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Hi everyone,
After reading this article, and the recent blaming game between LG and Google over low supply of Nexus 4,
http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/21/...rking-with-motorola-to-design-its-own-x-phone
Theoretically, if LG would make the Nexus 5 from their own flagship device of Optimus G Pro, most consumers would definitely choose the cheaper version Nexus 5 and it would definitely be a business loss for LG flagship device'slow sales (Optimus G Pro)
I think it only make sense that Google would manufacture their next flagship device by their own OEM, Motorola Mobile division. and perhaps if this will be true. Motorola brand would return its good press impression in the mobile tech world.
what do you think, guys?

I think Google will tap Motorola to build a stock Android device eventually. But when ? Most think maybe end of this year, possibly the Nexus-Five.
Others say no, Google is afraid of pissing off partners like Samsung, HTC, Sony, etc...And we might never see a Motorola Nexus.
Time will tell, but doubt we hear any news until Google I/O in May, and even then don't surprise to hear no Motorola news. I think it might be 2014.
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I think Google/Motorola will be cranking out phones in a year or two.
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Lot of news and rumors building around the Xphone recently. I think it WILL be announced in May. It'd be perfect time. Announce Android 5.0 on Xphone. Will be double breakthrough for Goog

I was hoping for an announcement at I/O, but if Google's CFO was speaking truth and not misdirection, it seems like the chances of that happening are less than I originally hoped. I'm running with my Toro right now, and it is sufficing thanks to some great ROMs (see MMuzzy's at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762846), but I would love to get my hands on newer tech. The real question right now for me tho is, which carrier will that be with??

They are gonna be separate device imo. :silly: nexus 5 will release in october-ish and "x" phone in summer. I want to buy any fro th either of two (would prefer nexus) which releases quicker. I'm not buying the nexus 4 cuz i'm waiting for either the nexus 5 or motorola "x" , hopefully the motorolla x will run stock android.

They worked together already a while back when creating the XOOM By Google and it was a complete success, I wouldn't mind if the next Nexus phone be Motorola... But I always wanted even after realizing that it's almost impossible; an Asus phone .. "ASUS Nexus 5 by Google" Ohh that sounds sweet, BUT...

Lenovo Mobile to be dissolved and sell all phones under the Motorola branding

Very interesting... This could be a great thing or a horrible thing depending on if they let moto be moto or if crappy lenovo get's their way. What do you think?
http://www.androidauthority.com/rep...be-dissolved-and-merged-with-motorola-637304/

Now all them layoffs make perfect sense.
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explains the delay/lack of communication? Why wouldnt you wait till the phone is release.. so dumb

joshhud said:
explains the delay/lack of communication? Why wouldnt you wait till the phone is release.. so dumb
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lol yeah, terrible timing but I expect that from Lenovo. I used to do support for them back in the day.

This is great news especially for those of us who live in countries where motorola is absent. Lenovo has much better global reach.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Very interesting... This could be a great thing or a horrible thing depending on if they let moto be moto or if crappy lenovo get's their way. What do you think?
http://www.androidauthority.com/rep...be-dissolved-and-merged-with-motorola-637304/
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The good news is Lenovo has better supply chain management. The bad news neither company has very good customer support. Even the supply chain part assumes Lenovo will support
with resources. It frankly seems more like a graceful exit from Lenovo brand in the phone market. Lenovo did no favors to either company with the absolutely poorly timed layoffs. A corporate
saboteur could not hope for better.
A strong Pure/Style release would help, but already Moto Play is in supply issues out of the gate.

Who's thinking about getting a Z?

Looks very tempting to me. I've always liked the Moto X line and the added features it brings. I kind of like the JBL module too. I'm going to keep my eye on this phone until the end of the year and make a decision. It's probably going to be between the Z, OnePlus 3, and the new Nexus.

I will think about it below $400.
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It looks like you'll be waiting a little while for that price.
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I've recently moved over to an iPhone with my wife. I still have a handful of the newer Android phones, but the Moto Z doesn't really pique my interest like the One Plus 3 does. Then again I'll probably wait for the next Nexus and see what happens with that.

Count me in for Moto Z ?

I would think of buying a motorola but i just remembered they dumped my moto maxx with no updates. So, my buying desicion is pending partner support ( basically never ever happening )
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i'll most def be getting a Moto Z force Driod since im on verizion with a upgrade available

damiloveu said:
I will think about it below $400.
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Quite expensive for this kind of brand

Semseddin said:
I would think of buying a motorola but i just remembered they dumped my moto maxx with no updates. So, my buying desicion is pending partner support ( basically never ever happening )
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Come on over to the Moto Maxx forums, we have CM13 and Resurrection Remix being actively maintained
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As for what I think of the Z:
They need a much larger selection of modules if they want to make an impact on the market, and they need to continue making phones that support these mods.
I don't plan on buying one right now, simply because I'm in college and don't have money to throw at new phones... but if this Droid Turbo (Verizon's "special" Moto Maxx) breaks, the Moto Z is high on the list. I've always had Motorola phones and I haven't had any reason to look elsewhere yet

Im really thinking about it. I currently have an LG g3, Samsung galaxy s4 and Samsung galaxy s5. The g3 have good memory ram management, but it has an IPS screen (which is good: no image burn like in amoled; and bad: no as bright as Amoled screen). The s4 is okay but ram managment is not as good as LG G3, the same with the S5, however, both have Super amoled screen ( which is good: very bright screen; and bad: it might develop burn in image if not careful). sooo the moto z/z force has 4 GB or Ram , and have Amoled screen. It also have sd card slot, and it might not only be limited to those modules. The LG G5 was my first option, but this one seems to be less prone to have built quality issues, unlike LG g5. but i'm also having my eye on Project Google Ara, but that one will be for 2017. Still, i think the modular design of Moto Z/Z force is one that can be truly called a modular phone. there is no need to remove battery (it is impossible anyway) to use the modules. in addition to that good amount of mAh it comes with by default (at least the Z force. So chances are 70% that i will buy this one over the g5

damiloveu said:
I will think about it below $400.
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Lol a modular phone less than $400? Maybe the Project Ara from Google in 2017 ?

Will buy, if it can be rooted!
So I will buy this in a heart beat, but it must be rootable. I'm hoping it can since the Moto X Pure Edition could...
Any thoughts?

[email protected] said:
So I will buy this in a heart beat, but it must be rootable. I'm hoping it can since the Moto X Pure Edition could...
Any thoughts?
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Aaah yess. I mean. I could use it without root but having root always makes it a lot better. Although, the modularity part would be a little tricky if custom roms are released. Something tells me that there is more to it than just "plug and play" or in this case, attatch. But... I think they will release the tools (or make it open to the public so they can come up with ideas for new modules) this will make it easier i think

Price
This might be a rumor but if this rumor happens then... Well, It will be a better deal than the LG G5. According to this website: https://motog3.com/moto-z-moto-z-force-moto-mods/
The price for the Moto Z will be $499 dollars, and for the Moto Z Force $549. If this happens to be true, then I like the way they raised the price just a couple of bucks more for the Z force unlike other devices which raise up to $200 bucks more for a better version let's say. Anyway, I've posted a picture of what it says.

I hope those prices hold, but on Verizon with Droid slapped on them I kind of doubt it.
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benjamminh said:
I hope those prices hold, but on Verizon with Droid slapped on them I kind of doubt it.
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That's why I'll be waiting for the international version of the Force, even though I'm on Verizon

As someone who loved their moto x pure edition, but shattered the phone on space mountain (disneyland)... I've been holding out for the new moto x announcement. Instead we got the Moto Z announced in it's place, while it seems cool... it seems to sacrifice quite a few features I really enjoyed and I'm concerned about losing. Particularly the audio jack, I'm also worried about the longevity of the hold of these magnetic mod plates... I'm in a bit of a bind, I can't really keep using my friend's old bind, but i'm unsure if I'll want the moto Z at this point (although it looks pretty awesome). I'm debaiting on picking up another moto x pure since they're on sale right now and giving away a free moto 360 sport which I wouldn't mind playing around with. What are your guy's thoughts?

Seirÿu said:
As someone who loved their moto x pure edition, but shattered the phone on space mountain (disneyland)... I've been holding out for the new moto x announcement. Instead we got the Moto Z announced in it's place, while it seems cool... it seems to sacrifice quite a few features I really enjoyed and I'm concerned about losing. Particularly the audio jack, I'm also worried about the longevity of the hold of these magnetic mod plates... I'm in a bit of a bind, I can't really keep using my friend's old bind, but i'm unsure if I'll want the moto Z at this point (although it looks pretty awesome). I'm debaiting on picking up another moto x pure since they're on sale right now and giving away a free moto 360 sport which I wouldn't mind playing around with. What are your guy's thoughts?
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If the audio jack is a problem for you, and you loved the Pure Edition so much, I'd say get it again now since you do get the free smartwatch. However keep in mind that it's the Sport, which is the worst of their smartwatches, and the Pure Edition is near it's end of life, especially considering Moto's recent history...

joseguillen1994 said:
This might be a rumor but if this rumor happens then... Well, It will be a better deal than the LG G5. According to this website: https://motog3.com/moto-z-moto-z-force-moto-mods/
The price for the Moto Z will be $499 dollars, and for the Moto Z Force $549. If this happens to be true, then I like the way they raised the price just a couple of bucks more for the Z force unlike other devices which raise up to $200 bucks more for a better version let's say. Anyway, I've posted a picture of what it says.
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https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-droid-edition
Says 625 for moto z.. I know it's a droid edition but I wonder if unlock will be cheaper..
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Only way I'll get the Moto Z Force (or any new phone) is if it ends up being able to unlock the bootloader and root, which can take time. Until that happens, I'll keep using the Note 4 Developer Edition.

Nexus Isn't Dead

Stephen Hall (from 9to5Google) tweeted that "Nexus isn't dead." https://twitter.com/hallstephenj/status/780211011823337472
Slash Gear had an article which mentions future Nexus phones, not just tablets. http://www.slashgear.com/google-pixel-vs-nexus-key-details-of-the-not-quite-dead-28457902/
Unfortunately, there isn't much information or proof mentioned, and I don't know the reliability of either one of them. Are there other Nexus rumors floating around out there, or is this just wishful thinking?

ive had the g1(dream), nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 4, nexus 5, nexus 6, and the 2012 nexus 7. its 100% that the nexus isnt dead until google says its dead. BUT.. at this point, im believing that the nexus will be dead :crying:

Yeah. The guy from 9to5Google said later his opinion was there probably wouldn't be another *phone*. I'm guessing he was referring to the new Huawei tablet.
Too bad. I bought my wife the LG Nexus 5X last year and have been following the development of T50/Sailfish/Pixel since early this year. Unfortunately, it would almost take a miracle to get me to buy it now.

It's high time to replace my beloved Nexus 5. Was hoping this year's Nexus device would be the upgrade of my dreams, but I'm with you. If the $650 price point is true, I can't see anything to get me to buy Pixel. Uninspired design at a premium price.

I owned a couple of nexus phones before but they're not really relevant now these days.

In a year Google will realize their Pixel major mistake and revive the Nexus!

I don't know. The Nexus line wasn't exactly a super seller, and I think Big G is now interested in profits only--from phones and services, as well as whatever they can harvest for their focus on AI. If you look in almost any industry, there is a market for cheap garbage and uber-expensive stuff. There really isn't much for the best-bang-for-your-buck. I'd like to think there'd be another Nexus phone, but it'll be too late for me. Not just because I'm going to get an HTC 10, but I've been rather disappointed with most news I've heard about El Goog since they reorganized under Alphabet. However, admittedly, some of it relates to their ongoing anti-trust investigations over the last couple of years. If it lasts for a while, and if Sailfish OS gains traction, this HTC 10 will most likely be my last Android phone. I'm not happy with Big G's recent direction.

SlowRain said:
I don't know. The Nexus line wasn't exactly a super seller, and I think Big G is now interested in profits only--from phones and services, as well as whatever they can harvest for their focus on AI. If you look in almost any industry, there is a market for cheap garbage and uber-expensive stuff. There really isn't much for the best-bang-for-your-buck. I'd like to think there'd be another Nexus phone, but it'll be too late for me. Not just because I'm going to get an HTC 10, but I've been rather disappointed with most news I've heard about El Goog since they reorganized under Alphabet. However, admittedly, some of it relates to their ongoing anti-trust investigations over the last couple of years. If it lasts for a while, and if Sailfish OS gains traction, this HTC 10 will most likely be my last Android phone. I'm not happy with Big G's recent direction.
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You made a point here. They started showing their hunger. For example "Youtube Red" [emoji28]
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What I read is that Google has "no plans" for future Nexus devices. Plans can change. The Nexus line is/was a platform for development. It's no accident that each new version of Android incorporates more and more features created by the independent, enthusiast development community (ie: CyanogenMod).
No new Nexus phones this year, now they're doing this Pixel thing. I think it's going to fail, and fail hard. There's no way it's going to be successful at those prices. It's not as naively ridiculous as the Amazon Fire phone, but it's still way too much money for a phone that doesn't have the features and functions of other flagship phones from Samsung, LG, Apple, etc. Most of us here enjoy a stock or near-stock Android, but we're an extremely small part of the smartphone market.

[OFFICIAL] Moto X Pure/Style is NOT getting Android Oreo update from Moto

Yeah, I know... we figured that already, but the official list is out...
https://blog.motorola.com/2017/09/14/say-hello-android-oreo/
Interesting that the G4/G4+ are missing from the list as well, many people thought it would get it. Glad I dumped my MXPE, just sold it yesterday for $180.

acejavelin said:
Yeah, I know... we figured that already, but the official list is out...
https://blog.motorola.com/2017/09/14/say-hello-android-oreo/
Interesting that the G4/G4+ are missing from the list as well, many people thought it would get it. Glad I dumped my MXPE, just sold it yesterday for $180.
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Yep. Kind of a given since the device release date was 24 months ago. I'm not mad though. I get by just fine with my mxpe for now. But I will be a little more picky with battery life next go around.

October 4th can't come soon enough!!!!

acejavelin said:
Yeah, I know... we figured that already, but the official list is out...
https://blog.motorola.com/2017/09/14/say-hello-android-oreo/
Interesting that the G4/G4+ are missing from the list as well, many people thought it would get it. Glad I dumped my MXPE, just sold it yesterday for $180.
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Did you sell it on Swappa? Just curious, I just got back a replacement from Moto Care and I am thinking of doing the same.

I guess it might as well be considered official that XT1575 will never see Nougat, either.
Lenovo dev who was assigned to the Style/Pure N update pitching an idea for his next project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDQcgkDn0yU

$180 eh... I'll be happy to get $100 for it when I'm done with it LOL This thing's insides must be melted by now and I'm surprised mine is still in working condition. I felt the screen today and it was hot enough to burn. It was really hot outside too. How do people in tropical countries use this phone??...

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Did you sell it on Swappa? Just curious, I just got back a replacement from Moto Care and I am thinking of doing the same.
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No, local classified ad Facebook page.

acejavelin said:
No, local classified ad Facebook page.
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Ahh Gotcha.

sk8223 said:
$180 eh... I'll be happy to get $100 for it when I'm done with it LOL This thing's insides must be melted by now and I'm surprised mine is still in working condition. I felt the screen today and it was hot enough to burn. It was really hot outside too. How do people in tropical countries use this phone??...
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The 32GB model has recent sale average price of $171 on Swappa... I was asking $200 with 3 cases (2 never used, sealed).

Guys, I'm considering buying this phone after almost 2 years with Mot X 2014. My question is "how xda friendly is Moto X 2015?" Unlocking bootloader and flashing ROMs on Moto X 2014 was piece of a cake.
I'm on custom Android 7 based ROM now, performance is great and the only issue for me is storage. 16 Gb isn't sufficient.
Manually flashing custom Oreo ROM eventually on Moto X 2015 would be something I expect to do later next year... if I decide to buy it.

Muito Xt1575 not arrieved the 7.0 yet, the 8 only in dreams.

Android 8 custom roms is real future for moto pure ?

LoL i might buy new OnePlus 5 (soecial edition) which will be officially announced by next week
hope to see more Banger features in it

dego_ said:
Guys, I'm considering buying this phone after almost 2 years with Mot X 2014. My question is "how xda friendly is Moto X 2015?" Unlocking bootloader and flashing ROMs on Moto X 2014 was piece of a cake.
I'm on custom Android 7 based ROM now, performance is great and the only issue for me is storage. 16 Gb isn't sufficient.
Manually flashing custom Oreo ROM eventually on Moto X 2015 would be something I expect to do later next year... if I decide to buy it.
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Nougat is still a little buggy for this device. Have no idea if it ever gets unofficial Oreo. Also, it's just a little old. Don't get me wrong, I'm using this phone, but if you want to buy another device, choose different model... from different company.

dego_ said:
Guys, I'm considering buying this phone after almost 2 years with Mot X 2014. My question is "how xda friendly is Moto X 2015?" Unlocking bootloader and flashing ROMs on Moto X 2014 was piece of a cake.
I'm on custom Android 7 based ROM now, performance is great and the only issue for me is storage. 16 Gb isn't sufficient.
Manually flashing custom Oreo ROM eventually on Moto X 2015 would be something I expect to do later next year... if I decide to buy it.
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Noooo don't do it! D: What's your budget? There are better phones with better specs out there.

dego_ said:
Guys, I'm considering buying this phone after almost 2 years with Mot X 2014. My question is "how xda friendly is Moto X 2015?" Unlocking bootloader and flashing ROMs on Moto X 2014 was piece of a cake.
I'm on custom Android 7 based ROM now, performance is great and the only issue for me is storage. 16 Gb isn't sufficient.
Manually flashing custom Oreo ROM eventually on Moto X 2015 would be something I expect to do later next year... if I decide to buy it.
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Unlocking the bootloader and flashing AICP nougat 7.1.2 was a piece of cake on my MXP, it supports unlocking the bootloader out of the box.

dego_ said:
Guys, I'm considering buying this phone after almost 2 years with Mot X 2014. My question is "how xda friendly is Moto X 2015?" Unlocking bootloader and flashing ROMs on Moto X 2014 was piece of a cake.
I'm on custom Android 7 based ROM now, performance is great and the only issue for me is storage. 16 Gb isn't sufficient.
Manually flashing custom Oreo ROM eventually on Moto X 2015 would be something I expect to do later next year... if I decide to buy it.
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Honestly... Don't bother with a 2 year old device. If you like Moto, go Moto G5 Plus or G5S Plus, 3-4 times the battery life, equal performance, support for probably the next 18 months or so, etc. Or if your budget allows, go with something better, there are lots of options.
I would not buy another Pure, even if I could get a new one for under $100.

sk8223 said:
Noooo don't do it! D: What's your budget? There are better phones with better specs out there.
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Yes, it's all about budget. I can't see right now things I need in a phone for 200 euro:
- nearly stock android
- amoled screen
- SD card support
- and I hate what Lenovo creates now under Moto logo.
Looks like I will need to resign myself to some the points above
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Guys, thanks for the comments!

dego_ said:
Yes, it's all about budget. I can't see right now things I need in a phone for 200 euro:
- nearly stock android
- amoled screen
- SD card support
- and I hate what Lenovo creates now under Moto logo.
Looks like I will need to resign myself to some the points above
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Well there's the Lenovo P2. LOL But it's hard to find phones with AMOLED screens at that price point. I was gonna say just go with the Mi A1 (LCD) when it comes down in price later this year because it's the best stock Android bargain you'll find. Why do you want OLED so bad anyway? The Moto X Style isn't OLED, but it's screen and colours are highly saturated, even for me. I think this is something most IPS panels can accomplish with the right settings. I have to say, though, the Moto's screen is really good for an IPS panel.

sk8223 said:
Well there's the Lenovo P2. LOL But it's hard to find phones with AMOLED screens at that price point. I was gonna say just go with the Mi A1 (LCD) when it comes down in price later this year because it's the best stock Android bargain you'll find. Why do you want OLED so bad anyway? The Moto X Style isn't OLED, but it's screen and colours are highly saturated, even for me. I think this is something most IPS panels can accomplish with the right settings. I have to say, though, the Moto's screen is really good for an IPS panel.
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I was actually considering Mi A1 as a great option.
I love how OLED works with ambient display on my device. Experience of receiving notifications and unlocking the screen is addictive. When I see how my wife clicks power button each time on her Huawei P9, it looks like something from the past century