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Root is one of 2 major things I like with my phones, I knew both had a high chance of not ever being on this phone when I bought it, but I want the XDA communities opinion, is there hope? All this bloat that I thought was going to be removed is really getting to me...I have 2.6gb of RAM used at all time and I can't even begin to understand why, unless RAM is what is making the S6 not a slug like previous Sammy phones. Sucks but is there any hope? Anyone who will work to find a way? What about bootloader unlocks? I know with my old S4 it was never achieved, same with S5. However I only really 'need' root.
Last question, has the community given up on this device before they even started? I know its early but I'm just wondering, haven't been in a Sammy phone for a year.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Root is one of 2 major things I like with my phones, I knew both had a high chance of not ever being on this phone when I bought it, but I want the XDA communities opinion, is there hope? All this bloat that I thought was going to be removed is really getting to me...I have 2.6gb of RAM used at all time and I can't even begin to understand why, unless RAM is what is making the S6 not a slug like previous Sammy phones. Sucks but is there any hope? Anyone who will work to find a way? What about bootloader unlocks? I know with my old S4 it was never achieved, same with S5. However I only really 'need' root.
Last question, has the community given up on this device before they even started? I know its early but I'm just wondering, haven't been in a Sammy phone for a year.
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For root, there is hope, but not all that much of it. Though I'm pinning my hopes for a note 4 root on an exploit for the s6. Hopefully something can be found that works for both.
For bootloader, never.
I came from the verizon note 4 and big as the root bounty got in 6 months we never saw root but it has been phones in the past that got root late so wishful thinking . Also I read rumors that the note 4 might be rooted soon so maybe the exploit will be similar also I'm not an expert but I've heard unused ram is wasted ram on android so you shouldn't be worried about ram usage as long as the phone is snappy and smooth .
It's possible that this late in the game for the Note 4, someone may be waiting for a bounty on the S6 and then release an exploit that works with both.
Highly unlikely. Note 4 has had a few close calls, but nobody has been able to get it done. The s6 will likely never have root on Verizon...unfortunately.
Wow I didn't realize it was so hard to root. I guess I should've researched this beforehand but version sold it the cheapest so I bought it on impulse. If things aren't looking good maybe I'll return it within the 2 weeks and see if I can get a tmobile one for not too much more.
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abdel12345 said:
Wow I didn't realize it was so hard to root. I guess I should've researched this beforehand but version sold it the cheapest so I bought it on impulse. If things aren't looking good maybe I'll return it within the 2 weeks and see if I can get a tmobile one for not too much more.
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The T-Mobile S6 won't work on Verizon.
Only downside of Samsung root is tripping the Knox counter..And there's no going back from that. So pretty much if they check, your warranty is voided if you ever have a non rooted issue that you can use the warranty on. My old note 3 the screen started to left up and my Knox counter was tripped. Never took it in as fear as id get billed later for something after they swapped it out.
So it may be a long shot but do we want to setup a bounty for gaining root?
I think s6 will see root but not unlocked boot loader
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as long as i can have root and xposed...i am happy!!!
stanfna said:
as long as i can have root and xposed...i am happy!!!
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Those are the two least likely things to happen unfortunately
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I (very) recently got a Verizon Galaxy S6 and (stupidly) allowed the updates to run :silly:. I should have known better, as I went through the unlocking/rooting process with Verizon's S3. I could live with it for a bit if people think it will be unlocked in the near future (I'm on VRU4BOG9), but if there's a reason that it's unlikely that it will ever be unlocked, I can still return it and cancel my plan. I could just change carriers, but it's a little tricky because it involves my wife's phone/line, as well.
Does anyone have any information or opinions regarding this?
Thanks!
I'm with you in the same boat.
It was past the baseband even before i let the updates run.
I doubt there will be anything. This forum is pretty dead. No developers etc. I am going to look into getting a tmobile s6 and see if I can unlock, root and get it working on verizon. I think it can be done I've just not looked into it yet so not for sure.
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Stagefright might allow root. I'm waiting to see.
redrol said:
Stagefright might allow root. I'm waiting to see.
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Stagefright doesn't run at root level.
dobbs3x said:
I doubt there will be anything. This forum is pretty dead. No developers etc. I am going to look into getting a tmobile s6 and see if I can unlock, root and get it working on verizon. I think it can be done I've just not looked into it yet so not for sure.
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t-mo has CDMA radio?
or you plan to run LTE only?
i would be interested to find out as well
It's unlikely.. as some of the recent dev posts have made clear samsung is the ultimate anti-developer company... as such most of the dev's that would normally work on this have moved on to other brands. It's also gotten to the point that it's almost impossible to actually unlock.. they almost always work around it rather than unlock it, and there are only so many of these workarounds out there.
It may get rooted again, but it will be very unlikely that the bootloader gets unlocked.. basically our only hope would be a leaked test bootloader thats already unlocked.. But I've only ever heard of this happening once.
Take it back while you can. Had my s6 rooted on 5.0.2 but there was no xposed support or xposed for it. If you enjoy rooting your phone the outlook is not good. Not much going on with this scene. After owning mine for just 2 months I sold mine on eBay and am headed towards a nexus. Not a bad phone but not good for flashing...I will do my research next time before getting a Samsung !
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It's unlikely.. as some of the recent dev posts have made clear samsung is the ultimate anti-developer company....
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It's not Samsung, IT'S Verizon that's locking Us out.
rbeavers said:
It's not Samsung, IT'S Verizon that's locking Us out.
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It's Samsung that lets Verizon lock us out. They let companies throw their logo on it still so...
How about Chainfire
EXPERIMENT: Root without modifying /system (you can search for it here on XDA)
I hope it could actually work soon!
webwarr said:
How about Chainfire
EXPERIMENT: Root without modifying /system (you can search for it here on XDA)
I hope it could actually work soon!
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Tried it, no go
Got it...
That's sad
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Becoming less and less happy that I bought this phone. Especially on the payment plan. I may have to bite the bullet, pay it off and just sell it for whatever I can get. Sucks. I loved my fascinate, my S3, and my S4. Been using my Moto Maxx 2 more and more lately. THAT'S SAD.
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Besides the Nexus what model phones are now dev friendly? I was looking at a G4 but apparently LG is just like Samsung with the nearly uncrackable locked bootloaders now.
s5 just got full bootloader unlock..
Is it Verizon or the Exynos chip that's holding back development on this device? ELI5
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It's the customized software that samsung builds for Verizon that limits access to root and bootloader. Without having root privileges, you can not make any system changes let alone access it. The chip has nothing to do with this.
s5 just got bootloader unlock BUT the dev has not said he will release anything. It may never happen on this device. having said that the debloater is the key to a smooth device with good battery. If debloating is all you need, that can be done without root.
After debloating about 150 apps on my s6, I can get days and days on battery with minimal use.
This who ordeal with Samsung screwing us on the S6 is making me want to switch to a Nexus...
I have a SM-955U Verizon Galaxy s8+, is there a way to root it yet and unlock the bootloader and if there is does anyone have a link for a "how to thread". When I had my Galaxy 5 I just quit rooting mainly because of things in my life that occupied my spare time, however now I would like to root my s8+ now that I have the time and I am wondering if the process and difficulty level has increased much or at all. Thanks to all the developers who let us use our devices to their full potential
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I have a SM-955U Verizon Galaxy s8+, is there a way to root it yet and unlock the bootloader and if there is does anyone have a link for a "how to thread". When I had my Galaxy 5 I just quit rooting mainly because of things in my life that occupied my spare time, however now I would like to root my s8+ now that I have the time and I am wondering if the process and difficulty level has increased much or at all. Thanks to all the developers who let us use our devices to their full potential
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No, no and no.
If even the Google Pixel is locked down like a door on a submarine on Verizon. There's not a chance a Samsung Galaxy phone will rooted.
It's simply not possible to root a carrier locked device right now, they all have bombproof bootloaders, you cannot flash anything. It will take a long time before any sort of root is achieved, only recently some bootloader locked S7 phones could be rooted
all i can say is wait for the best.u never know tmrw
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No root as of now especially on Verizon
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If it was possible there would be a thread/how-to. Don't really know why this is always asked, just go search and read.
Hi all i own a Tab s 8.4 LTE for a good year or so i did not trip Knox due to warranty and stuff.. But a month or so ago i found out about Viper4Audio so me flashing Twrp to install viper4audio tripped knox, yeah i know i could have not tripped knox.. if i installed viper4audio apk but the dam thing wouldnt work until i flashed it. Anyway once i heard viper audio wow im blown away now when ever i listen to the S8+ the audio does not sound as good as the tab s. So im wondering is it worth rooting ? the ones who have rooted do you regret rooting ? or shall i wait will root ever come for the S8+ EXYNOS With out tripping knox or am i dreaming for that ?
There will never be a way to root without tripping Knox I'm afraid.
You just have to decide if it's worth it for YOU.
You will lose warranty. You will lose things like Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, other banking apps, though sometimes this can be worked around.
I owned the S7E before owning the S8+, and it was the first time I have ever owned a phone that I didn't root it. It's a hard choice, but warranty is more important for me, along with Samsung Pay, Samsung health etc.
Just root. Life is bet with root.
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I chose to not root my S7 edge, and the only thing that bothers me is video ads on youtube. otherwise I can live just fine without it. Custom roms tend to be too unstable for me, anyway. I won't root my S8+, assuming it ever comes out for the SD variant (bought it for dolphin, and I got it from Samsung for $524).
No. Not until we find a way to not trip knox.
I don't recommend you to root your phone you will loose Samsung pay feature for good plus your warranty. I can tell you yes it's a bit boring without having the ability to modify your phone but you can live without it. I think the stock rom is quite good and satisfies my needs . So again don't do it
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No root for me. Root is history for me since two years ago.
Don't see the needs of it already. Maybe they is still one or two nice apps that need root. For the sack of that one or two apps really not worth to root and trip Knox.
I root for years any single device I have but yesterday I bought also a S8+ and I think this will be the first time not to root. So no root - vote from me
Same rooted my s7 edge just to play and get more out of it. I will leave my new s8+ Alone. Battery is great would love the customizations with root but its good enough as it is. Only thing i really miss is viperaudio. Anyone know of a way this can be installed without tripping knox??
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
e753 said:
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
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First phone since the T-Mobile G1 I haven't rooted and I've had 12 smartphones since. There's nothing as good as Adblock but I'm not rooting the S8+ and am using Blokada from XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...da-fire-forget-root-ad-blocker-t3503374/page2
I'm joining the growing choir of new S8 Plus users who have decided to leave rooting behind them. It was fun and extremely useful for me up until this S8 Plus. My Note 5 will be the last device I root. It's just not worth the hassle any longer. Lately rooting has become too much of a chore on this platform for me, personally. I've kept Samsung as my daily driver for years because one of the reasons was that traditionally it was much easier to root compared to other devices. This was especially true when I was with Sprint as they never locked down their phones like Verizon and AT&T did.
At this moment, as far as rooting is concerned, I have the same feeling I did when I finally said, "Enough!" when I was jailbreaking my iPhones. Eventually I grew tired of the cat and mouse game between devs and the OEM. This feels the same and I think it's time to say goodbye to rooting flagships for me.
Now I feel that the combined hardware and software development on this phone has matured enough that I'm okay rolling clean and stock from now on.
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First phone since the T-Mobile G1 I haven't rooted and I've had 12 smartphones since. There's nothing as good as Adblock but I'm not rooting the S8+ and am using Blokada from XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...da-fire-forget-root-ad-blocker-t3503374/page2
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Hey does blokada block YouTube ads ? YouTube ads are so annoying ?
100% definitely do NOT ROOT.
Matt
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Hey does blokada block YouTube ads ? YouTube ads are so annoying ?
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I have youtube red, no ads anyway, so I'm not sure.
I have been rooting since the beginning of Android, every phone I've had. I stopped using Samsung in 2013 and went to LG, then to Google (Nexus 6P, then Pixel XL), and now back to Samsung. I was honestly a little disappointed with the Pixel and how difficult it was to flash because of the dual partitions. I am in the US, and the US S8 was a no go, as I don't appreciate a phone that I buy outright being locked down. I ended up getting the SM-G955F, and rooted it the first day I had it. It was so simple, and so worth it. I feel like its 2013 again with how easy this thing is to modify. I have Viper installed, and customized to my liking, and my ROM is bloat free.
I have a Canadian S8 Plus and I've rooted all my Androids since the first Motorola. Like others I don't think at this moment rooting would bring me anything really exciting. I've installed Adhell 2 and got rid of the ads and backed up everything with the pc smart switch. I'm missing the volume warning disable mod because I found it annoying but even that one is not that bad if I don't restart the phone. Starting with S6 the best ROMs were always stock based and that became more and more evident lately so until something really new is coming up I'm going to stay unrooted. I'm with Bell and there are only 2 apps which I would not want them so basically no bloat. My 2c.
e753 said:
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
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You can get rid of ads with AdGuard.
I am hesitating to root also.
I used Titanium backup until now and if someone has an alternative I would be glad to hear it too.
Did you try Helium? The paid version has many features but it will only backup some apps vs Titanium. Because of missing root it will not be able to backup apps that have "backup disallowed" enabled.
EMJI79 said:
You can get rid of ads with AdGuard.
I am hesitating to root also.
I used Titanium backup until now and if someone has an alternative I would be glad to hear it too.
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But idf you root arent there supposed to be issue with it when it comes to the bootloader?
Last phone I ever rooted was my old Galaxy S6. Years ago. In the end I ended up flashing back to stock. Cant remember why.
But yesterday morning after I got the android pie / one ui OTA .. I cannot use substratum and andromeda anymore!! I hate the themes from the galaxy store with a passion.
Is it worth rooting just to theme? I guess losing Knox ain't a problem. My phone isnt under warranty, it's a tmobile phone unlocked with different cell carrier.
Any opinions ?? :highfive:
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Last phone I ever rooted was my old Galaxy S6. Years ago. In the end I ended up flashing back to stock. Cant remember why.
But yesterday morning after I got the android pie / one ui OTA .. I cannot use substratum and andromeda anymore!! I hate the themes from the galaxy store with a passion.
Is it worth rooting just to theme? I guess losing Knox ain't a problem. My phone isnt under warranty, it's a tmobile phone unlocked with different cell carrier.
Any opinions ?? :highfive:
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I tried pie on my wifes phone. Its cool. I like it. But nothing compares to a rooted device even if you dont have custom roms or that good stuff. Even a 1.5 year old s8 still get better battery life than a new stock one with all my tweaks. I even kind of broke the 80% charge barrier litrelly last night. Got a 90% charge. So imo if your a smart fellar and can follow the root mwthod instructions to a t i would always pick root over updates. Im still on a revision 2 bootloader and plan to be til the death of my device
I see you say tmobile. The US devices or U models cannot trip knox. You lose samsung pay while rooted but you can always restore back stock. Secure folder and pay will work after. Since we have locked bootloaders. And no way to unlock them since they are signed with 256 bit sha keys.
I got dual speaker mods, modded touchwiz, deodexed. Completely themed out. I try all kinds. I push root to its limits for a locked bootloader.
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I tried pie on my wifes phone. Its cool. I like it. But nothing compares to a rooted device even if you dont have custom roms or that good stuff. Even a 1.5 year old s8 still get better battery life than a new stock one with all my tweaks. I even kind of broke the 80% charge barrier litrelly last night. Got a 90% charge. So imo if your a smart fellar and can follow the root mwthod instructions to a t i would always pick root over updates. Im still on a revision 2 bootloader and plan to be til the death of my device
I see you say tmobile. The US devices or U models cannot trip knox. You lose samsung pay while rooted but you can always restore back stock. Secure folder and pay will work after. Since we have locked bootloaders. And no way to unlock them since they are signed with 256 bit sha keys.
I got dual speaker mods, modded touchwiz, deodexed. Completely themed out. I try all kinds. I push root to its limits for a locked bootloader.
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Just the fact of losing Samsung pay, I will not root my phone. Thank you so much for reminding me of that downfall!!!
Yeah my phone is sm-g955u tmobile s8+ but unlocked and I use metro pcs.
And what is the 80% barrier? I read something earlier trying to find a rom if I were to root... I got parallels installed on my computer so I could have used Odin. (I sadly own a hackintosh, built from scratch mac in a PC tower)
I miss using substratum sense the pie update, but This equally Black & Red Samsung theme along with This awesome Samsung icon set is doing okay..
I do miss blacked out gmail, play store, etc... lol
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turbolaceup said:
Just the fact of losing Samsung pay, I will not root my phone. Thank you so much for reminding me of that downfall!!!
Yeah my phone is sm-g955u tmobile s8+ but unlocked and I use metro pcs.
And what is the 80% barrier? I read something earlier trying to find a rom if I were to root... I got parallels installed on my computer so I could have used Odin. (I sadly own a hackintosh, built from scratch mac in a PC tower)
I miss using substratum sense the pie update, but This equally Black & Red Samsung theme along with This awesome Samsung icon set is doing okay..
I do miss blacked out gmail, play store, etc... lol
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The kernel we have from Samsung the they do graciously left open to use for permissive root. Has a80% charge cap set in place from Samsung. Its a safety thing.
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The kernel we have from Samsung the they do graciously left open to use for permissive root. Has a80% charge cap set in place from Samsung. Its a safety thing.
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Weird. Lol.