Hey,
i screwed it up somehow. my phone doesn't work anymore.
After installing the memory card and a hard reset it stops working during the installation.
it just says:
Code:
"INSTALLING APPS
A few more applications still need to finish installing. It should just take another moment or two."
i wait 40mins before i removed the batterie.
after this i try to restore my phone with zune to the NoDo restore point.
failed with error code: 80180090
But the phone restarts normally and my phone recognizes the 16Gb card.
but it doesn't feel smooth anymore. (for example it takes a long time to start enter the settings)
i was also able to connect my phone to zune.
Zune recognizes my sd card as well but when i try to sync Musik it throws an error (C00D124D) after a few songs.
it tryed a softreset but the result is still the same.
right now it shows the
Code:
"INSTALLING APPS
A few more applications still need to finish installing. It should just take another moment or two."
again
it is a vicious circle...
any other ideas?
Greetings from germany
Joel
Newegg's comments on the microSD 32 GB cards they offer rate the cards very low in general. Appearently quality assurance on these cards, or the cards themselves, are extremely flaky. Put the card in your PC and run a stress tester on it.
As for your original 16 GB that seems to be worse, try a hard reset. When changing the cards around, that could have something to do with it.
I used the 32GB card linked in my sig. It actually came in a red package that says for mobile devices. It also appears to be the EXACT same card as the 16GB that came in the phonem only difference is the capacity.
0 issues whatsoever, seems every bit as fast as stock if not a bit faster.
I had such problem with my old 16Gb Kingston Class 2. There were no any problems with installing apps, but phone was not smooth. And there were some problems with syncing Music, it was taken a long of time, and sometimes there were problems during the process.
So, I've installed my original SD 8Gb card, made another hard reset. Now it looks smooth and sync is fast. I decided not to change card anymore, but buy mp3 player with 32 or 64 Gb of memory. Because I don't like how this phone is playing music.
I've purchased a Wintech 32 GB microSD card from Newegg and plan on installing it in this, when I get my tri-wing screw driver set. So I'll let you know how that turns out.
Until then, I've ran just about every stress test I can find against it - and it has no issues. Note: I am not going to do a full format like others are, that seem to have issues in the long run. I am going to use it as the card came.
EDIT: Don't buy the Wintech for WP7.
i managed to bring my phone back to life by simply replacing the new card (Toshiba microSD card 16GB class 4) with the original card.
But 8 GB is a mess i will try it later with another sdcard.
Did anyone could recommend a 16GB/32GB card from a retailer in germany/europe?
Joel
For the record, I had issues as well with my 32 GB upgrade.
After some research, I now see that you should not be getting the highest class card. You need to focus on random access times. The Sandisk 32 GB microSDHC really is the card to get perhaps. Still a bet.
I'm ebaying my Wintect 32 GB class 10 to some Android user. For our WP7, it's all about how quickly you can find the fragmented data - not how fast you can read the data. Think, "need to find it fast enough, or the phone will reboot".
Hello Everyone,
In present times, if a company does not "innovate" or CREATE then its done for them..
But innovation has taken on to mobiles like anything.
You have OSes, you have hardwares the might of a mini-supercomputer wrapped into the mobile phones, and you have accessories to take that to the next level as well.
Above all if something lacks then it might be compensated by an application to some extent.
But of late these mobile manufacturers have started making fun of the very consumer who buys it from them and gives them business.
Cost competitiveness is the forte for a mobile phone company, but I simply do not understand why this ridiculous 16gb and 64gb variants for specifically the versions WITHOUT AN EXPANDABLE STORAGE..
FRUSTRATING AND @@[email protected][email protected]$$ what not...
YES this thread is about the LIMITED STORAGE ISSUE, you guessed it right..
Well you now have companies offering accessories which can personalize your device with NFC, extended battery, Music centric features, slider keyboards and stuff like what next.. in the back panels/ back covers.....
I have a innovative idea myself, well they dont call me the strategist just like that.....
What if an accessory was to extend the storage of your device....
like make a 16gb non external sd storage device get extra from a back cover or plate.....
If something can be possible, then this would be awesome because we people who need that extra storage wont have to clammer for a OTG or Pendrives.....
Pls some BACK Cover for this purpose to extend the storage so that we dont have to fiddle with an OTG option which is an extra and this will also be like fixed/ permanent with the mobile ...
let me know your thoughts on this people....
Warm Regards,
I have a cool idea, what if we could have an access port on each phone that could accept the cards of your choice.
Like first you buy the hardware (phone) then you can have your choice of cards that the memory for the entire phone would use, the only internal memory installed on the phone would be what was needed to hold the rom, the card would have two seperate modules, one for the ram, the the second for the storage.
As far as making it universal to all phones manufacturers would set forth a common socket to be used (much like a crazy microsd slot)
This would make manufacturing the hardware alot cheaper and add more customization at the consumer level
So the card would come with say a standard 2gb ram/14gb storage and as you go you could have say 16gb ram/16gb storage,
Design could be based on the current class 10 microsd only with it having 2 different module set and having direct access from the cpu via a memory manager.
O and when we switch phones all our information would go with us because we could put it in our new phone and our phones numbers, apps, (granted will need reinstalling,) txts, pics, ect
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16 GB ram is impossie due to other hardware limitations. Internal memory must be embedded to the motherboard to prevent disconnection and to maximize speed, because you will have your system in there, after all.
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Ram dose not haft to be hard wired to the board, look at pcs with expandable memory. My point is you would have 2 physical cards in one with access point for both witch will be controlled by a memory manager that is directly connected to the cpu. We are on the move to ddr4 witch means memory will hit the 22nm scale so packing 16, 32, 64, ir even 128gb would be no problem. Also with high transfer rates of ddr4 module lag between card, manager, and cpu would all be dependent on the set bus speed for the cpu and throughput of the manager
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Yes physical hardware problems right now. I mean in the next batch of phones. This is mainly just for r&d and it is possible. Ya know 10 years ago 4gb of ram was unheard of in any pc, now we have it in a phone
So, Sammy did this same erroneous move on the S6 and now again on the S21, no sd card slot. I know any replies are speculative at best, but do we suppose that theyre gonna bring it back on the 22? they cited the exact same bs reason on the S6 "storage will be in the cloud" as this time. I guess my real question is anyone really missing the sd card slot and any speculations of Sammy bringing it back on the 22?
I sincerely doubt it'll come back, their most direct competitor (Apple) hasn't supported secondary storage ever so the general public doesn't seem to care.
I have an S21+ and I made sure to get one with 256 GB storage - I reviewed how much local storage I used on my S*+ SD card and "only" had about 100GB on a device with only 64GB internal storage. So, I figure 256 should be okay long term.
The only class of data I haven't pulled across from my SD card was the local photo albums, but they were only a few GB. I may yet refresh that but the days of "here look at my pics" and not having enough data network or wifi for Google Photos to function well are long behind me.
Now, the offline mapping data and offline music storage - that's the bulk of my data, and the ~ 100 GB usage leaves plenty of space left for apps and OS updates and such, for me.
If your uses include numerous large apps (e.g. games) and much more content then you'd need the 512GB variant to be safe, IMO.
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So, Sammy did this same erroneous move on the S6 and now again on the S21, no sd card slot. I know any replies are speculative at best, but do we suppose that theyre gonna bring it back on the 22? they cited the exact same bs reason on the S6 "storage will be in the cloud" as this time. I guess my real question is anyone really missing the sd card slot and any speculations of Sammy bringing it back on the 22?
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I almost didn't buy my S21+ 5G because of no SD card slot.
My S9+ had the SD card slot and I miss it.
Screw samsung. No slot, no sale.
Between that and Android 11/12 and their Apple lust, the next release looks like it will be more dog meat. I'll get a used Note 10+ 512gb running on Pie, remain happy and save money.
Ain't nothing to me...
The Note 20 U is the other option but it's price for now is too high. If it doesn't have a huge square cornered display, I don't want to look at it.
The round corner displays looked horrible. Samsung will probably screw up there too.
I honestly don't miss it. I thought I would, so I opted for the 256GB model and even that still appears to be overkill at this point. I get that there are certainly use cases where it would be critical for some people, but Samsung isn't targeting those folks.
Hurricane Andrew said:
I honestly don't miss it. I thought I would, so I opted for the 256GB model and even that still appears to be overkill at this point. I get that there are certainly use cases where it would be critical for some people, but Samsung isn't targeting those folks.
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You use the SD card as a data drive.
Yes... a dual drive hand held computer.
Even my laptop is set up like this.
Only the OS, apps and downloads go on the internal memory. The data is more secure on a separate drive.
I can do a factory reset without losing data and no internet connection. No hours of reloading data.
Even my app copies are stored there, no Playstore needed.
A full reload on my stock phone takes me about 2 hours to fully restore.
Try AnyBackup, you can transfer your data to micro SD card easily, if you are a fan of Micro SD card.
you can google it for details.
SD card slots are like the optical drives in PC, IMHO. You're scared that you might need it one day, but they're obsolete already. You can easily (and better) replace them with USB-C flash drives. I've been without an optical drive on my pc for 10 years and without SD card on my phones for 3+ years (Starting with Huawei P20 Pro and now GS21+) and never have a problem. Won't go back to SD cards either as well.
I never use SD cards as data storage mainly because they're slow. Try recording a 4K video on SD card and you'll know what I mean. Unless you've got a UHS II or above class SD card, you'll have problems.
Storage space-wise, My P20 Pro is 128GB and now my GS21+ is 256 GB and I never have problem with space. If you took a lot of videos or photos, just backup your vids or photos to a USB-C flash drive and delete it from your phone periodically.
blackhawk said:
You use the SD card as a data drive.
Yes... a dual drive hand held computer.
Even my laptop is set up like this.
Only the OS, apps and downloads go on the internal memory. The data is more secure on a separate drive.
I can do a factory reset without losing data and no internet connection. No hours of reloading data.
Even my app copies are stored there, no Playstore needed.
A full reload on my stock phone takes me about 2 hours to fully restore.
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I remember those days where I flash my phone twice every week with the CyanogenMod nightlies and have to backup/ restore data every time. I did the same as you mount/ remount SD card as data partition. But those days are gone. And most of those people are too. They're not left much, becoming endangered species already. Most of the normal phone users never factory reset their phones and wipe/ restore their data every Friday. Samsung knows it. Huawei knows it. There is more performance benefit in chopping SD card off and use faster internal storage for all the read/writes.
Actually Huawei tries to save it with their home-brew Nano Memory Card but didn't succeed. Not a lot of people buying those cards. So, yeah, they listened to the market instead of a bunch of enthusiastic "power" users. We need to find our own way for our better convenience to adapt the changes.
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I remember those days where I flash my phone twice every week with the CyanogenMod nightlies and have to backup/ restore data every time. I did the same as you mount/ remount SD card as data partition. But those days are gone. And most of those people are too. They're not left much, becoming endangered species already. Most of the normal phone users never factory reset their phones and wipe/ restore their data every Friday. Samsung knows it. Huawei knows it. There is more performance benefit in chopping SD card off and use faster internal storage for all the read/writes.
Actually Huawei tries to save it with their home-brew Nano Memory Card but didn't succeed. Not a lot of people buying those cards. So, yeah, they listened to the market instead of a bunch of enthusiastic "power" users. We need to find our own way for our better convenience to adapt the changes.
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All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...
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All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...
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Cut and paste only. Especially for wav files.
blackhawk said:
All my machines are dual or greater. Even my ancient Dell laptop.
No SD card slot, no sale... it's simply too much of a burden not to have one.
I could easily put 1.5 tb of data on a drive. Right now it's about 340 gb. To load that on the internal takes about 6 hours making a factory reset an all day nightmare.
Really I want dual SD card slots...
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Oh yes, I've also have 3 HDDs (one M.2 boot drive, + one 3.5" HDD for Data + Apps and one 2.5" HDD for music) in my desktop, 2 HDDs in my office laptop (Boot + Data) and only 1 drive in my personal laptop (Lenovo Yoga which everything is soldered onto the mobo). But the sad thing is you don't get my point. From the manufacturers' POV, you're one out of million. And they won't care. Coz the rest of 99.99999% of the users don't need what you need.
Sadly, it's not No SD, no sale. Apple already proved it. Huawei already proved it. Pixel already proved it. It's just no SD, no buy for you only bro. Get real.
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Oh yes, I've also have 3 HDDs (one M.2 boot drive, + one 3.5" HDD for Data + Apps and one 2.5" HDD for music) in my desktop, 2 HDDs in my office laptop (Boot + Data) and only 1 drive in my personal laptop (Lenovo Yoga which everything is soldered onto the mobo). But the sad thing is you don't get my point. From the manufacturers' POV, you're one out of million. And they won't care. Coz the rest of 99.99999% of the users don't need what you need.
Sadly, it's not No SD, no sale. Apple already proved it. Huawei already proved it. Pixel already proved it. It's just no SD, no buy for you only bro. Get real.
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Allow me to retort...
I'm real. That's why I'm holding a dual drive 1 tb 10+ in my hand at this moment
I wouldn't have an Apple or Pixel if they were free let alone hackware from the CCP even if they had SD card slots
They proved nothing; there's a sucker born every minute. You can get rich on them, that was proven over a hundred years ago.
blackhawk said:
Allow me to retort...
I'm real. That's why I'm holding a dual drive 1 tb 10+ in my hand at this moment
I wouldn't have an Apple or Pixel if they were free let alone hackware from the CCP even if they had SD card slots
They proved nothing; there's a sucker born every minute. You can get rich on them, that was proven over a hundred years ago.
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You're as real as a Bengal Tiger sir.
Are Bengal Tigers real? Yes they are. Aren't they magnificent? Hell yes they are. Do they still exists? Yes they do, but not a lot.
Oh, and here are some not-so-fun facts for you.
Current top devices list in XDA developers.
- OnePlus 8T - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 3 - No SD Card slot
- Huawei Mate 40 Pro - No SD Card slot (with NM Card slot)
- Redmi 9 - with SD Card Slot
- Realme X2 Pro - No SD Card slot
- Galaxy S21+ - No SD Card slot
- Google Pixel 5 - No SD Card slot
GSMArena top smart phones for 2021
- Galaxy S21 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- Poco F3 - No SD Card slot
- Mi 11 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 5 - No SD Card slot
- iPhone 12 Mini - No SD Card slot
- Moto G100 - with SD Card slot
- Redmi Note 10 Pro - with SD Card slot
- Redmi 9 - with - SD Card slot
out of all, only some mid-tier, yesteryear, CCCP hackware devices have got the SD card slot. So, have fun with it.
spiderx_mm said:
You're as real as a Bengal Tiger sir.
Are Bengal Tigers real? Yes they are. Aren't they magnificent? Hell yes they are. Do they still exists? Yes they do, but not a lot.
Oh, and here are some not-so-fun facts for you.
Current top devices list in XDA developers.
- OnePlus 8T - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 3 - No SD Card slot
- Huawei Mate 40 Pro - No SD Card slot (with NM Card slot)
- Redmi 9 - with SD Card Slot
- Realme X2 Pro - No SD Card slot
- Galaxy S21+ - No SD Card slot
- Google Pixel 5 - No SD Card slot
GSMArena top smart phones for 2021
- Galaxy S21 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- Poco F3 - No SD Card slot
- Mi 11 Ultra - No SD Card slot
- ROG Phone 5 - No SD Card slot
- iPhone 12 Mini - No SD Card slot
- Moto G100 - with SD Card slot
- Redmi Note 10 Pro - with SD Card slot
- Redmi 9 - with - SD Card slot
out of all, only some mid-tier, yesteryear, CCCP hackware devices have got the SD card slot. So, have fun with it.
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No SD card slot was a bad bet on Samsung's part. High end phones are a luxury now... they better be loaded with more than bloatware. It is their customers that define them not the other way around. Customer loyalty is a gift best not abused.
Word on the street is there will more flagship phones with SD card slots in 2022.
Either way I'm good for another 5 years.
Right it's Android that's the bottleneck... and it's in a high G flat spin. 11 is a disaster.
Q is as high as I'll go but Pie is preferable.
In five years Android like Apple may not matter to me
I miss it for a number of reasons. Granted I have a need for lots of storage as I travel quite often and I enjoy having a wide variety of movies and music at my disposal, over 300GB just in movies. So it boils down to preferences. Cloud Storage is a no go, it comes at a cost per month and it's venerable to security and privacy hacks. Transferring a large amount of data to a different device is done in seconds, not minutes or hours. For most 256GB is sufficient but after system usage is subtracted you'll have closer to 200GB left for data and apps. I held off on acquiring the S21 Ultra and lack of the SD Micro was the main reason. Samsung lowered the Internal Storage on the S21 and S21 Plus, maxed out at 256GB but prior to that you could get up to 1TB on previous S Series devices. Also forget about getting a 512GB device from a US Branded Carrier, they don't have any! I would have aquired a 128GB S21 Ultra like I did on my S10 Plus, plug in the card and I'm done, IF it had external memory. So Samsung got what they wanted, $400.00 more of my hard earned money!
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I miss it for a number of reasons. Granted I have a need for lots of storage as I travel quite often and I enjoy having a wide variety of movies and music at my disposal, over 300GB just in movies. So it boils down to preferences. Cloud Storage is a no go, it comes at a cost per month and it's venerable to security and privacy hacks. Transferring a large amount of data to a different device is done in seconds, not minutes or hours. For most 256GB is sufficient but after system usage is subtracted you'll have closer to 200GB left for data and apps. I held off on acquiring the S21 Ultra and lack of the SD Micro was the main reason. Samsung lowered the Internal Storage on the S21 and S21 Plus, maxed out at 256GB but prior to that you could get up to 1TB on previous S Series devices. Also forget about getting a 512GB device from a US Branded Carrier, they don't have any! I would have aquired a 128GB S21 Ultra like I did on my S10 Plus, plug in the card and I'm done, IF it had external memory. So Samsung got what they wanted, $400.00 more of my hard earned money!
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that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.
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that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.
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So... you really do need the 2 SD card slots
Cloud stuff can puke all over you at any given moment. At least it take a near EMI pulse to kill the phone otherwise even with no internet you still got some fun in your pocket.
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that's because you've got 300+ GB of movies. If you've got 1.5 TB of movies like mine, you'll give up the idea of putting all your movies in your phone. Moreover, how many of the movies have you actually watch when you're travelling?
And what you said is correct, the cloud storage is totally no-go. Unnecessarily expensive. My solution to the problem is a private cloud. A cloud enabled NAS is the solution you should look for. It's cost-effective in long term. Many of those NAS has got built-in Plex Media Server so that you can stream all the movies and music you've left at home from anywhere. Yes, data charges might incur. Plex always allow you to download some movies for offline viewing. For me, it's a good investment, especially when it's not a one-device solution. I can stream my own movies from my laptop, my smart TV, my phone, my desktop, virtually anywhere as long as it has internet access.
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It's not a question of how many movies I can watch, it's having the ability to watch anything I chose. Same with music however audio files are nowhere near the size as movies which are typically 1.5 to 3GB's. Your solution isn't practical for ME as many times my travel is on long haul flights, 15 hours or more where accessing the internet is costly or in some instances unavailable. So this solution is the most practical option. NAS may be a more secure cloud platform but it's still not beyond the reach of expert hackers if they ever chose to target it. Beyond that lots of users still utilize and appreciate MicroSD Storage on phones, laptops and PC's and many feel Samsung and other manufacturers dropped the feature too soon without having a more practical solution in place. Samsung and others main goal was increasing profitability, which explains why they cut back on internal storage on S21 and S21 Plus devices. To put it in prospective up until the S21 you could have your total memory up to 2TB's but now most are limited to 256GB's and a lower share at 512GB's. That's a huge difference one model later. Then on dual-sim card trays Samsung modified the template so it's now stacked to save internal space. They could have easily made one side of the tray template a bit larger to accommodate a MicroSD. So the issue isn't with saving hardware space, it's no doubt $$$. To pay around $1,400.00 USD for a massive device without a tiny MicroSD is a sin!