,they have 50euros different in my country and i'm think what to buy... i heard the tab 3 has better battery life and i really appriciate lonng battery life.Thank you for listening and hope you share your wisdom
I would find a store where I could compare them side by side.
I have the Tab 3 8.0 and it is a fine tablet. It does everything that you stated you like to do, and it does it well. The build quality is great...much better than the Nexus 7 I owned.
But like everything else, everyone has their own opinions and those opinions will vary greatly. You will have to decide for yourself.
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Best buy has the new tab 4 series on sale. The 8" model for $240.
edit: you aren't in US. ?
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Best buy has the new tab 4 series on sale. The 8" model for $240.
edit: you aren't in US. ?
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so should i wait a bit for the tab4 to come out? . I'm more curious for battery life,how much battery life you got from tab3?
I also was choosing between the same two models a short time ago, and went with the tab 3 8.0. I would say for what you want to do with it go for the tab 3. I am very pleased with mine, and have even installed some very graphic intensive games and it handles them with no problem at all. And the battery life is great(not as much so while playing those high graphic games).
With the screen at about 30% brightness I have been getting almost an hour of screen time per 10% battery, while web surfing and email and the sutch.
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Best buy has the new tab 4 series on sale. The 8" model for $240.
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I think tab 4 series are scam.What is the difference then tab 3 ? They are almost same devices.
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I think tab 4 series are scam.What is the difference then tab 3 ? They are almost same devices.
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I just saw the specs there are not so much differences over there.i found note 8 for 220 euros and tab 3 for 175 euros ,what should I go with at last for performance and battery life?
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I just saw the specs there are not so much differences over there.i found note 8 for 220 euros and tab 3 for 175 euros ,what should I go with at last for performance and battery life?
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If I had to choose between the two, the Note 8 all the way, no questions. The Tab 3 8 even though it came out in 2013 has a CPU that is already 3 1/2 years old. Do you absolutely need too go with Samsng , have you looked at the LG G Pad, you can buy them now for 275 dollars, it has 2GB of RAM, 1080P resolution, Qualcomm 600 CPU and has Gorilla Glass 3, where as the Tab 3 8 has nothing and the Note 8 has the first generation. Just an idea, its your money, but I would defiantly choose the Note 8. A much nicer tablet in almost every way. I would also check out the EVGA Note 7, it also has an active digitizer pen, a Nvidia Tegra 4 CPU that lays waste to both the the Tab 3 8 and Note 8, built in HDMI, doesn't have the bloated TouchWiz that takes up 700MB of system memory and is probably the laggiest Android version on the market today, plus it will get updates much, much faster as they come direct from Nvidia, draw back is its only 7 inches.
I would maybe even think about waiting a little, save up some cash and buy the Samsung Pro 8.3, their dropping in price pretty fast and is probably one of the best 8 inch Android tablets on the market today.
Though between you and me, dump the idea of buying an Andoid tablet all together and buy a Dell Venue 8 Pro Windows 8 tablet. Only 250 dollars, have gotten incredible reviews from every tech site and magazine out their, 2GB RAM, 32GB or 64GB storage, USB 3 through OTG, Miracast, active digitizer, much, much better multitasking through multiple windows, can display a movie on your TV and still use the tablet, if you still want Android, developers are working on a dual boot option so you will have the best of both worlds.
Just check out some of the reviews yourself, Arstechnica has a really good article on the Venue 8 Pro.
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If I had to choose between the two, the Note 8 all the way, no questions. The Tab 3 8 even though it came out in 2013 has a CPU that is already 3 1/2 years old. Do you absolutely need too go with Samsng , have you looked at the LG G Pad, you can buy them now for 275 dollars, it has 2GB of RAM, 1080P resolution, Qualcomm 600 CPU and has Gorilla Glass 3, where as the Tab 3 8 has nothing and the Note 8 has the first generation. Just an idea, its your money, but I would defiantly choose the Note 8. A much nicer tablet in almost every way. I would also check out the EVGA Note 7, it also has an active digitizer pen, a Nvidia Tegra 4 CPU that lays waste to both the the Tab 3 8 and Note 8, built in HDMI, doesn't have the bloated TouchWiz that takes up 700MB of system memory and is probably the laggiest Android version on the market today, plus it will get updates much, much faster as they come direct from Nvidia, draw back is its only 7 inches.
I would maybe even think about waiting a little, save up some cash and buy the Samsung Pro 8.3, their dropping in price pretty fast and is probably one of the best 8 inch Android tablets on the market today.
Though between you and me, dump the idea of buying an Andoid tablet all together and buy a Dell Venue 8 Pro Windows 8 tablet. Only 250 dollars, have gotten incredible reviews from every tech site and magazine out their, 2GB RAM, 32GB or 64GB storage, USB 3 through OTG, Miracast, active digitizer, much, much better multitasking through multiple windows, can display a movie on your TV and still use the tablet, if you still want Android, developers are working on a dual boot option so you will have the best of both worlds.
Just check out some of the reviews yourself, Arstechnica has a really good article on the Venue 8 Pro.
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Thank you mate for the message really really helpful .The note 8 cost 220 euros in my country the pro 8.4 300euros and the lg g pad 270. I was thinking the GPad but the I read that the battery go for 4-5 hours the most and I was kinda disappoint. then I thought for 8.4 but it's kinda expensive right now for an android tablet. Do you think I should go with the note 8 for 220euros or with gpad or wait for 8.4 price go down?
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Thank you mate for the message really really helpful .The note 8 cost 220 euros in my country the pro 8.4 300euros and the lg g pad 270. I was thinking the GPad but the I read that the battery go for 4-5 hours the most and I was kinda disappoint. then I thought for 8.4 but it's kinda expensive right now for an android tablet. Do you think I should go with the note 8 for 220euros or with gpad or wait for 8.4 price go down?
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Which country are you in, I'm in Switzerland and I know of a few really great shops that ship pretty much everywhere except the UK. If you absolutely need a tablet now I would go for the LG G Pad, the battery life is really not much different than the Note 8. The Google Play Edition model is defiantly the one I would go for as you will get frequent updates. You will absolutely love the 1080P resolution over the anemic 720P of the Note 8 and the Qualcomm 600 CPU found inside is extremely fast. It all depends if you need a tablet now though.
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Check out digitec.ch, it's in German but you can use a translator, their selling the LG for 250CH (205 EUR) for that price you can't go wrong.
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Which country are you in, I'm in Switzerland and I know of a few really great shops that ship pretty much everywhere except the UK. If you absolutely need a tablet now I would go for the LG G Pad, the battery life is really not much different than the Note 8. The Google Play Edition model is defiantly the one I would go for as you will get frequent updates. You will absolutely love the 1080P resolution over the anemic 720P of the Note 8 and the Qualcomm 600 CPU found inside is extremely fast. It all depends if you need a tablet now though.
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Check out digitec.ch, it's in German but you can use a translator, their selling the LG for 250CH (205 EUR) for that price you can't go wrong.
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I live in Greece and from what i saw today the LG gpad cost like 270 EUROS and we don't have here the playstore edition only the lg edition and the tab 8.4 pro cost like 300 EUROS . Thought the note 8 battery is much better than the gpad but if they are equal i see your point
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I think tab 4 series are scam.What is the difference then tab 3 ? They are almost same devices.
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I guess.. but the Tab 4 is quad core. but other than that, i wouldn't upgrade. But if I didn't have one yet, I would get the Tab 4.
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I guess.. but the Tab 4 is quad core. but other than that, i wouldn't upgrade. But if I didn't have one yet, I would get the Tab 4.
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I wouldn't, in fact I would stay as far as way from the Samsung Tab line of mid-tier tablets as possible. Their just not worth it, the previous model, the Tab 3 had a Exynos 4212, the Exynos 4210 was showcased in November of 2010 and then released in Q1 of 2011 with the Tab 7.7. The two models have almost identical performance models. The Tab 4 follows the same line of thinking by inserting the bare minium of what the current market will except. There is absolutly nothing, nothing, that makes the Tab 4 8 a tablet that one would want to own when compared to others. TouchWiz now takes up an abysimal 800MB of memory so the 1.5GB of RAM is halved for for apps, there is no Gorilla Glass, Samsung claims that their alternative is just as good but experience with these tablets suggest otherwise, the SnapDragon 5 CPU is no match for their other budget friendly models like the 600 which can found in the LG G Pad. Resolution is an appaling 1280 x 800, when every other Android Tablet manufacture is making their 8" models with at least a 1080P panel. Samsung finially dropped the price of the Tab 8 to a managable level, the previuos model was just so outrageously exspensive for the level of hardware that was offered. I still wouldn't buy one though, at any price, your compromising just to much to save a few bucks. Save your money and when you have enough buy an LG G Pad, Kindle HDX 8.9, the Samung Pro 8.4, upcoming Nexus 8, Dell Venue 8 Pro, Lenovo ThinkPad 8, Asus Vivo 8, etc. Just don't paint your self into a corner by buying the absolute bare minium like a Tab 4 8, or any other Tab 4 model. This is a perfect example of Samsung's logic, right now on Amazon, the Tab 4 10.1 is listed for 320 dollars where as the Tab Pro is 400, an 80 dollar difference, you would have to be a complete idiot not to go with the Pro. Who put's a 720P in a 10.1 inch display nowadays, in a 8" was hard enough top swallow.
Tab Pro 10.1
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...8&qid=1399064818&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+pro+10.1
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...TF8&qid=1399064892&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+4+10.1
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I wouldn't, in fact I would stay as far as way from the Samsung Tab line of mid-tier tablets as possible. Their just not worth it, the previous model, the Tab 3 had a Exynos 4212, the Exynos 4210 was showcased in November of 2010 and then released in Q1 of 2011 with the Tab 7.7. The two models have almost identical performance models. The Tab 4 follows the same line of thinking by inserting the bare minium of what the current market will except. There is absolutly nothing, nothing, that makes the Tab 4 8 a tablet that one would want to own when compared to others. TouchWiz now takes up an abysimal 800MB of memory so the 1.5GB of RAM is halved for for apps, there is no Gorilla Glass, Samsung claims that their alternative is just as good but experience with these tablets suggest otherwise, the SnapDragon 5 CPU is no match for their other budget friendly models like the 600 which can found in the LG G Pad. Resolution is an appaling 1280 x 800, when every other Android Tablet manufacture is making their 8" models with at least a 1080P panel. Samsung finially dropped the price of the Tab 8 to a managable level, the previuos model was just so outrageously exspensive for the level of hardware that was offered. I still wouldn't buy one though, at any price, your compromising just to much to save a few bucks. Save your money and when you have enough buy an LG G Pad, Kindle HDX 8.9, the Samung Pro 8.4, upcoming Nexus 8, Dell Venue 8 Pro, Lenovo ThinkPad 8, Asus Vivo 8, etc. Just don't paint your self into a corner by buying the absolute bare minium like a Tab 4 8, or any other Tab 4 model. This is a perfect example of Samsung's logic, right now on Amazon, the Tab 4 10.1 is listed for 320 dollars where as the Tab Pro is 400, an 80 dollar difference, you would have to be a complete idiot not to go with the Pro. Who put's a 720P in a 10.1 inch display nowadays, in a 8" was hard enough top swallow.
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...8&qid=1399064818&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+pro+10.1
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...TF8&qid=1399064892&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+4+10.1
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I just bought a GPAD guys ,from what you told me i choose this one
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I just bought a GPAD guys ,from what you told me i choose this one
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Awesome, give us a small review when you get a chance.
also the tab 4 has higher screen resolution,
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Awesome, give us a small review when you get a chance.
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I will give a small review of my GPAD just to share my experience. I paid 240euros for this with a case with it lets go
9/10Screen:amazing colors and the best screen it terms of size I have work on,much better than nexus 7
9/10Build:reminds me iPad mini with a Samsung touch on it kinda stand in the middle
7/10Battery: not great not bad gives me like 7-8 hours on screen I'm ok with it
8/10Sound: the sound and the speakers are very loud
Overall I give it a 8.5/10 it's the most cool looking tablet I see,so fast in browsing or play 3d games ,I use it everyday and I haven't open my laptop the last 2 days. I wish u bought this before nexus 7 2013 ,between those GPad is miles away.
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I will give a small review of my GPAD just to share my experience. I paid 240euros for this with a case with it lets go
9/10Screen:amazing colors and the best screen it terms of size I have work on,much better than nexus 7
9/10Build:reminds me iPad mini with a Samsung touch on it kinda stand in the middle
7/10Battery: not great not bad gives me like 7-8 hours on screen I'm ok with it
8/10Sound: the sound and the speakers are very loud
Overall I give it a 8.5/10 it's the most cool looking tablet I see,so fast in browsing or play 3d games ,I use it everyday and I haven't open my laptop the last 2 days. I wish u bought this before nexus 7 2013 ,between those GPad is miles away.
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Great news I knew you would like it. The design is pretty cool, love the metal backing with the white body, very modern looking. Nothing beats the Qualcomm CPU's in an Android tablet, especially the 600 and 800 series. The Tab 3 8 just doesn't compare and I didn't want you making a mistake by buying one. I know the fellows here swear by them but for the price and the massive difference in speed and specs the LG is just a better buy all way around. It's such a neat feeling when you have so much power in such a small device. There isn't a game in the Play Store that the LG can't run like butter. You should also really think about buying a Miracast dongle or box for your TV, playing games and watching Movies or TV through the LG connected to a 1080P TV or monitor is simply fantastic. I recommend you installing ES File Manager, it's one of the best file managers around, it allows you to access all of you Cloud storage, local servers and other computers on your network from one app, it also contains a built in unzip and unrar function.
Anyway I'm glad you like it, check out the LG G Pad forum here, unlike the Tab 3 forum the LG G Pad Forum is very active and they have tons of custom ROMS, developers love the LG and it shows by the amount of ROMS available.
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also the tab 4 has higher screen resolution,
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Nope, it's still stuck at 1280 x 800.
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I wouldn't, in fact I would stay as far as way from the Samsung Tab line of mid-tier tablets as possible. Their just not worth it, the previous model, the Tab 3 had a Exynos 4212, the Exynos 4210 was showcased in November of 2010 and then released in Q1 of 2011 with the Tab 7.7. The two models have almost identical performance models. The Tab 4 follows the same line of thinking by inserting the bare minium of what the current market will except. There is absolutly nothing, nothing, that makes the Tab 4 8 a tablet that one would want to own when compared to others. TouchWiz now takes up an abysimal 800MB of memory so the 1.5GB of RAM is halved for for apps, there is no Gorilla Glass, Samsung claims that their alternative is just as good but experience with these tablets suggest otherwise, the SnapDragon 5 CPU is no match for their other budget friendly models like the 600 which can found in the LG G Pad. Resolution is an appaling 1280 x 800, when every other Android Tablet manufacture is making their 8" models with at least a 1080P panel. Samsung finially dropped the price of the Tab 8 to a managable level, the previuos model was just so outrageously exspensive for the level of hardware that was offered. I still wouldn't buy one though, at any price, your compromising just to much to save a few bucks. Save your money and when you have enough buy an LG G Pad, Kindle HDX 8.9, the Samung Pro 8.4, upcoming Nexus 8, Dell Venue 8 Pro, Lenovo ThinkPad 8, Asus Vivo 8, etc. Just don't paint your self into a corner by buying the absolute bare minium like a Tab 4 8, or any other Tab 4 model. This is a perfect example of Samsung's logic, right now on Amazon, the Tab 4 10.1 is listed for 320 dollars where as the Tab Pro is 400, an 80 dollar difference, you would have to be a complete idiot not to go with the Pro. Who put's a 720P in a 10.1 inch display nowadays, in a 8" was hard enough top swallow.
Tab Pro 10.1
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...8&qid=1399064818&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+pro+10.1
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if money is an issue, then I would. Specially if you can find it cheap. But if not, I go Pro 8.4
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if money is an issue, then I would. Specially if you can find it cheap. But if not, I go Pro 8.4
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I was thinking too for the tab pro 8.4 but it was 60 euros more and the first models of the line always has some bugs or problems that the second lines doesn't so I had to wait for the seconds lines to come out. Plus I heard the battery is not strong at all so I pick the cheaper Gpad
So im thinking of replacing my note 4 with this or the 10 inch tab, any chance of a 2015 note tablet? Or am i safe getting a 2014 version
Also how does this compare with a note 4?
My note 4 lags alot (thinking its defective) and i only use it at home as its not my primary phone.
It hasn't been announced, but if it will happen, it'll be at the CES 2015, which starts 2 days from now, from 6-9 january.
There have been no leaks whatsoever, so I rather doubt it. They were working on a 13" device, so perhaps that's the next version. I'd wait until 10 january. If it hasn't been announced by then, it probably won't be any time soon.
Your Note 4 should not lag. Have you tried a factory reset?
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It hasn't been announced, but if it will happen, it'll be at the CES 2015, which starts 2 days from now, from 6-9 january.
There have been no leaks whatsoever, so I rather doubt it. They were working on a 13" device, so perhaps that's the next version. I'd wait until 10 january. If it hasn't been announced by then, it probably won't be any time soon.
Your Note 4 should not lag. Have you tried a factory reset?
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Yes, ive tried a reset and eveything else to fix it.
So its best to wait till after CES to buy a note tablet?
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Yes, ive tried a reset and eveything else to fix it.
So its best to wait till after CES to buy a note tablet?
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Press releases will probably hit today, Monday and Tuesday. But they could wait until Barcelona, that's around the time when they normally announce their new phones, so they might push a tablet announcement out until then.
Id be ok waiting till march, but this is going on my verizon tablet line. And as far as im aware theres usually a gap between the tablets release and when verizon releases their LTE model.
Would be it be unwise to get the pro, and use it till the next one comes out on verizon? (Im estimating a late 2015 release date for the verizon LTE model if they do releas a new tablet)
there is a rumored 10.1 2015 edition that has been spotted in name only so far on some advertising. I had the original Note 10.1 then got the Note 10.1 2014 and was very pleased, the super slow recharge was partial reasoning for me to give it to my gf and then got the Verizon Note 12.2 Pro LTE for the Qualcomm chip that I thought had the quick charge function on the chipset. It does charge pretty fast but for how much I spoent I thought it would have had the Note 4 type Fast Charge. I was able to root the Verizon tablet but future versions after the 4.4.2 exploit will close that loophole. I personally dont understand that they make it so difficult by having a locked bootloader on Verizon. I paid $1000 for the tablet, I want to do whatever I want to it! I love the size vs the 10.1, which feels small now as I have adjust to the bigger screens.
The price point is the issue. In Future, I would just get the WiFi only model as that is usually the version for anything custom (ROMS, recovery, kernel) and are usually widely supported more in my opinion. I'd love to see a Super AMOLED, uses less power, 2k version (whatever the Note 4 specs are) for 12.2 Note Pro. I would love for them to have the fast charge feature just like the NOTE 4, the newer air command of Note 4 vs Note 3/10.1/12.2, Camera improvements passed along, 3 or 4 GB of RAM, larger batteries, thinner bezel. The updated stylus that is more responsive. this is an evolutionary tablet, which I am fine with...
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there is a rumored 10.1 2015 edition that has been spotted in name only so far on some advertising. I had the original Note 10.1 then got the Note 10.1 2014 and was very pleased, the super slow recharge was partial reasoning for me to give it to my gf and then got the Verizon Note 12.2 Pro LTE for the Qualcomm chip that I thought had the quick charge function on the chipset. It does charge pretty fast but for how much I spoent I thought it would have had the Note 4 type Fast Charge. I was able to root the Verizon tablet but future versions after the 4.4.2 exploit will close that loophole. I personally dont understand that they make it so difficult by having a locked bootloader on Verizon. I paid $1000 for the tablet, I want to do whatever I want to it! I love the size vs the 10.1, which feels small now as I have adjust to the bigger screens.
The price point is the issue. In Future, I would just get the WiFi only model as that is usually the version for anything custom (ROMS, recovery, kernel) and are usually widely supported more in my opinion. I'd love to see a Super AMOLED, uses less power, 2k version (whatever the Note 4 specs are) for 12.2 Note Pro. I would love for them to have the fast charge feature just like the NOTE 4, the newer air command of Note 4 vs Note 3/10.1/12.2, Camera improvements passed along, 3 or 4 GB of RAM, larger batteries, thinner bezel. The updated stylus that is more responsive. this is an evolutionary tablet, which I am fine with...
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A family member has the 10.5 Tab S, which is a bit newer than the notepro and it even that doesnt have QuickCharge or Usb 3.0
Note pro and Tab S are already 2k/3gb ram, and i dnt see the need for a 4k android tablet.
Im in a contact for a tablet line anyways, so might as well get the LTE model and plus im not a fan of the exynos chips.
Still not sure if if i should get the notepro or wait, i use my note 4 for drawing, multitasking browsing/media/notes/other apps.
I totally agree agree with agree with your observations as well. I was merely speculating what I personally would like to see. I prefer the Qualcomm chips as 805 has the quick charge feature built in. The WiFi Exnoys is getting all the custom support at least in US, as the p905v (has locked bootloader, stupid verizon). If the bootloader was unlocked my opinion would greatly change. I want to see a note version of the tab S, since they finally used a super ambled screen, thus uses less power on lighting up the screen as the black diodes use no power and let's do. Maybe I was meaning 4G of RAM, that is just to keep everything running smoothly. I much prefer the 12.2 screen size over the 10.1 as I have become use to the larger screen size, now the 10.1 seems too small. It all depends on how much you are using it. I suppose I just felt the need to have the next new toy. I do think the USB 3, never got utilized so them going back to USB 2.0 as long as it has the new fast charger adapter, same one as Note 4, thus making things interchangeable. If it must be LTE then so be it.
If you are just getting a hold over tablet for your drawing then I think maybe ok to buy. I was jus a little disappointed especially since I paid 1000 vs say 750 for LTE version of. Verizon.....
My personal wish list is what I was referring to. I'm sorry for hijacking the thread. If money isn't an issue then get note 12.2 pro LTE.....note 10.1 2014 p600 isn't bad either and has custom support, but again. I was on WiFi only versions previous to this p905v, so my knowledge is purely based on my on usage.
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I bought a 12.2 lte as soon as it was released here, and I was pretty impressed with the snapdragon performance after several exynos phones and tablets - after lots of tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) extremely satisfied with the performance.
Then came the Note 4 lte. Everything I was expecting - way better than the 12.2 out of the box, and after heavy tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) I'm extremely happy with my Note 4.
So, if you're not happy with a Note 4, you'll hate a 12.2 and should wait for the next generation. When is a 13" Note coming? I want one!
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I bought a 12.2 lte as soon as it was released here, and I was pretty impressed with the snapdragon performance after several exynos phones and tablets - after lots of tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) extremely satisfied with the performance.
Then came the Note 4 lte. Everything I was expecting - way better than the 12.2 out of the box, and after heavy tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) I'm extremely happy with my Note 4.
So, if you're not happy with a Note 4, you'll hate a 12.2 and should wait for the next generation. When is a 13" Note coming? I want one!
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Its not that i dont like the device, just that it freezes and lags a lot And i rather not pay samsung to fix it. The note 4 isnt even my main line, so it doesnt leave the house, i use it as a tablet.
What makes the 12.2 bad?
Like I said, until I got my Note 4 I was really pleased with it. Now I want a 13" with the performance of a Note 4. I was making a subjective comparison that the Note 4 snapdragon performs way better than the older gen Note 12.2 snapdragon, so anyone considering investing so much money may decide to wait and see if there's an announcement next month. ..
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Like I said, until I got my Note 4 I was really pleased with it. Now I want a 13" with the performance of a Note 4. I was making a subjective comparison that the Note 4 snapdragon performs way better than the older gen Note 12.2 snapdragon, so anyone considering investing so much money may decide to wait and see if there's an announcement next month. ..
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i have nothing to lose waiting i guess.
But id want the verizon LTE version of any anounced Note Tablet, i got rid of my LTE ipad mini so now i have an empty tablet line that i have to pay for till 2016.
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Like I said, until I got my Note 4 I was really pleased with it. Now I want a 13" with the performance of a Note 4. I was making a subjective comparison that the Note 4 snapdragon performs way better than the older gen Note 12.2 snapdragon, so anyone considering investing so much money may decide to wait and see if there's an announcement next month. ..
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I posted in the note 4 xda section, and theyre pretty much telling me my note 4 is defective.
I have 4 options
1) get the note pro
2) buy the tab S of a family member (mostly for the samoled screen)
3) try to get a Certfied Note 4 off verizon
4) buy another note 4
The note 4 was on my line, but i replaced it with an iphone 6+. Right now its just a tablet (it doesnt even have a sim in it.) Let say i get a working a note 4, im still only going to use it at home as a tablet, which is why im thinking of a note tablet.
So my questions to u are
1) Would u say the LCD screen was a disapoiment? Compare to a samoled (is having a samoled screen Tab S really worth giving up the note features)
2) in what way does ur note pro prefor inferior to your note 4?
For example I dont play any games on my note 4
On my note 4 i use it to draw [sketchbookx + spen], youtube 1080p +, videos of my memory card [720p or less Quality], play about 48gbs of music, and a lot of internet browsing. (I actually do all my browsing on it since i hate my iphones browsers/1gb of ram)
i use the multi window feature alot, running several things at once. I also like how they minimize to a bubble if u need to get it out of ur way but dont want to closw it.
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It hasn't been announced, but if it will happen, it'll be at the CES 2015, which starts 2 days from now, from 6-9 january.
There have been no leaks whatsoever, so I rather doubt it. They were working on a 13" device, so perhaps that's the next version. I'd wait until 10 january. If it hasn't been announced by then, it probably won't be any time soon.
Your Note 4 should not lag. Have you tried a factory reset?
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It will probably be announced at ifa
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It will probably be announced at ifa
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Well, the current one was announced in January, released in march. They normally don't deviate from such dates in a lineup.
I suspect a new version simply isn't viable yet.
IFA remains a possibility, but I doubt it.
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Well, the current one was announced in January, released in march. They normally don't deviate from such dates in a lineup.
I suspect a new version simply isn't viable yet.
IFA remains a possibility, but I doubt it.
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I think so too, im going to just go for it then (can always return it/get the 2015 devicd)
Thing is people have been telling me the tab s is the better tablet now. Why i do like samoled screen for videos, i cant think of any other reason the Tab S would be better. Especially since the spen gets so much use from me (drawing)
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I think so too, im going to just go for it then (can always return it/get the 2015 devicd)
Thing is people have been telling me the tab s is the better tablet now. Why i do like samoled screen for videos, i cant think of any other reason the Tab S would be better. Especially since the spen gets so much use from me (drawing)
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An AMOLED screen has infinite contrast, since black is generated by turning the LEDs off. It also has a higher colour saturation (so more vibrant). For films that's a little prettier. Due to the black=LED Off system, black systems are more power efficient. However, Samsung lost all IQ and decided to implement White menu's on everything, and combined with Google's white Material design in every app it barely makes a difference anymore. Films, even thrillers, are never true black, so in that respect it also makes no difference in battery life.
Sadly, the Tab S doesn't come in 12.2" nor with an Spen.
In terms of internal hardware the Tab S is identical to the Tab Pro and Note Pro.
If there was a Note Pro 2015 and it came with an AMOLED screen, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. But Samsung has already stated that 12.2" AMOLED is far too expensive to produce, and would result in an additional 250 quid ontop of the already hefty pricetag.
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An AMOLED screen has infinite contrast, since black is generated by turning the LEDs off. It also has a higher colour saturation (so more vibrant). For films that's a little prettier. Due to the black=LED Off system, black systems are more power efficient. However, Samsung lost all IQ and decided to implement White menu's on everything, and combined with Google's white Material design in every app it barely makes a difference anymore. Films, even thrillers, are never true black, so in that respect it also makes no difference in battery life.
Sadly, the Tab S doesn't come in 12.2" nor with an Spen.
In terms of internal hardware the Tab S is identical to the Tab Pro and Note Pro.
If there was a Note Pro 2015 and it came with an AMOLED screen, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. But Samsung has already stated that 12.2" AMOLED is far too expensive to produce, and would result in an additional 250 quid ontop of the already hefty pricetag.
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Sounds like theyre just being bias then if the internals are identical, and i imagine the note lcd screen isnt too shabby for videos anyways. They were saying you can use a stylus pen on the tab S but its just not the same. Think ill go for the Note Tablet.
Its more likely the next 10.1 note would carry the AMOLED than the Pro or maybe even a new AMOLED Note 8.0.
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Sounds like theyre just being bias then if the internals are identical, and i imagine the note lcd screen isnt too shabby for videos anyways. They were saying you can use a stylus pen on the tab S but its just not the same. Think ill go for the Note Tablet.
Its more likely the next 10.1 note would carry the AMOLED than the Pro or maybe even a new AMOLED Note 8.0.
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You can use a regular stylus with a rubber tip on a Tab S, yes. But an Spen isn't a regular stylus, so it isn't pressure sensitive, has no button, no action menu and no interactions.
If you draw a lot on it, nothing beats an Spen. I tried drawing with a regular stylus but it's just not the same. No pressure sensitivity whatsoever.
I quite enjoy watching films on this thing. On the main homescreen it looks like you can see the screen pattern, but in films, games, etc the thing is perfectly crisp. Very enjoyable
Yes Indeed. I do suspect the Note 10.1 2015 may come with an AMOLED screen. But not anything over 10.5".
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You can use a regular stylus with a rubber tip on a Tab S, yes. But an Spen isn't a regular stylus, so it isn't pressure sensitive, has no button, no action menu and no interactions.
If you draw a lot on it, nothing beats an Spen. I tried drawing with a regular stylus but it's just not the same. No pressure sensitivity whatsoever.
I quite enjoy watching films on this thing. On the main homescreen it looks like you can see the screen pattern, but in films, games, etc the thing is perfectly crisp. Very enjoyable
Yes Indeed. I do suspect the Note 10.1 2015 may come with an AMOLED screen. But not anything over 10.5".
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I can't live without the S pen either. I use the note 4 as my main phone. The problem is mine is LTE and AT&T is going to make me wait 60 days till they give me the unlock code for a new device. Since I travel a lot I don't know if I could deal with that again