Hi,
So, it seems this phone is available in two different models:
701L
703L
What is the difference between them really?
Also, where would a person in Sweden buy this thing? I promised myself I would buy the P8max whenever it was released in Sweden when I first found out about this device (April this year). Sadly, it was never released here. BUT, now in the last few days there's a store in Sweden selling it. But they have a really poor reputation and they do not mention a flip cover. I will ask them tomorrow if they include it or not. Then we have this site (Honormi) which I have seen from time to time since I first heard about this device. They seem to have a nice support when reading the comment section further down and they include the flip cover. Also, they provide the 32GB version which is enough for me I think. If the Swedish store won't come through I am hoping Honormi will and that it actually might be cheaper due to the fact of the already lower price and the fact that the 32GB version is even cheaper than the 64GB.
703L = China version, full suite of features
701L = International version, slightly more crippled in features
If you want constant updates, buy 703L... if you want something that prob works internationally, get 701L.... but generally, 703L works internationally and has a lot more features compared to 701L....
Do u need full 4G(LTE) or not? Thats the only hardware difference.
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
Do u need full 4G(LTE) or not? Thats the only hardware difference.
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I actually do not know if I need LTE, so maybe the answer is no. I read another thread here where I got the impression that the difference between HSPDA/3G and LTE were almost not noticeable. Reading "rathian" and your answers; are you saying that the 703L may have issues with LTE here in Europe/Sweden?
In case someone else want to know:
The swedish reseller linked in my original post do not supply a flip cover. Also, even though the web page state that the item is in stock it is not. When I asked they said that it would be in stock in 3-7 days. Several of the reviews for this reseller actually state that the "in stock" information was incorrect and changed back and forth all the time.
You will get LTE if your provider has the supported LTE Bands from the PMax, since I dont have LTE in my contract andIi wont get it in the next 2 years i took the Chinese Version causr i prefer updates over maybe some faster mobile connections!
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
You will get LTE if your provider has the supported LTE Bands from the PMax, since I dont have LTE in my contract andIi wont get it in the next 2 years i took the Chinese Version causr i prefer updates over maybe some faster mobile connections!
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703L comes with the free cover..
701L does not come with the free cover..
I bought 703L, but never used the cover cos its crap... I bought a clear soft shell for the 703L to show off the nice gold colour around the phone..
poLiSen said:
Hi,
So, it seems this phone is available in two different models:
701L
703L
What is the difference between them really?
Also, where would a person in Sweden buy this thing? I promised myself I would buy the P8max whenever it was released in Sweden when I first found out about this device (April this year). Sadly, it was never released here. BUT, now in the last few days there's a store in Sweden selling it. But they have a really poor reputation and they do not mention a flip cover. I will ask them tomorrow if they include it or not. Then we have this site (Honormi) which I have seen from time to time since I first heard about this device. They seem to have a nice support when reading the comment section further down and they include the flip cover. Also, they provide the 32GB version which is enough for me I think. If the Swedish store won't come through I am hoping Honormi will and that it actually might be cheaper due to the fact of the already lower price and the fact that the 32GB version is even cheaper than the 64GB.
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it's really hard to find information about this p8 max and huawei is not a big help. The last 3 weeks i google so much and this is
my status now:
P8max and LTE bands:
DAV-701L 1 3 7 20
DAV-702L 1 3 7
DAV-703L 1 3 7
DAV-713L 1 3
but really i am not sure if this is all right.
When i look at the models of the x2 it seems a little bit the same:
X2 and LTE bands:
GEM-701L 1 3 7 20
GEM-702L 1 3 7 8 28
GEM-703L 1 3 7
again: i can not promise if this is right.
for more then 2 weeks (4.1.2016) i order the normal P8 in purple for my wife (not the max) from honormi.com, and today i will receive it. I think the shop is good, the only thing are the 17 days to wait
But i will also order the p8 max from honormi.com coz the price is okay for the tittanium grey p8 max.
cheers, Peter
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
You will get LTE if your provider has the supported LTE Bands from the PMax, since I dont have LTE in my contract andIi wont get it in the next 2 years i took the Chinese Version causr i prefer updates over maybe some faster mobile connections!
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Regarding the LTE bands I think the 703L supports the most important ones here in Sweden. But I am not sure at all. Anyway, do you have any examples as to which software features are missing on the 701L? I have a hard time deciding between them.
Currently my thoughts go like this:
If I choose 701L I am almost sure I have full LTE support and I will probably have Google applications installed from the beginning and if so, I can be fairly sure these applications have no weird trojans or something
If I choose 703L I will have all software features for the P8Max and receive updates more quickly but maybe have some weird trojan version of Google Play Store and other Google applications since it's downloaded from an app store I do not know anything about
rathian said:
703L comes with the free cover..
701L does not come with the free cover..
I bought 703L, but never used the cover cos its crap... I bought a clear soft shell for the 703L to show off the nice gold colour around the phone..
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Thanks, I did not know this. Please tell us why the cover is crap. I can confirm Honormi sell the P8Max (703L) with the cover included. It is listed as "flip cover" but I think they actually mean the "Dot Matrix Cover". See my response at Honormi:
| From Anton | 2016-01-20 19:13:44
| The included "Flip cover" is it the "Smart Magnetic Dot-matrix Leather Flip Protective Case" or do I have to add this item myself?
| administrator
| Dear Sir,
| The Smart Magnetic Dot-matrix Leather Flip Protective Case is included in the hauwei p8 max order,
| Buy huawei p8 max order in honormi shop enjoy big discount and free case and free screen protector.
| Hope above info. are helpful to you.our customer are always here to serve you,thanks and have a great day.
| Huawei P8 Max International Mobile Shop/Honormi.com
greddy said:
it's really hard to find information about this p8 max and huawei is not a big help. The last 3 weeks i google so much and this is
my status now:
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for more then 2 weeks (4.1.2016) i order the normal P8 in purple for my wife (not the max) from honormi.com, and today i will receive it. I think the shop is good, the only thing are the 17 days to wait
But i will also order the p8 max from honormi.com coz the price is okay for the tittanium grey p8 max.
cheers, Peter
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Great! Let us know when you have received the phone and tell us what you think about it. My current phone is a Motorola Nexus 6 with a totally broken display (screen is black) so I really need a new phone. Even though the Nexus 6 is six inches I feel I could use a bigger phone. I hate typing on these small things! I really hope your information about the 703L supporting band 20 is correct. If that is the case it should have full LTE support here in Sweden. But again, I am not sure. Can't say that I am an expert at these things at all.
I've got the p8max - the build quality is really nice & the battery life is actually close to what was advertised.
If you're a regular mortal looking for a big phone, there's nothing better out there at this moment.
However, if you're planning to do some rom development - forget about Huawei. They're always late to the update game, & they don't comply to GPL; the sources released are botched.
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I've got the p8max - the build quality is really nice & the battery life is actually close to what was advertised.
If you're a regular mortal looking for a big phone, there's nothing better out there at this moment.
However, if you're planning to do some rom development - forget about Huawei. They're always late to the update game, & they don't comply to GPL; the sources released are botched.
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Thanks. That's what I am thinking. I just want a nice browsing and reading/typing experience. This phone should suit me. Too bad they don't comply with GPL though. Would be nice with an eventual Android N on this phone. But maybe Huawei will release that too one day.
Mine Europe DAV-701L came with a black dot cover. I had both Chinese DAV-703L and now Europa version DAV-703L. I sold the Chinese one because it had no band 20 support and i like the titanium color more. I also had many problems with Google apps installed from huawei store. This is my dream phone, if there was a black version like the P8 it would be perfect. I was also looking at the Lenovo Phab Plus (also 6,8") but the reviews and specs are not so good.
Why DAV-701L
- Support band 20 - 800MHz
- Official Google apps already installed.
- Titanium color (Chinese is only in gold and white/silver)
- Original EU charger
Why DAV-703L
- Updates will come quicker
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Mine Europe DAV-701L came with a black dot cover.
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where you buy the 701 ? Yes, when black it was perfect ..
peter
greddy said:
where you buy the 701 ? Yes, when black it was perfect ..
peter
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I bought it on Amazon.es, the third one in the list.
http://www.amazon.es/gp/offer-listing/B015XLIX9U/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
I bought it on Amazon.es, the third one in the list.
http://www.amazon.es/gp/offer-listing/B015XLIX9U/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new
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It's the 64GB version? Do they have the 32GB version there? Could you post a picture of the phone using the black dot matrix cover? Thanks!
*Update*
Seems like it is the 64GB version and nevermind about the 32GB. They don't ship to Sweden.
Finally decided to buy it. Placed my order here - http://www.amazon.de/Smartphone-His...F8&qid=1453486318&sr=8-1&keywords=p8+max+32gb. It seems the 32GB version just does not exist in "grey" or they haven chosen to call it "silver". Not sure.
Now the waiting begin...
poLiSen said:
Finally decided to buy it. Placed my order here - http://www.amazon.de/Smartphone-His...F8&qid=1453486318&sr=8-1&keywords=p8+max+32gb. It seems the 32GB version just does not exist in "grey" or they haven chosen to call it "silver". Not sure.
Now the waiting begin...
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i am pretty sure that this is the 703L cause "silver" and its come from HongKong Store
greets, Peter
greddy said:
i am pretty sure that this is the 703L cause "silver" and its come from HongKong Store
greets, Peter
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Nice catch. I figured amazon.de would only sell products from European stores. I really thought it was the 701L.
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Nice catch. I figured amazon.de would only sell products from European stores. I really thought it was the 701L.
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the last weeks i asking so much hk-stores which modell he sell ... all answer DAV-703L
i found 2 stores with the DAV-701L "Titanium grey"
i ask here, he answer thats the 701L: (Austria)
http://www.gsmshop.at/mobiltelefone/huawei-p8-max-dual-sim-grau/a-84166/
Here in Canada:
https://www.pdaplaza.ca/products/Hu...701L-64GB,-6.8"-DUAL-SIM.html?setCurrencyId=3
greets, Peter
Be aware that the Shop maybe will ship u the wrong Version cause i tried to buy the Silver Version and got the Champanger Version after waiting weeks! Glad the took it back with covering the shipment fee to them!
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I'm curious how many folks out there are going to wait to see when/if and then buy the US-compatible version of the Ascend Mate 7 or are going to buy the version that's out now?
Wait .....
sanjsrik said:
I'm curious how many folks out there are going to wait to see when/if and then buy the US-compatible version of the Ascend Mate 7 or are going to buy the version that's out now?
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I think u should wait a bit because I m a Pakistani and on HuaweiPakistan fb page they are indicating that mate7 is gonna available very shortly. In Pakistan we get international version always not Chinese ones. So i hope it would support all bands of LTE being used in USA.
sanjsrik said:
I'm curious how many folks out there are going to wait to see when/if and then buy the US-compatible version of the Ascend Mate 7 or are going to buy the version that's out now?
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As a seller, can we participate in this thread?:laugh:
Our opinions for USA consumers would be, to wait for the USA version.
For EU consumers, our opinion is that the current Chinese premium MT7-TL10 shall work flawlessly in many EU countries and it offers more advantages that it carries the most complete TDD bands in the entire market.
If you are not mainly based in NA and are a frequent traveler, we highly recommend the current Chinese premium MT7-TL10.
And one more advice if we could offer: get the 3 GB RAM version for this high-end phone. It worth the bucks you are to pay.
GetMobilePhone
getmobilephone said:
As a seller, can we participate in this thread?:laugh:
Our opinions for USA consumers would be, to wait for the USA version.
For EU consumers, our opinion is that the current Chinese premium MT7-TL10 shall work flawlessly in many EU countries and it offers more advantages that it carries the most complete TDD bands in the entire market.
If you are not mainly based in NA and are a frequent traveler, we highly recommend the current Chinese premium MT7-TL10.
And one more advice if we could offer: get the 3 GB RAM version for this high-end phone. It worth the bucks you are to pay.
GetMobilePhone
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I can't walk around with a gold phone. I just can't. What was Huawei thinking only releasing the higher-end version in gold?
Techngro said:
I can't walk around with a gold phone. I just can't. What was Huawei thinking only releasing the higher-end version in gold?
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HUAWEI believes it is a premium phone only for VIP man/woman.
Seriously, the MATE is targeting at high-end market. The gold color looks better in hands though. And it can be covered with the leather case.
Gold is kind of cool
Techngro said:
I can't walk around with a gold phone. I just can't. What was Huawei thinking only releasing the higher-end version in gold?
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For me, the gold color was kind of appealing. It stands out where all the other devices seem to do wood (at the most extreme, to me, which is not extreme) to just plain black. If I get one more "black" device, I'll lose it. You'd think manufacturers would get that we want color in our devices. Not just the same old drab non-colors.
I wouldn't mind different colors, but I think that gold is quite possibly the ugliest color you could put on a device. I'd be more likely to buy literally any other color of device than gold. I spent 2-4 minutes trying to think of another color that came close to as bad as gold but I can't think of one. I prefer not to have a case on my phone, and even with a case you'd still be able to see little slivers of color on it.
So, I went to the Huawei Mobile Phone store site and posed the following question:
You're updating your answers that this will be released in a US-compatible version, WHEN will it be released in a US-compatible version? Please update as you say to buy it from the US Huawei shop but it's not even listed there, only the Ascend Mate 2 is listed. WHEN is this going to be available in the US and is it going to be compatible with T-Mobile?
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This was their response:
Huawei Mobile
Thank you for your mail.
If Huawei Ascend Mate7 released in the United States, it will be compatible with T-Mobile's.
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I think they mean "when" not "if" (not at all sure their English is very good).
Of course, all of this is without a date of when it will be released, but there you go. There's a few other countries that have asked about this and they seem to just be really slow at rolling out stock.
I think I understand why Huawei isn't so well known in the US, they seem unable to get stock, make the devices, whatever voodoo they have to do to fulfill a demand for a device they created.
I am not going to buy the Chinese model in lieu of waiting for the US compatible M7, but I'm inching closer to buying a competing product like the Note 4 or Nexus 6. It's been a month and a half since the Mate7 was announced, and I still couldn't tell you when it will be made widely available. The M7 is my preferred phone because of battery life, but I'm not going to wait much longer, when there are quality competitors becoming available in this space, to be honest.
JJ2525 said:
I am not going to buy the Chinese model in lieu of waiting for the US compatible M7, but I'm inching closer to buying a competing product like the Note 4 or Nexus 6. It's been a month and a half since the Mate7 was announced, and I still couldn't tell you when it will be made widely available. The M7 is my preferred phone because of battery life, but I'm not going to wait much longer, when there are quality competitors becoming available in this space, to be honest.
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I wrote this exact thing on their website. Their response, "Mate is low in stock right now.. "
I think I know now why they're considered #3 in worldwide sales and nor even considered by US carriers. They seem very lackadaisical about the urgency of coming to market with an announced product.
Sad really.
I have the premium gold chinese variant, and though I can't speak for US, it works fine in EU.
And the gold colour looks nice - I wouldn't really call it proper gold. anyway - it looks different to other flat black slabs that everyone else is carrying
I have a ton of applications I bought and use from the Google Playstore. Is it preloaded (or can it be easily installed) on the Mate 8?
If not it is pretty useless for me. Thanks!
It can be installed. Most sellers shipping it internationally will preload it for you.
NZtechfreak said:
It can be installed. Most sellers shipping it internationally will preload it for you.
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Would you please provide some links to sellers that do this? Thanks
mscion said:
Would you please provide some links to sellers that do this? Thanks
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Basically all of the AliExpress sellers do.
mscion said:
I have a ton of applications I bought and use from the Google Playstore. Is it preloaded (or can it be easily installed) on the Mate 8?
If not it is pretty useless for me. Thanks!
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Huawei has had Google Play on its international phones for years. My first Android phone was a Huawei running Froyo and it had offical Google Play. Phone Arena has photos and specs and if you look at the first photo, you'll see the Google Play icon on the screen. http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Huawei-Mate-8_id9766/videos
mke1973 said:
Huawei has had Google Play on its international phones for years. My first Android phone was a Huawei running Froyo and it had offical Google Play. Phone Arena has photos and specs and if you look at the first photo, you'll see the Google Play icon on the screen. http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Huawei-Mate-8_id9766/videos
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That's good news! I'm still a little on the fence about this device but it I can see it's quite impressive.
NZtechfreak said:
Basically all of the AliExpress sellers do.
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don't they charge more than huawei itself?
qjsmartphone said:
don't they charge more than huawei itself?
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Sure, but Huawei won't sell to you right now, so you're looking at AliExpress, Honormi etc right now or wait till international availability.
mke1973 said:
Huawei has had Google Play on its international phones for years. My first Android phone was a Huawei running Froyo and it had offical Google Play. Phone Arena has photos and specs and if you look at the first photo, you'll see the Google Play icon on the screen. http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Huawei-Mate-8_id9766/videos
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That'll be true when it is actually launched internationally, but it isn't for Mate 8 handsets right now unless the seller (or user) installs it.
NZtechfreak said:
That'll be true when it is actually launched internationally, but it isn't for Mate 8 handsets right now unless the seller (or user) installs it.
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Just noticed, according to honormi website, they will pre install google play if asked. Also, the Champagne gold with 4GB ram and 128GB memory seems like a good deal ($789) relative to other prices I've seen quoted from other dealers. Is this much more than what would be Huawei's price?
Any better deals out there?
mscion said:
Just noticed, according to honormi website, they will pre install google play if asked. Also, the Champagne gold with 4GB ram and 128GB memory seems like a good deal ($789) relative to other prices I've seen quoted from other dealers. Is this much more than what would be Huawei's price?
Any better deals out there?
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If you can wait, CES and Barcelona are coming up soon. Lots of new devices will be previewed. I'm more likely to order the Mate 8 once the international version is launched (supposedly during Q1 of 2016, but it might get pushed back to Q2). Given the inclusion of FUD LTE band 17--essential for much of AT&T's 4G market, especially all the Verizon western markets that it bought when big red had to divest itself of those markets during the Alltel aquisition--and the fact that the online US Huawei store has had only one phone with US 4G LTE bands that work for both T Mobile and AT&T, I really expect to see Huawei launch this in the US via their store. Look for Huawei to announce a US launch at CES. At least, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I didn't buy the 7 because my AT&T 4G LTE market uses FUD LTE band 17 and the 7 is missing it.
mke1973 said:
If you can wait, CES and Barcelona are coming up soon. Lots of new devices will be previewed. I'm more likely to order the Mate 8 once the international version is launched (supposedly during Q1 of 2016, but it might get pushed back to Q2). Given the inclusion of FUD LTE band 17--essential for much of AT&T's 4G market, especially all the Verizon western markets that it bought when big red had to divest itself of those markets during the Alltel aquisition--and the fact that the online US Huawei store has had only one phone with US 4G LTE bands that work for both T Mobile and AT&T, I really expect to see Huawei launch this in the US via their store. Look for Huawei to announce a US launch at CES. At least, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I didn't buy the 7 because my AT&T 4G LTE market uses FUD LTE band 17 and the 7 is missing it.
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Yes, patience is a virtue here! I'm on T-mobile so bands 2 and 4 are all that is needed for LTE so I'm covered in that regards. T-mobile does not use band 17. Be interesting if a Mate 8 shows up at CES for US. Wonder if a different processor will be used for that. Any idea what might be on the horizon?
mscion said:
Yes, patience is a virtue here! I'm on T-mobile so bands 2 and 4 are all that is needed for LTE so I'm covered in that regards. T-mobile does not use band 17. Be interesting if a Mate 8 shows up at CES for US. Wonder if a different processor will be used for that. Any idea what might be on the horizon?
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I don't think any of the international versions will use a different processor. I think the differences won't be that great, just official Google Play and maybe some different software packages. Prices will be higher than in China.
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I don't think any of the international versions will use a different processor. I think the differences won't be that great, just official Google Play and maybe some different software packages. Prices will be higher than in China.
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You've just about convinced me to order it now! lol
mscion said:
Would you please provide some links to sellers that do this? Thanks
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try this
http://www.gizok.com/huawei-mate-8-4g-lte-4gb-64gb.html
The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday that Huawei will sell the Mate 8 in the US. In fact, the article indicates that the company will begin to focus more on more on North America next year.
Good, the built-in huawei app manager has a link to install Google Play! It actually works fine
I'm working in Shanghai and just got my mate 8 delivered this morning.
Per past exp on using huawei devices, it's easy to install gapps as there are gapps installers available in the preloaded huawei app store.
Personal comment of Mate 8 on gapps installation, compatibility and setup may be more complicated than previous models. may be because of Android 6.0? China ver users may expect to be with more patients at the beginning. Until the international ver has released with more regions' stock rom options.....
I won't recommend to have selling party to pre-install the gapps. better keep the packing as new. it's really easy as just donwload the gapps installer and run it!
BTW, just a reminder, original packing from China ver has come with original leather flip case, and it gets a protector on the screen.....
LarSing said:
I'm working in Shanghai and just got my mate 8 delivered this morning.
Per past exp on using huawei devices, it's easy to install gapps as there are gapps installers available in the preloaded huawei app store.
Personal comment of Mate 8 on gapps installation, compatibility and setup may be more complicated than previous models. may be because of Android 6.0? China ver users may expect to be with more patients at the beginning. Until the international ver has released with more regions' stock rom options.....
I won't recommend to have selling party to pre-install the gapps. better keep the packing as new. it's really easy as just donwload the gapps installer and run it!
BTW, just a reminder, original packing from China ver has come with original leather flip case, and it gets a protector on the screen.....
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Yep, I was very surprised to see mine came with a pretty good screen protector already installed..
opteron88 said:
Good, the built-in huawei app manager has a link to install Google Play! It actually works fine
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Interested in this. Do you just need to install Google Play Store, or are there more files to download along side it?
Also I heard that there are issues for not allowing it enough memory so it crashes when download large games like 1gb +. If this is the case, how do you increase memory space and what else should I do during the setup?
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Link found, don't know about the 'global' part, but it doesn't offer many LTE bands:
https://www.giztop.com/nubia-x.html
Anyone have experience with the site? A lot of ? to be putting out.
Hi, I'm not familiar with nubia phones? Do they usually release separate china roms and international rom versions?
And yeah, womeone confirm if that link has international rom. Thanks.
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Anyone have experience with the site? A lot of to be putting out.
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I have ordered from giztop they are good, they just take a while to ship (expect 2-3weeks which was my case)
I currently use Liaow , absolute best cust service . Prices are a bit higher but the communication with them is top notch . I pre ordered my Nubia X from there
I found a local reseller that sells 6/64 for around 520 usd. Is there an even lower price than that? Choosing between this and honor note 10
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I found a local reseller that sells 6/64 for around 520 usd. Is there an even lower price than that? Choosing between this and honor note 10
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Can you tell us the seller name?
Thanks
laurg73 said:
Can you tell us the seller name?
Thanks
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Not sure which country you are in, but it's in shopee philippines. Just search nubia x and it's there for pre-order. Not sure if they sell outside the country though
China Roms
Lets assume the links online from Giztop, Geekbuying, etc... are currently for Chinese Roms Only.
Do Global roms typically support different network bands than Chinese Roms?
I want to buy the Nubia ASAP, sites say it will ship in 20 days or so...Im comfortable rooting and installing google play services etc..
But im worried about network compatibility. The Chinese version supports the network bands I will be using..but would a global rom typically support more bands so I can travel and still use it anywhere....
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Lets assume the links online from Giztop, Geekbuying, etc... are currently for Chinese Roms Only.
Do Global roms typically support different network bands than Chinese Roms?
I want to buy the Nubia ASAP, sites say it will ship in 20 days or so...Im comfortable rooting and installing google play services etc..
But im worried about network compatibility. The Chinese version supports the network bands I will be using..but would a global rom typically support more bands so I can travel and still use it anywhere....
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I couldn't wait.. I ordered the 8gb model on giztop..
From what research I've done today It seems having the chinese rom on most fones is actually better.
Apparently there is more access to updates. I don't see any differences in things like network compatibility across the different rom versions.. Also discovered certain websites selling china fones often put their own modded version of the chinese roms onto the fone and label them as global roms, since some fones were never meant for other countries anyway.
Im comfortable with rooting if necessary to install google play services etc.. But I don't think I'll have to root this to do that.
Anyways.. Can't wait to get it... I was on the fence with the magic 2 & mix 3 until I saw this one a few days ago. Im definitely going to have the coolest fone around lol!
Be careful with china roms. In oppo, there are 2 china versions, regular and with t versions. Those are aside from international version. So 3 versions total. Only regular china roms get updates/upgrades.
Can't wait to get this phone too. Hopefully developers make custom roms tha will make both screens work even smoother than stock os.
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Lets assume the links online from Giztop, Geekbuying, etc... are currently for Chinese Roms Only.
Do Global roms typically support different network bands than Chinese Roms?
I want to buy the Nubia ASAP, sites say it will ship in 20 days or so...Im comfortable rooting and installing google play services etc..
But im worried about network compatibility. The Chinese version supports the network bands I will be using..but would a global rom typically support more bands so I can travel and still use it anywhere....
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It really comes down to the bands listed on the box. For Canada, you need LTE band 4 and 7 for it to work with the major 3. I think I going to order from Giztop too because Aliexpress is being a b|tch and keep asking me to send in photo of my credit card to verify after I switched cards.
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It really comes down to the bands listed on the box. For Canada, you need LTE band 4 and 7 for it to work with the major 3. I think I going to order from Giztop too because Aliexpress is being a b|tch and keep asking me to send in photo of my credit card to verify after I switched cards.
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Just a heads up, Visa Fraud dept called me a few hours after my payment to Giztop. All good, they seem to have anything from China flagged.
Also, my credit & debit cards would not work on Geekbuying, but they have a lower price than giztop by about $20.
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Just a heads up, Visa Fraud dept called me a few hours after my payment to Giztop. All good, they seem to have anything from China flagged.
Also, my credit & debit cards would not work on Geekbuying, but they have a lower price than giztop by about $20.
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Needless scrutiny on the credit card company side. I used my HSBC card so they know that I'm not sheltered assuming I only buy within North America. Had to cancel my Capital One Costco card recently because they were being stupid and prevented a $1USD authorization "for my protection". That was the card linked to Aliexpress account and now I got a new can of worms of "need verification" bull crap I have to deal with. Since I ordered from Giztop, I think I may just delete the Aliexpress account. Life's too short to be hassled by companies who are only out to protect themselves by storing my information on their servers and making me prove that I am who I am.
Can't wait to get the phone. Pretty sure the 2nd screen is a gimmick but still cool none the less.
n1tro said:
Needless scrutiny on the credit card company side. I used my HSBC card so they know that I'm not sheltered assuming I only buy within North America. Had to cancel my Capital One Costco card recently because they were being stupid and prevented a $1USD authorization "for my protection". That was the card linked to Aliexpress account and now I got a new can of worms of "need verification" bull crap I have to deal with. Since I ordered from Giztop, I think I may just delete the Aliexpress account. Life's too short to be hassled by companies who are only out to protect themselves by storing my information on their servers and making me prove that I am who I am.
Can't wait to get the phone. Pretty sure the 2nd screen is a gimmick but still cool none the less.
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Oh For sure the 2nd screen is a gimmick. It only has a 720p resolution. I dont take selfies ever unless with a group of friends or something, I think it will be cool to get the quality from the rear camera and see what you're doing, but then view the quality on the main screen.
I was set on a full screen phone and really like this design...i think it will look pretty fancy. I love the idea of having the back screen showing a clock, notifications, or that little fish thing they're advertising.
When do you think it will actually ship though? Giztop site has said "shipping in 7-10 days" all week, which leads me to believe they dont have an accurate date.
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Oh For sure the 2nd screen is a gimmick. It only has a 720p resolution. I dont take selfies ever unless with a group of friends or something, I think it will be cool to get the quality from the rear camera and see what you're doing, but then view the quality on the main screen.
I was set on a full screen phone and really like this design...i think it will look pretty fancy. I love the idea of having the back screen showing a clock, notifications, or that little fish thing they're advertising.
When do you think it will actually ship though? Giztop site has said "shipping in 7-10 days" all week, which leads me to believe they dont have an accurate date.
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I'm thinking it should ship for next week since it was released this week in the Chinese market. I always wanted a truly bezeless phone and still rocking the original Mi Mix but Xiaomi really dropped the ball hard since then. If the Nubia X wasn't announced, I would have gotten the Nubia z18 since it doesn't have any side bezels.
Any idea about google play services support? If it comes with it or it's possible to get it I might get myself an early Christmas present
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Any idea about google play services support? If it comes with it or it's possible to get it I might get myself an early Christmas present
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https://www.geekbuying.com/item/Nubia-X-6-26-Inch-8GB-128GB-Smartphone-Gray-408074.html
Additional Features:4G, WIFI, GPS, Bluetooth,Gesture Sensing,Smart Wake, Ebook, Email,Messaging, wallpapers, calendar, calculator,clock, camera, tethering & portable hotspot, Touch ID, Google Play Store, fast charge,Type-C, etc
I dont know why, but GeekBuying shows Google Play Store under Additional Features.
I am expecting this phone to come without Google services, but it seems quite simple to install yourself...just like downloading any other APK's.
Im slightly worried it may need to be rooted to install google..with this being brand new not sure if ill figure out how to root this one..
but if you look around theres a lot of videos on other Nubia phones not requiring root for this.
So im hoping Everything will go smoothly.
Apparently unlocking the bootloader of the Nubia phones is quite simple, only one command through CMD and that's it, bit like oneplus unlocking which is neat I hope there will be TWRP support soon enough(the Z18 isn't listed on the TWRP site even though it's already released).
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Also, someone mentioned liaow. Is it a trustworthy website and reliable? If the customer service is as good as someone mentioned here earlier I might just order it from them, works out about €70 more than the other site(either giztop or geekbuying, cant remember which now).
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Apparently unlocking the bootloader of the Nubia phones is quite simple, only one command through CMD and that's it, bit like oneplus unlocking which is neat I hope there will be TWRP support soon enough(the Z18 isn't listed on the TWRP site even though it's already released).
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Also, someone mentioned liaow. Is it a trustworthy website and reliable? If the customer service is as good as someone mentioned here earlier I might just order it from them, works out about €70 more than the other site(either giztop or geekbuying, cant remember which now).
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I just received my X from Liaow , i have ordered multiple phones and the customer service is second to none. you may pay a bit more but i have had 0 issues . Mike is a great guy...
I also would like to say i have not been able to get any google services to work on the nubia X .
Finally I found a shop on alibaba can buy the phone with a good price.And I also found Mi 10 Pro on this website too!!!
Here is the link to buy:[COLOR="Red"]Aff link removed.[/COLOR]
Thank you guys.
yeah i would like a better resource to buy this phone
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yeah i would like a better resource to buy this phone
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In stock as of today. (black ceramic)
https://www.belsimpel.nl/oppo-find-x2-pro/zwart
animaleyes76 said:
In stock on Tuesday. (black ceramic)
https://www.belsimpel.nl/oppo-find-x2-pro/zwart
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doesn't appear that they deliver to USA
masri1987 said:
doesn't appear that they deliver to USA
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Amazon?
https://www.amazon.com/Original-Sna...ywords=Oppo+find+x2+pro&qid=1585082097&sr=8-1
Will there be difference if we wait for the European model or it will be the same?
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Will there be difference if we wait for the European model or it will be the same?
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The link I gave is the European model. The Netherlands got it much earlier. ? All models are the same from everything that I've read.
Belsimpel.nl offers sim free European model and deliver almost everywhere in Europe.
Thanks for the hints guys.
Damn.... it costs as much as S20 Ultra. :/
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Thanks for the hints guys.
Damn.... it costs as much as S20 Ultra. :/
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yeah, that's unfortunate.
I found the Find X2 Pro on "Trading Shenzhen" for 927€ https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/vivo-oppo-realme-etc/2159-oppo-findx2pro-12-256.html
however it's a Chinese model. Most likely won't be able to flash Global ROM on it... but the price is very tempting!
already cancelled my Find X2 (non Pro) order, and I'm probably gonna buy the Pro from Trading Shenzhen.
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yeah, that's unfortunate.
I found the Find X2 Pro on "Trading Shenzhen" for 927€ https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/vivo-oppo-realme-etc/2159-oppo-findx2pro-12-256.html
however it's a Chinese model. Most likely won't be able to flash Global ROM on it... but the price is very tempting!
already cancelled my Find X2 (non Pro) order, and I'm probably gonna buy the Pro from Trading Shenzhen.
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I will wait to see the OnePlus 8 series announcement. If they are not better, I hope Oppo will be already available in more EU countries by then.
For the Brits: https://www.oppo.com/uk/smartphone-find-x2-pro/
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I will wait to see the OnePlus 8 series announcement. If they are not better, I hope Oppo will be already available in more EU countries by then.
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OnePlus 8 Pro looks impressive, but I'm not a fan of the green and the camera no quite on par from initial comparisons. What are your thoughts?
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For the Brits: https://www.oppo.com/uk/smartphone-find-x2-pro/
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OnePlus 8 Pro looks impressive but I'm not a fan of the green and the camera no quite on par from initial comparisons. What are your thoughts?
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I also didn't like the green too much, but the blue version looks amazing on all reviews no matter that on oneplus' webpage the picture of the blue looks ugly. For the camera I agree that probably it won't be the absolute best but I wouldn't look at Oneplus anyways if the camera was my top priority. However I think it will be updated and it will be top-of-the-line. Oneplus is the king of updates and UX. The screen is the best, stereo speakers, fastest wireless charging. I also like that they removed the motorized camera tbh(i know this is subjective, but still). The curve of the screen is not something that I appreciate, but also I get used to this( I had the Vivo Nex 3, Huawei Mate 30 Pro) and don't mind in the end.
Some things I like better on the Find X2 Pro(the back finish for example and the faster wired charging), but OnePlus 8 Pro gets my vote because the community is beyond comparison so we will get all kinds of things to play with over here at XDA. +good battery +fastest wireless charging +the best screen +great camera +Oxygen(btw Find X2 Pro is similar) +best updates.
In the end -> I placed my pre-order of the blue 256GB model and hopefully will get it by the end of next week.
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In stock as of today. (black ceramic)
https://www.belsimpel.nl/oppo-find-x2-pro/zwart
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Looking at this, did you buy it? Is it dual-SIM. Website sort of makes out it is, but chatting to their team on facebook messenger, they say its a single sim??
Hi, do you know différences between chinese and global version ?
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Looking at this, did you buy it? Is it dual-SIM. Website sort of makes out it is, but chatting to their team on facebook messenger, they say its a single sim??
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Hi, sadly I don't. I waited for two weeks (6 days for it to be in stock) and they still didn't send it despite having it in stock (despite their adverts saying thar they send phones 7 days a week until 11pm etc) and I cancelled the order and bought a P40 Pro instead.
I’ve ordered the orange variant from Belsimpel.nl, shipped Friday so hope to receive sometime this week (UK). Took a few days to get through fraud check as I’m not in the Netherlands but appreciate that is for my safety also. By the time i got through the checks it said 2-4 days to get stock in but they actually shipped immediately. Not sure if they put one to the side for me but doubt it!
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I’ve ordered the orange variant from Belsimpel.nl, shipped Friday so hope to receive sometime this week (UK). Took a few days to get through fraud check as I’m not in the Netherlands but appreciate that is for my safety also. By the time i got through the checks it said 2-4 days to get stock in but they actually shipped immediately. Not sure if they put one to the side for me but doubt it!
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I've took the gamble too. Have just ordered the black from belsimpel.nl
Looked at all the alternatives, and although some of the China ones were cheaper, they were all just 256gb. I would have liked dual sim but the chance of the phone not supporting android auto and/or wifi calling (plus only one year warranty - and the possibility of customs charges etc) was too much of a gamble. None of the Chinese merchants would commit.
Hopefully, this will arrive swiftly... nice black 512Gb single SIM for just over €1,204 including shipping. Reckon that even when(if) it turns up in UK it'll be similar price for 512Gb.
Ordering, like you say, was a bit of a miff... but I'll take that for security purposes.
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I've took the gamble too. Have just ordered the black from belsimpel.nl
Looked at all the alternatives, and although some of the China ones were cheaper, they were all just 256gb. I would have liked dual sim but the chance of the phone not supporting android auto and/or wifi calling (plus only one year warranty - and the possibility of customs charges etc) was too much of a gamble. None of the Chinese merchants would commit.
Hopefully, this will arrive swiftly... nice black 512Gb single SIM for just over €1,204 including shipping. Reckon that even when(if) it turns up in UK it'll be similar price for 512Gb.
Ordering, like you say, was a bit of a miff... but I'll take that for security purposes.
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Just for info, the tracking on mine was stuck, it still said it was waiting to be picked up by the courier for 3 days after it 'shipped'. It wasn't though it was in transit and arrived within 3 working days
Arrived 2nd Day after shipping. Has Android Auto, WiFi calling (yet to test), so currently quite happy
So as much as I like being back on Apple as it just makes my life that much simpler (only need one phone for work and home, everything just works, etc.), my curiosity and need to be on the "newest" shiny thing to come out over powered my reason...
With that, I did it... Hopped on liaow.com and pre-order the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra (He calls it the "Extreme Edition", its soooo extreme!!!!)
So I guess the question becomes, is anyone else getting this beast?
I preordered the 256GB 12GB version since I don't want go outrageous and didn't want to go into the +$1200 USD range... now I'll just wait for delivery hopefully in 2 weeks...!!! :good:
I am thinking of getting one. I am just waiting for a local store to respond if they can import it for me. If they can't, I will buy it from tradingshenzhen.
I heard both device will be for Chinese market ?
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I am thinking of getting one. I am just waiting for a local store to respond if they can import it for me. If they can't, I will buy it from tradingshenzhen.
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I just want a smart charging pad!!!
I am thinking to get one. Waiting for two information:
- JerryRigsEverything tests
- some devs to make custom rom that is closer to stock Android (the MIUI 12 is impressive tho)
Have any of you guys ordered any Xiaomi phones before to the USA after the ban happened? I'm afraid that the phone might get confiscated at the post office or something. I have the impression that the postal services are very anal about stuff coming from China these days and they have opened everything I order on AliExpress or wish. Anyone has any feedback on this matter?
Thanks ?
I Want one but really concerned that China only = no custom ROMs
Mine is on the way
Mine is also..
Silver
16 gb ram
512 rom
Also ordered 8gb 128gb variant, the 10 pro performed brilliantly with 8gb so can’t see why this would need any more.
Holy crap, liaow has the 12GB+256GB Transparent edition (and the 8gb too)
I'm THIS close to getting it. Might wait til payday... but wow,. I'm in mainland UK, Liaow should be ok right? Says they install English for you
Edit: I bit the bullet
Holy gee, they take Paypal credit which I use anyway and I get more than the cost of the phone in my bank next week... a no brainer. less than £900
It's coming!!!!!!!!!
ToneLa said:
Holy crap, liaow has the 12GB+256GB Transparent edition (and the 8gb too)
I'm THIS close to getting it. Might wait til payday... but wow,. I'm in mainland UK, Liaow should be ok right? Says they install English for you
Edit: I bit the bullet
Holy gee, they take Paypal credit which I use anyway and I get more than the cost of the phone in my bank next week... a no brainer. less than £900
It's coming!!!!!!!!!
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Nvm sorry
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I Want one but really concerned that China only = no custom ROMs
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Which custom ROM do you want to have?
Usually the most important one we need is xiaomi.eu rom which will be released according to their forum.
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I am thinking of getting one. I am just waiting for a local store to respond if they can import it for me. If they can't, I will buy it from tradingshenzhen.
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Wonder if there is a global version in the future, just looked at the price at giztop, about $100 more than the price in china.
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Which custom ROM do you want to have?
Usually the most important one we need is xiaomi.eu rom which will be released according to their forum.
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I'm using RevolutionOS on my Mi 9 but a Xiaomi.EU ROM would be fine with me. I want to root it
Where did you you order it from?
Looking to import to UK
Thx
eddie21 said:
Where did you you order it from?
Looking to import to UK
Thx
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Liaow. They're being really nice, the dude emailed me a few times to let me know things, to check I know what I'm doing, to see if I want it set to English, and he sent me a photo of the package with my address on
No band 20 / 800mhz for 4g in the UK though. So be careful what network you are on.. EE seem to support the most 4G bands (there's like, 2 bands for short and medium range in towns and cities, whereas the missing band 20 is the low frequency for the most coverage)
I also ordered one. However I am worried that some apps which I often use wont work:
UBS banking
Interactive brokers (stocks)
These apps probably rely on SafetyNet Check and will not work on the device as it has a Chinese ROM. Do you guys have any solution so that also secured banking apps will work?
Got mine Saturday... bought from liaow... 256GB 12GB Transparent... Breath Taking... Gets 5G with T-Mobile... I've also forced VoLTE Check & VoWiFi. Other than that.... China Rom of MIUI 12 is not too bad. "OK Google" works and with the installation of a 3rd party launcher (NovaLauncher) I got Google Discover as my leftmost screen. This thing is buttery smooth @ 120 refresh rate... haven't tried the fast charging as I don't want to ruin the accessories (don't know how long I'll keep this phone). Haven't field tested camera but I'm going on a short trip over Labor Day and plan to give it a run through. Battery life seems very decent.
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Got mine Saturday... bought from liaow... 256GB 12GB Transparent... Breath Taking... Gets 5G with T-Mobile... I've also forced VoLTE Check & VoWiFi. Other than that.... China Rom of MIUI 12 is not too bad. "OK Google" works and with the installation of a 3rd party launcher (NovaLauncher) I got Google Discover as my leftmost screen. This thing is buttery smooth @ 120 refresh rate... haven't tried the fast charging as I don't want to ruin the accessories (don't know how long I'll keep this phone). Haven't field tested camera but I'm going on a short trip over Labor Day and plan to give it a run through. Battery life seems very decent.
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Happy to hear all that, mine is due Thursday. Same exact model and supplier. Sounds exactly like what I want