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[Q] [HELP] Moto G slower after rooting

I've recently rooted my XT-1032 (telcel) and ever since the phone has been a lot slower than usual. I'm still new to motorola devices. I've rooted other devices before but I can't recall this ever happening. Does anyone have a fix for this? A nice explanation would be awesome. Thanks for everything

Pajaro_Azul said:
I've recently rooted my XT-1032 (telcel) and ever since the phone has been a lot slower than usual. I'm still new to motorola devices. I've rooted other devices before but I can't recall this ever happening. Does anyone have a fix for this? A nice explanation would be awesome. Thanks for everything
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Root is just a change in file permissions, it doesn't "do" anything extra that would slow the system down I will recommend you to uninstall any task manager or task killer app ex. clean master or advance task killer, you can also try by denying the root permission to the previously give apps, or even if things not work try to disable superuser....
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Pajaro_Azul said:
I've recently rooted my XT-1032 (telcel) and ever since the phone has been a lot slower than usual. I'm still new to motorola devices. I've rooted other devices before but I can't recall this ever happening. Does anyone have a fix for this? A nice explanation would be awesome. Thanks for everything
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Just rooting your phone should not slow it down at all. If you've downloaded rooted apps, or flash custom ROMs, and kernels, then obviously those could be suspected culprits for slowing down your device.
Another possibility, maybe a file could have been randomly damaged somehow during the unlock/root process.
Maybe doing the process of flashing a new ROM could fix the issue, manually updating the newest version of Android for the phone, or restoring/converting back to stock firmware, and redo the hole process again of unlocking/rooting your Moto G.

[Q] OTA update

Hi guys.
So AT&T released a software update to my d850, and it prompts to update each time I restart device, where I have to force stop/hibernate software updater.
I'm rooted on stock KK 4.4.2 and I'm comfortable with battery life, functionality, and the overall performance of g3. So I'm hesitant about the Lollipop upgrade, as I've never really bothered flashing any ROMs since I was satisfied with my g3 experience.
So can anyone give some pros/cons they've noticed with the stock Lolipop ? Is it worth the switch?
I have a general idea of what I would need to do to update. Unroot, restore the bloatware I have removed using LGs PC suite, update and root again. Or is there a flashable zip of the update that i can just download? I hit update during first prompt and I was stuck rebooting into TWRP so i had to flash an image recovery file to get back.

Best bet is to go read on the lounge and threads related to see all different all experiences

I agree that the lounge is probably the best place for answers to determine if you feel it is worth the effort. My personal experience was that lollipop didn't bring much new. Most was minor cosmetic stuff and I feel like performance is ever so slightly smoother but this could be a placebo. If you use xposed then sticking with KK for now is the way to go. The line can explain this more. If you choose to stay on KK for now, use TiBu to freeze and clear data of the software update to prevent the phone from nagging about the update. I updated out of curiosity mostly and since the use of xposed is not a big deal for me, I stock with L.

Shaxxi said:
Hi guys.
So AT&T released a software update to my d850, and it prompts to update each time I restart device, where I have to force stop/hibernate software updater.
I'm rooted on stock KK 4.4.2 and I'm comfortable with battery life, functionality, and the overall performance of g3. So I'm hesitant about the Lollipop upgrade, as I've never really bothered flashing any ROMs since I was satisfied with my g3 experience.
So can anyone give some pros/cons they've noticed with the stock Lolipop ? Is it worth the switch?
I have a general idea of what I would need to do to update. Unroot, restore the bloatware I have removed using LGs PC suite, update and root again. Or is there a flashable zip of the update that i can just download? I hit update during first prompt and I was stuck rebooting into TWRP so i had to flash an image recovery file to get back.
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And there are stock roms in the forums, just flash a stock (lp) ROM done. If you don't like flash back to a backup of kk
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Why I don't receive update to lolipop on my D850?
If connect to pc says ...no update availible,have stock 4.4.2 and same message if try to OTA.
My phone is AT&T factory unlocked and live in Europe(Romania).
What can I do?
Thanks

adilau said:
Why I don't receive update to lolipop on my D850?
If connect to pc says ...no update availible,have stock 4.4.2 and same message if try to OTA.
My phone is AT&T factory unlocked and live in Europe(Romania).
What can I do?
Thanks
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you have to be on the at&t network to receive updates from them

Another way without root?
Trimis de pe G3

I just bought my phone and Im on Tmobile, do you know how do I upgrade to lollipop?
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Rooting PK1 and unlimited Tmobile Hotspot

I' m hoping some experts can chime in.
I rooted PK1 about 10 days ago. Followed the Verizon S7 forum that had clear instructions, and used the v15 fixes + debloater.
I made sure the governors were set to interactive.
Despite all this, my phone was extra buggy and had lag, compared to stock. It seemed to get worse with time.
Then on day 6, after root, my phone started boot-looping on the tmobile logo and vibrated.
I un-rooted back to PIA, and tmobile still seems to be monitoring hotspot use, I thought was part of the PK1 OTA.
So, my questions are:
1) are those rooted on PK1 stable, like stock? OR is there still stability issues, beyond adjusting the governors to interactive?
2) what are people using to successfully circumvent tmobiles new hotspot throttle. ( .5kbs or pay $25 per month).
xtether module in xposed, or WiFi Tether Router (root). ??
what is working?
thanks in advance !

I'm not on the PK1 firmware yet, but I just upgraded from PG1 to PIA.
As far as performance goes, I found this thread VERY helpful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...uide-fine-tuning-performance-battery-t3417804
Maybe it will serve well for you as well. As far as rooting is concerned, not too sure from personal experience, but I heard the ENG boot works with the newest firmware and I'm guessing the modified SU should work for it too.
If you would like to try reverse engineering the files yourself, maybe these guides will help out:
http://arm.ninja/2016/03/04/reverse-engineering-samsung-s6-modem/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/how-to-reverse-engineer-kernel-t3137384
http://www.fortisfio.com/extract-android-rom-for-reverse-engineering/
In regards to removing bloatware, I prefer removing apps over services because you never know when you might need a service that you accidentally removed from a previous time. Also I've been going through many cases of trial & error with removing bloatware and a few times ended up messing up other apps in the process that would force crash, but with my current setup everything seems to be working well.
If you need help with removing bloatware, there are 3 apps that really helped me out.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.piriform.ccleaner <-- Surprisingly ccleaner is awesome for the android as well as the PC.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp&hl=en <-- this is very useful as well
Another tool I found very great and you run this from your computer is Debloater: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Hope this helps. I'm trying to currently work on a way of creating custom odin flashable roms so I can optimize roms to the best of my ability and provide the community with more options as well. This is still a work in progress though. :S
EDIT:
Here is an output of my program list. It was too long for me to post directly in the message
adb shell pm list packages -f

thanks a lot!
I have read about ENG boot being an improvement as well, yet nobody is stating that it is stable as it is prior to root, just improved lag, performance and stability. I know in my experience, root, for the first time in 8 years of rooting is not worth the benefits. This is sad. Must be stable. (in addition -no roms, no nanroids, no samsung Sumsung Pay..etc..etc..) So I'm hopeful things will change soon, or will be forced away from Samsung. Tmobile privacy invasion issue, and bait-and-switch with their plans is even further less encouraging news. Imagine "unlimited" = less.... wow.

Well said, and I completely agree. I've been a BIG fan of previous Samsung models, but it seems with every new model that comes out there are less and less options for customizations. I'm currently in the process of trying to figure out how to repack tar.md5 files *properly*.
I've gotten close, but then it fails right at the very end. I'm still waiting for a response from someone hopefully with more knowledge than I, but I guess I have to be patient. Here was my thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s7/help/creating-flashable-odin-file-t3500139
Any way, I'd love to see more customization for the S7. I think it's a great phone and it has so much potential. I also love android and always felt it gave users more ability for customization as opposed to Apple. Like you, I just hate all the bloat ware and all the crap that comes on phones these days. Not only that but the markup price is ridicules. Having to pay $600+ for a phone that is "laggy" due to all the bloat on it is frustrating to say the least. This is why I'm trying to give the community more options or at least steer them in a direction to customize their devices easier. Currently despite all the various amounts of software that is provided through this community I feel like there aren't too many people that know how to properly use it.
Any who, good luck with your phone. Let us know if you figure anything out with it. Also, are there any significant advantages with the newest firmware over the PIA? I usually like to hold off from upgrading right away so that all the "kinks" get worked out first since it's difficult to downgrade afterwards.

xena499 said:
I' m hoping some experts can chime in.
I rooted PK1 about 10 days ago. Followed the Verizon S7 forum that had clear instructions, and used the v15 fixes + debloater.
I made sure the governors were set to interactive.
Despite all this, my phone was extra buggy and had lag, compared to stock. It seemed to get worse with time.
Then on day 6, after root, my phone started boot-looping on the tmobile logo and vibrated.
I un-rooted back to PIA, and tmobile still seems to be monitoring hotspot use, I thought was part of the PK1 OTA.
So, my questions are:
1) are those rooted on PK1 stable, like stock? OR is there still stability issues, beyond adjusting the governors to interactive?
2) what are people using to successfully circumvent tmobiles new hotspot throttle. ( .5kbs or pay $25 per month).
xtether module in xposed, or WiFi Tether Router (root). ??
what is working?
thanks in advance !
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I was rooted stock and I used the fixes.zip , I stopped using the debloater because my phone had issues after.

Its bootlooping because you accepted the security update popup.

You know what, that happened to me once, I forgot. What I needed to do is reflash the ENG boot file then when I got back into the phone, remove and reinstall SU. After your phone restarts, go into playstore --> you apps --> and uncheck "Auto Update" for Super User.

KillerClaw321 said:
I was rooted stock and I used the fixes.zip , I stopped using the debloater because my phone had issues after.
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thanks I tried going back to PIA and used fixes only, as the debloater might be the culprit !

I got it work now here:

@xena499 How were you able to downgrade the firmware? I tried downgrading through ODIN and it wouldn't let me.

m0d hipp¥ said:
@xena499 How were you able to downgrade the firmware? I tried downgrading through ODIN and it wouldn't let me.
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yes. If your using the firmware in the verizon rooting forum, that stumped me too. It doesn't work.
Must be PIA (sept 27) or newer. I got the firmware from here The sammobile site.
and flashed fine with odin. Then used the established root method from the Verizon forum, using only the V15 fixes and NOT the bloatware remover.
Still testing the root stability (2 days driving). Seems ok, but not as stable as stock so far, but acceptable for me. Cool, no battery drain, but have noticed some lag/ and buggy things that I'm deciding whether or not was a settling that was not apparent on stock w/o root.
In addition, when I was given this loaner phone from the N7, the store migrated all my data and apps using the built in sammy prog. I was concerned how this would affect my phones performance in the long run. 3 "upgrades"/ swaps later of the same technique of migrating apps/settings/data between different phones took it toll. So the bootloop issue earlier forced me to unroot and start fresh, without a choice.... The proper PIA flashed on my device (no root of course) was rock-sold stable for the few days I tried it.

xena499 said:
yes. If your using the firmware in the verizon rooting forum, that stumped me too. It doesn't work.
Must be PIA (sept 27) or newer. I got the firmware from here The sammobile site.
and flashed fine with odin. Then used the established root method from the Verizon forum, using only the V15 fixes and NOT the bloatware remover.
Still testing the root stability (2 days driving). Seems ok, but not as stable as stock so far, but acceptable for me. Cool, no battery drain, but have noticed some lag/ and buggy things that I'm deciding whether or not was a settling that was not apparent on stock w/o root.
In addition, when I was given this loaner phone from the N7, the store migrated all my data and apps using the built in sammy prog. I was concerned how this would affect my phones performance in the long run. 3 "upgrades"/ swaps later of the same technique of migrating apps/settings/data between different phones took it toll. So the bootloop issue earlier forced me to unroot and start fresh, without a choice.... The proper PIA flashed on my device (no root of course) was rock-sold stable for the few days I tried it.
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Thanks for the response. I have a SM-G930T and the firmware I am running currently is the " G930TUVU4APIA" stock. I just am using the ENG boot file and removed a bunch of apps myself (not using the v15 debloater or fix). Any way, the PIA firmware is still a little sluggish for me, and I was thinking of going back to "G930TUVU3APG1", but every time I try to flash it through ODIN I get an error. Something similar to "SW. REV CHECK FAIL : FUSED : 4, BINARY : 3".
And I didn't think that a verizon firmware would work on a tmboile phone? They're completely different hardware? Like GSM vs CDMA? Or am I missing something?

m0d hipp¥ said:
Thanks for the response. I have a SM-G930T and the firmware I am running currently is the " G930TUVU4APIA" stock. I just am using the ENG boot file and removed a bunch of apps myself (not using the v15 debloater or fix). Any way, the PIA firmware is still a little sluggish for me, and I was thinking of going back to "G930TUVU3APG1", but every time I try to flash it through ODIN I get an error. Something similar to "SW. REV CHECK FAIL : FUSED : 4, BINARY : 3".
And I didn't think that a verizon firmware would work on a tmboile phone? They're completely different hardware? Like GSM vs CDMA? Or am I missing something?
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NO you need the Tmobile files, available in links here, or better from the sammobile.com site i mentioned above.
I would never flash verizon firmware on a tmobile-connected phone.
In addition, are you following the verison unroot method from the verizon s7 rooting guide? the verizon root references for me were just where the best info is for all S7 people, but the software links are to older firmware that didnt work...
Basically, you are using odin to flash ALL files at once (ie AP, BL, CP, CPC), then you are back at tmobile stock as per date of package used (PIA, PG1..etc).
Earlier versions before PIA do not flash, for me. I believe this is b/c i took an OTA security update that did something to prevent this. PIA worked fine for me, and is working not bad.
I'm satisfied for now, and I will wait for stable Nougat before anything else, and done with customizing and playing.
I hope this helps you

m0d hipp¥ said:
Thanks for the response. I have a SM-G930T and the firmware I am running currently is the " G930TUVU4APIA" stock. I just am using the ENG boot file and removed a bunch of apps myself (not using the v15 debloater or fix). Any way, the PIA firmware is still a little sluggish for me, and I was thinking of going back to "G930TUVU3APG1", but every time I try to flash it through ODIN I get an error. Something similar to "SW. REV CHECK FAIL : FUSED : 4, BINARY : 3".
And I didn't think that a verizon firmware would work on a tmboile phone? They're completely different hardware? Like GSM vs CDMA? Or am I missing something?
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Getting the same Error while flashing from PK1 to PG1... My phone getting hot after PK1 update. Please help.....

Any luck?
sardor_x_z said:
Getting the same Error while flashing from PK1 to PG1... My phone getting hot after PK1 update. Please help.....
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I need help with the G930TUVU4APK1 update as well. I can flash the TAR file, but I cannot run the root files.

silversusanoo said:
I need help with the G930TUVU4APK1 update as well. I can flash the TAR file, but I cannot run the root files.
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I just rooted mine this morning. I played around with it a few times. What worked for me was run root.bat with my phone unplugged then plug it in. It took a few minutes for everything to go through. Hope this helps.
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Also would like to know bypass for limited tether greatly appreciated
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First Phone Steps. (What to do first) ?

Coming off of the Samsung S5 and going to the Honor 8 (Phone should be here tommorow)
On the samsung I had safestrap loaded for recovery, rooted, xposed, and many rooted apps.
I was also running stock rom because of lack of room, also lack of options.
The honor 8 looks like it is easy to get TWRP on it and get it unlocked bootloader.
Not sure about custom roms , looks like there are a few but is stock good ?
Also what about emui5 ?
Here is my current plan unless other suggestions:
Do titanium backup and nandroid on old phone.
Remove Sim and SD
Activate new phone with current sim (May need to go to att to trim)
Unlock Honor 8 bootloader.
Get TWRP loaded.
Root phone
load exposed , SU, Busy box, TB, (not in that order)
Load apps from Google play and overwrite data from TB if needed.
That is about it, so if I do this right should have stock rom and fully rooted and recovery.
currently looking at using Somboons tool for most of it.
This is a repost of my origional , but did in the wrong forums opps on my part.

I think before any mod on this device get used to the function of the unmodified device. And there after do your mods if you happy, unless you've already used this device.

eracet said:
Coming off of the Samsung S5 and going to the Honor 8 (Phone should be here tommorow)
On the samsung I had safestrap loaded for recovery, rooted, xposed, and many rooted apps.
I was also running stock rom because of lack of room, also lack of options.
The honor 8 looks like it is easy to get TWRP on it and get it unlocked bootloader.
Not sure about custom roms , looks like there are a few but is stock good ?
Also what about emui5 ?
Here is my current plan unless other suggestions:
Do titanium backup and nandroid on old phone.
Remove Sim and SD
Activate new phone with current sim (May need to go to att to trim)
Unlock Honor 8 bootloader.
Get TWRP loaded.
Root phone
load exposed , SU, Busy box, TB, (not in that order)
Load apps from Google play and overwrite data from TB if needed.
That is about it, so if I do this right should have stock rom and fully rooted and recovery.
currently looking at using Somboons tool for most of it.
This is a repost of my origional , but did in the wrong forums opps on my part.
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I have just got my honor 8 and all my other phones have been rooted and using custom Roms.
With this and with the updates and beta N I'm finding that I don't have to.
Using this ROM and using the custom themes that are available it's enough to keep me happy.
I'm looking forward to 2 years worth of updates.
It's an excellent phone and I really like the EMUI 5
Think hard before you root etc. There ain't any finished custom roms as yet.
There is no need to root to get rid of bloatware as the Rom let's you delete most of what you don't want.
Why you need to root ?
Try the phone and see what you can do.
Have fun
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs

johnhux7 said:
I have just got my honor 8 and all my other phones have been rooted and using custom Roms.
With this and with the updates and beta N I'm finding that I don't have to.
Using this ROM and using the custom themes that are available it's enough to keep me happy.
I'm looking forward to 2 years worth of updates.
It's an excellent phone and I really like the EMUI 5
Think hard before you root etc. There ain't any finished custom roms as yet.
There is no need to root to get rid of bloatware as the Rom let's you delete most of what you don't want.
Why you need to root ?
Try the phone and see what you can do.
Have fun
John
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I root for many programs , titanium backup , es file explorer, APs toSD pro, xposed and some others.
On the same Samsung there was tons of junk on it.
I know if I go TWRP there isnt much use at the moment. Unless I need to sideload something.
Don't really need a custom rom, not yet at least.
Wondering if I root and keep the stock rom would be the best thing.
Can I load TWRP later ?
Heard it will break the EMUI 5 update.
Or I could always do TWRP , Root etc and then load EUMI 5 or custom version manually someday.

eracet said:
I root for many programs , titanium backup , es file explorer, APs toSD pro, xposed and some others.
On the same Samsung there was tons of junk on it.
I know if I go TWRP there isnt much use at the moment. Unless I need to sideload something.
Don't really need a custom rom, not yet at least.
Wondering if I root and keep the stock rom would be the best thing.
Can I load TWRP later ?
Heard it will break the EMUI 5 update.
Or I could always do TWRP , Root etc and then load EUMI 5 or custom version manually someday.
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Yes mate you could root and keep the stock ROM but you will lose the option to get the OTA updates.
Just way up the pro's and cons and see if you really need to root.
I used to use titanium back up and yes it's a great app but there ain't really many options of custom ROMs to go back and forward between to need it in my case. Also now that as soon as you log into your Google account when going into a new rom you get your apps back anyway.
I have a couple of phones and I have root and am running CM14.1 on one of them and I can do more with this EMUI 5 beta N as I can do with CM14.1 !
I personally am gonna stick with stock on this phone for a good while. (At least till there are loads of roms to choose from)
John
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johnhux7 said:
Yes mate you could root and keep the stock ROM but you will lose the option to get the OTA updates.
Just way up the pro's and cons and see if you really need to root.
I used to use titanium back up and yes it's a great app but there ain't really many options of custom ROMs to go back and forward between to need it in my case. Also now that as soon as you log into your Google account when going into a new rom you get your apps back anyway.
I have a couple of phones and I have root and am running CM14.1 on one of them and I can do more with this EMUI 5 beta N as I can do with CM14.1 !
I personally am gonna stick with stock on this phone for a good while. (At least till there are loads of roms to choose from)
John
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Is the EMUI 5.0 only coming on a Push update?
Or is it possible to flash it or any custom coming out with it. ?
I seen there is a signup for beta now.
I do need root ( I dont save anything to the cloud services) all local
Apps themselves will load from play store and amazon store, just the game data or any other data will be manual reinstall.
From what I understand if I dont install custom recovery I can still get the OTA update when it is time.

eracet said:
Is the EMUI 5.0 only coming on a Push update?
Or is it possible to flash it or any custom coming out with it. ?
I seen there is a signup for beta now.
I do need root ( I dont save anything to the cloud services) all local
Apps themselves will load from play store and amazon store, just the game data or any other data will be manual reinstall.
From what I understand if I dont install custom recovery I can still get the OTA update when it is time.
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When I got the beta N update it came as an OTA update although i do think that there are some links to getting it via twrp over in the roms thread. I might be wrong with that though. Have a look
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I were also used to root on all my previous phones including the last one I moved from which was the Galaxy S4.
EMUI has so many nice functions (including choosing whether standard storage should be internal or external) so I actually don't need root anymore. Not even for blocking ads since that can be done through VPN.
If you want to move over your app date without root then do a backup with ADB.
Search for "adb backup" and you'll find a XDA thread about it. I made such a backup and got all my app data moved over along with the apps.
Oh yeah, and personally I'm using Evie for a launcher but when EMUI 5 is published I think I'll move back to the stock launcher.
Bro, the stock ROM rocks with its customisability!
And one more thing; if you're eligible to get an extra year of warranty plus 3 months of free screen change in case it cracks then remember to sign up through the HiCare app.

I'll also be getting my Honor 8 shortly. The only reason I've rooted my phones in the past is for ad blocking. I see there's an app called "Block This" that does not require root? Will that work on this phone?

zippster1 said:
I'll also be getting my Honor 8 shortly. The only reason I've rooted my phones in the past is for ad blocking. I see there's an app called "Block This" that does not require root? Will that work on this phone?
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I've used AdGuard and it's brilliant, but it's not free.
EDIT: I'm currently using "Block This!" and it's working very well!

I use root for some games, game guardian.
Some games are pay to win. ( I don't mind paying some but don't rob me)
I did get the phone working with my cell company and currently getting the Sd card backed up just in case something goes wrong somewhere.
Looking at getting a bootloader unlock code, but there site doesn't seem to be working right.
Thanks for the suggestions on steps to do.
Read multiple tips and ideas.
Next step is get SD card installed and getting google account loaded up.

Well I installed everything, only thing I don't like so far is it forces apps like hangouts.
I know it was recommended that I do not to TWRP or root, but I did anyways. ( I took suggestions very serious Thank you)
Now trying to get used to setup is a little challanging, maybe playing around with it will help a lot.
Such as hard to find what actual apps I have like an app drawer.
You people are the best at helping out . Thank you so much for helping me get on track !

Just got my H8 on monday (FRD-L14) and am in the same boat- thinking of Rooting but with the lack of ROM support at the moment I think I'm going to stay stock for a bit. There are some xposed mods that i'd like to get back but the stock features are pretty solid as it is. I did the CM theme, Apex launcher, changed out Icons and I'm pretty damn happy with it!

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Just got my H8 on monday (FRD-L14) and am in the same boat- thinking of Rooting but with the lack of ROM support at the moment I think I'm going to stay stock for a bit. There are some xposed mods that i'd like to get back but the stock features are pretty solid as it is. I did the CM theme, Apex launcher, changed out Icons and I'm pretty damn happy with it!
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I have the same model now FRD-L14.
Recovery , rooted, SU, xposed, F-droid.
Loaded my 20 root apps
I did not see a way to root without loading recovery.
There is another thread on TWRP.
What my plan down the road is to keep it like this , then eventtually (I assume early next year) see some development from Roms etc.
Hopefully a modified EUMI 5.
One of the major reasons I did not wait to start the process is because when you unlock bootloader it wipes.
So doing this now I cna set the phone up how I like. Then when the updating begins I can always go back to nandroid backup if something goes wrong.
Even though ATM the TWRP isnt backing up my rom (will update recovery when it does).

Nice- so i assume all the current "how to's" work fine for the L14? I've been reluctant to meddle too much since our model isn't specifically mentioned in most of the post here (though i assume anything for L04 applies). That and I don't see a stock firmware package out there to go back to if something goes wrong. I'm not a total noob but have only rooted and ROM'd with samsung devices so far (GS 2 and 3) which are so well documented and tested you really can't screw it up.

I'm really conflicted. I want to root simply because of the option for backing up app data rooted. I could care less about custom ROMs right now, but I want to be able to back up the data inside my apps like all the settings, messages, accounts etc etc. It is really annoying to me that I have to reset that when switching phones. I hate to say it but it seems like Apple does this better with iTunes backups (which is not an option for me though because I don't want to pay the money for an iDevice).
My issue on the H8 though is I rooted it just fine but then realized I forgot to do OTA updates first. So I did the OTA updates (full download) which basically re-locked, re-stocked my bootloader and unrooted the phone. Now in order to re-root, I have to go through unlocking again which is going to wipe all the customizations I already did. I really wish there was a way to keep a stock image WITH root but continue to do OTA updates...

Working on a Root Tool for S7/Edge T-Mobile that fixes lag, overheat etc! (OnionRoot)

So I rooted my S7 edge tmobile multiple times on 6.0.1 and did lots of testing to push the device to its limits. I soon found out that the device lags like aids when you reboot when you have it rooted. So I'm pretty close to finishing a tool that fixes all those problems. ESPECIALLY when you reboot and the CPU governor switches to performance for no reason.
Have any suggestions on what to add to the tool before release let me know! Also when you are rooting it with my tool, it will install an apk called OnionRoot. This might be added or removed from the root tool idea. Its intent is to fix lag performance and overheating. This may just be a better way of rooting your S7 without lag and what not.
Also if you are experincing any problems I didn't list when you root with the current way by chainfire, let me know to try to fix it before release.

Awesome patiently waiting
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Good ish OP. Cant wait to try it out when it's finished. If you can, try to set it so we can update supersu and its binaries.

Fix the ENGBOOT so that the issues don't exist

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so..basically the same thing we have already been doing with kernel aduitor to set the governor then lspeed, and sefix. got ya.

silentwind827 said:
So I rooted my S7 edge tmobile multiple times on 6.0.1 and did lots of testing to push the device to its limits. I soon found out that the device lags like aids when you reboot when you have it rooted. So I'm pretty close to finishing a tool that fixes all those problems. ESPECIALLY when you reboot and the CPU governor switches to performance for no reason.
Have any suggestions on what to add to the tool before release let me know! Also when you are rooting it with my tool, it will install an apk called OnionRoot. This might be added or removed from the root tool idea. Its intent is to fix lag performance and overheating. This may just be a better way of rooting your S7 without lag and what not.
Also if you are experincing any problems I didn't list when you root with the current way by chainfire, let me know to try to fix it before release.
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The main purpose of your solution is to fix the lag and sluggishness we experience when we use the engineering bootloader to root. If your solution makes it so that we don't have to fiddle around using any other third-party apps and have our phones run fast from the get-go, then by all means please release it ASAP! Any other enhancements can be added in future updates.

uniphase said:
The main purpose of your solution is to fix the lag and sluggishness we experience when we use the engineering bootloader to root. If your solution makes it so that we don't have to fiddle around using any other third-party apps and have our phones run fast from the get-go, then by all means please release it ASAP! Any other enhancements can be added in future updates.
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Pretty close to finish the basics. Its a tethered root for performance fix but will be untethered before release very close to finishing. I want to make the device run lag free. Thats the goal of this modded root tool.

I rooted my s7 edge many times and the one issue I always had after a few weeks of being rooted was IMS service issue even with the fixes it would still come up which then I had to turn off volte to make calls. If you can get that fixed it would be great. This was always the deal breaker that made me go back to stock.

HiGhDRo3o5 said:
I rooted my s7 edge many times and the one issue I always had after a few weeks of being rooted was IMS service issue even with the fixes it would still come up which then I had to turn off volte to make calls. If you can get that fixed it would be great. This was always the deal breaker that made me go back to stock.
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I've never had a problem with the IMS service. What exactly happens? Can you explain? Also you're on T-mobile S7/Edge? What processor and android OS ver?

Hurry up man! Lol jk
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So I'm guessing this is basically chainfire's ENGBOOT method with fixes already built in? Would definitely be a nice thing to have, but an unlocked bootloader would still be endgame for us. Have you considered Xposed with this? Xposed makes the phones lag a lot worse than with just root.

silentwind827 said:
I've never had a problem with the IMS service. What exactly happens? Can you explain? Also you're on T-mobile S7/Edge? What processor and android OS ver?
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T-Mobile s7 edge android 6.0.1. I would set up device as soon as root. All the available fixes and Would work fine for many weeks but then all of a sudden IMS has stopped and could not make or receive calls on volte. Would only work with volte off. Happened 4 different times so I stuck to stock. Now on final beta

HiGhDRo3o5 said:
T-Mobile s7 edge android 6.0.1. I would set up device as soon as root. All the available fixes and Would work fine for many weeks but then all of a sudden IMS has stopped and could not make or receive calls on volte. Would only work with volte off. Happened 4 different times so I stuck to stock. Now on final beta
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Have you tried to restore to default settings with recovery AND flash AP, BL, CP, and CSC with odin? That should fix it. Maybe try OnionRoot, I dont know how you're rooting your device this might be a fix. I've never had that problem come across, I have the same exactly device.

silentwind827 said:
Have you tried to restore to default settings with recovery AND flash AP, BL, CP, and CSC with odin? That should fix it. Maybe try OnionRoot, I dont know how you're rooting your device this might be a fix. I've never had that problem come across, I have the same exactly device.
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I tried it all. Went to stock and re rooted 4 times and always happened to me On 2 devices so I stayed stock at the end

HiGhDRo3o5 said:
I tried it all. Went to stock and re rooted 4 times and always happened to me On 2 devices so I stayed stock at the end
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Try titanium back up and freeze ims service. I don't think that might help but it's worth a shot

CosMiiK said:
So I'm guessing this is basically chainfire's ENGBOOT method with fixes already built in? Would definitely be a nice thing to have, but an unlocked bootloader would still be endgame for us. Have you considered Xposed with this? Xposed makes the phones lag a lot worse than with just root.
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Didn't mess around too much with engboot. I need to figure out how to fix it to make performance better and battery

ShrekOpher said:
Fix the ENGBOOT so that the issues don't exist
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I will look into it more and try to solve the problem why the device lags due to engBoot.tar or whatever we call it lol.

CosMiiK said:
So I'm guessing this is basically chainfire's ENGBOOT method with fixes already built in? Would definitely be a nice thing to have, but an unlocked bootloader would still be endgame for us. Have you considered Xposed with this? Xposed makes the phones lag a lot worse than with just root.
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No fixes in ENGBOOT yet, BUT there are solutions I am working on right now. I know the problem lies in ENGBOOT.tar. Right now the OnionRoot app fixes the governor on start up after a complete boot up sequence.

MorePAIN said:
Hurry up man! Lol jk
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Its released for testers now. OnionRoot early release for testers