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I work for a cell phone company and very often see an issue with the xt720 where it freezes, but the lights at the bottom remain on. It can't be remedied unless you do a Battery pull.
My HD2 broke and my company has offered to let me buy the xt720 for very cheap, however I need a phone that won't constantly freeze on me.
so my question is - do the custom roms fix the freezing issue? And do the 2.2 roms help with the speed of the phone? I've read mixed reports.
thanks!
rkarsk said:
I work for a cell phone company and very often see an issue with the xt720 where it freezes, but the lights at the bottom remain on. It can't be remedied unless you do a Battery pull.
My HD2 broke and my company has offered to let me buy the xt720 for very cheap, however I need a phone that won't constantly freeze on me.
so my question is - do the custom roms fix the freezing issue? And do the 2.2 roms help with the speed of the phone? I've read mixed reports.
thanks!
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My feeling is that the freezing is related to crappy sd cards. In any case, once I replaced my sd card with a faster one that problem stopped even on stock 2.1. However, some people have problems even after replacing the sd card. So, there's likely some sort of sd card compatibility issue but I don't think anyone knows how to identify which sdcards will work and which ones won't. The one motorola shipped with XT720 is awful, though.
Same here. The Milestone XT720 came with a free 8GB Class 2 micro SDCard. When I replaced it with a class 10 the problem seemed to vanish.
But I also removed lookout so it might also be the culprit. Have to check on it...
Mioze7Ae said:
My feeling is that the freezing is related to crappy sd cards. In any case, once I replaced my sd card with a faster one that problem stopped even on stock 2.1. However, some people have problems even after replacing the sd card. So, there's likely some sort of sd card compatibility issue but I don't think anyone knows how to identify which sdcards will work and which ones won't. The one motorola shipped with XT720 is awful, though.
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Well most all the ones shipped with it were awful, They don't send the same one, I have 3 different brands with my best one being sandisk. And I think most of the time it is class 4 but I got one class 2. You could get lucky and get a decent brand. But Mz is right it is most def. an sdcard issue. tell them to throw in a kingston and it's a deal! lol. But if you get the sandisk I think you will be ok.
Hi rkarsk,
I understand that you are thinking about getting yourself this device. My advice "Don't Even Think". If its really cheap then go ahead. But If your looking for a better replacement for your previous device, then, its better If you don't consider this as an option. I must admit that we have great developers who work like hell to give us all the current features we are enjoying. Without them this phone is nothing now. Finally its up to you. But,remember this phone cannot do all that it promised in the advertisements and is also pretty outdated
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Hi rkarsk,
I understand that you are thinking about getting yourself this device. My advice "Don't Even Think". If its really cheap then go ahead. But If your looking for a better replacement for your previous device, then, its better If you don't consider this as an option. I must admit that we have great developers who work like hell to give us all the current features we are enjoying. Without them this phone is nothing now. Finally its up to you. But,remember this phone cannot do all that it promised in the advertisements and is also pretty outdated
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I don't know about that, I have a Nexus S now but still love my XT. It really depends on if you don't mind maintaining it by keeping up with this forum and flashing ROM's and updates. With the right ROM and the right tweaks it's a pretty darn good phone. Just my opinion, it's an issue where both sides could be right. If you are getting it real cheap and don't have the opportunity to get something better I would say go for it, and this way when the opportunity arises when you can get another, you will have this phone to play with. With CM7 on the edge of being complete I feel I might not even have needed my nexus S, but good thing I got my Nexus really cheap. But I enjoy maintaining the XT, I like flashing new things and seeing the improvements, kind of like a hobby and I am learning something.
I agree with you but if the phone is under $100 with no opportunity to get something better cheap can't really go wrong I guess
I agree. This phone has plenty of potential but it also takes time to learn the hacks. Otherwise you have a 2.1 with a good camera. Upgrade it, commit to getting the tweaks right for you and it is a worthwhile investment and hobby. Plus it works when you call people too.
You guys have sold me . I have lots of experience flashing roms so I don't think I will find it too daunting. Played with the phone at work today, not bad at all!
For those of you with no freezing issues could you please post the model of your sd card? Might narrow down my search for one if I have any issues (or help someone in the future).
cheers
32gb class 10 from Topram. Bought it on eBay. Have purchased from them before so I know they sell "real" cards.
What I also found is that you need to overclock this phone to get the best from it.
Get yourself "Milestone Overclock" from this forum or from the Android Market and push your phone to 1000Mhz.
I have it running like that 24/7 for almost 7 months on various ROMS even though they say to use it only on stock ROM, and I rarely have a lag problem. If you leave it on stock CPU settings it can get a bit frustrating!
LibertyMonger said:
I don't know about that, I have a Nexus S now but still love my XT. It really depends on if you don't mind maintaining it by keeping up with this forum and flashing ROM's and updates. With the right ROM and the right tweaks it's a pretty darn good phone. Just my opinion, it's an issue where both sides could be right. If you are getting it real cheap and don't have the opportunity to get something better I would say go for it, and this way when the opportunity arises when you can get another, you will have this phone to play with. With CM7 on the edge of being complete I feel I might not even have needed my nexus S, but good thing I got my Nexus really cheap. But I enjoy maintaining the XT, I like flashing new things and seeing the improvements, kind of like a hobby and I am learning something.
I agree with you but if the phone is under $100 with no opportunity to get something better cheap can't really go wrong I guess
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Ya, agree
Woodrube said:
I agree. This phone has plenty of potential but it also takes time to learn the hacks. Otherwise you have a 2.1 with a good camera. Upgrade it, commit to getting the tweaks right for you and it is a worthwhile investment and hobby. Plus it works when you call people too.
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I have a doubt, since Google acquired Motorola, Is there any change of the boot-loader being unlocked. If so, does it mean we can further push the limitations of this device?
rkarsk said:
You guys have sold me . I have lots of experience flashing roms so I don't think I will find it too daunting. Played with the phone at work today, not bad at all!
For those of you with no freezing issues could you please post the model of your sd card? Might narrow down my search for one if I have any issues (or help someone in the future).
cheers
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Welcome to the family
krishn said:
I have a doubt, since Google acquired Motorola, Is there any change of the boot-loader being unlocked. If so, does it mean we can further push the limitations of this device?
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Wow first I heard of that, Google is taking over the planet lol
krishn said:
I have a doubt, since Google acquired Motorola, Is there any change of the boot-loader being unlocked. If so, does it mean we can further push the limitations of this device?
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The XT bootloader was slated to be unlocked sometime in the last quarter of 2011, but here we are at the beginning of that quarter and nothing new. We can only upgrade only so far based on memory and other factors. At this point, I think that the CM7 builds are about as far as this phone can go. But hey, that is way better than the 2.1 that it was only given by the manufacturer.
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Wow first I heard of that, Google is taking over the planet lol
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Happened a few months ago, but I am pretty sure it isn't the whole Motorola company but just a piece of it. Can't remember exactly but there is a thread on it somewhere in here.
Woodrube said:
The XT bootloader was slated to be unlocked sometime in the last quarter of 2011, but here we are at the beginning of that quarter and nothing new. We can only upgrade only so far based on memory and other factors. At this point, I think that the CM7 builds are about as far as this phone can go. But hey, that is way better than the 2.1 that it was only given by the manufacturer.
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No, we've never been slated for an unlock. The conditions Motorola gave for unlocks are (1) carrier allows and (2) part of a regular update. We're never getting any updates.
Matt and Mark of Motorola support forums confirmed that XT720 isn't even on the table for unlocks (they've deleted their getsatisfaction so that thread is toast).
Ahh! I remember that now. Was just thinking and this thread popped in my mind.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123953&highlight=bootloader
i maybe only had 1 or 2 freezes but that was before i switched to CM6
since CM6 the phone has been rock solid
AllGamer said:
i maybe only had 1 or 2 freezes but that was before i switched to CM6
since CM6 the phone has been rock solid
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Are you using the SD card that came with the phone?
rkarsk said:
Are you using the SD card that came with the phone?
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yes, still using the original SD 8GB class 6 that came with the phone
and yes that card is very crappy, a few friends of mine we all got the phone the exact same day
both of them had their 8GB died on them
just replace it with a good 16GB or larger if you can afford it
Hi, so I have been using my MT since September. It is my first MT and happy with it. Currently running TG CM7 on it. However the phone started to freeze once in a while for like half a minute. Soft keys are not responding unless I turn off and back on the screen. These also happen when I was still using the stock rom. Also there are dust under the screen, and I heard that the only thing I can do is ask for a replacement.
I would like to ask y'all how to have a replacement of the MT? Should I call VM or is there any online help on their website (Because my English isn't that good)? Would they still let me have a replacement since I have it for about 10 months? Also I knew I should flash back to stock rom, but do I have to remove CWM as well? If so how do I do that?
Thank you for any kind of help.
gary93 said:
Hi, so I have been using my MT since September. It is my first MT and happy with it. Currently running TG CM7 on it. However the phone started to freeze once in a while for like half a minute. Soft keys are not responding unless I turn off and back on the screen. These also happen when I was still using the stock rom. Also there are dust under the screen, and I heard that the only thing I can do is ask for a replacement.
I would like to ask y'all how to have a replacement of the MT? Should I call VM or is there any online help on their website (Because my English isn't that good)? Would they still let me have a replacement since I have it for about 10 months? Also I knew I should flash back to stock rom, but do I have to remove CWM as well? If so how do I do that?
Thank you for any kind of help.
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The soft key non responsiveness is a hardware problem on all triumphs. I've heard alot of ppl say that happens to them. Mine does it too but not too often, and I also have a lil bit of dust under my screen but I can only see it when its extremely bright outside.
If those two things really bug you, I wouldn't get another phone because they might be present with then new (refurbished) phone you get from them.
If you want a replacement, I have found that the best way to get in touch with them is through the VM social care dept. Don't call and talk to tech support. It can get really annoying. Instead send an email to [email protected], leave a comment on Virgin Mobile USA's Facebook page, or tweet @VMUCARE on Twitter.
When I had to have a few things fixed on my account, these guys helped me out right away!
As far as getting a replacement, I'm pretty sure you can up to a year from the purchase date. And I've heard of ppl sending their phones back to them with CM7 still installed, but I would re-install the stock rom just to be safe.
Good luck with everything and hope I could help!
CornfedChris said:
The soft key non responsiveness is a hardware problem on all triumphs. I've heard alot of ppl say that happens to them. Mine does it too but not too often, and I also have a lil bit of dust under my screen but I can only see it when its extremely bright outside.
If those two things really bug you, I wouldn't get another phone because they might be present with then new (refurbished) phone you get from them.
If you want a replacement, I have found that the best way to get in touch with them is through the VM social care dept. Don't call and talk to tech support. It can get really annoying. Instead send an email to [email protected], leave a comment on Virgin Mobile USA's Facebook page, or tweet @VMUCARE on Twitter.
When I had to have a few things fixed on my account, these guys helped me out right away!
As far as getting a replacement, I'm pretty sure you can up to a year from the purchase date. And I've heard of ppl sending their phones back to them with CM7 still installed, but I would re-install the stock rom just to be safe.
Good luck with everything and hope I could help!
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Thank you for the tips! May I also ask, when I bought my MT in BestBuy, I had also bought the 1 or 2 years warranty thing. Does that do anything with replacing the phone? Or could I just take it to BestBuy to ask for replacement?
Thanks again =)
gary93 said:
Thank you for the tips! May I also ask, when I bought my MT in BestBuy, I had also bought the 1 or 2 years warranty thing. Does that do anything with replacing the phone? Or could I just take it to BestBuy to ask for replacement?
Thanks again =)
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I believe since you bought the warranty through Best Buy you can just go back there and have them replace the phone for you. Just mention the hardware problems to them and I don't see why they wouldn't. From what I have heard, a lot of Best Buy associates are familiar with the Triumph's problems and that it has been returned a lot and automatically know why your there haha. Weather they will give you a brand new one, or have VM send you a refurb... I'm not exactly sure.
Hi,
This is my first post and i opened an account to get help for my new HTC 8x. This is my first smartphone too. Bought it about a month ago from Ebay UK. But the phone came out to be a problem for me. I am a noob and finally i came to know that this is a demo phone.
1. I took some pictures, loaded some videos but next day the phone automatically delete all these including my customization. How to stop it doing that?
2. It will automatically show a demonstration screen after 3 minutes. How can i remove that?
3. I can not add my own email/facebook/twitter accounts. Even i can not use outlook.
I can still use this phone if i can manage to get a solution for above 3 problems. This is first high tech phone for me in exchange of my hard earned money. Please suggest and help.
I have no option to return the phone back as it is already 15 days over.
Thanks.
Any helper out there?
Any helper out there?
shaoun1000 said:
Hi,
This is my first post and i opened an account to get help for my new HTC 8x. This is my first smartphone too. Bought it about a month ago from Ebay UK. But the phone came out to be a problem for me. I am a noob and finally i came to know that this is a demo phone.
1. I took some pictures, loaded some videos but next day the phone automatically delete all these including my customization. How to stop it doing that?
2. It will automatically show a demonstration screen after 3 minutes. How can i remove that?
3. I can not add my own email/facebook/twitter accounts. Even i can not use outlook.
I can still use this phone if i can manage to get a solution for above 3 problems. This is first high tech phone for me in exchange of my hard earned money. Please suggest and help.
I have no option to return the phone back as it is already 15 days over.
Thanks.
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So sorry to hear that you have a problem with the phone.
I am not sure if I can really be of any help to you, but I will try to get some insights into this from other people I know.
Do you have these issues right from the beginning?
Did you try reset your phone? Reset option is under settings > about
I think the phone is programmed to behave that way.
See generally a demo phone is where people will take photos to test the camera, etc. and these things are automatically cleared each day,
making it a fresh for other customers.
Demonstration screen, same, to demonstrate the phone to the customer.
And generally demo phones won't allow you to add any accounts, since the phone is only for demo.
To overcome these issues, you have to flash a different ROM, if you are sure that is a UK phone, then you can try flashing the generic
ROM for UK phone, that should remove the existing version and install a usable version. THIS IS JUST AN IDEA. Please do thorough research
before flashing any ROM.
Meanwhile if I have anything to help you, I will post back here.
Good luck!
Hamsn said:
So sorry to hear that you have a problem with the phone.
I am not sure if I can really be of any help to you, but I will try to get some insights into this from other people I know.
Do you have these issues right from the beginning?
Did you try reset your phone? Reset option is under settings > about
I think the phone is programmed to behave that way.
See generally a demo phone is where people will take photos to test the camera, etc. and these things are automatically cleared each day,
making it a fresh for other customers.
Demonstration screen, same, to demonstrate the phone to the customer.
And generally demo phones won't allow you to add any accounts, since the phone is only for demo.
To overcome these issues, you have to flash a different ROM, if you are sure that is a UK phone, then you can try flashing the generic
ROM for UK phone, that should remove the existing version and install a usable version. THIS IS JUST AN IDEA. Please do thorough research
before flashing any ROM.
Meanwhile if I have anything to help you, I will post back here.
Good luck!
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This is from UK. Where i can get generic rom. Sorry for my noob question. But i am really new in this field.
Thanks.
for the 2nd time in less then 2months, my nexus 5 was friggin stolen today. The first time, while i was pretty upset, I turned it into a positive, cause I wanted the White one in the first place, and I ended up being able ot get a brand new white one as a replacement. but this time, I am sooooo damn pissed. My replacement (another 100$ later) will be here in 3-5days, and this time, I am like chaining that thing to me.
My damn GF left it sitting at the table in McDonalds. She was supposed to grab our stuff, while I put our garbage in the bin and went and started the car, about 5min after leaving, i asked for my phone....no phone, turn around go back, NO PHONE !
And at least last time I had my LG G2 as a backup phone so I had something nice to use while I waited for a replacement. But I since have sold the G2, and all I ahve is a Verizon Galaxy S3, which doesn't help me at all cause my Verizon account was closed back when the Nexus 5 came out cause I wanted that phone so bad, that I switched to T-Mobile. So now I got nothing but hte home phone, which today was the first time I've used a home phone in years, it was kinda weird lol.
Anyways, obviously this isn't a question or anything, and I apologize to the Mods for that, but this is the only site in which I can talk about what happened and have people know my pain, and I needed to vent, cause twice in less then 60 days is friggin BS to the 10th power. I've never lost a phone or had one stolen or even had to file a claim for phone insurance, in all the years of owning phones, which I am going on 10years (first phone when i was 17, and am 27 now)....I swear ! if someone takes my next Nexus 5, I am going postal up in whatever place it was that I had it taken from. lol
Sorry to hear about this, very unfortunate. Any luck tracking the device using the find my phone feature? Clutch your new phones tightly folks.
Damn man.. I feel for you. That sucks big time I would be so pissed if my gf left my phone at McDonalds lol. Hopefully you have better luck on the next one mate!
By the way, prepare for some random douche coming in to be an ass to you for posting this story
Dang. That sucks dude. I got mugged for my HTC one a couple weeks ago. Couldn't afford to buy another so went with the nexus 5. No brained really. This phone is awesome. Not missing the one too much. I gotta tell you tho. At least you lost it and didn't get a knife or worse pulled out. For future reference kit Kat has location always on. Even with the low accuracy setting, you should be able to find it with lookout if installed but I highly recommend android device manager. You'll find it in the play store.
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whozilla said:
Dang. That sucks dude. I got mugged for my HTC one a couple weeks ago. Couldn't afford to buy another so went with the nexus 5. No brained really. This phone is awesome. Not missing the one too much. I gotta tell you tho. At least you lost it and didn't get a knife or worse pulled out. For future reference kit Kat has location always on. Even with the low accuracy setting, you should be able to find it with lookout if installed but I highly recommend android device manager. You'll find it in the play store.
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damn. I am assuming you weren't able to use a FIND MY PHONE type app either ? My T-Mobile protection plan comes with a premium account for Lookout mobile, which when it works is great, but if they take out the simcard and reset it, before you can locate it, its useless. Last time, i wasn't able to do it either, but that was cause like 2 hours before it got jacked I had just factory reset/wiped system, to install a test build of a ROM I've been working on (first ROM I've done that wasn't based of CM or AOSPA, building this one straight from stock AOSP source, just like the Nexus stock firmware is. And adding my own features instead of using others. Tho I did add Halo, cause i love that feature lol as well as app bar, which works in tandem if you set it up right. But enough OT lol) So yea, since I had just flashed that, and was test driving it, didn't have Device Manager or Lookout installed. This time, it just didn't work.
I am really sorry to hear that happened to you bro. I remember back when FIND MY PHONE apps were first becoming relevant, this dude here in Seattle was mugged and they took his iPhone 3G (think it was the 3GS actually) and he had the official iPhone one (which is through iCloud now, I have it for my iPad AIR, which OT again, is my first iOS device since my 4th Gen iPod touch, and I will never be an iPhone guy, but I am loving the iPad. I want that damn 12.1 Note Pro tho lol) and he was able to get the GPS data (which was all that it did back then, as well as Wipe, the Scream feature, and Lock, didn't have signal flare or Lock Cam, etc etc, like we do now) and he gave it to the SPD, and they were able to track it back to both suspects, retrieve the phone, all the money minus 12.59$ and the rest of the wallet contents as well as his jewelry. that was the incident that made the popularity of those apps take off, while also showing the need for such apps, and the need for better refinement of their functionality etc etc.
They need to find a way around people being able to shut it off. There has to be some type of feature that makes it so there is absolutely no way for them to take wipe the phone without A.) the password, which already exists as a feature B.) a special docking device or Computer USB cable that enables the Wipe feature (albeit, this could be bypassed via custom recovery I guess) and finally C.) bringing it to the phones carrier and proving ownership, etc etc. The simcard being removed should have nothing to do with it. But apparently removing that, and wiping the device negates the whole purpose of that feature. So what can you really do.
People are dumb, Steal a phone and within seconds you can wipe and remove simcard, and then the only thing the owner can do is report it and blacklist it, which even then can be gone around if you know how to use the proper JTAG device or if you plan on selling it, or using it, overseas. cause their blacklists obviously don't coincide with our's here in the US. I personally had a friend who legitimately bought an S4 for T-Mobile, and then the dude (this was through craigslist, another reason why swappa is better, so there is accountability at least and proof of purchase and authorized sale of said device) reported the device lost or stolen within minutes of the sale. So he gets the money, and a replacement phone and my buddy is screwed. But he found someone with a JTAG device that rewrote the IMEI (WHICH I do not condone, and is actually ILLEGAL, only mentioning it as part of this topic) and he is still using it on T-Mobile today.
How did you get a replacement? Was it from Google?
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Just checked my email, and found two things that made me even more upset about this. First one was a notification of a PM here on XDA from the Dev's of Nameless ROM, responding to my request to be a Mainter for the Nexus 5 version of their ROM. which I've been wanting to do for awhile now, to help learn more about Development while also giving back to the community in whatever way I can until I finish my own ROM and App.
Second, was an Email from someone who must of seen my request on Google+, about getting an Invite to the new Aviate Launcher beta, which I've been intrigued by for quite sometime, and finally got my invite code. No phone to use it on. I have an S3 from my Verizon days, that I keep for backup, but pointless sine I dont have verizon now, and for the life of me can't find the battery for haha. Hopefully my friend can find the T-Mobile version of the S3 he has, and said I could use til my replacement got back .I always liked the S3, and my S4,. and especially my Note 3 (want that damn 12.1 Note Pro...already said thta tho haha) the only thing I liked better was the Nexus 5. The G2 would be my 2nd fave if it wasn't for that damn UI of theirs which is a obvious kang of TouchWiz, but dont wrong, and bloated up even more so. Which TouchWiz is already pretty damn heavy and resource hungry, well from time with the G2 as secondary device before giving it to one of my bandmates, I can tell you, it is bogged down soooooo much. That UI is holding that device back from being an top 5 android phone. But that camera is one of the best. Which reminds me of how much I want the 1020 or 1520 to come out on T-Mobile, cause I want that camera and I also want to try out a WP, but all the ones on T-Mobile are crap. Anyways......Stupid theives, ruinned my day. I wanna try AVIATE so bad.
Guess I can give invites now, so if anyone wants one , post here and let me know and your wish shall be granted......if you post a video of you doing a double backflip and saying my username 3 times fast.....haha, that would make this day better for me too
Silicon Knight said:
Just checked my email, and found two things that made me even more upset about this. First one was a notification of a PM here on XDA from the Dev's of Nameless ROM, responding to my request to be a Mainter for the Nexus 5 version of their ROM. which I've been wanting to do for awhile now, to help learn more about Development while also giving back to the community in whatever way I can until I finish my own ROM and App.
Second, was an Email from someone who must of seen my request on Google+, about getting an Invite to the new Aviate Launcher beta, which I've been intrigued by for quite sometime, and finally got my invite code. No phone to use it on. I have an S3 from my Verizon days, that I keep for backup, but pointless sine I dont have verizon now, and for the life of me can't find the battery for haha. Hopefully my friend can find the T-Mobile version of the S3 he has, and said I could use til my replacement got back .I always liked the S3, and my S4,. and especially my Note 3 (want that damn 12.1 Note Pro...already said thta tho haha) the only thing I liked better was the Nexus 5. The G2 would be my 2nd fave if it wasn't for that damn UI of theirs which is a obvious kang of TouchWiz, but dont wrong, and bloated up even more so. Which TouchWiz is already pretty damn heavy and resource hungry, well from time with the G2 as secondary device before giving it to one of my bandmates, I can tell you, it is bogged down soooooo much. That UI is holding that device back from being an top 5 android phone. But that camera is one of the best. Which reminds me of how much I want the 1020 or 1520 to come out on T-Mobile, cause I want that camera and I also want to try out a WP, but all the ones on T-Mobile are crap. Anyways......Stupid theives, ruinned my day. I wanna try AVIATE so bad.
Guess I can give invites now, so if anyone wants one , post here and let me know and your wish shall be granted......if you post a video of you doing a double backflip and saying my username 3 times fast.....haha, that would make this day better for me too
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I would love an invite. Sorry bout your phone.
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My damn GF left it sitting at the table in McDonalds.
does this count as stolen? well i know what i would do (hand it back) but this was just a unlucky situation.... and i hope you learned your lesson here bro...
GL
Silicon Knight said:
damn. I am assuming you weren't able to use a FIND MY PHONE type app either ? My T-Mobile protection plan comes with a premium account for Lookout mobile, which when it works is great, but if they take out the simcard and reset it, before you can locate it, its useless. Last time, i wasn't able to do it either, but that was cause like 2 hours before it got jacked I had just factory reset/wiped system, to install a test build of a ROM I've been working on (first ROM I've done that wasn't based of CM or AOSPA, building this one straight from stock AOSP source, just like the Nexus stock firmware is. And adding my own features instead of using others. Tho I did add Halo, cause i love that feature lol as well as app bar, which works in tandem if you set it up right. But enough OT lol) So yea, since I had just flashed that, and was test driving it, didn't have Device Manager or Lookout installed. This time, it just didn't work.
I am really sorry to hear that happened to you bro. I remember back when FIND MY PHONE apps were first becoming relevant, this dude here in Seattle was mugged and they took his iPhone 3G (think it was the 3GS actually) and he had the official iPhone one (which is through iCloud now, I have it for my iPad AIR, which OT again, is my first iOS device since my 4th Gen iPod touch, and I will never be an iPhone guy, but I am loving the iPad. I want that damn 12.1 Note Pro tho lol) and he was able to get the GPS data (which was all that it did back then, as well as Wipe, the Scream feature, and Lock, didn't have signal flare or Lock Cam, etc etc, like we do now) and he gave it to the SPD, and they were able to track it back to both suspects, retrieve the phone, all the money minus 12.59$ and the rest of the wallet contents as well as his jewelry. that was the incident that made the popularity of those apps take off, while also showing the need for such apps, and the need for better refinement of their functionality etc etc.
They need to find a way around people being able to shut it off. There has to be some type of feature that makes it so there is absolutely no way for them to take wipe the phone without A.) the password, which already exists as a feature B.) a special docking device or Computer USB cable that enables the Wipe feature (albeit, this could be bypassed via custom recovery I guess) and finally C.) bringing it to the phones carrier and proving ownership, etc etc. The simcard being removed should have nothing to do with it. But apparently removing that, and wiping the device negates the whole purpose of that feature. So what can you really do.
People are dumb, Steal a phone and within seconds you can wipe and remove simcard, and then the only thing the owner can do is report it and blacklist it, which even then can be gone around if you know how to use the proper JTAG device or if you plan on selling it, or using it, overseas. cause their blacklists obviously don't coincide with our's here in the US. I personally had a friend who legitimately bought an S4 for T-Mobile, and then the dude (this was through craigslist, another reason why swappa is better, so there is accountability at least and proof of purchase and authorized sale of said device) reported the device lost or stolen within minutes of the sale. So he gets the money, and a replacement phone and my buddy is screwed. But he found someone with a JTAG device that rewrote the IMEI (WHICH I do not condone, and is actually ILLEGAL, only mentioning it as part of this topic) and he is still using it on T-Mobile today.
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When I got mugged I wasn't using any of the find my phone apps. I feel like I use them now out of paranoia but I don't feel 100% secure. Is it the best best? I think so. The device manager is good when couples with kit Kat. The best iv seen so far. As you can imagine, when I picked up my n5 I simulated the device being stollen. I had my girlfriend take the phone for a walk. She powered it off. Then on. It gave me her location for both moments and I had the option to wipe. Will I find my phone? Probably not but its better than being paranoid. I wish there was a way to activate tracking regardless of phone on or off or reset. It should be a system setting that locks the feature in once you report it lost or stolen. If the NSA can do it. Why can't we?
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How did you get a replacement? Was it from Google?
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No, I go through T-mobile for service, but my friend had an upgrade he wasn't going to use, cause he has the HTC One Max that he bought outright and doesn't wanna change anytime soon (plus he owed me money) so he let me use it, and I got the White Nexus 5 for 49.99$ so technically I still have a claim (still good for a lil over 30 days, they give you 60days to pay teh deductible once the claim is approved) that I can use to get one. That deductible is 90$ (when I lost my Note 3, OMG they wanted like 175$) so I can get two Nexus 5's. So this time, I believe I will pay both deductibles when i get paid next week, then sell both, buy a 32GB white one from Google, and then use the rest too pay that months bill on T-mobile !
Then if it happens again, I am gonna be pissed, cause I don't think I will be able to file another claim. Don't even know if sprint or T-mobile or AT&T etc etc, offer insurance if you buy the phone from Google instead of them. Which is a good question, if anyone happens to know the answer to it, please let me know. Or else I will google it, and I don't wanna google it, cause I am in the midst of a 40day 40day, vow of no-googlesearch. Not joking. I've always been pretty good at comprehension, reading and vocabulary skills (music being my main skill, since it was a skill my parents and family nurtured from a young age. Played my first guitar solo back when the guitar was still taller then me lol) And my parents always made me look things up when i asked what a word meant extra, but now google has made us, especially me, lazy. So i wanna prove that I can still function intelligently without using Google to answer unknown questions, by instead researching by talking to people experience in whatever subject etc etc. This may sound so dumb to many of you, but I think it's a good idea to do at least once after being the first generation raised on the Internet (I am 27 and I've had an email since I was 10yrs old lol)
OT - (not that this whole thing has not become OT, I am just so damn bored without my phone right now, homealone for the night, GF at work, and no band pratice, this is normally phone mod and/or dev time, but I need my phone for that, tho i could do some work on my App without it, but that makes me sad right now, cause i want my phone haha)......ANYWAYS - I've yet to meet a single other musician, let alone, a Guitarist, on this Site and I've been a member since 2011. If anyone who see's this is a Musician, especially a Guitarist and Producer/Engineer (just graduated Music School, Music Production/Audio Engineering & Music Theory/General Music) say wats up in here, and let me know I am not the only Musician who's a closet tech/android/computer geek lol
Silicon Knight said:
.ANYWAYS - I've yet to meet a single other musician, let alone, a Guitarist, on this Site and I've been a member since 2011. If anyone who see's this is a Musician, especially a Guitarist and Producer/Engineer (just graduated Music School, Music Production/Audio Engineering & Music Theory/General Music) say wats up in here, and let me know I am not the only Musician who's a closet tech/android/computer geek lol
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I'm also a musician/guitarist/vocalist/percussionist/pianist that dabbles in sound engineering. I'm not going to school for that sort of thing, but it's still a huge chunk of my life, and I also spend a lot of time messing around with Android.
You know what I just realized? Girlfriends and nexus devices don't mix. My girlfriend stepped on my N7 and shattered the digitizer. LCD is still good tho. This was about a month ago. I'll replace it myself. Just too busy with my N5
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Device Manager comes enabled by default. You should be able to log into your google account and find the location or lock or wipe the phone from your pc. Just google Device Manager
Look into the app called Cerberus.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus
Flash the hidden version from the following link via a custom recovery:
https://www.cerberusapp.com/download.php
It'll survive a factory reset, email you the info from any unauthorized SIM card someone puts into it (including the phone number, service provider, & subscriber ID), and as long as the phone has service you can still control it (lock it with a pin, ...) through text messages (no internet connection required).
Also, the paid license is valid for up to 4 (maybe 5) devices. I have it installed on my girlfriend's, brother's, mother's, and my phone. As far as those apps go, it's the best I've found.
Better luck in the future
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Don't mean to sound rude, and it's harsh it went missing, but why did you 1. Leave your phone on the table in a public space, and 2. rely on your girlfriend to pick it up? My phone is in my pocket unless it's in my hand or on my work desk. I would never leave it in the open for anyone to take. Maybe I'm just less trusting of those around me but at least you're insurance covered things to an extent. Lesson learnt (I hope)
Same thought here, why would you ever leave your device on the table ? I´m not paranoid, I use a antitheft app just in case I somehow manage to lose my device.
What also seems to help against muggers or similar bad dudes is a rather "ugly" or very plain and simple looking case. A Spigen Slim Armor "smooth black" is a nice case but it also makes your phone look from far away as being a cheap, generic smartphone
EddyOS said:
Don't mean to sound rude, and it's harsh it went missing, but why did you 1. Leave your phone on the table in a public space, and 2. rely on your girlfriend to pick it up? My phone is in my pocket unless it's in my hand or on my work desk. I would never leave it in the open for anyone to take. Maybe I'm just less trusting of those around me but at least you're insurance covered things to an extent. Lesson learnt (I hope)
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[RECENTLY OVERHEARD CONVERSATION IN TIMES SQUARE]
A: Can I borrow your phone?
B: Where's yours?
A: I left it on the table in Starbucks for one second, turned around, and it was gone.
B: Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
A: I only took two steps away!
B: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
A: Shut up!
B: HAHAHA! You freakin' idiot! HAHAHA!
@Silicon Knight - just out of curiosity, did you contact the McD management to see if their cameras picked up anything? If they are unwilling to discuss, file a police report (if you haven't already done so), and get them to review their recordings
I feel like the average person stealing a phone would not know about android device manager and you could track it.
Ps: This isn't Q&A, Help, and troubleshooting problem.
I was so sick of incomplete OS, I returned my device after only 3 days of usage..I wanted to keep it, but there was no guarantee of OS update in coming future. Current customized OS by BLU was very frustrating.
Yes, I fill your pain. My phone arrived on Wednesday and there are a number of small issues that add up to frustration. The good news is if root can be obtained these issues can be bypassed.
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Yes, I fill your pain. My phone arrived on Wednesday and there are a number of small issues that add up to frustration. The good news is if root can be obtained these issues can be bypassed.
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If it can be achieved and even I am losing patience with BLU.
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The Gold has gone out of stock and then back in stock while the Grey has remained out of stock the entire time. I called Blu's sales office again(who lied on release day about it being Amazon's fault) and again they said that it was Amazons fault and i needed to contact them to see when the phone would be available. These freakin people, how do you run a company like this?
I'm a phone junkie. I buy a new phone at least once a year and I've had many Android phones starting with the G1. I've rooted every single one of them except the Blu Pure XL. While I would prefer the control that root would give me this is still a good phone and a great value. I guess what I'm trying to say is I agree that Blu's support isn't great but that's the value proposition they're offering. You are not going to get phone hardware as good as this *and* good support at this price. It's just not possible for a company to offer that. I for one, am OK with supporting the phone myself if it means I can get hardware as good as this for half the price of what another company would charge. At the very least we're saving $200 (probably more). Are better support and software updates really worth paying $200+ more?
Yes, the software (Amigo Os) takes a little getting used to. There are some things missing from this build of Android but there are some features it has that standard Android doesn't that I like. Overall the software is not bad but just different. I for one don't need to be exactly the same as everyone else; I'm happy with the phone and expect to use it for a long time even if we never get root.
Not sure if I can live without root. I will install an AT&T Sim in the Pure XL on Saturday and test.
If I had root all the little OS problems will be resolved. Nice hardware but, the software needs work.
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For me, this phone is complete enough and it's awesome for the price. I don't know what you mean by incomplete because it's awesome for me. I installed Go Launcher and it's awesome. 6in, high resolution, comes with 2 cases, great speakers for the price, microsd, otg cable, screen protector, fingerprint sensor, and no lag.
I am on the happy side too. I've gotten mostly used to the settings. I installed Google Now Launcher and it works for me. I got this phone for the dual SIM which is awesome. I would have spent this much for a new contract phone with my carrier phone anyway and probably had less memory and still had to keep carrying a second phone. This has a big display and I haven't even bothered to put my SD card back in yet. GPS has detected my location accurately, so no complaints there. Yes, I know updates are not the most timely from Blu by history. This phone off contract with a carrier if by the manufacturer would be like what $650, $700 easy? So I can't complain. This phone does its job in full for me, and I didn't even have to buy a case as it came with two and a screen protector too and headphones, plus quick charger and small USB cable too.
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Anyone kind of wondering whether or not the Grey edition actually exists? Its now over a month since the 'launch' date, the gold unit has been in and out of stock several times on Amazon with no sign of the Grey aside from the "Temporarily out of stock" label that hasnt changed once. The way that they keep blaming Amazon when its clearly NOT THEIR FAULT really makes me wonder what a company like this is capable of. If the Grey unit never shows, and it was only the Gold all along, I guess i just wouldnt be surprised one bit at this point.
Come to think of it, I dont believe that ive seen any video reviews of this phone that werent the Gold version.
For $349 its a steal. I'm keeping mine even if they don't upgrade it or it never gets root.
I have it set up the way I need and only go into settings to enable tethering.
badMojo69 said:
For $349 its a steal. I'm keeping mine even if they don't upgrade it or it never gets root.
I have it set up the way I need and only go into settings to enable tethering.
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Yep. Phone works great for me. Having root would be ideal but not having it isn't a deal breaker. I would prefer that Android Pay worked but I can live without it (it's more of a novelty item at this point).
Someone please help me I have the pure xl and I can't change my lockscrren wallpaper the be different from my home screen I have tried custom but non allow my fingerprint security option please help
Charmed_star said:
Someone please help me I have the pure xl and I can't change my lockscrren wallpaper the be different from my home screen I have tried custom but non allow my fingerprint security option please help
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I don't think that's possible unless you use custom lock screen. Is there any custom lock that will support our fingerprint reader ?
aim1999x said:
I don't think that's possible unless you use custom lock screen. Is there any custom lock that will support our fingerprint reader ?
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Honestly I've looked for several lockscreens and none support our fingerprint scanner I really hope its possible because I really love this phone but that's important to me
I went through the manual and didn't see how to change default apps. I don't see the option in settings. Also trusted devices options. Anyone know how to access these ?
aim1999x said:
I went through the manual and didn't see how to change default apps. I don't see the option in settings. Also trusted devices options. Anyone know how to access these ?
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Not sure where the menu choice is, but it randomly asks me if I want to set my watch as a trusted device. I'll poke around next time (it might happen when you first pair a device, i'll check that out). For default apps, if you go to the app's settings and scroll down to "Launch by default" and hit "Clear defaults" you can select a new default app and depending on the action it may prompt you to do that.
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Not sure where the menu choice is, but it randomly asks me if I want to set my watch as a trusted device. I'll poke around next time (it might happen when you first pair a device, i'll check that out). For default apps, if you go to the app's settings and scroll down to "Launch by default" and hit "Clear defaults" you can select a new default app and depending on the action it may prompt you to do that.
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Unfortunately you can't do that for default music and email clients. It says no defaults set. I mostly use google music but when I press music in my car it starts default music app. It is annoying. Same thing for gestures. E and M will start default apps as well. Which is useless to me as I use nine for email because default email doesn't work with office 365 exchange mail.