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"KIK" app

this app is pretty cool lets u chat with people that have blackberry iphone ipods or normally android Love it better than sms and pretty fast. check it out in the market now
kik me "Torvick1224"
http://www.kik.com/

I like this a lot too, I like how it shows if it's been read already or not too.
I just wish more people used it

Personally I prefer Whatsapp, 'cause it's more widely used, and havent had any problems with it yet. One time payment for iphone, and free trial period for android

darkwater13 said:
Personally I prefer Whatsapp, 'cause it's more widely used, and havent had any problems with it yet. One time payment for iphone, and free trial period for android
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yeah but member this 1 is FREE for every smartphone just need some good updates like add photos and post our own status and would be the shisnetss

does it do group chat?

no group chat

I used Whatsapp and personally like it better, but I like Kik's ability to tell you when it is sent\delivered\read while Whatsapp just tells you if its sent\delivered. I don't need group chat so that's a moot point for myself

PingChat has group chat, shows when send/read, can send pics, video, audio, contacts, maps. And it's free.

drauks said:
PingChat has group chat, shows when send/read, can send pics, video, audio, contacts, maps. And it's free.
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I'm currently using pingchat for these reasons. That and Kik was draining the battery on my Incredible :-/

Couple of gripes I have with KiK and had to get rid of it. From my limited use (2-3 days), I learned:
-you cannot log out of KiK.
-it automatically adds contacts without your approval and worse, it lets these contacts know you've signed on to KiK as well. I dont know about others but I dont necessarily want IM access to everyone in my contact list.
-it adds people that you dont even know (saw ppl on my list that I dont know) to your contact list.
-You can get random requests from ppl you dont know to add you just the same.
It seems like a very good beginning efforts but more control and privacy measures need to be put into before I'll try it again.
And, lastly, it was draining my battery ...
These are all from personal use and observation.

Interesting article. It lists upcoming features.
wwwdotbgrdotcom/2010/11/10/whats-kik-messenger-all-about/
Sorry. Can't post links yet.

Threads... why?

Ive seen MS chose to combine IM and SMS and to me this looks really messy.
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
Certainly if somebody just left his/her pc on or IM on accidently....
They should have added facebook private messaging as well and IM/SMS seperated like it was and just added a chat pivot in the messaging hub.
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
Its kind of short sighted implementation, the idea is good but the reality will be very annoying the way it works now.
you will get a ton of sms like notifications for every IM which can be annoying since on a chat conversation people send much more messages per minute than trough sms. Having to toggle online offline all the time will be a pita
am i the only one who thinks this will be garbage? Instead they should have allowed third party apps like whatsapp to use this on user permission. I hope I can switch off the live messenger. Or just revert back to the original sms screen

I like the idea to have an overview of my messages regardlessly whether they come via SMS, Windows Live or Facebook. Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming. But I can imagine Microsoft changes the way the tile works. So it still shows the number of SMS, but in addition to that shows an icon or something when you recieve a chat message from Facebook or Windows Live.

In my opinion.. the best feauture ever, of every OS. Loved that!

I love it as well, and think its nice not to have to go to 4 different places for my facebook, text, wlm & (eventually skype).
While I hope they either have a toggle setting for separate 'rows', or add it soon after Mango for those who really don't like it, I honestly doubt they want to mess it up by having too many places for messages. It fits in pretty perfectly with their vision for the overall UI design imo.

For me,M$ thread is not a new idea,it just copying the messaging app in the HP webos...however HP webos messaging is better,they can download apps that support HP connect and integrate into the messaging app(so,this means they can have more than 1 im clients in 1 messaging app).
Feel so sorry to HP webos,always being copied by others,even the UI design of playbook has been copied

Marvin_S said:
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
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Threading will be the beginning of the end for SMS IMNSHO. Most people still use SMS because it's what they know and are used to.
My wife is a great example, she keeps sending me SMSes while I'm out because that's what she's used to. Even though I've had email (and to some extent IM) on my phones since forever. With a "messaging hub" it takes all the guesswork out of the equation - she'll write the message as she normally does and the phone will decide whether it should deliver via FB, Messenger, Skype or SMS.
Now, if you don't want to continue the conversation if the user has moved to a different device you don't have to. The phone will tell you how the message was sent as well as what services the recipient is currently logged on to.
Marvin_S said:
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
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This just proves my point - you're used to SMS. And again, you can choose whether to send as SMS or IM.
Personally I find this feature great. Two things should be done to make it even better though;
1. Implement a industry-wide protocol so it doesn't matter if you're on a crackberry, iphone or windows phone. Sure, Skype and Messenger goes a long way towards achieving this but there are still people who use smaller IM services only.
2. Allow third-party apps to hook in to the messaging hub - there's a few apps out there today that are not chat apps as such but still implement messaging. Being able to receive (and reply to) these messages from the same place would be great. It would also make it easier for other IM services to integrate with the OS.
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Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming.
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But why? Are you less likely to want to read a message coming in thru Messenger than one delivered via SMS? I for one don't care how my messages are delivered, I just want to be notified. It's a bit like having three post boxes outside your house - one for deliveries by DHL only, another for Deutsche Post and a third for everyone else - i.e. pointless

I really like this new feature as well. I am confident that any replies you send to someone will use the same service they used to "text" you, unless you choose to change it. People on non-WP7 phones won't suddenly need to be jumping all over the place.
On the other hand, when other people send you messages from multiple sources (SMS, FB, WLM, etc), you will be able to get all of the messages in one convenient place. I like that.

Group / Bulk texting

Hey, so I'm an owner of an Samsung galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5 and an N6.
With my galaxy nexus I'm able to send texts, in bulk to hundreds of different people at once from one app. Then send texts through the stock app without my bulk text showing up there.
When i try on the n5/6 the texts i sent keep showing up in the stock app, making the hundreds if of business associates appear in front of my regular texts.
Also there's a restriction of how many texts I can send through the app now, which is annoying and ruins my work. Yet owning both n6 and n5, I seem to just use the GN despite it being sluggish, it does what i need it to.
I've seen the Liquid fluid rom for the N6 can solve my 2nd question, but the DL link is dead and google just sends me to deadends.
tl;dr
How do I stop the stock sms app from showing texts from my group sms app?
How do I remove the restriction of sms sent?
The solution can be for either the N5 or N6, I'd just like to be able to use either of them for what I need.

Is T mobile re-sizing our pictures through text???

I take a normal 3-4 meg picture and when I send it using Google messenger it compresses it to 30-45kb, yea, KB!
This is horrid and embarrassing when people actually get said picture. Its such terrible quality. My friend on Tmobile with his Iphone looked to have the same issue a week ago when we were testing.
Is there some setting here? OR is this going to be Tmobile's new thing?

It's not tmobile only, mms have some standards and one of them is that they cannot carry big amounts of data (3-4mb). every phone does it whether on tmobile or some other carrier, its built into the phone and therefore into the messaging app. The phone has to compress the image in order to be able to send it. Thats why I use whats app or any other internet based messaging system(imessage, hangouts, etc) when I send any photo

maybe I should rephrase
This isn't my first rodeo, I've done enough with phones over the many years to understand exactly how it works, but this is the first time they have ever compressed a 3-4 meg picture down to 20-40kb, for example on AT&T and Verizon during my testing its at least double that for the same size picture, if not even more , many times compressing it to a 200-350kb size picture. @ 40kb the picture is not even really recognized..
do the test now, take a picture high res. and send it to someone, check the size of the photo you sent.
Is this my phone issue? or is this a tmobile issue? or is there a setting somewhere within the app or phone that is telling it to use low data when sending pictures

It is Google messenger. Use the stock app and the issue goes away. 820KB file size for stock app and 17KB for Google messenger.

if you are sending the pic to a newer phone it will send the full size
the sms app on newer phones has more features you can only use on newer to newer phones
Rich 1 on 1 and group messaging, including near real-time chat
See when others are typing, when your message is delivered and even read
Share high-res photos and videos up to 10 MB just as you would a regular text message

I've heard the opposite about the default messaging app in android. Started with my note 5. I couldn't send pics and text, only pics. So all you have to do is download a messaging app that has better features.
Sent from my SM-T817T using XDA-Developers mobile app

The issue is specifically with Google messenger. I noticed this right when the G5 was released. Any other SMS client (stock, textra, hangouts) fixes the issue. I haven't tested it with the latest update of Google messenger though. Which version were you using?

google messenger sucks, facebook messenger sucks, I use handcent and that seems to send reasonably sized pictures.

Whatsapp Web after transitioning to new phone

Hi I posted the same message to Whatsapp support but I think that this forum might provide a faster and better answer.
I suffered a broken phone and set up Whatsapp on a new phone a few days later. I set up Whatsapp fresh on the new phone without restoring a backup. In the few days before the new phone arrived I used Whatsapp web to communicate (the new version that doesn't require a phone to be online). Now after setting up Whatsapp on the new phone, when visiting the Whatsapp web site, it shows the unpaired/unconnected state with the barcode. Is it possible to extract the messages previously stored in Whatsapp web or did it throw away all data the moment it realized a new phone account was set up?
Also, I'm a (non-Android) dev, so this is also interesting to me from a technical perspective. Does Whatsapp web store messages in local storage or only the encryption keys (and the encrypted messages stay on the server)?
Thanks