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[Discussion] Praise for the Note 3 even this far in 2014.

For real.
This 2013 phone, still, is one of the most powerful mobile devices in existence (we exclude stuff like Surface Pro 3 and recent Tegra K1 tablets ), even after the Note 4 and the iPhone 6 are out. The quad HD screen on the Note 4 is bound to slow down a little the device, even with the Snapdragon 805 on board (we have to test the Exynos as well, especially after it gets upgraded with Android L).
The 13 mpx camera does a marvelous job in broad daylight, low-light performance has been... well... bad, at least for me. xD But a decent camera overall.
A huge SWAPPABLE battery, we got a ZeroLemon 10 000 mAh, if we so much need juice while on the move.
The SD801 devices are not much of an upgrade because, if we so desire, thanks to the devs who do custom kernels, we can overclock the thing. 64 bit Android devices seem to be on the way, but until then...
Also, DAT AMOLED screen.
Also, DAT USB 3.0. I use it a lot.
So, probably the ONLY phone in existence more powerful is the OnePlus One, and it's not the perfect phone for the lack of microSD slot and the non-removable battery.
And with the Note 4 coming, the Note 3 will get cheaper! Not OnePlus One cheap, probably, but still.
Of course there are things to hate about the Note 3 (plasticplasticplastic, knox, it's damn ugly in white), I find the downsides acceptable compared to the many upsides of this device.
So, unless I'm posting in the wrong section and some mod gets me 1v1 somewhere privately to tell me "thread closed" in no uncertain terms, share your thoughts, please, and call me a Samsung fanboy if you will.

You've pretty much summed up the device, I really have Touchwiz and would wish for a built in Theme engine. I would love a theme like this, but refuse to flash CM or another ROM due to issues with NFC etc...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steel89ita.paid.atomicgreen
Wanam can change the notification colours but not the entire device ui. Shame.
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Ryya said:
You've pretty much summed up the device, I really have Touchwiz and would wish for a built in Theme engine. I would love a theme like this, but refuse to flash CM or another ROM due to issues with NFC etc...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.steel89ita.paid.atomicgreen
Wanam can change the notification colours but not the entire device ui. Shame.
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...fun fact, we use the same ROM.
Also, I think I found somewhere another xposed mod that "unlocks" the S5's theme engine because it's baked in the Note 3's recent NG1 build. It's limited, icons and wallpapers only, but it's still a start.
AOSP is the prettiest thing that has graced my screen, but yes, I like the fully functioning camera and the S-Pen's functions intact.
We are sure to get official L on the Nope 3, but it will be in March at the earliest, or January with CM.

sirobelec said:
...fun fact, we use the same ROM.
Also, I think I found somewhere another xposed mod that "unlocks" the S5's theme engine because it's baked in the Note 3's recent NG1 build. It's limited, icons and wallpapers only, but it's still a start.
AOSP is the prettiest thing that has graced my screen, but yes, I like the fully functioning camera and the S-Pen's functions intact.
We are sure to get official L on the Nope 3, but it will be in March at the earliest, or January with CM.
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Where did you get this information? Google doesn't bring anything about this, neither the hidden ui in ng1 and neither the new s5 xposed module, only the old one.

First of all, Note 3 was among the most powerful phones with the most advanced hardware, at the time of introduction. For example, as far as I know it was the first phone in the world with 3GB RAM and probably no other phone has more even now. CPU is still very competitive, albeit little slower, probably until 64bit CPU/OS is introduced (that's when RAM will probably go past 3GB to support RAM hungry 64 bit system), GPU is also very competitive, especially when you consider newer faster GPU's need to support higher screen resolution. Personally I have nothing against plastic and the way N3 looks, especially that I wouldn't dare to use it without protective case and if somebody can't find case he likes, build or 3D print one yourself. Frankly I think using metal casing is a mistake as it may affect signal reception, especially in marginal cases.
But the fact is, if one, like me for example, wants and uses pen often, there is no other choice, except for Note series. Now, Note 4 is even faster and better than Note3, having pretty much top of the line hardware ATM, but probably not enough to make me upgrade. One thing I wish my Note3 had and would make me upgrade to Note4 was waterproofing, but otherwise I'm very happy with my Note3.
Funny thing is I just run Antutu benchmark today after updating to NF9, the only phone ranking faster than mine was HTC One M8t, yep I don't get it either, since it's pretty much stock rooted, not even overclocked.

lvnatic said:
Where did you get this information? Google doesn't bring anything about this, neither the hidden ui in ng1 and neither the new s5 xposed module, only the old one.
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Here's the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2722650

The Note 3 is the worst device (ironie )
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THE BEST OF THE BEST !!!

I completely agree with this thread. I just made the switch from ios, and the note blows everything I've used out the water.

The LG-V10 Lounge

LG-V10 Bar and Grill
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Topics of discussion:
The next great LG
Cell phones? Of course
Firmware releases
V10 Battery: Compared to other devices
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LG and their infamous updates
Your favorite song.
ROMs/Kernels/Themes you would like to see brought to the V10
The camera... Amazing?
Have you previously owned other LG-G series devices?
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This includes reviews, unboxings, tests, etc
Cake recipes... YUM
Lets help keep requests and ROM suggestions out of development threads. Post it here, if you need to say it!
Help those looking for answers
Basically anything dealing with the LG-V10
How the V10 compare others to other devices.

Will it be coming to the UK market?
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I stated in another thread. I think that the true signal is going to be great because signal on the g3 for me is bad.... And this looks more promising than any other phones coming out.....

I was eagerly awaiting a Nexus device but considering the pathetic specs of the 5x and the fact that the 6p won't be in stores has me really considering LG once again. I'm really excited about that 4GB of ram for this new device. I may not be interested in a dual screen phone though if this is what is coming. LG so far is really good at having a large single display and keeping overall dimensions to a minimum. Simply adding an additional screen would make it overall too big.
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LG official vid

If anybody want to listen...
I only wanted to watch :good:

AA has posted a great review here:good: As well as an amazing drop test of the device.

Very reminiscent of the Vertu phones. I'm certain thats where they're getting their inspiration for this and partially for the G4 as well. Not a bad phone to aspire to either

Pocketnow

G$ vs V10

Great phone! Time to upgrade from LG G Pro 2

So it looks like a no brainer. I guess this is my next device but it's a little bigger than I really wanted to go. I guess I could go without a big bulky case on the V10 though considering it's very durable. Does anyone know if LG is still releasing an LG G4 Pro, or is that not happening this year?
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Time to put my HTC ONE MAX to sleep. The LG V10 was the rumored G4 Pro.
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Can't wait for the V10! Been switching between my aging LG Nexus 4, and my Samsung Note 4 (Not a big fan). My Nexus 4 has always been my favorite phone, can't wait to be daily driving another LG. Props to LG for sticking up for the power users who require a removable battery and SD card slot!

Interesting concept, but I've been wondering for awhile why is it that LG continues to use 3000mAh batteries, can they not improve the capacity?
The G2, G3, G4, Flex 2, and now V10 share the same capacity. Of course the G2 does best with 3K, yet that doesn't explain why 2yrs later they haven't moved to at least 31-3400mAh. From my quick research none of the newer LG's have comparable battery performance to either the OPO/G2, a trait that led me to love my G2.
From my personal experience newer LG's (going off of screen time provided by others) are comparable to the original Optimus G, which was between 4-5hrs (or G1 I suppose). LG is great with implementing strange features like dual this, dual that, flexible this, leather that. Yet, not much has changed for battery.
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razz1 said:
So it looks like a no brainer. I guess this is my next device but it's a little bigger than I really wanted to go. I guess I could go without a big bulky case on the V10 though considering it's very durable. Does anyone know if LG is still releasing an LG G4 Pro, or is that not happening this year?
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Pretty sure the V10 is the rumored "G4 Pro"
Ace42 said:
Interesting concept, but I've been wondering for awhile why is it that LG continues to use 3000mAh batteries, can they not improve the capacity?
The G2, G3, G4, Flex 2, and now V10 share the same capacity. Of course the G2 does best with 3K, yet that doesn't explain why 2yrs later they haven't moved to at least 31-3400mAh. From my quick research none of the newer LG's have comparable battery performance to either the OPO/G2, a trait that led me to love my G2.
From my personal experience newer LG's (going off of screen time provided by others) are comparable to the original Optimus G, which was between 4-5hrs (or G1 I suppose). LG is great with implementing strange features like dual this, dual that, flexible this, leather that. Yet, not much has changed for battery.
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Good question. What about my G3 with 538 ppi screen? Still better than most new phones, I love this phone and I still think its beautiful in white with the metal edge. Now you see why I'm torn on any upgrade.
With the battery, it would make sense to keep using 3k mah when a lot of the new phones are still lower. Especially if LG can keep using at least part of the same battery mfg process to save on retooling and set-up costs. Maybe they feel like battery life is still competitive so they're not investing R&D money there.
Anyway, I'm ready for a change and I'm 85% sure it's going to be a Nexus 6P in Frost white!

I really want to go for the Nexus 6P but the AMOLED screen is a major turn off for me.
This doesn't look to shabby but having just dropped $600 on a G4 that has some annoying touchscreen issues I'm not too happy with LG at the moment.

Will stick to my G2. Only true upgrade would be RAM but I can survive with 2GB for now. Camera on G2 is alright and honestly 5.2" isn't exactly small.
More than 2 years and still not a single mAh extra. I can't understand their approach to the battery either but I can see why they chose snapdragron 808 once again. This will make the G5 stand out even more when they announce that it is powered by the snapdragon 820.
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Nice general spec comparison to the iP6+

If it supports Tmo 12 band, I could definitely see myself moving on from my G3. I use the IR Blaster often enough where I don't think I will willingly move to a phone without one, very glad to see it's on the V10.
The only thing missing that would make it perfect for me is stereo front facing speakers, but at least the one speaker faces forwards instead of backwards like on my G3.

New Images Leaked.

here are some of the leaked images. looks good to me
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Not enough to tell any features.

if there isn't a 5.5+in screen thats not curved I'll wait for the note 6 to see if that's worth it.

Looks exactly like the S6.
Going to be a huge waste of money, in fact I regret spending $700 on my S6, since there is absolutely 0 dev support and the updates include 0 improvement.
My loyalty to Samsung will most probably end here with the S6, my next device is the next Nexus that will come out.
Samsung has still not released 6.0.1 for the international S6 yet.
A ton of HTC and Motorola devices have received the 6.0 update and us Samsung users are here with this 5.1.1 TouchWiz bullsh*t.

No Source from Samsung = No Love from Devs
murtaza02 said:
Looks exactly like the S6.
Going to be a huge waste of money, in fact I regret spending $700 on my S6, since there is absolutely 0 dev support and the updates include 0 improvement.
My loyalty to Samsung will most probably end here with the S6, my next device is the next Nexus that will come out.
Samsung has still not released 6.0.1 for the international S6 yet.
A ton of HTC and Motorola devices have received the 6.0 update and us Samsung users are here with this 5.1.1 TouchWiz bullsh*t.
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I think the lack of dev attention to the s6 was because they used the exynos processor and we know how bad Samsung is at releasing source so those phones had little support from the devs. I imagine since in the US at least they are going back to the snapdragon processor support will be good once again.

naruto.ninjakid said:
I think the lack of dev attention to the s6 was because they used the exynos processor and we know how bad Samsung is at releasing source so those phones had little support from the devs. I imagine since in the US at least they are going back to the snapdragon processor support will be good once again.
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Again, only to certain markets. So, US and a few other countries will get the SD820.
Pakistan usually gets the Exynos garbage while the rest of the world enjoys Snapdragon hardware.
Samsung creates an epic piece of hardware like the Exynos 7420 and restricts anyone from actually using it to it's full potential.
Like I said, last Samsung device hopefully. Not wasting any more money.
Tacky glass body and gimmicky camera won't fool me this time.
Nexus device it is.

murtaza02 said:
Again, only to certain markets. So, US and a few other countries will get the SD820.
Pakistan usually gets the Exynos garbage while the rest of the world enjoys Snapdragon hardware.
Samsung creates an epic piece of hardware like the Exynos 7420 and restricts anyone from actually using it to it's full potential.
Like I said, last Samsung device hopefully. Not wasting any more money.
Tacky glass body and gimmicky camera won't fool me this time.
Nexus device it is.
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Yeah, I feel you. Especially with other countries since they would rather go with exynos. Power to you. We need devices we can all be happy with and we know nexus devices always have good development.

From the limited information I've seen, the exynos s7 is scoring higher on performance than the sd820, don't have a link for you, it's out there.
But I agree about the lack of dev for exynos, I had a moto x 2, so I know how painful it is not to have lots of good ROMs.
I would consider 6p, but the screen is so big, I like 5.1
S7 with sd820 might be great for dev scene.

less dev support again.. samsung is really making this hard for developers

I am also looking forward for Samsung Galaxy S7, but it looks exactly same as S6 which I don't like. They could have changed it a little bit. Although specifications of this smartphones are really great.

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here are some of the leaked images. looks good to me
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It seems designed fantastic

I stopped buying S series after S4 because the upgrades are incremental. I just bought two brand new S4 last month because they are now cheap and are better than the new mid range phones today.

any bug?
Ramondel said:
Not enough to tell any features.
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how ary you?
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Here is the latest clearest pic we have

murtaza02 said:
Again, only to certain markets. So, US and a few other countries will get the SD820.
Pakistan usually gets the Exynos garbage while the rest of the world enjoys Snapdragon hardware.
Samsung creates an epic piece of hardware like the Exynos 7420 and restricts anyone from actually using it to it's full potential.
Like I said, last Samsung device hopefully. Not wasting any more money.
Tacky glass body and gimmicky camera won't fool me this time.
Nexus device it is.
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Lollipop was rolled out in jan 2015 for moto G2.. and for my Note 3 neo lollipop was rooled in 2016 22 jan..
I took one complete year.. when marshmallow was rolling.. i got lollipop.. plus N3N dont have dev support dur to exynos too.. samsung is piece of ****.. hopefully i'll go for nexus or Moto next time

Got a chance to hold the S7 black this weekend. Very good solid feel. The curve on the back is like the Note 5 making it easier to hold. The home button has a better look and feel. Less of the chrome around the home button. You can easily see the 2.5D glass on the display. SD card slot for sure in the SIM slot (200GB support). IP68 water resistant, micro USB charging, 12MP 1.7f camera. Has the iPhone esq live motion picture taking, also front facing flash by making the display very bright white. Didn't see about the pressure sensitive screen. Don't think that's there. Anyway that's the S7. Would I buy it? For sure. Looked great.
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@saywhat4118 thanks for sharing your opinion! Could you tell how does it feel in hand, in terms of size? How easy it's to operate with one hand in compare to your A9? Additionaly, are there visible black bars on top and bottom when screen is off?

I was hoping for USB 3.0 or 3.1 via USB-C, but microUSB is better if it's 2.0. Would have been a nice bonus. Otherwise the S7 is shaping up to finally be a unit worthy of replacing my S4. S5 was too little of improvement; water resistance was nice, but increase in physical size for .1" bigger screen was pitiful. S6 losing both SD & removable battery was just too compromised. I'll never be happy about a sealed battery in any device. The G5 looks like it'll be the only flagship with removable battery, but for me it's too large & I can't stand the button arrangement. I will, however, not buy the S7 until I see how the curved glass back stands up to impacts. I can't stand using a case & the S4 polycarbonate body has proven very tough over almost 3 years.

Mefa2 said:
@saywhat4118 thanks for sharing your opinion! Could you tell how does it feel in hand, in terms of size? How easy it's to operate with one hand in compare to your A9? Additionaly, are there visible black bars on top and bottom when screen is off?
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Didn't see any black bars you speak of. I did see the always on display. It tells time and notifications count on an all black screen.
In terms of in hand feel, I thought it felt great. Definitely one hand operable.
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Thanks for reply! I'm glad it's one hand operable, because it's so important for me. I was using "always on display" on OG Moto X and I have great memories about it, so it is so good we will see that feature in Samsung flagship.

Moto Maxx replacement phone

Hey guys, maybe its just that I'm getting bored of this phone but after nearly 2 years I think its time to get a new one.
Been thinking about nexus 2017 lineup, maybe a xiaomi phone or lately (mainly because of its price and battery) the new moto z play. I'm not willing to pay a lot this time as I did 2 years ago.
What do you guys think? would moto z play be a good replacement phone for moto maxx? Is there any other phone you can think of that can be a good replacement?

ZTE Axon 7
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$400 with free shipping in the U.S.
If gold is too flashy for you also comes in a gray/silver look.
5.5" 1440p AMOLED
Fantastic hi-fidelity stereo audio with front facing speakers
20MP rear camera + OIS
8MP selfie camera
Snapdragon 820
4GB RAM
64GB internal memory + microSD slot (128GB cards available)
It is also among the first devices to support "Daydream" -- Google's mobile virtual reality engine. (for bragging rights, you know)
specs:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/ZTE-Axon-7_id10068/fullspecs
It's what Motorola should have done instead of the silly mods on the Moto Z series. It has everything already built in! No need to pay extra cost to add stereo speakers, and such.
Here's ZTE Axon 7 ($400) vs Galaxy S7 Edge ($800)
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/ZTE-Axon-7,Samsung-Galaxy-S7-edge/phones/10068,9818?ft=2
Seriously, look at the specs and realize that's a $400 phone vs an $800 phone!
Just wished it had Qi wireless charging and I'd be buying 3 of them! Instead I'll wait for next year's Samsung Galaxy Edge as Samsung seems to be the only ones still doing Qi wireless. My Quarks will last me another year. We use two daily and I have one in a box -- never touched -- as backup.

The only thing that worries me is updates and the future of the phone....and maybe price a little bit( moto z play would cost me 250 usd )

mathab said:
The only thing that worries me is updates and the future of the phone....and maybe price a little bit( moto z play would cost me 250 usd )
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Your current phone is better than Moto Z Play! 1080p? Snapdragon 600 series?
Last year's LG G4 is even better than Moto Z Play. I didn't know you wanted mid-tier. I thought you were looking at Moto Z. I didn't read well enough.
ZTE AXON 7 will have unlocked bootloader. Devs will be all over it, especially at that price. It has better specs than Nexus will, at Nexus prices. It matches most (and beats a couple) Galaxy S7 Edge specs, at half the price.

ChazzMatt said:
Your current phone is better than Moto Z Play! 1080p? Snapdragon 600 series?
Last year's LG G4 is even better than Moto Z Play. I didn't know you wanted mid-tier. I thought you were looking at Moto Z. I didn't read well enough.
ZTE AXON 7 will have unlocked bootloader. Devs will be all over it, especially at that price. It has better specs than Nexus will, at Nexus prices. It matches most (and beats a couple) Galaxy S7 Edge specs, at half the price.
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Just realized it has SD625, I was thinking it had the 650 or 652 with the A72 cores
If it wasn't cause of you I may have bought it.
Now I'm trying to decide if I buy the Axon 7 or just wait for this year nexus and hope I can afford one

They're less than month away. I say wait, and you if you don't like them / can't afford them get the Axon. Perhaps you can even get a used Axon or a deal then.
Also remember that paying for something good isn't necessarily a bad deal. I paid $800 for my Quark and it's still running great. Never had a phone last me this much.

ChazzMatt said:
ZTE AXON 7 will have unlocked bootloader. Devs will be all over it, especially at that price. It has better specs than Nexus will, at Nexus prices. It matches most (and beats a couple) Galaxy S7 Edge specs, at half the price.
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Told you devs would jump on it.
This dev got unofficial CM13 for it before he even got his phone. Only got his phone today (September 13)... ROM was up days ago (September 8, 2016). Now, he'll start fixing what doesn't work.
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]CyanogenMod 13 for ZTE Axon 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/cyanogenmod-13-a2017u-t3457410
Some user bought him the phone.
Unjustified Dev said:
Let's all thank @B4oE for purchasing me a device which I now have in my hands.
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Xshooter726 said:
Today is a good day We made it to top forum discussions and you finally got your phone!
Really surprised how you even got a build up with fixes while not even having the phone lol.
Can only imagine what you'll do now that you actually have the phone. RIP MiFavor!
Thanks @B4oE for making it possible.
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Again, just wished it had Qi wireless charging and I'd be buying three of them. Except for that it's about a perfect phone, at least specs on paper. Good dev work will make it even better.

The now also have TWRP.
[RECOVERY][UNOFFICIAL] TWRP 3.0.2-2 touch recovery for ZTE Axon 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/a2017u-twrp-3-0-2-0-touch-recovery-zte-t3439603

Honor 9 vs OnePlus 5

Honor 9 vs OnePlus 5​
The Honor 9 has been compared to the OnePlus 5 many times in reviews. Both phones have similar specs, same price range and are two of the fastest phones available. This chart compares design, features, performance and usability of the two phones to see which is the better choice. Let me know what you think in the comments.
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Honor 9 due to its handy size for sure and the blue color. Wish to own one

I will get a honor when they match the developer friendliness of Oneplus/OPPO

Again and again the hard choice stock Android or customer skin ??

I bought the Honor 9 because the Op5 was $150 more. Would have opted for the Op5 but my budget just wouldn't allow me to.

Unfairand said:
I just hope that someone from USA should file a legal suit on Honor brand because they promised the same 2 year software update policy and launched H8 there, that would teach a lesson to them. Brands like these won't sustain in the long run and they will quickly fall from the current rise once consumers lose their confidence.
Moto recently faced a back lash from social media and users alike for not including g4 plus in Oreo update, later they apologized and updated the list.
Consumers won't forget anything soon and these kind of things definitely hamper a brand's image and reputation.
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The quick update moto died when lenovo bought them. it was easy to maintain and update almost stock rom when you only have 2 model lineup. now that they have c, e, g, m, x and z plus god knows how many lenovo models, I don't think they could keep up with the update demand.

Do you have any idea when they will launch Honor 9 in India ? I am really tempted by stylish Honor or should I go for Moto X 4? I prefer 5 inch phones for one handed use.

luckyboyme said:
Do you have any idea when they will launch Honor 9 in India ? I am really tempted by stylish Honor or should I go for Moto X 4? I prefer 5 inch phones for one handed use.
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No idea on launch date. Hope they launch soon. May be December end or January start. Lets see

having owned a honor 9 for a few months, i have to say the oneplus 5 is the better device, less bloated, and a much more enjoyable experience, also it's not trying to copy iOS.

ashypanda said:
having owned a honor 9 for a few months, i have to say the oneplus 5 is the better device, less bloated, and a much more enjoyable experience, also it's not trying to copy iOS.
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replace the stock launcher with Nova or other, change the theme and you'll get better looking interface. Op5 surely didn't copy iOS but it surely looks exactly like the iPhone 7 plus

Definitely honor 9..its a beauty..

Really, the Honor wins the comparison due to the color of it's body? I would never ever buy a phone in that color. The black of the OnePlus 5 is so beautiful. Oh, and they say in the last sentence about the OP5, "The bezels are large.". Sorry? How are the bezels larger than on the Honor?
This infographic is BS.

XDA looses credibility when this kind of sponsored BS is indistinguishable from a real reviews. this graphic looks nice, but doesn't really compare anything.

Unfairand said:
Very true, don't know why XDA agreed to promote such an inconsistent and not so dev. friendly brand??, op5 is miles ahead of Honor 9, stop comparing apples to oranges.
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Butthurt much? Sound like idiots apple fans

Unfairand said:
Never support anyone to buy Honor devices, they abandon the capable hardware by saying OS updates not possible due to compatibility issues with SOC, they did it with Honor 7. Bought Honor 8 for 29k INR over OnePlus 3, it's not even been a year since launch, now h8 retailing at half of the original price, where as op3 still selling at 26K INR, I regret my decision of buying and supporting Honor 8 over OP3 ,OP3 already into Oreo beta , where as Honor is trying to abandon the H8 with out updates, never buy these brands like Honor and Xiaomi, they are good for low cost cheap vfm mobiles where consumers look for pricing than to premium features, Lost trust in Honor brand, no developer friendliness, poor update support, they promised 2 year software update policy on H8, it got launched in Nov 2016 in India , just one year old and they abandoned the device already , and I suggest XDA don't lose their reputation by promoting such a kind of brand.
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Thank you for advice, it is a good reason to buy OP5. I still couldn't decide what phone is better, but support is definitely an important thing.

autoalex said:
Thank you for advice, it is a good reason to buy OP5. I still couldn't decide what phone is better, but support is definitely an important thing.
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I would go with the Op5 if the price is the same

pijes said:
I would go with the Op5 if the price is the same
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I use Samsung now, and I doubting to buy China phone

After getting my redmi note 3 prime and a taste of a amazing developer community. I will never ever buy a phone without that. Even though the Honor looks cool.

luckyboyme said:
Do you have any idea when they will launch Honor 9 in India ? I am really tempted by stylish Honor or should I go for Moto X 4? I prefer 5 inch phones for one handed use.
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Highly unlikely , they will not launch Honor 9,we already got the Honor 8 Pro which is better than Honor 9,better screen and camera + many more ... lets wait and see what honor will launch on 5th December..

rindikafanai said:
Highly unlikely , they will not launch Honor 9,we already got the Honor 8 Pro which is better than Honor 9,better screen and camera + many more ... lets wait and see what honor will launch on 5th December..
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Probably they will launch something with dual front cam and Bezel less body |OO| phone. May launch H9 as successor to H8 due to size and improved camera.