Will it have 4K screen? - Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers

Only reason I'd upgrade.

I have Note 5 and the resolution is soo good already. At 4K it would not make much difference. What would 4K do to a small screen?

Why do you need a higher resolution than 2.5k? Do you see pixels so badly that images and text look grainy? You realize the trade offs with a 4K display would be worse battery life, worse gaming performance, and likely lower quality screen as 4K in smartphones is still in it's infancy right?

lite426 said:
Only reason I'd upgrade.
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No, it won't.
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I have a 120" wall paint screen and I only see in 1080p. If I get to 4K, that would make a mega difference.
But not on such a small screen. Even if you rip a movie to 480p, it still looks great on a 2k tiny screen.

JasonJoel said:
No, it won't.
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So this is confirmed that it won't?

geoff5093 said:
Why do you need a higher resolution than 2.5k? Do you see pixels so badly that images and text look grainy? You realize the trade offs with a 4K display would be worse battery life, worse gaming performance, and likely lower quality screen as 4K in smartphones is still in it's infancy right?
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I have a special use case where I'll be using it at very close distance. But wasn't Quad HD in its "infancy" as well when it came out on the S6? The screen on the S6 is good. Same when Full HD came out on the S4. Both were at the cutting edge at the time.

lite426 said:
I have a special use case where I'll be using it at very close distance. But wasn't Quad HD in its "infancy" as well when it came out on the S6? The screen on the S6 is good. Same when Full HD came out on the S4. Both were at the cutting edge at the time.
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I know the Sony Xperia has a 4k display but has lots of compromises
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I know the Sony Xperia has a 4k display but has lots of compromises
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The Xperia runs at 1080p for anything other than video or photos so that's useless to me. And I remember one of the first 720p phones, the Xperia S had really washed out colours. Then when Samsung came out with 720p there weren't any problems like that.

No. The screen itself is on par with the Note 5.

I'll only consider 4k if doesn't vastly affect battery life, but that will never happen. So 2k is perfect.

Scorpion67 said:
I'll only consider 4k if doesn't vastly affect battery life, but that will never happen. So 2k is perfect.
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Why not 1080p? You'd get even better battery life with that.

For things like VR you need the higher resolution. 4k would be better for that.
The release today confirmed no 4k screen, which is really no big surprise.
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I personally think 4K on a mobile is pointless! On a 55" tv on the other hand!...
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This reminds me of the old camera megapixel debate. Bigger?! It must be better!! Er...no. Screens this size do not need 4K, it's a waste and additional real estate for the GPU and CPU to push around. Once you get beyond a certain DPI, the human eye will struggle to notice the difference. 4K on a 55" television? Yes, worth it. 4K on a 5.5" phone? No, it's an unnecessary gimmick to sell phones to people who should know better.
In short, the resolution on the S7 is more than good enough.

'''more than half of US households are anticipated to have a 4K-capable TV '''
Then why not for S7 ? Curious about it

Penelope559 said:
'''more than half of US households are anticipated to have a 4K-capable TV '''
Then why not for S7 ? Curious about it
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Simple answer, because it's not required. And comparing the resolution of a phone to a TV is ridiculous given the size difference, see my post above. I'm personally glad Samsung haven't bought into the 4K bulls**t and concentrated on more important aspects of the phone to improve.

Beefheart said:
This reminds me of the old camera megapixel debate. Bigger?! It must be better!! Er...no. Screens this size do not need 4K, it's a waste and additional real estate for the GPU and CPU to push around. Once you get beyond a certain DPI, the human eye will struggle to notice the difference. 4K on a 55" television? Yes, worth it. 4K on a 5.5" phone? No, it's an unnecessary gimmick to sell phones to people who should know better.
In short, the resolution on the S7 is more than good enough.
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Excuse me, no one's said bigger=better. I have specific uses where the extra resolution will be valuable. Please don't speak for everyone.

What uses are these?

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What uses are these?
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VR, as mentioned earlier.
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4K video so disappointing

I've been recording a few 4k clips. I think its pretty pointless A) No OIS , you need a tripod only reall for using it B) Frame rate not 30fps all the time stutters a bit.
Other than that its the most detailed amazing video on my 2560 x 1440p monitor (No 4k monitor yet), but with no OIS its really not practical at all. Or usable. And not to mention the 5 minute clip limit...
Anyone here going to honestly be using it over 1080p? (Unless you carry a tripod) Guess i'm too use to the G2's OIS camera which gives much smoother videos.
Honestly, mostly I just use 720p. In my opinion the 4k function is an marketing trick by Samsung. Well it works but the mainstream market needs a few more years until it's the non+ ultra. It's nice to have but I'm quietly sure I won't use it at all.
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Honestly, mostly I just use 720p. In my opinion the 4k function is an marketing trick by Samsung. Well it works but the mainstream market needs a few more years until it's the non+ ultra. It's nice to have but I'm quietly sure I won't use it at all.
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Agreed. 100% marketing gimmick. Other than playing with it for a few minutes, doubt I will ever use it again. If it was 4K 30fps with image stabilization yes.
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I was actually thinking of filming a commercial with it. I do have a tripod, slider and a clamp to hold it. I will also be shooting the same scenes in 1080P on my HPX300 just in case.
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I've been recording a few 4k clips. I think its pretty pointless A) No OIS , you need a tripod only reall for using it B) Frame rate not 30fps all the time stutters a bit.
Other than that its the most detailed amazing video on my 2560 x 1440p monitor (No 4k monitor yet), but with no OIS its really not practical at all. Or usable. And not to mention the 5 minute clip limit...
Anyone here going to honestly be using it over 1080p? (Unless you carry a tripod) Guess i'm too use to the G2's OIS camera which gives much smoother videos.
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I wish you guys would quit with the whining.. the camera (from what I have seen) is clearly better than its predecessors or just about anything on the market for a smartphone. Samsung has clearly improved this phone in every way, its by far the best phone on the market. No other phone can anywhere close to what this phone offers, the features are endless. So stop crying and be happy that you are fortunate to own the best phone on the market. IMO
I don't think that the 4k ability is outstanding but someone has to take the first step. And that the note 3 can handle the bandwidth needed for 4k is enough to wow me right there.(it is very compressed I'd imagine)
And to people saying its a marketing gimmick, isn't the iphones slow mo feature the same? The note 3 can do 720p 120fps just like the iphone but there not hyping it up. 4k is more exciting then watching every video on YouTube in slow mo. If I want to watch slow mo I want to see it at 1000fps with a true slow mo camera.
Lenniitsch said:
Honestly, mostly I just use 720p. In my opinion the 4k function is an marketing trick by Samsung. Well it works but the mainstream market needs a few more years until it's the non+ ultra. It's nice to have but I'm quietly sure I won't use it at all.
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Uh, 4K is a feature of the snapdragon 800 chipset. Samsung had nothing to do with it. Blame Qualcomm for it being less than desirable.
I imagine xda devs will get around the 5 minute limit soon enough.
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I'm so tired of coming to this forum and seeing people constantly complain about things that are either superficial or not mind blowing (etc. speakers not putting out surround sound 7.1, 4k not being worlds better than 1080p).
Keep these negative post in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458640
Agree Sgt. Beside that I would add permission that people with less of 200 (maybe 100) cant open new threads in general..Only qa.
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Sounds great, they should also make it that Samsung fanboys can only start posts too? Fanboys here don't let people express their opinions which is what forums are all about discussions and sometimes there are topics you might not like.
Edit: I've request this thread be lock and buried incase more don't like it
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Do you record video in 4k DCI, 4k UHD or 1080p?

Which video setting is best?
Stick with 1080 in my opinion. 4k is still being adopted and chances are you don't even have a 4k display. There is no point in recording in a resolution that you don't have a display for due to its larger size in recording 4k
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But in the future all TV will be 4k or better. If I'm taking baby videos of my son I would like them on be 4k. So, again, what is everyone using?
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But in the future all TV will be 4k or better. If I'm taking baby videos of my son I would like them on be 4k. So, again, what is everyone using?
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I don't think there'll be 4K on phones for awhile, 1440p has yet to be adopted with the exception of G3. Technology is always changing and it seems like you've already made your decision so why ask? Use 4K if u want, its up to you honestly.
By the way you're speaking about technology becoming old, by the time your son grows up 4K will become obsolete and another standard will be the standard. 4K prices are still very expensive and is not as mainstream as 1080p as it'll take time to adopt.
True but 4k would be more future proof than 1080p.
I guess the real question is what is the difference between 4k dci Vs 4k uhd?
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True but 4k would be more future proof than 1080p.
I guess the real question is what is the difference between 4k dci Vs 4k uhd?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#Resolutions
UHD for Ultra HD
DCI for Digital Cinema Initiative
I could be wrong but I believe uhd is 30fps and DCI is 24fps. So for highest quality, choose uhd.
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4k on 1080p TV's will look sharper (in a sense) as the picture is scaled to 1/4.
If the phone had true 1080p @60fps with sound, then that would be the best recording format..
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Actually, UHD is not real 4K, DCI is real 4K. If you want actual 4K use DCI.
ruvy01 said:
Actually, UHD is not real 4K, DCI is real 4K. If you want actual 4K use DCI.
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^^^This
It's an ever growing problem that manufacturers are incorrectly marketing UHD as 4k when it isn't actually 4k at all.
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But there IS 4k on phones...
zephiK said:
I don't think there'll be 4K on phones for awhile, 1440p has yet to be adopted with the exception of G3. Technology is always changing and it seems like you've already made your decision so why ask? Use 4K if u want, its up to you honestly.
By the way you're speaking about technology becoming old, by the time your son grows up 4K will become obsolete and another standard will be the standard. 4K prices are still very expensive and is not as mainstream as 1080p as it'll take time to adopt.
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This post doesn't make sense. The OnePlus One does record in 4k, and that's why we're discussing recording modes. Are you talking about 4K Display's on phones?
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This post doesn't make sense. The OnePlus One does record in 4k, and that's why we're discussing recording modes. Are you talking about 4K Display's on phones?
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He's talking about displays. Obviously. Because look at the post he's quoting.
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stu5797 said:
But in the future all TV will be 4k or better. If I'm taking baby videos of my son I would like them on be 4k. So, again, what is everyone using?
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This is exactly how I see it. However I'm still recording in 1080p. Most of the stuff I film isn't worth storing, so 1080p is fine.
If I would go for 4k I would choose UHD as this is the standard for TV. DCI is true 4k but only used for cinematic recording, so I guess this means black borders on your 4k TV.
At least this is how I understood it, it does not mean it's right [emoji317]
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Stick with 1080 in my opinion. 4k is still being adopted and chances are you don't even have a 4k display. There is no point in recording in a resolution that you don't have a display for due to its larger size in recording 4k
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I see a lot of people saying the same but for the life of me I just can't understand why. In the future when you have a UHD TV would you not want to see your recordings in UHD instead of HD?
I don't have a UHD TV yet but I do have a 4k TV but I would always record in the highest quality I can.
Btw, right now UHD seems to be broken.
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I see a lot of people saying the same but for the life of me I just can't understand why. In the future when you have a UHD TV would you not want to see your recordings in UHD instead of HD?
I don't have a UHD TV yet but I do have a 4k TV but I would always record in the highest quality I can.
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This is why: http://www.cnet.com/news/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/
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This is why: http://www.cnet.com/news/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/
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That article's stupid. Plus it's three years old. I don't care how intelligent the author attempts to portray himself as by quoting a lot of math, I can and do see a difference between 1080P and 4K on a standard size tv screen. What a load of rubbish.
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This is why: http://www.cnet.com/news/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/
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Another load of [email protected] from CNET. Anyone that looks at the two screens beside each other can see the difference unless your eyesight is bad.
timmaaa said:
That article's stupid. Plus it's three years old. I don't care how intelligent the author attempts to portray himself as by quoting a lot of math, I can and do see a difference between 1080P and 4K on a standard size tv screen. What a load of rubbish.
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Strictly resolution wise I see no difference. You may see other differences in terms of brightness and color reproduction but you can get that on newer or higher end 1080p displays.
BTW, the article was updated in May 2014.
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Another load of [email protected] from CNET. Anyone that looks at the two screens beside each other can see the difference unless your eyesight is bad.
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I take it you own a 4K TV?

Any good Xperia Z5 vs X camera performance article?

Hi there,
There is a Z5 vs X camera review here:
https://recombu.com/mobile/article/sony-xperia-x-vs-xperia-z5-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7-camera-review
(actually, the article is Z5 vs X vs S7 review, but I don't pay much attention to the S7).
From what I can read, Z5 and X camera experiences are vastly similar.
Anybody with a link to another review comparing the Z5 and the X?
Also, the X doesn't support 4k camera recording? Crazy!
From what I read neither X model supports 4k recording mode. I am even wondering if it supports 1080p 120fps and/or 720p 240fps.. The SD820 can easily handle it, SD800 handles 55mbit 4k recording without problems. Also other brands using SD820 does 4k recording so we can rule out the SoC as being the problem. That leaves us with it being badly designed as in heat management, sensor gets to warm (strange considering previous Z phones) or just a business decision. All are stupid and bad decisions and it looks like they are going the Doro phone way.
That said that comparision is pretty much worthless. All the photos are downscaled and you cant see them in larger size so it only thing to compare is colors and exposure.
EQ2000 said:
From what I read neither X model supports 4k recording mode. I am even wondering if it supports 1080p 120fps and/or 720p 240fps.. The SD820 can easily handle it, SD800 handles 55mbit 4k recording without problems. Also other brands using SD820 does 4k recording so we can rule out the SoC as being the problem. That leaves us with it being badly designed as in heat management, sensor gets to warm (strange considering previous Z phones) or just a business decision. All are stupid and bad decisions and it looks like they are going the Doro phone way.
That said that comparision is pretty much worthless. All the photos are downscaled and you cant see them in larger size so it only thing to compare is colors and exposure.
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even I watched a youtube video that showed Xperia X overheated after only 4mins of 1080p 60fps video recording!
I'm going to assume that was a defective device, but if this is going to be a widespread problem then SONY is done!
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even I watched a youtube video that showed Xperia X overheated after only 4mins of 1080p 60fps video recording!
I'm going to assume that was a defective device, but if this is going to be a widespread problem then SONY is done!
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Well that was a fake video. Looking at his comments he had a grief with Sony claiming all previous Xperia Z phones overheated in the same way amongst other ravishing comments. So we can disregard it when lots of people report it can record far beyond 4 minutes.
That said the X series do feel a bit like a 'pick parts of the shelf that are remaining and build a new phone' plus some added extras. They are going in the wrong direction and not listening to their users. They even calculate they will go at a loss this year on number of sold units.. Well of course! The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different result!
Our z5's camera overheats the same, right? I just tested it, 25 C ambient temperature, [email protected], it stops before 4 min mark. Doesn't it do the same for everyone?
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millicent said:
Our z5's camera overheats the same, right? I just tested it, 25 C ambient temperature, [email protected], it stops before 4 min mark. Doesn't it do the same for everyone?
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no, actually my Z5p can record up to 40mins of 4K video without any overheating message or thermal throttle at the same ambient temperature!
I only get full storage error after 40mins+!
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no, actually my Z5p can record up to 40mins of 4K video without any overheating message or thermal throttle at the same ambient temperature!
I only get full storage error after 40mins+!
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Then you've got a very special device. Most of us struggle with getting 5 minutes of 4K video.
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Lambo_car16 said:
Then you've got a very special device. Most of us struggle with getting 5 minutes of 4K video.
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You're not supposed to film yourself inside a sauna.. :laugh: Try it again with normal ambient temperature.
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You're not supposed to film yourself inside a sauna.. [emoji23] Try it again with normal ambient temperature.
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I am supposed to be able to film in a normal room temperature of 19°C, however. Like I said, I can't do more than 5 minutes. The camera on this device is a major dissapointment — you'd they would've be fixed most of the problems after 4 generations.
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I am supposed to be able to film in a normal room temperature of 19°C, however. Like I said, I can't do more than 5 minutes. The camera on this device is a major dissapointment — you'd they would've be fixed most of the problems after 4 generations.
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that's really weird mate! my room temperature is usually between 21-25C and I can reach more than 40min of 4k!
the device temp becomes steady around 52C, what is your temp when you get the warning? (I use cpu temp to monitor it, it's free)
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that's really weird mate! my room temperature is usually between 21-25C and I can reach more than 40min of 4k!
the device temp becomes steady around 52C, what is your temp when you get the warning? (I use cpu temp to monitor it, it's free)
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I will try again but if I recall, even since I bought it there were video reviews that showed 4k video recording stopping well before 10 mins mark. I remember trying it last winter, 17-20 degrees C, it stopped at around 5 minutes.
update: I tried the 4k outside, breezy, 22 deg C. I stopped it myself after 10 mins, CPU was at 52 C from 40 on idle. Also my phone is in its spigen case, filmed on external sdcard.
I imagine the ambient temperature to make or break the difference. I will try some other time inside at 25 degrees or more, I expect the camera to stop working before 10 minutes. I know it did so in the past.
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Sony Xperia XZ Premium Reviews

GSM Arena posted the first full review:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_xz_premium-review-1610.php
look at video comparison (XZP-XZs-S8) http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=8593&idPhone2=8599&idPhone3=8161
First thoughts, S8 wins. What do you think?
Sony camera is much improved and very competitive with the other flagships from what I've seen around the web. I've got no issues going with the Sony.
If the parameters were the same, I would give you the reason, but this is not the case.
XZP: ISO 800 , 1/32s
S8: ISO 250 1/10s
Honestly the Xperia XZ Premium does a better job considering that the iso is higher
http://www.meltystyle.fr/xperia-xz-...tphone-et-on-y-a-participe-exclu-a603618.html
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First thoughts, S8 wins. What do you think?
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If you take everything into consideration, no I don't agree at all.
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look at video comparison (XZP-XZs-S8) http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=8593&idPhone2=8599&idPhone3=8161
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Unfortunately the s8 looks a lot better than the xz premium in these tests.
I dont want the s8, but decent alternatives look limited at the moment!
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Unfortunately the s8 looks a lot better than the xz premium in these tests.
I dont want the s8, but decent alternatives look limited at the moment!
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I dont think...
Look at the heart, photo from S8 is overexposed, on Xz Premium is darker and have more details...
Or look on brushes, photo from xz premium looks more detailed, on S8 looks like watercolor...
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I dont think...
Look at the heart, photo from S8 is overexposed, on Xz Premium is darker and have more details...
Or look on brushes, photo from xz premium looks more detailed, on S8 looks like watercolor...
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To me the heart looks underexposed on the Sony and the brushes in general are noisier than on the s8 (although neither are fantastic).
I dont like the lowlight photos. Really dark...
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To me the heart looks underexposed on the Sony and the brushes in general are noisier than on the s8 (although neither are fantastic).
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Its because Sony have only 2.0 aperture, maybe have noiser photo but more detailed
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Its because Sony have only 2.0 aperture, maybe have noiser photo but more detailed
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For me there's no point have detailed photos when it's so noisy though.
Will be interesting to see if the Oneplus 5 has a dual camera setup and the quality they can produce.
Stuff have posted their review... and they're not overly enthusiastic about the camera either (although battery life seems OK)...
https://www.stuff.tv/my/sony/xperia-xz-premium/review-0
Hmm I'm bit a bit disappointed yet again I was really hoping for good things. I don't want the S8 because I hate curved edges. So I'm left with waiting for the Google pixel 2 or sonys next flagship in September/October which will be an improved on this..! Urgh I hate waiting lol. I think Sony really need to focus on their algorithms like the pixel takes excellent shots!
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Hmm I'm bit a bit disappointed yet again I was really hoping for good things. I don't want the S8 because I hate curved edges. So I'm left with waiting for the Google pixel 2 or sonys next flagship in September/October which will be an improved on this..! Urgh I hate waiting lol. I think Sony really need to focus on their algorithms like the pixel takes excellent shots!
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I strongly recommend you have a look at the HTC U11 that was launched today - it seems to be everything that I wanted the XZ Premium to be! The camera beats the S8 and Pixel (according to dxomark) and it supports hi res audio too. Benchmark wise it beats the XZP (if benchmarks are your thing). It doesn't have 960fps slow mo or a 4k screen, but realistically I think those are more gimmicks than something that would be used often (although if the XZP supported Daydream then it would make it more useful), but it does have it's own gimmick of squeezable sides which can be used to take photos, launch apps, etc. The only downside is the battery is slightly smaller at 3000mAh, but HTC seems to optimise previous phones pretty well from what I have briefly read.
There's a hands on review here (it's still being written, so keep checking back if it hasn't been completed yet...
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_u_11_hands_on-review-1609.php
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I strongly recommend you have a look at the HTC U11 that was launched today - it seems to be everything that I wanted the XZ Premium to be! The camera beats the S8 and Pixel (according to dxomark) and it supports hi res audio too. Benchmark wise it beats the XZP (if benchmarks are your thing). It doesn't have 960fps slow mo or a 4k screen, but realistically I think those are more gimmicks than something that would be used often (although if the XZP supported Daydream then it would make it more useful), but it does have it's own gimmick of squeezable sides which can be used to take photos, launch apps, etc. The only downside is the battery is slightly smaller at 3000mAh, but HTC seems to optimise previous phones pretty well from what I have briefly read.
There's a hands on review here (it's still being written, so keep checking back if it hasn't been completed yet...
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_u_11_hands_on-review-1609.php
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Yeah, I saw this earlier I was very impressed with the DxO mark of 90! I love the photos taken by the Pixel so I'm sure the HTC will be in the same class. My only gripe is I heavily rely on a 3.5mm headphone jack and charging at the same time due to my needs at night so this is what is keeping me from the HTC unfortunately it plays a big role in my work. 3000mah battery doesn't phase me as the S8 did better in terms of battery life compared to the Xz premium which has a bigger battery. I think software plays a big part in optimisation for camera/battery.
The search continues... :laugh:
shineyads said:
I strongly recommend you have a look at the HTC U11 that was launched today - it seems to be everything that I wanted the XZ Premium to be! The camera beats the S8 and Pixel (according to dxomark) and it supports hi res audio too. Benchmark wise it beats the XZP (if benchmarks are your thing). It doesn't have 960fps slow mo or a 4k screen, but realistically I think those are more gimmicks than something that would be used often (although if the XZP supported Daydream then it would make it more useful), but it does have it's own gimmick of squeezable sides which can be used to take photos, launch apps, etc. The only downside is the battery is slightly smaller at 3000mAh, but HTC seems to optimise previous phones pretty well from what I have briefly read.
There's a hands on review here (it's still being written, so keep checking back if it hasn't been completed yet...
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_u_11_hands_on-review-1609.php
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4k hdr is no gimmick
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4k hdr is no gimmick
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You'd only really notice the difference side-by-side with a screen without it, plus there really isn't much 4k hdr content out there to make use of it. If only it had been Daydream compatible.
I'd be interested to know how you'll be using the 4k hdr extensively when the phone comes out?
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You'd only really notice the difference side-by-side with a screen without it, plus there really isn't much 4k hdr content out there to make use of it. If only it had been Daydream compatible.
I'd be interested to know how you'll be using the 4k hdr extensively when the phone comes out?
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I had the z5 premium and also have 4k hdr tv with a ps4 pro so I know what the 4k hdr fuss is all about. It's hard to notice it but once I go back to a general game which has no hdr support you can really tell. I mean its not night and day difference but you can tell.
I had the z5 premium I loved it. Sharpness and quality was fantastic. Pictures I took when viewing the images in that high res display were brilliant . I had some that looked unbelievable.*But the phone itself was difficult to hold and the battery was average not terrible and not great. Both these things have been fixed on the xz premium with looped edges and the supposedly 8hour screen on time screen.
Support for 4k screen wasn't great back then either. Although this time I believe they have already added 4k hdr support in amazon prime and I believe more to come.
The only people who'll tell you this "4k hdr is gimmick thing" are high end reviewers who blindly go over things and haters.
So anyway back to your q I'll probably be using it to view my amazing camera pictures on that high res screen. Along with 4khdr amazon prime content. YouTube apparently has 4k but no hdr and lets hope Netflix does too. And like I did with the z5premium I will download some movies in 4k too
Along with all this I'll be testing out vr although not Daydream compatible it may still work out with riftcat and pc vr. And of course im a huge fan of ps4 remote play too.
Overall the xz premium device according to many reviews I've seen is pretty much the complete package. So yeah im hyped for this one

General 1080p Default Screen Resolution

Now that the embargo is up, one of the things I've found interesting from the reviews is that the 7 Pro screen resolution defaults to 1080p, and you have to go into the settings to switch it to 1440p.
Maybe Google thinks people will notice the improved battery life more than they will notice the reduced resolution.
Unless you hold the phone a few inches from your face, or you use a magnifying glass, you will NOT see any discernable difference. So it depends on what is more important to "you", longer battery life per day, or imaginary higher screen resolution?
Interesting, I didn't know that. Does that really save that much battery? The whole screen is still being used.
It's also a weird thing to do marketing wise - hey you've got a great display, but we'll show you worse quality...
What's the point of having the higher resolution if many people will never use it?
jbaysingar said:
Now that the embargo is up, one of the things I've found interesting from the reviews is that the 7 Pro screen resolution defaults to 1080p, and you have to go into the settings to switch it to 1440p.
Maybe Google thinks people will notice the improved battery life more than they will notice the reduced resolution.
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Sometimes they just make us do all the settings which are suitable for us!
mko000 said:
Interesting, I didn't know that. Does that really save that much battery? The whole screen is still being used.
It's also a weird thing to do marketing wise - hey you've got a great display, but we'll show you worse quality...
What's the point of having the higher resolution if many people will never use it?
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Some people are into specs and will buy based on that alone, whether it's the SOC, the screen resolution, the refresh rate, or the camera modules even though in real world use most of the specs make no discernable difference to 99% of end users.
Is it possible to make a Toggle to switch between 1080p and 1440p in Tasker?
I'm leaving mine at 1080p. It's plenty good. Hardly even noticable.
I cant tell a difference, well not one that makes any difference so i'll leave it at 1080p if its going to give a bit more battery life.
Has anyone done a comparison on the difference between 1080 and 1440
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Has anyone done a comparison on the difference between 1080 and 1440
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The only thing I can reliably see is when in the setting itself when you toggle between the two resolutions I notice that the clock in the notification shade will move about 1/8th inch to the left on QHD and then move back to the right on FHD. Give it a try and see.
Paz9 said:
Has anyone done a comparison on the difference between 1080 and 1440
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As I mentioned previously, I currently have an S21 ultra (snapdragon) and evaluating via this forum my buying the 7 Pro. On my S21U I have the Display Tester app (available in both free and "Pro" versions). The S21U also comes, out of the box, set to 1080P. However, when you look at 1080P using Display Tester you will see that the gamma of the display is out of wack. There the gamma is around 1.4 or so, leading to a somewhat washed out image. Setting it to WQHD+ (3200 x 1400) Gamma goes to 2.2, the accurate setting.
Interested if anybody wants to test this out on the 7P.
peterg21 said:
As I mentioned previously, I currently have an S21 ultra (snapdragon) and evaluating via this forum my buying the 7 Pro. On my S21U I have the Display Tester app (available in both free and "Pro" versions). The S21U also comes, out of the box, set to 1080P. However, when you look at 1080P using Display Tester you will see that the gamma of the display is out of wack. There the gamma is around 1.4 or so, leading to a somewhat washed out image. Setting it to WQHD+ (3200 x 1400) Gamma goes to 2.2, the accurate setting.
Interested if anybody wants to test this out on the 7P.
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Just tested it. Same exact results you report on the S21
peterg21 said:
As I mentioned previously, I currently have an S21 ultra (snapdragon) and evaluating via this forum my buying the 7 Pro. On my S21U I have the Display Tester app (available in both free and "Pro" versions). The S21U also comes, out of the box, set to 1080P. However, when you look at 1080P using Display Tester you will see that the gamma of the display is out of wack. There the gamma is around 1.4 or so, leading to a somewhat washed out image. Setting it to WQHD+ (3200 x 1400) Gamma goes to 2.2, the accurate setting.
Interested if anybody wants to test this out on the 7P.
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What's the main issue with this?
Paz9 said:
What's the main issue with this?
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According to my (possibly fallible eyes), it’s 1.4 @ 1080 and between 2.2 and 2.3 at 1440.
RebDovid said:
According to my (possibly fallible eyes), it’s 1.4 @ 1080 and between 2.2 and 2.3 at 1440.
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How is that a bad thing exactly?
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How is that a bad thing exactly?
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Here are a couple of links which explain Gamma and why it is important:
The Main Reason Monitor Calibration Is Essential
Gamma is used in digital photography to determine the image's brightness and is important to understand.
www.lifewire.com
The importance of gamma
"Gamma" has to do with how a display translates input signal levels into the intensity of output light. We show you how to understand the relationship.
www.androidauthority.com
This should be tested in both 60hz and Adaptive/120hz mode as the calibration between different refreshrates can differ.

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