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Just saw a series of tweets from @P3Droid saying they're looking for a soft-bricked D2G or Pro to test SBF files on. He said he's in the Phoenix area so do yourself and everyone else a favor if you've got a phone to send him and get that sucker fixed!
Edit: At 11:30 p.m. EST on 1/2/2011, @P3Droid tweeted that they will be publicly releasing the SBF files for both the D2G and Pro within the next 12 hours. I'll post a link to their posting once it's up. Note that they caution you to grab the stuff ASAP as it will likely be taken down by Moto via C&D (not that there won't be plenty of mirrors after that)
Edit2: It looks like links are up on Team Black Hat's forum. I assume since this is now for free there is no issue linking to their forum but if anyone better versed than I in the rules disagrees, please say so and I'll take the link down.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...id-2-global-sbf-file-2-4-29-full-rsdlite.html
Again, thanks to Team Black Hat for the great work they do and for the decision to rapidly release this SBF publicly. Hopefully the short window between it being kept exclusive to their app and the public release will not deter folks from supporting the cause.
bout time. This will really get the modding community going for the global finally. Hear that all they need to do now is test it and they'll be set.
Yes this is very good news.
See my post down further as to see why I say this isn't good news.
Hint: This smells like a scam.
i hope that this is true, then we could start seeing a lot more modds dfor the d2g
Of course, 2 days after i send my brick in to verizon. good news tho
If you check the twitter account it says that the phone must be mailed just like the band unlock guy... I smell a scam and I for one do not recommend sending any phones by mail to anyone you don't know. You're just asking to have your phone stolen.
I wouldn't trust anyone who says that you must mail the phone to them or that you must meet them in person. If they really want to be trust worthy they will just give you the link to the file straight up. If they needed testers then they can setup a private channel on irc or something.
This is not a scam.
All of the members of TBH have NS(Non Secured) flash dev phones because that is what we personally chose to spend our own money on.
We also have consumer hardware test phones for other models but not the D2G or Pro.
We cannot test the SBF files we got recently on our phones and cannot afford to purchase these models at full retail to test the files.
We are well established in the community and have provided virtually all of the leaked SBF files for all of the Droid devices in existence.
Our record of community service stands for itself and has no comparable parallel.
Everybody wants these files and we want to release them so users who have soft bricked can recover and everyone can breathe a little easier modding these phones.
I would ask anyone who questions our motives how much of their own money they have spent on providing the community with such valuable resources as these files?
Anybody?
I thought so...
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This is not a scam.
All of the members of TBH have NS(Non Secured) flash dev phones because that is what we personally chose to spend our own money on.
We also have consumer hardware test phones for other models but not the D2G or Pro.
We cannot test the SBF files we got recently on our phones and cannot afford to purchase these models at full retail to test the files.
We are well established in the community and have provided virtually all of the leaked SBF files for all of the Droid devices in existence.
Our record of community service stands for itself and has no comparable parallel.
Everybody wants these files and we want to release them so users who have soft bricked can recover and everyone can breathe a little easier modding these phones.
I would ask anyone who questions our motives how much of their own money they have spent on providing the community with such valuable resources as these files?
Anybody?
I thought so...
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Beautiful post and well said!
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using XDA App
cellzealot said:
This is not a scam.
All of the members of TBH have NS(Non Secured) flash dev phones because that is what we personally chose to spend our own money on.
We also have consumer hardware test phones for other models but not the D2G or Pro.
We cannot test the SBF files we got recently on our phones and cannot afford to purchase these models at full retail to test the files.
We are well established in the community and have provided virtually all of the leaked SBF files for all of the Droid devices in existence.
Our record of community service stands for itself and has no comparable parallel.
Everybody wants these files and we want to release them so users who have soft bricked can recover and everyone can breathe a little easier modding these phones.
I would ask anyone who questions our motives how much of their own money they have spent on providing the community with such valuable resources as these files?
Anybody?
I thought so...
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I do apologize as I'm new to having a Motorola device and thus do not know all of the developers yet for this brand of hardware. I recently came over from an HTC phone which has the Unrevoked team behind it for rooting purposes and so forth.
I only claimed that this seemed like a scam as I'm cautious about these short of things and your request asking for phones to be mailed seems very much so a tail tell sign of a scam. Again I apologize if this is your preferred operating procedure.
If I had better information about your group/organization then I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. If I had a soft bricked phone and had this information before hand I would have been more willing to help out. Though I personally still do not want to ship any phone via the mail. I would prefer an in person meeting where this test could then be conducted.
I too understand these phones are not cheap and it's not easy for developers to obtain consumer devices for testing purposes. Since these phones cost so much is why I'm cautious when it comes to someone asking for a phone to be mailed in.
I think the best way to test whether its an sbf or not is to make a new thread with links to it and a disclaimer, if it works, hey, that's awesome, if it doesnt, who cares, the phones its being tested on are already softbricked anyhow.
My question is, what if it is the sbf? Besides fixing softbricked phones, what more can be done with it?
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I do apologize as I'm new to having a Motorola device and thus do not know all of the developers yet for this brand of hardware. I recently came over from an HTC phone which has the Unrevoked team behind it for rooting purposes and so forth.
I only claimed that this seemed like a scam as I'm cautious about these short of things and your request asking for phones to be mailed seems very much so a tail tell sign of a scam. Again I apologize if this is your preferred operating procedure.
If I had better information about your group/organization then I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. If I had a soft bricked phone and had this information before hand I would have been more willing to help out. Though I personally still do not want to ship any phone via the mail. I would prefer an in person meeting where this test could then be conducted.
I too understand these phones are not cheap and it's not easy for developers to obtain consumer devices for testing purposes. Since these phones cost so much is why I'm cautious when it comes to someone asking for a phone to be mailed in.
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I think the best way to test whether its an sbf or not is to make a new thread with links to it and a disclaimer, if it works, hey, that's awesome, if it doesnt, who cares, the phones its being tested on are already softbricked anyhow.
My question is, what if it is the sbf? Besides fixing softbricked phones, what more can be done with it?
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We will not release anything until we have had a chance to thoroughly test it for ourselves, not all things we get are worth releasing.
To be honest this thread started good but really went silly rather quickly. Neither Cell nor myself need to defend the work we have done for the community and to state that we are scamming is asinine. As Cell stated we have lots of devices in many different flavors, they are not consumer phones therefore we can not always test things that we would like to.
I'm sure you know what TBH does and what we have done, if not you can most likely find 1 or 2 posts about us online somewhere. This is not a question of us not knowing what the files are, we know what we have in hand therefore that is not the question being asked. The request is for a consumer device to test this on.
So if you know someone with a phone that is inoperable have them contact us, so we can help them out and in return help out the entire community.
P3Droid
TBH
Has anyone offered to send a phone to you yet? Where are you located?
No, I went and bought a new D2G from VZW tonight so I can manage this myself.
Once testing is complete we will decide when and how to release the SBF file.
You're welcome...
sorry if I came off as a bit "silly" i do know about tbh and their contributions to the droid community. i was just suggesting an alternative way of testing this, but i understand your concern about releasing it publicly, it may cause more harm than good.
while im here, might i ask if the 3g mobile hotspot patch can be made for the d2g, seeing as how you have a d2g now? ive been waiting a while hoping that someone can make the patch for the d2g.
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No, I went and bought a new D2G from VZW tonight so I can manage this myself.
Once testing is complete we will decide when and how to release the SBF file.
You're welcome...
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Hey guys, sorry for the harassment/doubters. Unfortunately, the couple of posters who got on here were too lazy to follow the links on your twitter account to the website where it can be clearly seen just how crazy active you guys are on the Android scene and how reasonable you are with these types of requests.
Thanks so much for all the work you do to make Android phones do what they're supposed to do (stupid carriers with their stupidity). You guys do great work and I, for one, appreciate it a lot! Looking forward to the release
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No, I went and bought a new D2G from VZW tonight so I can manage this myself.
Once testing is complete we will decide when and how to release the SBF file.
You're welcome...
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This is very generous from your side!
I don't know about others, but I think we should establish a fund or something like that to cover such expenses for our development teams. I am totally willing to shell some money for having the peace of mind of having the SBF file for my D2G laying around ready shall the need arise.
Right now (without SBF) I am reluctant of touching anything on my phone due to lack of safe way out. I am not in the States and exchanging the phone will cost me considerable amount of money and efforts.
Not sure if I should start a new thread for this as cellzealot already bought the phone, but I if this gets somehow organized, I am in with $20 to offset the expense. $20 is much less than what I would have to pay to ship the phone anywhere for whatever reason.
cellzealot, does your team have a paypal or something we can use for the purpose?
I have a Droid2Global that boots but is stuck at the stupid Backup Manager screen and doesn't allow me to go anywhere else. If you want, I'm more than happy to try the SBF out on that D2G if you send me the SBF. PM me if you want me to try it.
@leobg: Thanks for the offer of support.
We really don't care for the practice of plastering donate buttons all over in every forum where we post...so we don't do it.
The best way to support TeamBlackHat and the continued availability of these files and our other development projects is to purchase our app in the market for the extremely reasonable sum of $2.00 US. It is just a downloader that provides our users with access to all of the various leaks and other files. There is a filter that only presents content for the specific connected device.
There is also a donate button at the top of the screen for further support if you are feeling generous, thanks. The files are made available via the app exclusively for some period and then posted publicly for everyone later on MyDroidWorld. http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/forum.php
That is our way of providing a perk for our supporters and also assuring that all content is made available to the entire community.
This also prevents us from being accused of "selling leaks", despite the fact that those making such accusations have no clue whatsoever how these files are acquired or at what cost.
This is what we do and have been doing for most of the past year or so since the advent of Motorola Android phones with the original Droid.
There is no profit in this at all...trust me...it's just a way for us to absorb some of the cost of our passion for these devices and serve a unique and critical function to meet need for these kinds of files.
Nobody else has consistently proven to have access to these files except us and we have released every flash file for every Motorola Droid device in existence with the exception of two that RootzWiki released.
We don't do a lot of self promotion and prancing around on forums attracting attention to ourselves, that's not our way.
Thanks again for your interest and support!
Just sent you a donation for your work on the droid 2 global sbf. Your work is much appreciated!
THANK YOU!
-Strandedhuman
I have just purchased the TBH app from market. Plan to use the donate link there very soon. I really appreciate your efforts guys!
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL
TouchWiz is not the most horrid operating system I've run (it still isn't superb), but all the same, I'd rather be running pure AOSP (Android Open Source Project), but we need unlocked bootloaders. Come on Verizon, stop sucking! It is my phone and I ought to be able to do what I please with it. Imagine if you bought a fridge from the biggest and most powerful fridge manufacturer (Verizon) only to find out you were only allowed to put strawberries in it. Of all the foods in the entire world, the fridge manufacturer only allows strawberries in the fridge. Sure, it might be fine at first, but what happens when you want to make the fridge your own? As soon as you put a food other than strawberries in said fridge only to find the doors lock and the fridge stops working entirely. Now your fridge is useless because you wanted to support other people and make the fridge your own. If the farmers of the world want to survive, they need to strike deals with the fridge manufacturer in order to get their foods into the fridges. This is a monopoly. There is zero competition; everyone is at the mercy of the fridge manufacturer. This is what Verizon is doing with their phones. Either the developers give in to Verizon's insane demands (money and horrible contracts) to get the software on the phone, or they die out entirely and nobody ever remembers the developers even existed. Sure Verizon offers "Developer Edition" devices, but developers can't have a user base if users cannot install their software. What is the point of developing software for a device if nobody can use it? I'm just saying this is absolute garbage, and we should not take any more of it. Thoughts?
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TouchWiz is not the most horrid operating system I've run (it still isn't superb), but all the same, I'd rather be running pure AOSP (Android Open Source Project), but we need unlocked bootloaders. Come on Verizon, stop sucking! It is my phone and I ought to be able to do what I please with it. Imagine if you bought a fridge from the biggest and most powerful fridge manufacturer (Verizon) only to find out you were only allowed to put strawberries in it. Of all the foods in the entire world, the fridge manufacturer only allows strawberries in the fridge. Sure, it might be fine at first, but what happens when you want to make the fridge your own? As soon as you put a food other than strawberries in said fridge only to find the doors lock and the fridge stops working entirely. Now your fridge is useless because you wanted to support other people and make the fridge your own. If the farmers of the world want to survive, they need to strike deals with the fridge manufacturer in order to get their foods into the fridges. This is a monopoly. There is zero competition; everyone is at the mercy of the fridge manufacturer. This is what Verizon is doing with their phones. Either the developers give in to Verizon's insane demands (money and horrible contracts) to get the software on the phone, or they die out entirely and nobody ever remembers the developers even existed. Sure Verizon offers "Developer Edition" devices, but developers can't have a user base if users cannot install their software. What is the point of developing software for a device if nobody can use it? I'm just saying this is absolute garbage, and we should not take any more of it. Thoughts?
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I think that comparison to the fridge is gold. I am completely on your side to letting my fridge have more than just these damn strawberries. Even though my current fridge is free, I still want my other other fridge to be free!
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Well I had this issue with Motorola and we signed big petitions and got absolutely nowhere. They lost a faithful customer. So I bought this Samsung cause it was easy to do as I wish but they eventually locked it. I personally am not locked but my contract is coming due soon and development is slowly dying. So soon it will be time to move on to another manufacture which may be on a different provider. The question is, will I eventually run out of different manufactures as they all slowly lock down?? I don't know but I will continue to move to the next open device as they come. I am done with crap like this and I'm playing it smarter as I go each time by not buying the device the day it comes (not implying you did) out and keeping an eye on the forums for a month or two before I buy. I need to make sure the coast is clear before buying it. I will most likely be buying the next Nexus to be on the safe side plus their is always a ton of development for it. My contract will be up before it's released but I will just wait before I just buy another device cause I'm available to do so. This will obviously require me to move to another provider so no more Verizon. When my contract is up and they are knocking at my door with deals for a new device I can tell them to blow me. I have 4 phones on my account and you can be rest assured that everyone of them will be removed.
All I can say is rants like this don't get anyone anywhere. I totally agree with you and I'm glad your voicing your disgust and opinion but the best thing for us all to do is simply to move on. They just don't listen and they don't care.
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Well I had this issue with Motorola and we signed big petitions and got absolutely nowhere. They lost a faithful customer. So I bought this Samsung cause it was easy to do as I wish but they eventually locked it. I personally am not locked but my contract is coming due soon and development is slowly dying. So soon it will be time to move on to another manufacture which may be on a different provider. The question is, will I eventually run out of different manufactures as they all slowly lock down?? I don't know but I will continue to move to the next open device as they come. I am done with crap like this and I'm playing it smarter as I go each time by not buying the device the day it comes (not implying you did) out and keeping an eye on the forums for a month or two before I buy. I need to make sure the coast is clear before buying it. I will most likely be buying the next Nexus to be on the safe side plus their is always a ton of development for it. My contract will be up before it's released but I will just wait before I just buy another device cause I'm available to do so. This will obviously require me to move to another provider so no more Verizon. When my contract is up and they are knocking at my door with deals for a new device I can tell them to blow me. I have 4 phones on my account and you can be rest assured that everyone of them will be removed.
All I can say is rants like this don't get anyone anywhere. I totally agree with you and I'm glad your voicing your disgust and opinion but the best thing for us all to do is simply to move on. They just don't listen and they don't care.
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This is sadly the world we live in today. Thankfully, the providers don't have us by the balls just yet, but I fear they soon will. That will be a sad day for the Android community. (Especially considering Android is open source.) Perhaps someday we will be able to publicly voice our concerns and equate our inability to unlock our phones' bootloaders to our (ability/inability) to unlock their SIM cards. It absolutely limits competition, and that's illegal. Thankfully Congress listened to the American people on the SIM card thing, but even if I can unlock my phone's SIM, I cannot use it on another network because my current operating system is locked to Verizon's network. We are literally half way there, but I doubt it will get any further, sadly.
i HATE touchwiz so much that i...dare might say it.... get the new iphone when it comes out. I am sick of VZW not having any really solid phones with pure google
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i HATE touchwiz so much that i...dare might say it.... get the new iphone when it comes out. I am sick of VZW not having any really solid phones with pure google
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Never..... I won't ever subject myself to having anything apple. My kids both have ipods but never will you see me with any apple products.
It is sad they choose not to go with Nexus products at all, personally I think they are really loosing out as tons of people want them but can't get them on this network. I'm still a customer because of the coverage. It's sure as hell not for the prices or even the ability to customize my own device. I don't care if they claim to own it, I pay for it and use it so it's mine plain and simple
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redusk said:
TouchWiz is not the most horrid operating system I've run (it still isn't superb), but all the same, I'd rather be running pure AOSP (Android Open Source Project), but we need unlocked bootloaders. Come on Verizon, stop sucking! It is my phone and I ought to be able to do what I please with it. Imagine if you bought a fridge from the biggest and most powerful fridge manufacturer (Verizon) only to find out you were only allowed to put strawberries in it. Of all the foods in the entire world, the fridge manufacturer only allows strawberries in the fridge. Sure, it might be fine at first, but what happens when you want to make the fridge your own? As soon as you put a food other than strawberries in said fridge only to find the doors lock and the fridge stops working entirely. Now your fridge is useless because you wanted to support other people and make the fridge your own. If the farmers of the world want to survive, they need to strike deals with the fridge manufacturer in order to get their foods into the fridges. This is a monopoly. There is zero competition; everyone is at the mercy of the fridge manufacturer. This is what Verizon is doing with their phones. Either the developers give in to Verizon's insane demands (money and horrible contracts) to get the software on the phone, or they die out entirely and nobody ever remembers the developers even existed. Sure Verizon offers "Developer Edition" devices, but developers can't have a user base if users cannot install their software. What is the point of developing software for a device if nobody can use it? I'm just saying this is absolute garbage, and we should not take any more of it. Thoughts?
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Thoughts... change companies, because they really don;t care about you. We are a very small percent of their business, most people just use their phones as is and its not like you are going to stop using smartphones.
DigitalMD said:
Thoughts... change companies, because they really don;t care about you. We are a very small percent of their business, most people just use their phones as is and its not like you are going to stop using smartphones.
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You hit the nail on the head with that one. My gf has been complaining about the OTA updates on both 4.3 and 4.4 and I told her I could root the phone, she won't hear anything about rooting. Big red will never hear or care about our plights that these are our phones. We can forget about them even caring about what we think
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where to go?
my contract @ Verizon is o.v.e.r.!!! - I'm free- what phone to buy and where to go?? please, anyone, help!
I rooted my S3 (running kitkat) with towelroot- (have busybox and the gang) but the bootloader war is not over. I'm losing this battle with the bootloader and I have a day job... I just want a phone with as much freedom as i can get- any suggestions?
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You hit the nail on the head with that one. My gf has been complaining about the OTA updates on both 4.3 and 4.4 and I told her I could root the phone, she won't hear anything about rooting. Big red will never hear or care about our plights that these are our phones. We can forget about them even caring about what we think
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my contract @ Verizon is o.v.e.r.!!! - I'm free- what phone to buy and where to go?? please, anyone, help!
I rooted my S3 (running kitkat) with towelroot- (have busybox and the gang) but the bootloader war is not over. I'm losing this battle with the bootloader and I have a day job... I just want a phone with as much freedom as i can get- any suggestions?
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Buy a nexus 6 in that case if you want freedom from bootloader lock down. I can't wait until my contract is up in June. I may just buy it out come tax time if I have the money
From my CM11 S3
total agreement, Blue...
yup!
I think they won..... I waited for the contract to be up thinking i scored the gs3 w/o paying... they were too smart for me....
so now i'm stuck with the locked bootloader - stock rom...
here i come, nexus...
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Buy a nexus 6 in that case if you want freedom from bootloader lock down. I can't wait until my contract is up in June. I may just buy it out come tax time if I have the money
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bootloader downgrade
There's a company in Caldwell Texas named Mobile Tech Videos and supposedly they offer a bootloader downgrade service for $50. I've decided to give that a try. Wish me luck, seriously.
Gabe1021 said:
There's a company in Caldwell Texas named Mobile Tech Videos and supposedly they offer a bootloader downgrade service for $50. I've decided to give that a try. Wish me luck, seriously.
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If you decide to please let us know how it turns out. I'm considering the same.
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There's a company in Caldwell Texas named Mobile Tech Videos and supposedly they offer a bootloader downgrade service for $50. I've decided to give that a try. Wish me luck, seriously.
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Caldwell, TX is a small town. How'd you get along with that boot loader unlocking?
Had MF1, a week ago accidently flashed NE1.
Switched to Sprint, bought a S5.
Sold the S3.
Bye bye Verizon.
Gabe1021 said:
There's a company in Caldwell Texas named Mobile Tech Videos and supposedly they offer a bootloader downgrade service for $50. I've decided to give that a try. Wish me luck, seriously.
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Update?
DNak206 said:
Update?
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Looks like nothing has changed for them, see this thread for any updates
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306767
My S3 running BlissStalk
It workded for me
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Sorry I've been busy and hadn't posted my personal experience, but I now can report that I cannot complain about my service with Mobile Tech Videos.
My Verizon Galaxy S3 is rooted and I am running CyanogenMod 10.2.1.
I paid Mobile Tech Videos to unlock the bootloader and install the ROM and I'm perfectly happy with my S3 now.
Gabe1021 said:
Sorry I've been busy and hadn't posted my personal experience, but I now can report that I cannot complain about my service with Mobile Tech Videos.
My Verizon Galaxy S3 is rooted and I am running CyanogenMod 10.2.1.
I paid Mobile Tech Videos to unlock the bootloader and install the ROM and I'm perfectly happy with my S3 now.
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whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa...ive always been led to believe that once u take the NE1 update, that is it, no going back, do not pass go do not collect $200, cannot get the girl, limp sausage forever. so there IS a way to roll back? do u have any idea HOW they did it because theres no way i can send my phone to texas! it cannot have been that difficult, as it was only $50...
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whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa...ive always been led to believe that once u take the NE1 update, that is it, no going back, do not pass go do not collect $200, cannot get the girl, limp sausage forever. so there IS a way to roll back? do u have any idea HOW they did it because theres no way i can send my phone to texas! it cannot have been that difficult, as it was only $50...
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Nobody knows how they do it. And they certainly aren't going to tell anyone how they do it. That would be the easiest way to lose customers.
Hi All,
I've been debating on an M8 for a while. I'm coming from a Note 3 that cannot seem to hold a 4G signal even in very good LTE coverage areas. I am on my second Note 3 due to this issue. I really like the M8 and it's loud speakers and wouldn't mind a bit smaller screen overall compared to the Note 3. It seems the M8 can be had for a decent price so I just wondered if it's still a worthy purchase since it's about 7 months old now.
Also, do you think I'll get similar battery life to my Note 3 (about a day of moderate to heavy usage) with the M8? Anything I should be aware of before purchase? I don't root so I'll be using it as it comes from Verizon. My biggest hope is a better signal and radio reception as the Note 3 sucks. I never had such an issue with signal until I got the Note 3.
Thanks for the info,
Rob
The M8 still holds its own exceedingly well and I do believe it's still worthy of consideration. Namely due to the speakers which you just can't get that experience on any other phone, on Verizon at least.
As far as battery life goes, I'd label the M8 as an above average performer. I'm not sure if it will meet the same spec as the note 3 here, but it certainly is one of the longer lasting phones I've used. Expect 5-6 hours of constant on-screen LTE usage. It has been known to even last longer than the S5's slightly bigger 2800mah so HTC worked some magic in power management it seems.
I've not had signal issues with this phone but this is impossible to gauge on a case by case basis. Everyone lives in different areas with different signal strengths and will have different experiences with it.
Rooting is very possible through S-Off methods though I believe the current working method isn't free. The creators ask $25 for each unlock, which while not completely unreasonable could be a turn off to some.
That being said, in all honesty if it were me purchasing a new phone at this current time, I'd wait to see what the deal with the Nexus 6 and the Droid Turbo is. I probably wouldn't opt for the nexus 6 as I don't prefer to place tablets up to my face, but the turbo seems to be absolutely crazy if the rumors are true.
If you don't want to wait then I'd say the M8 should be up there with the G3, S5 and Note 4. It just comes down to your hardware priorities.
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I've been rooting and romming for years on 4 different devices and I gladly paid the $25 for sunshine. Think about how many times you have gotten a priceless app or mod for free...so you have to pay for one now - no biggie in my opinion. After all, you're getting something very special for the one-time fee of $25. Hey, it's nice to know it works, right? I bet if you ask ANYONE who owned the galaxy S4 on Verizon who ended up taking the OTA that locked their bootloaders (for what seems to be permanently...so far) if they'd pay the $25 to get the ability back, to flash a rom over their stock one, I bet they'd all say ABSOLUTELY!!!! So, I think we're lucky actually
Thanks for the replies. I actually don't have an interest in the new Droid Turbo, I really like the look and feel of the M8. I went to a store and played around with it today. I'm sold on this phone. It should be just as speedy as my Note 3 and last me for as long as I need it. I'm confident the battery will last me as well. The camera seems to be it's weakness but I don't take many pics anyway so it's not a big deal to me.
After looking at the rooting process for the phone I may even go that route and install the CleanROM as well. I have rooted before, way back in the original Droid days but a lot has changed since then. It appears to be rather simple so it'll be worth it to de-bloat the phone. Looking like I'll have one soon.
Thanks again,
Rob
Everyone I interact with loves my phone for its camera. It takes better pics than any iPhone that I've seen in action which discludes the Iphone6. I doubt the I6 is any better though. The M8 takes a more clear brighter correct picture by far than iPhone5.. So don't worry about camera at all you will love it for its camera.
I actually just gave up my note 3 for the m8.... And I couldnt be more happy..... And I believe you'll feel the same way...
Everything on the m8 seems to be better minus the camera. The sound I get from my car system via bluetooth from the m8 compared the note 3, no comparison. I'm a audiophile so that was a big plus for me.
I'm rooted and ROM on sinless had to sunshine. Worth every penny. Enjoy your m8!
What? Rooting and s-off are ENTIRELY FREE. You guys got scammed.
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What? Rooting and s-off are ENTIRELY FREE. You guys got scammed.
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Firewater is free...but it has to work on your device. If it doesn't, Sunshine is your only option. Unless you know of another way.
I would gladly pay for S-off if I needed it. I used weaksauce for free when the M8 first came out. The developer that gave that to us is awesome and I feel that the m8 would be no fun without root. If you can find an exploit for free please let us know. But I doubt you will... @jcase is awesome and spent a good amount of time and he deserves to be credited.
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What? Rooting and s-off are ENTIRELY FREE. You guys got scammed.
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No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
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I would gladly pay for S-off if I needed it. I used weaksauce for free when the M8 first came out. The developer that gave that to us is awesome and I feel that the m8 would be no fun without root. If you can find an exploit for free please let us know. But I doubt you will... @jcase is awesome and spent a good amount of time and he deserves to be credited.
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Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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What? Rooting and s-off are ENTIRELY FREE. You guys got scammed.
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aw man. you dun goofed up bro......
jcase said:
No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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hey man! i would like to personally thank you guys for your work! i got the m8 was searching around.... did some research and found out my m8 had the latest firmware.... was so bummed out. then i found sunshine! thank you again!
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No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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You shouldn't have to put up with crap like this.
I want your post read more so I am def. quoting it, and in the time, going to give my opinion, as I'm pretty pissed that someone considers what you guys provide scamming.
I personally thank you for all that you do for us, for everything, not even in just the HTC forums, but for Android..
Please know that one *to NOT get banned..* umm, person, doesn't speak for the group. Those of us that do appreciate what you do, and understand that it's very expensive and to be honest I think $25 is cheap, (I recall that being the price, when I saw it and felt that to be VERY fair, I know I'd personally pay more.) and I think you should of been charging sooner as in those root threads no one ever looks back but it doesn't seem like you guys get what you were promised. I bet you guys only got what? 30%-50%?
Anyway, sorry for the rant, but arggg..
I am hoping more people read and understand why charging is necessary.. especially if we want to all continue to have root in the future. We are blessed to have this option. Think about the price difference of buying the developer edition.. Sure, you can buy a device (if you are ready for contract upgrade), sell it and use that towards developer edition but I bet you end up paying more than $25 in the end.
Sh!t, I sure as hell know that if an option to unlock the Samsung S5 bootloader for $25 was around, I'd probably be on that device.
Went from a Galaxy Nexus, to a iPhone5s, to a Galaxy S4 ,and now to the HTC m8 last thursday. After 3 days, I can safely say this is hands down the best phone I've ever had. Running completely stock 4.4.3 this thing is fast, great battery life, i can have 10+ apps open and no slow down. Just make sure you enable the ART runtime and your golden.
I was going to look into rooting, flashing this thing but honestly its been so great I dont think I will until I get bored.....
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After looking at the rooting process for the phone I may even go that route and install the CleanROM as well. I have rooted before, way back in the original Droid days but a lot has changed since then. It appears to be rather simple so it'll be worth it to de-bloat the phone. Looking like I'll have one soon.
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I've been running CleanROM for the past several months, and I just have to say, you'll be very happy with it. It's not ENTIRELY as debloated as I would prefer, but that's easily fixed with TiBu (and I'm picky anyway, so your mileage may vary).
And as others have said, it's still a great device. I got mine at launch, and I couldn't be happier.
Disclaimer: The screen is hard (if not impossible) to see when you have polarized sunglasses on, so FYI. And it collects fingerprints like that's it's job.
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I've been running CleanROM for the past several months, and I just have to say, you'll be very happy with it. It's not ENTIRELY as debloated as I would prefer, but that's easily fixed with TiBu (and I'm picky anyway, so your mileage may vary).
And as others have said, it's still a great device. I got mine at launch, and I couldn't be happier.
Disclaimer: The screen is hard (if not impossible) to see when you have polarized sunglasses on, so FYI. And it collects fingerprints like that's it's job.
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Actually, there is a display panel lottery with the M8 regarding the sunglasses issue. My device exhibits this issue, but my friend's does not. His is also a little cooler color temperature wise. However this is a good point to bring up.
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No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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I agree that these developers deserve to get paid for their skill and time. It's just a shame that there are so many cheap ass people that wouldn't donate to the cause and help them out if the people that could have would have then people like me could enjoy an m8 instead of Hateing it. I'm about to sell this phone and go back to my l90. without root the Verizon version of this phone is so horrible and dont even get me started on the stock rom...hasn't HTC heard of a long press menu. It saddens me to see such a beautul piece of hardware reduced to such squalor by the Rom and provider, knowing that the ability to awaken it is just out of my wallets reach.
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Actually, there is a display panel lottery with the M8 regarding the sunglasses issue. My device exhibits this issue, but my friend's does not. His is also a little cooler color temperature wise. However this is a good point to bring up.
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Yeah, I've heard that once before, but only from one person, so I wasn't confident in the info. Good to know it's actually the case. And now I'm annoyed... >_<
personally i think jcase and beaups have the right model for this process.
bounty threads are nice and all, but people promise and don't pay and there is so much heartburn. releasing the app with payments baked in for unlocks makes the model so much more transparent, automatic and accountable. now devs can put their hard work into releasing their exploits and get paid in a clear way from us freeloaders without them having to wonder if their efforts will break even for them.
hey
jcase said:
No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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Hey I had to go the sunshine route also it did not bother me a bit and it worked absolutely wonderful I appreciate the ability to be able to even unlock this phone . The only thing that does suck is I did not do a better physical cosmetic inspection of my M8 before I paid for the sunshine . The upper camera is glued off-center to the case and drives me insane they are sending another one this time I will be sure to more thoroughly inspect it before spending for another unlock .. Believe me I have gotten a lot of things for free from the site and I have no problem chopping off a piece to have a fully unlocked cell phone on Verizon it rocks.. As far as these developers go I know that I have used Jcase exploits over on the Kindle fire HDX ... The device which severely saddens me I had bought two more of them hearing of the Bootloader unlock .... Waited and waited then heard of that bad news . Which I understand all that it just does not make it suck any less .. I would've been happy to pay in a similar manner as this works .. Damn the Man and the fine print. Thanks again jcase and beaups, and all such developers that devote their free time that allows us to enjoy our playtime since this is my first HTC device time to learn how to return to stock and S-on LOL uhg oh but anyway ,i love this phone, coming from Loki,verizon32gbS4 this has much better radio reception and clarity in places where the S4 would not pick up at all and yes the speakers rock. . .
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k.electron said:
personally i think jcase and beaups have the right model for this process.
bounty threads are nice and all, but people promise and don't pay and there is so much heartburn. releasing the app with payments baked in for unlocks makes the model so much more transparent, automatic and accountable. now devs can put their hard work into releasing their exploits and get paid in a clear way from us freeloaders without them having to wonder if their efforts will break even for them.
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jcase said:
No one got scammed by us. Three exploits were released for the m8. Weaksauce (free, by me), firewater (free, by @beaups) and SunShine (paid, by @beaups and myself).
The first two free ones (weaksauce and firewater) were patched, and no longer work on newer devices. We invested much money and time into developing these, and there is no way we could continue doing it for free. It was costing too much money, and negatively impacting us outside of this hobby. Having to explain to the wife why I have to go back to the store, to buy my 4th device of the same model at $700? yeah I better find a way to counter that cost.
Instead of calling us scammers, why don't you look into the facts. We wrote the FREE ones and the paid ones, we invested years of our lives into this field, and tens of thousands of dollars into phones (want pictures of boxes of phones? I can take take them). I think we earned the right to charge for SOME of the things we produce.
Don't forget @beaups, he is awesomer.
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It makes me uncomfortable seeing you have to explain yourself, you shouldn't have to! Anyone who complains do not deserve it cause they would never donate anyway. I feel like it is way worth a good donation and having it free lets us off the hook, we have had plenty for free it is way past time to give back! I thought it felt great to pay the $25 and when I had to I couldn't help but not think twice! Anyone who can afford this phone can afford your great contribution.
Hi.
What kind of power we can have if we will make petition to Samsung software/developement team to do some updates of Android to our phone?
How many users are here that have this awesome mobile?
I always think is good idea to try than moan...
I e-mailed Yotaphone and asked if they would consider making a qwerty slider....
I think it would be beneficial if we all did the same.
It is not my intention, to find new device.
I am fed up going for new.
Old is good enough many times.
Our mobile is enough for emails, www etc. but the only downside is software.
It's not going to happen. Both the carrier (T-Mobile) and Samsung would need to agree that it's worth spending a lot of money to give this phone an upgrade. Given that both companies want you to buy a new phone every 5 minutes, neither of them want people to be satisfied with their old phone. And speaking of old, this phone is almost 3 years old and has a small user base. There are hundreds of more popular phones released between then and now which haven't seen updates, so no one's going to pay much attention to ours. The only way to get updates is to make them ourselves.
If we don't try - we will never know for sure.
How many registered users are in Relay section, can anybody check?
Check in
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I'm still using mine, but it's really a secondary phone at this point. Given that the flex cable is this phone's Achilles heel, I don't slide the keyboard out very often, either.
lol. How about a few of you...
a) learn to code and help move the 5.x support forward,
b) donate a phone to a dev, since the two primary developers no longer OWN a relay (and both have mentioned that they would be willing to work on it if somebody donated a phone).
Sign up at freenode/#apexqtmo
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lol. How about a few of you...
a) learn to code and help move the 5.x support forward,
b) donate a phone to a dev, since the two primary developers no longer OWN a relay (and both have mentioned that they would be willing to work on it if somebody donated a phone).
Sign up at freenode/#apexqtmo
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I would love to learn how to code but no one really has time to teach and i know there are plenty of guides but I'm afraid I'll kill my phone. I've already managed to kill my usb port, not from coding attempts, but nonetheless inoperable. As for donating, the relay is my only working t mobile phone so I don't want to give it up. I would, however would pitch in on one. From what I've seen they go for about 100 or so. I would like to be part of the solution in any way I can.
Another Relay user here...
Since this is one of the last good QWERTY phones around, figured it was time to stop just lurking this forum and sign up lol. I'd also be willing to test any new 5.x ROMs built, since I'll have an alternate phone in a couple of days that I can fall back to if I break this one.
I have a phone and I can code, however I need somebody who give me clue or some direction to follow. I've never coded for hardware, only business apps.
This one is not gonna be cheap, but if it runs android it will be amazing:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/02/blackberry-venice-slider-leak/
Wow! Extremely cool, man! Thanks for the info
Hello all!
First of all I'll say that having spent several hours browsing the forums here I am in awe of what you're all able to achieve!
Anyway, here's my story...
My partner and I have not long moved to South Korea and, with my first paycheck here I decided to treat myself to a Mate 9 after HOURS of research. I've always had older, cheaper smart phones and this was a real 'treat yourself' purchase for me. I ordered my new phone on Gmarket and it arrived, from China, a week later (last Friday). Since then I've been knocking my head against the wall. It's not the international version I've bought myself, but the Chinese version. I can't get google play, gmail and all the other great stuff that really makes an android phone properly useable. I am gutted.
I understand that all is not lost- I can wait two weeks and request a code from Huawei to unlock the bootloader, and from there root the phone and get it onto international firmware... right?
My problem is, after a weekend of looking into this obsessively I feel like I'm in WAAAY over my head. There are so many options for different firmwares, different ways to do it and, well, I'm massively confused.
I'm hoping some kind soul will make me feel less utterly stupid than I feel right now! I'm not wanting to do anything fancy, just change the ROM to make the phone function as if I'd bought it back home in Scotland. Is there an idiots guide to this? I am brand new to this kind of thing and terrified of making a useless lump out of my new phone.
One of the biggest issues with living abroad, I'm over 5000 kilometers from the people I'd usually go and beg for help when I've been a tech dunce.
Specs of the phone;
4 gig ram, 32 gig storage
Running android 7.0
EMUI version 5.0
Build number MHA-AL00C00B213
Thank you all in advance!
-Michael
If that's your only issue you should just get GMS you'll get Google apps.
If your looking to change your Rom and take a dive in this world. Read read read read.
If your just interested in getting it done fast. I would recommend funky Huawei (Google it)
You still need to root. If you don't want to wait for the bootlocker unlock code just get DC-Unlocker.
These are paid services. But they make life easier. If you want a easy step by step guide ask I'll try to make it.
IronSingh said:
If that's your only issue you should just get GMS you'll get Google apps.
If your looking to change your Rom and take a dive in this world. Read read read read.
If your just interested in getting it done fast. I would recommend funky Huawei (Google it)
You still need to root. If you don't want to wait for the bootlocker unlock code just get DC-Unlocker.
These are paid services. But they make life easier. If you want a easy step by step guide ask I'll try to make it.
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Thank you for your reply! I'm sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you, I managed to get the GMS core working and got so excited I forgot! Unfortunately the reason I've remembered is because I'm back on the forum looking for help again. Just about to post a new thread!
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