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I have been told I need to do a "Factory Data Reset" to a) clear out phantom crap-data from my built-in storage (now at 4% free space), and b) stop my phone from random double SMS posts.
I see several Market options for backup but none look very appealing nor do they guarantee to backup everything. Several require your phone to be rooted (mine isn't). Free apps don't backup everything and paid apps only back up the the SD Card but mine is nearly full.
Some on this forum say they can do it all by hand but I have no idea how.
Can't I just plug it into my laptop and move the files over?
This is my first Android phone and I would like to eventually ROOT the phone but I am not there yet. Perhaps this is the next step towards being comfortable doing that.
Some Market Apps, like MyBackup Pro, will back up to the "cloud" but at a price: MyBackup Pro comes with 50MB of free cloud storage, which you can upgrade to 250MB for $1 per month or 1GB for $2 per month.
ncmacasl said:
I have been told I need to do a "Factory Data Reset" to a) clear out phantom crap-data from my built-in storage (now at 4% free space), and b) stop my phone from random double SMS posts.
I see several Market options for backup but none look very appealing nor do they guarantee to backup everything. Free apps don't backup everything and paid apps only back up the the SD Card but mine is nearly full.
Some on this forum say they can do it all by hand but I have no idea how.
Can't I just plug it into my laptop and move the files over?
This is my first Android phone and I would like to eventually ROOT the phone but I am not there yet. Perhaps this is the next step towards being comfortable doing that.
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titanium backup pro works very well
tylermaciaszek said:
titanium backup pro works very well
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But doesn't that only work for ROOTED phones?
ncmacasl said:
But doesn't that only work for ROOTED phones?
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thats right sorry forgot you werent rooted
try this vv
http://free-mobile-messenger.com/2011/03/09/backup-everything-1-0-apk/
And that app only saves to the SD card. Mine is FULL
Where do you want to save it to? anywhere but the sdcard will be wiped in any sort of flashing, making it a useless backup. the only logical place to backup your data is your sdcard, and then copying that backup to your computer.
How do I safely move stuff off the SD Card to make more room for the backup?How much room will the backup take? Does the backup only backup the Phone storage or also the SD Storage? (FYI, I have Astro File Manager)
Backing up the sdcard would be an oxymoron, as trying to backup your sdcard to your sdcard would never work, that would be like trying to make 1 + something try to be less than 1. You can plug your phone in as a Mass Storage Device, which will use your phone essentially as a flash drive, and you can add or delete as you please. If you're worried about deleting something, copy it to your computer rather than deleting it outright. Backing up should take about 500 MB if you're using Nandroid, but you're not rooted, and I'm not familiar with the posted backup. Backing up without rooting is very difficult
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...Backing up without rooting is very difficult
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Yeah that is why I am posting. many of us non-root-ers want to be able to do this, and also, aren't you supposed to backup your system BEFORE you attempt to ROOT? How does everyone else do it??
OK So I Sideload everything from the SD Card to the laptop, then delete everything from the SD Card, then backup the phone storage stuff to the SD Card, then move THAT File/folder to the laptop.
Is that right??
Rooting is non-invasive, I've never backed up before rooting. Rooting just edits permissions on one file, which no non-rooted backup app can backup anyways.
If you wanted to backup that way, then yes, that would work, but if you're looking to backup before you root, I would say don't even bother, as it will not backup the phone system anyways, as no non-rooted app can do that.
If rooting is so "non-invasive" then why do you read so many warnings that if you don't do it **JUST RIGHT** you can totally BRICK your phone??
Also what do you mean by "not backup the phone system"?
Rooting can't brick your phone, flashing kernels and bootloaders can. The actual phone files, the operating system files, cannot be backed up by a non-rooted phone, as they are privileged. Rooting only installs the SuperUser.apk to manage super user rights, as well as changing the privileges on the system's super user binary so that you as a user can use it. all that to say, it's not a big deal to root, but what you do once you get root is what can cause issues. And if you brick yourself, no backup is going to help you, as by definition, bricking is beyond repair.
I made a previous clean backup prior to rooting the phone using the Odin method posted by Copperhed. Still running the stock at&t rom.
All was well. I moved the backup file over to my computer hd to free up space on my external sd card. I was tinkering around with different sd cards last night and accidentally formatted my main sd card that I usually use on my phone. No big deal.
I decided to try out some new roms and kernels so I wanted to make a nandroid backup. Instead of using the odin method to install cwm, I downloaded rom manager and flashed clockworkmod recovery.
I formatted the sd card to make sure space wasnt an issue. I clicked on Backup Current ROM, it was given superuser access and the phone rebooted into CWM. I thought this part was automated but it wasnt. Once the phone booted into CWM, it just sat there at the menu system.
No problems, I navigated down to backup and restore, then hit backup. I did some google searching and people have said this version (5.0.2.7) of CWM does not show a progress bar while backing up.
After clicking backup, I get the usual screen of it mounting the card and displaying how much space is free, then saying it is backing up boot image, recovery image, and system.
Takes a long while then just gives me this:
Error while making a backup image of /system!
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Any idea of why this would be happening? I searched around but did not find any solutions. The only core things I have installed on my phone currently is Titanium Backup Pro and SetCPU. The rest are just day to day apps, todolists, camera, games.
I've attached what it looked like below. In case the attachment doesnt work (http://i.imgur.com/2ZIPM.jpg)
Forgot to mention, after rebooting the phone when I get that error, I check the external sd card and see a backup folder, but there are only about 3 files in there, so it makes sense because it failed making a full backup.
I just now tried "back up to internal sd card" and it started working right away.. showing files and progress bar moving.
I guess this works too, I can still move the backup file over to my pc.. but this kind of worries me.. is CWM not seeing my sd card correctly?
Another update..
At the end of the backup run (to internal sd card) I get:
No sd-ext found. Skipping backup of sd-ext.
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When I mentioned formatting the card earlier, I used the phone itself to format it.
I think it has something to do with the variance between the T-Mobile version of CWM we are using on our Skyrockets and what should actually be on the CWM version for the Skyrocket (which still doesn't exist--wtf?! )
Disregard the error message, it's looking for a folder on the T-Mobile version that isn't on the Skyrocket.
If you used the "Backup to Internal SD Card" from CWM you should be fine. I've backed up this way and restored backups without incident.
so if your phone went through a soft brick or something bad happened messing with different roms and such, youre still able to boot into cwm and restore from the backup file that is stored on your internal sd?
i just want to make sure, in the case that we cannot boot from cwm / access internal sd, that we will be able to do so from the external sd.
I don't have a whole lot of faith in our CWM (which was built for a T Mobile variant). I've had a ton of weird messages any time using it and I'm surprised there isn't more talk about it here. I've seen a lot people casually mention the error messages so I know it isn't just me.
I don't know you'd lose the backup if restoring from a soft brick where you'd have to go back to stock first to fix it (never tried it). But I can tell you that if you flash a rom you don't like or doesn't work right you should be able to successfuly restore a backup made in CWM (after wiping data, etc., of course).
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All you have to do is install the rom you had when you made the backup for the data going to the advanced options in backup recovery and restore data only and ready
understood. but in the case that the phone does mess up and for some reason it doesnt read the external sd card, would i still be able to access the internal sd card for my backup with cwm?
Just got my G2SR from ATT. Going through the motion of rooting it following instruction here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340526
I also tried to do a backup to external SD and get the same "Error while making a backup image of /system"
I searched around and I tried the instruction here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472954 by adding clockworkmod/.hidenandroidprogress in both /sdcard and /sdcard/external_sd/
It's still stuck in "backing up system". I have tried reformatting the SD card and perform error checkin on Windows, but that doesn't fix it.
Has anybody back up to the external SD card with CWM successfully?
And how exactly do we back up to the internal "/sdcard". When I go backup, it would complain I don't have an sdcard if I don't have the external SD card.
[update] I am on ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.6 and I don't see any "backup to internal SD' option. Do I need to update my CWM and how do we do that?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry, its a bit of a novel, but wanted to give as much detail as possible.
I have a rooted LG P500 running cm7, with a partitioned SD card.
Today the apps on the SD card have stopped showing. The only thing I have done different today is uninstall update on play store as I was having some issues with it, I believe the apps were briefly there after this, and also it has now updated itself from market back to play store and things are still wrong, so I don't think this is the issue.
They are not showing at all in the app drawer, the ones I have shortcuts to in that bit down the bottom (don't know what its called sorry) have a green and white square android icon, and do nothing if touched. If I go into "settings", "applications", "storage use", then "SD card", it accurately shows the amount of storage I have left on the SD card, so its not like its not picking it up at all, but everything in the list that is on the SD card has a grey icon by it instead of the proper picture. Actually scrolling through the list right now, I can see the majority have the grey icon, but there is a couple with their normal icon. Some of those with the normal icon show up in my app drawer, and some don't, so its actually affecting the apps to varying degrees rather than them all not working.
If I try move anything new to the SD card it says "failed to move application"
If I go into "my apps" on play store, it is impossible to compare them all, but at least some are missing.
I have tryed each of the following several times:
Reboot
Unmount and remount SD card
Reinsert battery
The latest time I rebooted I noticed that now although all the apps are not loading still, some of the ones that did are different ones to last time.
Any ideas?
Thanks
The next thing I have tryed is I formatted the FAT32 partition and put on a back up of the SD card I made a couple of weeks ago, it made no difference.
I would like to format both the FAT32 and EXT2 partitions and repartition and start completely over again, but not sure how to do this, can't see the EXT2 partition in easeus.
ETA : I managed to get rid of the partion, format the whole card to fat32 then partition again, then put my SD card back up from a couple of weeks ago back on, and still the same problem! I am out of ideas, any help would be greatly appreciated.
obsidianwings said:
The next thing I have tryed is I formatted the FAT32 partition and put on a back up of the SD card I made a couple of weeks ago, it made no difference.
I would like to format both the FAT32 and EXT2 partitions and repartition and start completely over again, but not sure how to do this, can't see the EXT2 partition in easeus.
ETA : I managed to get rid of the partion, format the whole card to fat32 then partition again, then put my SD card back up from a couple of weeks ago back on, and still the same problem! I am out of ideas, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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what happens when you install a new app? Does it show up in app drawer? Also did you have any backup of the apps using Titanium backup?
Try some other application.. a2sd, s2e, link2sd.
Also make a swap partition.
It won't let me install any new apps, I have backups but it won't let me create anymore, it lets me restore some, but not all.
What I did with the sd card last night really screwed things up, I ended up having to go back to a nandroid. File manager is saying the sd card is empty, and I am having trouble using usb storage connected to computer, so I think I have really stuffed things.
I am going to try any ideas including the above on tonight, but if I can't fix I might just unroot, factory reset and sell the phone, go back to a text and call cheapy, i've had a lot of problems with this, although all others I have been able to fix, but most seem to come down to the fact i'm pushing apps to sd because of low internal storage, might be better off waiting to get android until I can afford a better phone.
Anyhow, i'm willing to spend another night trying to fix this, so any ideas appreaciated. Thanks
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Update, I got USB storage turned on, my computer says sd is corrupted or unreadable. Is this fixable? Thanks
Another update, when I turned off USB storage my phone also told me the card was corrupted and gave me the option to format it,, so I formatted it through the phone this time, windows is now recognising it and I am transfering back an old backup onto it, I will come back and update if it works so noone has to waste their time helping me, if I don't come back it didn't work and I will be back to try to fix the problem tonight. Thanks
Update: I am now back to a similar position as I was in at the beginning of the thread. WHen I get home I am going to reinstall the darktremor scripts as the nandroid I went to didn't have that by the looks, then hopefully once I can start utilising the EXT partition again I will be able to restore from ti backup. I'm not holding my breath though as I couldn't do this earlier on.
I know I said I wouldn't be doing it till tonight but I really wanted to get this fixed so I have been messing around with it all morning. Had all kinds of problems, but have finally got sd card partitioned, not corrupted, and both partitions recognised as they should be. My apps are still not there, however play store is letting me install now, so I am redownloading them. Titanium back up is saying there is no backups of anything, and it can't find any profiles, however as I am redownloading apps all the data that should be there is there, so yay. I will sit down tonight and spend alot of time redownloading everything, then I will make new backup with titanium. I just hope once I have done it all the apps stay there this time LOL. Thanks for the help, I will be back if it doesn't all go as planned.
ETA: Never mind I need help again already. After redownloading just a couple of apps I decided to check that ti backup would do a backup, it won't do even a single backup because of unsufficient storage space, however I have 7.4gb free on sd, 125mb free on internal and 259mb on sd-ext, why isn't there enough room?
If it helps, on my SD card there is a folder called "backups", with a folder called "apps" in it which is full of .apk file from apps i've download, and I also have a "Titanium backup" folder with properties and GZ files in it. I'm definitely not going to do anymore until tonight as I have no idea what to do now that ti backup won't restore or backup.
That backup folder is of astro file manager backup. Titanium backup is always buggy specially after you "patch it".
Best option. Delete all partitions.. format (not quick) your sdcard if possible from pc. Reflash the current rom ( make sms call bookmark and all sort of backup).. do complete wipe. Start from beginning. Fresh phone would do good!! Try some other apps too.. link2sd and s2e are good!!
Edit: Dont move ti backup to sd.. let it be in internal memory!!
had happened to me once. The SD ext becomes corrupted if my mistake the a2sd script gets deleted. u have to then reflash ur rom and script to get it working again. b4 that wipe ur SD card and partition it again. And use gobackup to backup and restore apps. it's simple and stable.
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Use this app2sd. Its better
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Thanks, as in my last post I did eventually get the sd card working after a few formats and repartitioning, I was having trouble with titanium backup no recognising any backups, but as I was reinstalling things that suddenly fixed itself (no idea why) so I was able to restore my backups.
The a2sd script did get deleted, but not until after I was already having problems and had to go back to a nandroid, it was the nandroid I took before originally partitioning the card so the script wasn't there, which probably didn't help things!
My ti backup is on SD, so I will move it back to the phone thanks.
Alls well that ends well, but got stressful there for a while! Had a few issues before, but none that took as long to solve as this one. I am on the lookout for a bargain on a phone that has bigger internal memory, but glad to get this working again in the meantime. Thanks everyone.
ETA: Also I did solve the problem with titanium backup saying there was no room to backup, so everything is working perfectly now. Unfortunately I can't for the life of me remember how I did it, but if I do I will come back here and post it in case anyone else has the same problem in the future.
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Thanks, as in my last post I did eventually get the sd card working after a few formats and repartitioning, I was having trouble with titanium backup no recognising any backups, but as I was reinstalling things that suddenly fixed itself (no idea why) so I was able to restore my backups.
The a2sd script did get deleted, but not until after I was already having problems and had to go back to a nandroid, it was the nandroid I took before originally partitioning the card so the script wasn't there, which probably didn't help things!
My ti backup is on SD, so I will move it back to the phone thanks.
Alls well that ends well, but got stressful there for a while! Had a few issues before, but none that took as long to solve as this one. I am on the lookout for a bargain on a phone that has bigger internal memory, but glad to get this working again in the meantime. Thanks everyone.
ETA: Also I did solve the problem with titanium backup saying there was no room to backup, so everything is working perfectly now. Unfortunately I can't for the life of me remember how I did it, but if I do I will come back here and post it in case anyone else has the same problem in the future.
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I'm happy that u solved ur prob. cheers
Hi guys
I don't know if this issue has been already solved or not but I checked some threads and did not find an answer.
I had a stock ROM (4.2) and wanted to go for a kitkat version. I backed up with titanium backup. data was backed in external SD.
When I installed the new ROM, TB did not find any backup as it searched only in the internal memory not the SD. I said whatever, I had a fresh start in the games and used the other apps as if they were never used before.
Now I found an improved ROM and installed it. the backup obviously was made in the internal memory but the problem is that the new ROM looks for SD card.
I am kind of confused. I restored my old data, which are now obsolete for me as I moved on since the first ROM upgrade.
Now I want to recover my recent data which is in the internal memory and not the SD.
I tried changing the backup folder from preferences but it did not solve the issue.
Hope you can help, it would be much appreciated.
EDIT: I updated TWRP, wiped everything (including data/media) and restored a backup. I was able to get a successful backup. However, apps still crashing randomly. Does anyone know how to check for memory errors and repartition to use only good space?
Original Q:
I have installed Markox89 Dhollmann (sp?) ROM clean and bare (only Google play) and it's crashing. I am now also unable to do a nandroid backup in TWRP. I'm thinking I might have corrupted hardware. Does anyone know how to check/diagnose issues like this? It's not just my external SD card. I can't backup to internal SD card either.
I think I have a 2 year warranty that's almost expired (a quick point to instructions for returning to stock for return would be welcome).
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