Hello, everyone‼:laugh:
Thank you for reading this.
Almost any phone of today has a Slow-Motion / High-Framerate feature.
Well, i've got nothing agianst it but there's something about it that truly sucks.
Here's my old thread about this.
The Bad method:
You Record: 00H:00M:10s@240fps (Resolution doesn't matter)
You get a Video with 80 Seconds @ 30fps
...and Muted Audio ♫♪
So that â–şx1.0 isn't realtime!
Well, the iPhones record in realtime, but they can only record for 20 Seconds (real time equilevant)
kryz70fr said:
With the iPhone 5S camera software, you can edit your video to active slowmotion or not on the timeline ... how to do this with the Note 3?
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Yes, you're right!
...but the Smartphones which use the sucking method of taking Slow-Motion Videos encode the output file being Slown Down.
The one and only advantage of this method, is for Media-Players which haven't got a Fast/Slow motion playback mode so that â–şx1.0 makes the Slow Motion Effect Visible.
But i'd like to have â–şx1.0 is Realtime-Equivalent!
So the Correct way in my opinion [IMO] is this:
If you Record 00:00:[email protected]
The Output File must be also 00:00:10 encoded at 204FPS and with ♪♫ Audio from ALL Microphones of the Phone!
Also some other Devices use the WRONG Method:
Lumix FƵ1000 - Great Camera but Slow Motion Feature uses WRONG WAY.
Canon IXUS 255 HS
But those Devices use a Good Method!
Sony RX100/3
Canon Powershot 510HS and 50HS
Sony FDR-AX100
Samsung NX1 (i think)
Example Videos ? :
Good
Only 720p BUT
XAVCS
And Audio
And Realtime
BAD
1080p but...
No XAVCS
Not Realtime
Muted Audio
Sucks
All Example Videos are taken by DKamera.dé!
Feel free posting your opinion! :laugh:
All the best Have a good and nice day ...
High Framerate Recording
Has anybody an Opinion about this?
There are many users who want Audio on Slow-Motion.
That, what i described there ↑↑↑, also covers this.
I'd be thankful for some feedback on my suggestion.
It's also nice, if every media player in the world has following features:
Speed Up / Slow Down
If adjust speed, enable/disable adjusting Sound Pitch
...so that 120FPS with output file encoded to 30FPS and muted sound is not there anymore
With â–şx1.0 i mean Original Playback Speed of the Output File.
I'd always like to have 1.0x Playback Speed being Realtime-equivalent and Sound from every microphone that the device has (not just 2), independent from the Video's Framarate . (And no time limit until the Deices Battery/Storage runs out)
Example: Samsung's Galaxy Note 3 and Note 4 have 3 Microphones. But they do only use them all for the Sound-Memo and only 2 for video recording. They also record Slow-Motion the wrong way
Feel free giving your Feedback
Slow Motion - Redefined :·) (•:
I'd always like the Output file being always RealTime â–şx1.0
That means, that i'd always like to get an Output File to be Real-Time-equivalent at x1.0 Playback Speed.
â–ş1.0 to be Real Time Speed
And surely Audio from all Microphones of the device
(In FLAC Format, 1.6 Mbit/S )
(See Video04.Mp4âś”)
Just like [email protected]
If i record 00:00:[email protected] then i'd also like to have an output file with 0:00:[email protected]FPS with sound.
...and not 00:00:[email protected]FPS without sound.
It feels like Recording REAL [email protected]FPS, i don't know how to explain.
Just like normal Video Recording but with a Higher Framerate - not additionally encoded to be slown down so that Original â–şx1.0 Playback Speed is 0.25x Real Time Speed or 0.125x.
And also see this
Scroll down to see what i mean.
GSMArena Blog said:
The slow motion clips might look cool on your iPhone, but they look quite disappointing on a TV or a monitor. Which reminds us of our other disappointment about the feature – when we tried to play those iPhone 5s slo-mo videos on a PC we found that unlike all previous slow motion-capable smartphones, the iPhone 5s actually encodes the video at 120 fps and your computer will play it on 120fps unless you explicitly force it to slow the video four times in order to achieve the desired slow-motion effect. It would have been way more natural the iPhone 5s to process the frames and output a standard 30fps video as most of the phones do, which doesn’t require special players and tools to play properly.
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They've got another Opinion. But their described opinion is caused by the only advantage of the sucking way to take Slow-Motion Videos.
Here’s hoping Apple fixes this promptly with an update – it certainly can’t be that hard.
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I hope not so lol
Sensor output / Output File
The Output File should have the same framerate, as the Sensor is Capturing.
(Exceptionally HDR-Video. HDR Video needs a Higher Framerate/Sensor Speed but the Outputfile is still Realtime at â–şx1.0 )
ď´ľFrom my Old Threadď´ż:
celderic said:
Suprised this hasn't been mentioned before, this will be very useful.
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Wow, really? Not mentioned befre?
But yes, it will be very useful :laugh:
Many Smartphone Manufacturers write in their User Manuals, that Slow Motion Recording with Audio {Sound} Recording is not possible.
So why don't manufacturers simply use the method for Slow Motion Videos that i Described?
Maybe it's just because of the „One and Only advantge of the Sucking way to take Slow Motion Videos:“
Not every player has an Adjustable Playback Speed--.....
The Galaxy K Ƶooom has also a Menu Option for PlayBack Speed for the Ouptut File.
But you only can use the 120FPS-Mode @ ÂĽ or â…› Speed for Output File, but i'd prefer it always to be x1.
I'd like 1x Playback Speed to be Real-Time Equilevant.
Accordingly, Every Player should have a Manually Settable Playback Speed, Sound Pinch, Reverse and Recording Feature.
VLC Media Player has Âľ it all - exceptionally the Reverseâ—„ Playback Feature.
If manufacturers fix this slow motion problem, have fun
Optical Flow / If you really want... / Video Converting,, Video Converters, Applicato
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/slopro-1000fps-slow-motion/id507232505?mt=8
This iOS-App uses Optical Flow.
I hope this app also uses ?▶► Real Slow Motion...
If you REALLY want the Output file to be not â–ş1.o Realtime, then you can convert it after recording it into a second file.
There are Programs to do that.
Most Famous: AVS Video Converter
Most User-Friendly and Free: FreeMake Price: €0.00
Have Fun/NiceDay/ All the best ♥:laugh:
Correction :
Correctiõn:
The NX1 also uses the Wrong way.
http://www.dkamera.de/media/testberichte/samsung/nx1/6_beispielaufnahmen/video/video04.MP4
DKamera™
There's a very high Request on Slow Motion-Audio and being able to adjust the Playback Speed in the Media Player.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4/464112-slow-motion-video-sound.html
I also don't understand, why manufacturers use the Way for taking Slow Motion Videos that i mentioned, because the other frequent way sucks.
Isn't there an app, which can record slow-motion videos the way i mentioned?
However, the iPhones only use Mono-Audio for any kind of Video-Recording. Horrible.
Sony:
Their Cameras (RX100 and FDR-AX100E etc.) record slow Motion the Proper Way. Congratiulations!
But their Smartphones only allow editing before saving - once saved, you can't adjust any speeds anymore.
Canon:
Newer models like SX50 HS and 510 HS use the right way - even for 240 fps - no specific time limit!. Respect!
But the beautiful SX255 HS also sucks recording them - 120 and 240 fps. And there's a limit of 20 Seconds (in Real-Time.)
Conclusion:
There are many - also free Video-Editing Programs for adjust the speed and Sound-Pitch (Pitchbend) of vidéos - so there's (almost) no reason for the (i call it the sucking way) of recording slow motion videos. (Only reason is the missing Playback Speed Pitch in many Media Players. S5+ aka S5 LTE A had it - from x0.5 up to x1.5 Playback Speed - even for 4k-Videos up to 61.2 mBit/s Bitrate!)
And also - setting playback is a small additional step before enjoying the Motion but if this step is too much, you're lazy.
Concluson
I wanted to send (post) this message 20 Minutes before already - but i forgot to press the Sumbit-Button :laugh:
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Galaxy S6
Finally Samsung did it:
I'm rather disappointed from the S6 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3044369 )
but finally, the Galaxy S6 does the RIGHT WAY of Slow Motion Recording.
Thanks god!!!!!!
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Finally, in Slow motion mode the camera goes back up to 48Mbps but is now shooting 720p @ 120fps. Videos are actually recorded at 120fps, but you can edit them on the phone - trim beginning and end and choose between half, quarter and eighth playback speed. Here's how it looks when we drop to 30fps (playing at a quarter of real time speed).
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I hope the Slow Motion also includes Audio.
Confirmed:
The S6 records Slow Motion WITH Audio and Realtime - like iPhone and SX50 and 510 HS and also RX100m3 (aka RX100 III)
GSMAréna
I was reading a Review on GSMArena.
Then i saw this:
A note about formats - the iPhone records and saves 720p videos with 240fps framerate so you'll need to either edit them on the phone to create the slowdown effect or use a video editor on your computer, just copying them would only get you an extra smooth normal speed video. The Galaxy Alpha videos are slowed down to 30fps so the slow motion is easy to share. There's an option to slow the videos down to 15fps, which matches the iPhones 8x slowdown but the result isn't as smooth
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With the Galaxy S6, Samsung finally goes the Right way, because you can Export a Version of your Video, that is actually Edited and Costumized yourself, to share or so...
It's always recomennded to keep the Original Slow Motion Video File with the Audio and the Real-Time.
The Galaxy S6 has no MicroSD-Card, no Changable battery, etc........
But in Slow Motion, the Galaxy S6 is finally the right thing.
I mentioned the Galaxy S6-Disadvantages right here.
The FDR-AX100E also uses the right way.
Hannah Stern said:
I was reading a Review on GSMArena.
Then i saw this:
With the Galaxy S6, Samsung finally goes the Right way, because you can Export a Version of your Video, that is actually Edited and Costumized yourself, to share or so...
It's always recomennded to keep the Original Slow Motion Video File with the Audio and the Real-Time.
The Galaxy S6 has no MicroSD-Card, no Changable battery, etc........
But in Slow Motion, the Galaxy S6 is finally the right thing.
I mentioned the Galaxy S6-Disadvantages right here.
The FDR-AX100E also uses the right way.
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The Exporting Feature in the Video editor isn't even at the iPhones.
I wish, Samsung already did this with a good phone like the Note 3 or so...
Wow, look at that:
http://hispeedcams.com/fz1000-crippled-high-speed-mode/
Slo-Mo-Calculator
Asks me for Desired Playback Speed? Lol....
Hannah said:
"Playback-Framerate" should be like "Shooting Frame Rate"
and "Time shot in Seconds" should be exactly identical as "Clip Playback Time"
And also, all Microphones should be used, to record the video.
Understand, what i mean?
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For Galaxy S6 users (very rare):
Too bad, that so many older phones cam't set the playback speed in the mediaplayer, so if there's trouble, sharing your high-framerate-videos, you can edit the parts with the lower playback speed and export the shareable video, and keep the original real-time HFR Clip.
That's exactly, what i wish, every manufactueres do.
Simply make a Video Editor and Set Playback Speed, instead of recording the HFR Video the wrong "sucking" way.....
Hannah Stern said:
Well, the iPhones record in realtime, but they can only record for 20 Seconds (real time equilevant)
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Oops, that was a Demo-Unit.....
LG G3, G4 and Oppo Find 7 also apply with my standards.
Doesn't the VLC beta have the slow down / speed up controls
VLC Media Player - Speed Controls
Kevingoot1 said:
Doesn't the VLC beta have the slow down / speed up controls
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Maybe it's just because of the New Design. In the Extras (or Tools) you can costumize the VLC-Design/User Interface or go to the Playback-Menu.
Try with this file:
http://www.dkamera.de/media/testber...100-iii/6_beispielaufnahmen/video/video05.MP4
This Video File does comply with the Standards.
Treat like normal
I just like this type of recording the videos at a high framerate, because it treats Video Recording with a high fromerate as normal video recording. Just with a higher framerate.
Many devices have the ability to treat 1080p with 60 fps as normal video recording.
I was wondering if there's a posibility to record in slow-mo with my K900...
Hi.
so after the update, I no longer have the 4k viewing option. only full HD. is this normal ?
How do I get it back ?
Thanks
4k is still there. It is removed, however, for 4k HDR content due to an issue with the app.
For normal non HDR videos 4K is still there. But videos with HDR is now limited to 1080p due to performance issues with pretty much every device: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/04/hdr-youtube-app-now-maxes-1080p/
Shame they don't offer an option to just watch the non-HDR version instead.
Use og YouTube
I bought this phone because of Chris from Tech tablet showing how smooth it was on 4k. Chris was using the China version of the phone. However after buying the phone, I could NEVER get 4k EIS to work because the Open camera app keeps crashing, so I gave up. Today, after doing some research, I looked at youtube videos showing Note 5 Pro 4k EIS were from July 2018 and earlier. Those Indians were using the global version of the phone. That made me wonder if it is related to firmware.
Turns out, you need to be on MIUI 9. The camera settings were changed on MIUI 10 so 4k EIS stopped working.
Here are the steps to make it work:
1) Downgrade/upgrade to 9.5.7.0 Global firmware. It is the last build of MIUI 9 without antirollback. https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/index-everything-anti-roll-t3816219
2) Download open camera. do not enable hal 3 in build.prop.
3) Choose 4k under video settings, 40mbps bit rate ( higher will cause apl to crash because it only supports 42mbps), h264 format (HEVC Doesnt work). set 24fps. any faster sd636 unable to stabilize
4) Under more camera controls, Use Storage access framework
Now if you record video, wait 2-3 seconds lag before it starts recording. 4k EIS works! Since cropping from 12MP to 8MP there is less area compared to 2MP for 1080p videos, the stabilization is not as great compared to fullHD stabilization
Reserved for video samples.....
This mod is possibly only for the S7 Exynos. I don't have access to a Snapdragon S7, but the camera profile I worked form states that it only works on the Exynos version...
Hey hey S7 Users! Ever since getting my hands on an S7 Edge last year I’ve drooled over the Zero Camera Mod 4K HDR capability. I used to root my handsets the second I received them, but honestly, these days I can’t be bothered.
Anywho, long story short, I was recently hunting for S7 Mods and stumbled upon the Snap Camera 4K 60fps mod. It works brilliantly, btw! While messing around with the profile settings within Snap Camera I found I was able to enable HDR video recording at 4K 30fps!!!
I’ve included a link to a quick comparison video I made comparing 4K video shot using the stock Samsung camera app and 4K HDR video shot using the “Snap Camera HDR” app from the PlayStore with a custom profile.
I’ve also included links to the original video I found explaining the Snap Camera 4K 60fps mod, and a link to my custom profile, which is based on the 60fps mod profile.
To load the profile just download the “snap_settings.bin” and place it in the root of your storage. Load up Snap Camera and head to the “Other” menu in settings. Select “Load Settings” and enjoy 4K HDR!
Comparison of Standard S7 4K vs 4K HDR: https://youtu.be/IzPoJ57Y7vM
My 4K HDR Settings File: https://www.filedropper.com/snapsettings
Original Snap Camera 4K 60fps Video: https://youtu.be/E3nN9xZlreM
Can you upload the file again? The link has expired again, or at least send it to me some how, i couldn't get the file anywhere.
any chance you could re upload the settings file? the link is dead.
Hi, I have a Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G (codename: VEUX, verified using adb) Indonesia version (model: 2201116SG). Right now I'm using Evolution X ver 7.3 (build Nov 20, 2022). Before, I'm using stock MIUI Global 13.0.2.0 (RKCIDXM). I posted this thread to present my findings about this phone, and hopefully find a fix.
I was trying to find a suitable GCam port for this phone, but ONLY Arnova8G2's ver 8.4.300 GCam port that works in this phone. All other ports will crash or show black screen when using Video recording mode. However, photo mode works just fine in all GCam ports. I can even add auxiliary cameras and enable the tele/macro and ultrawide lens. The problem reappears, however, when I enable aux cam in Arnova8G2's GCam port. The app keeps crashing when I switch to video mode, and I need to clear app data and cache to get it working again.
I've also installed Open Camera by Mark Harman, and tried to record 1920x1080 video, but it says "Failed to record video". The highest resolution I can get is 1600x900. Lowering the FPS didn't help, It says "Sorry, frame rate not supported on your device".
Playing 1920x1080 videos (whether 30 or 60fps) worked just fine using Google Photos. If the resolution is higher than that, then Google Photos and any media player will refuse to play it. The highest video resolution I can play is 1080x2040, even a 1080x2400 video (same resolution as the display) results in the same error.
I haven't tried recording and playing 1080p videos back in stock MIUI, but judging from the Live Wallpaper Bug Thread (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/dynamic-wallpaper-mi-video-bugs.4439695/), the problem might persist in stock ROM.
I know that the Snapdragon 695 SoC has a hardware limitation of recording video up to [email protected] But, this thing was like "GIVE ME A VIDEO THAT IS EXACTLY 1080x2040, OR ELSE. AND DON'T EVEN THINK TO RECORD AT 1080p!!". I still have my old Redmi S2 (codename: YSL), and just for reference, I tried installing one of the GCam port file that I've used in this phone. Guess what, the Arnova8G2 version didn't work, but other GCam port works perfectly. I installed BSG 8.1 GV2b in Redmi S2, and managed to record [email protected], although it crashed in like 3 seconds. Playing a 1920x1080 30fps video (a much higher resolution than the 720p display that the Redmi S2 has) using Google Photos also works, although as expected, the video is very choppy.
So, In conclusion, the Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G is picky about what video to play and record. This might be a hardware problem, because it persist even in different ROMs. If this really is a hardware problem, then It's kinda suck, 'cause I need to record important video occasionally. Oh well, I'll need to use other tricks just for recording video then. I wanna hear what you guys thought about this though.
We been struggling with this since this phone came out, but i been playing videos up to 4k on mx player without a problem
still no solution to record 4k tho
Is a hardware limitation from the snapdragon processor. There is no way of make 4K recording in this device.
4K playback is fine.
Aw bummer. Welp, on the bright side, I've finally managed to find a perfect GCam, It's BSG's GCam MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1zfix_MGC. Everything works, including video recording up to [email protected], front camera works, slow motion, etc.