I've had the great misfortune of bricking my phone within the first few hours of owning it. I should have known something was up, it wouldn't reboot when I changed the language to English, and I'd have to hard reset it (delete everything) and then let it load in Chinese again. Well, in an attempt to fix what I thought was a rom issue, I went through the song and dance of trying to root my phone.
I'm still not fully clear on how to do it, as it seems there's more to it than just what the tutorials say.
Anyway, like the title of this thread says, there's a pretty good way to figure out if your phone is really bricked, no need to ask or wonder anymore.
If your phone only boots to the htc magic screen (and then stops), and is unable to load bootloader, fastboot, usb connections, or anything else, it's bricked. 100%. You have to take it back. Don't bother searching the forums for the answer, I've wasted hours going through every related thread and trying every possible solution. Without the ability to access the fastboot screen, you're out of possibilities. Untill someone comes out with an unbricker which goes deeper than fastboot, there is absolutely no way to fix it.
A semi brick is much better on the other hand. There are plenty of ways to fix your phone, provided you're only semi bricked. I would define semi bricked as being able to enter fastboot, but being unable to boot the phone as normal. This can happen with a bad flash, or a mis step during a tutorial. I'm not exactly sure how easy it is to change a semi brick to a full brick, but my full bricking happened after semi bricking it while loading a new rom on it.
So. to summarize, if your phone WON'T go into the boot menu by pressing vol-down+power, you're in need of a new phone.
If you can still get into the boot menu, and access your phone through usb, you're ok, just get help (via a tutorial) before going any further, unless you're completely certain of what to do next.
Tis a shame to send a device, which is physically undamaged, to the digital graveyard. But such is life.
Caid.
444.
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on a side note, before my phone reset itself into it's endless loop of unloading, I noticed the screen flash an image of a box with what looked like a red arrow coming out of it. It was right in the center of the screen. This was in the recovery-RAv1.0H.img menu. What's that all about?
Did you try other key combinations such as Home+Power, or Back+Power?
I'm sorry but I think you're misunderstanding it all a little bit...
Caid444 said:
I've had the great misfortune of bricking my phone within the first few hours of owning it. I should have known something was up, it wouldn't reboot when I changed the language to English, and I'd have to hard reset it (delete everything) and then let it load in Chinese again. Well, in an attempt to fix what I thought was a rom issue, I went through the song and dance of trying to root my phone.
I'm still not fully clear on how to do it, as it seems there's more to it than just what the tutorials say.
Anyway, like the title of this thread says, there's a pretty good way to figure out if your phone is really bricked, no need to ask or wonder anymore.
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It's easy if you follow the guides... I did it in two different phones with no problem at all in any of them... Anyway, let's stay on topìc
Caid444 said:
If your phone only boots to the htc magic screen (and then stops), and is unable to load bootloader, fastboot, usb connections, or anything else, it's bricked. 100%. You have to take it back. Don't bother searching the forums for the answer, I've wasted hours going through every related thread and trying every possible solution. Without the ability to access the fastboot screen, you're out of possibilities. Untill someone comes out with an unbricker which goes deeper than fastboot, there is absolutely no way to fix it.
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Wrong. If your phone boots to the HTC Magic screen, the bootloader is doing it's job. The bootloader just takes you there. The linux kernel and ramdisk takes you to the boot animation, and there is where android really starts.
If your phone shows the first htc logo, or the Vodafone branded screen, you can start in bootloader mode. To make that you just have to remove the battery, put it back, and press and hold BACK + END KEY. From that, you can fastboot.
Also, and unless you destroyed the recovery partition, you can also boot in recovery mode, by pressing END KEY while holding HOME (no need to keep them both hold, just home button)
Caid444 said:
A semi brick is much better on the other hand. There are plenty of ways to fix your phone, provided you're only semi bricked. I would define semi bricked as being able to enter fastboot, but being unable to boot the phone as normal. This can happen with a bad flash, or a mis step during a tutorial. I'm not exactly sure how easy it is to change a semi brick to a full brick, but my full bricking happened after semi bricking it while loading a new rom on it.
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I would call a semi brick this:
Your phone goes into an endless loop while booting.
Your phone gets stucked on the first boot logo.
You can't get access to the recovery partition.
Your phone boots all the way but then gets stucked.
Your phone gone bad during a software update.
That, all, can be solved by reflashing the affected region. There are tutorials for everything but if you need I can write some hints on each case (I suffered them all ).
Caid444 said:
So. to summarize, if your phone WON'T go into the boot menu by pressing vol-down+power, you're in need of a new phone.
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Actually, VOLDOWN+POWER starts in Hboot mode. From there you can go back to fastboot mode, but hboot is used to make a software upgrade using complete images or running htc diagnostic images (SAPPDIAG.IMG, SAPP*.IMG /NBH).
Caid444 said:
If you can still get into the boot menu, and access your phone through usb, you're ok, just get help (via a tutorial) before going any further, unless you're completely certain of what to do next.
Tis a shame to send a device, which is physically undamaged, to the digital graveyard. But such is life.
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If you can't get USB working on fastboot mode, or on recovery mode, your phone has probably a hardware fault. It happened with some of the first revisions of the Vodafone branded magic, don't know about htc branded ones though..
NOTE: Not talking about missing drivers, if you don't have drivers, that's another problem, but the computer should at least detect the device. Also, if your phone is off, and you connect the charger (or usb) and the orange led lights up, the bootloader should be ok.
Caid444 said:
on a side note, before my phone reset itself into it's endless loop of unloading, I noticed the screen flash an image of a box with what looked like a red arrow coming out of it. It was right in the center of the screen. This was in the recovery-RAv1.0H.img menu. What's that all about?
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That's the recovery mode. With that you can unbrick your phone
Also, as another hint, if you're new to linux OSes, you might want to take a look at some manual on terminal commands. If your main software is bricked, it's possible that your SDCard doesn't get mounted on recovery mode, depending on wich recovery image you're running. Provided you have an update.zip on the sdcard you need to run, you might have to mount it manually.
To do that, you have to start the phone in recovery mode, and run an "adb shell" on the PC.
When you have a shell opened, you'll have to mount the sdcard manually:
mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard
Then, on the phone you can use the option to run sdcard update.zip to restart the software upgrade procedure.
Regards!
Before I reply, I'd just like to say thank you very much for your extremely in depth reply.
biktor_gj said:
I'm sorry but I think you're misunderstanding it all a little bit...
It's easy if you follow the guides... I did it in two different phones with no problem at all in any of them... Anyway, let's stay on topìc
Wrong. If your phone boots to the HTC Magic screen, the bootloader is doing it's job. The bootloader just takes you there. The linux kernel and ramdisk takes you to the boot animation, and there is where android really starts.
If your phone shows the first htc logo, or the Vodafone branded screen, you can start in bootloader mode. To make that you just have to remove the battery, put it back, and press and hold BACK + END KEY. From that, you can fastboot.
Also, and unless you destroyed the recovery partition, you can also boot in recovery mode, by pressing END KEY while holding HOME (no need to keep them both hold, just home button)
I would call a semi brick this:
Your phone goes into an endless loop while booting.
Your phone gets stucked on the first boot logo.
You can't get access to the recovery partition.
Your phone boots all the way but then gets stucked.
Your phone gone bad during a software update.
That, all, can be solved by reflashing the affected region. There are tutorials for everything but if you need I can write some hints on each case (I suffered them all ).
Actually, VOLDOWN+POWER starts in Hboot mode. From there you can go back to fastboot mode, but hboot is used to make a software upgrade using complete images or running htc diagnostic images (SAPPDIAG.IMG, SAPP*.IMG /NBH).
If you can't get USB working on fastboot mode, or on recovery mode, your phone has probably a hardware fault. It happened with some of the first revisions of the Vodafone branded magic, don't know about htc branded ones though..
NOTE: Not talking about missing drivers, if you don't have drivers, that's another problem, but the computer should at least detect the device. Also, if your phone is off, and you connect the charger (or usb) and the orange led lights up, the bootloader should be ok.
That's the recovery mode. With that you can unbrick your phone
Also, as another hint, if you're new to linux OSes, you might want to take a look at some manual on terminal commands. If your main software is bricked, it's possible that your SDCard doesn't get mounted on recovery mode, depending on wich recovery image you're running. Provided you have an update.zip on the sdcard you need to run, you might have to mount it manually.
To do that, you have to start the phone in recovery mode, and run an "adb shell" on the PC.
When you have a shell opened, you'll have to mount the sdcard manually:
mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard
Then, on the phone you can use the option to run sdcard update.zip to restart the software upgrade procedure.
Regards!
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To the first answer.
It's not THAT easy, the guides are kinda (you should already know what you're doing at this point) in nature. It's confusing for newcomers, as we've no idea what to expect, that and there are a multitude of variations. More specification as to which guide works with which model, and which updates would be nice.
As for the second part, I could not get the phone working with any button variation pressed. I'm sorry I was not more clear in my description, to begin with. I could press (and hold) any button (or buttons) + power (end key) and the phone would just vibrate (briefly) and then display the original screen "htc magic"(endlessly). The orange light does come on when plugged into the usb or computer, but only while it is off, as soon as the device turns on, the light turns off.
Another thing of note is that, after bricking it, I had to remove the battery to turn it off (every time if it was on), and if I put the battery back in while it's plugged into the usb port of the computer, the phone would turn back on without pressing any buttons. It's also completely unresponsive or detectable by my computer after bricking it. The only other thing I can get it to do is make the orange light blue by holding the action button and turning on the device. That way the light on top of the device is blue when it turns on. Still unresponsive at that point.
This is my first android device, but not my first htc device (I've had MANY MANY different ones.) so I'm a bit familiar with trying different combinations to get a response.
I am not the first person who's had this happen, unfortunately. There have been a couple others, who've described the exact same encounter. Perhaps it's a mistake that I made, and perhaps they also made it themselves. I would like to figure out how it's happening, though, and perhaps write a tutorial for people like us unlucky few.
Again, a really big thanks. I've sent my phone back and am getting a new one soon. I much appreciate your reply, however, as it's probably the most understanding and considerate reply I've seen on these forums.
Cheers.
Caid.
444
One more quick question out of curiosity, when you press and hold back and press end to turn on the device (it still goes to the htc magic screen) SHOULD it go to a different screen, other than the "htc magic" screen? Or is that a process that runs without some sort of visual notification on the device itself?
The usb was completely unresponsive after this happened, but in the event that bootloader may have been running, (only possible if it runs without any visual notification on the device itself), I'll go pick up the device and see if my usb drivers on my computer just became unresponsive after being accessed too many times. Sometimes windows does that, right? Perhaps a reboot would have allowed fastboot and the drivers to connect again, if the device was trying to talk to the computer, but I just didn't know on account of not having any notification.
So, again, should pressing back and power bring me to a different screen? or would it also look like it was hanging on htc magic screen?
Caid.
444
p.s. Sorry for the confusing wording, I'm tired and trying very hard to be as specific as possible.
back+end/power should lead you to the fastboot screen right after it shows the HTC Magic screen or whatever splash screen you have installed.
Home+end/power should lead you to the recovery screen.
ok, it was bricked. Thanks for the answer.
Caid.
444
Caid444 said:
Before I reply, I'd just like to say thank you very much for your extremely in depth reply.
To the first answer.
It's not THAT easy, the guides are kinda (you should already know what you're doing at this point) in nature. It's confusing for newcomers, as we've no idea what to expect, that and there are a multitude of variations. More specification as to which guide works with which model, and which updates would be nice.
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No problem, we all should be here to learn, and to help (except for the trolls)
This is the guide I followed for both Vodafone branded Magics: http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
Maybe not for now, but for the next magic you get it may come handy
Caid444 said:
As for the second part, I could not get the phone working with any button variation pressed. I'm sorry I was not more clear in my description, to begin with. I could press (and hold) any button (or buttons) + power (end key) and the phone would just vibrate (briefly) and then display the original screen "htc magic"(endlessly). The orange light does come on when plugged into the usb or computer, but only while it is off, as soon as the device turns on, the light turns off.
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When the phone is off with the charger connected and you press the power button, the light goes off, as for the others, you really should be able to enter the SPL if it could the magic bootlogo and vibrated upon boot...
Maybe you didn't try enough or maybe your bootloader behaved differently than mine... I should be more clear anyway, to get to the bootloader, the best way to make it go to the bootloader is press and hold back key, then while holding it, hold the power button too. It should take about a second or two before showing the three skater droids.
Caid444 said:
Another thing of note is that, after bricking it, I had to remove the battery to turn it off (every time if it was on), and if I put the battery back in while it's plugged into the usb port of the computer, the phone would turn back on without pressing any buttons. It's also completely unresponsive or detectable by my computer after bricking it. The only other thing I can get it to do is make the orange light blue by holding the action button and turning on the device. That way the light on top of the device is blue when it turns on. Still unresponsive at that point.
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When you put the battery while USB or charger is connected, the phone boots up, that's the normal behaviour. About the blue led, that's the Radio bootloader. That's quite dangerous to play with, but it gives a lot of other functions. Another sign that your phone wasn't completely dead Even if you wipe the SPL (the three skater droids), you may be able to boot into the Radio bootloader and write or boot another one to fix it. But that's waaaay harder
Caid444 said:
This is my first android device, but not my first htc device (I've had MANY MANY different ones.) so I'm a bit familiar with trying different combinations to get a response.
I am not the first person who's had this happen, unfortunately. There have been a couple others, who've described the exact same encounter. Perhaps it's a mistake that I made, and perhaps they also made it themselves. I would like to figure out how it's happening, though, and perhaps write a tutorial for people like us unlucky few.
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I guess the first advice when you start tricking with a phone is be careful with what you're doing. That's the good thing of fastboot.
When booting on fastboot mode, you can pick, for example a recovery image, and boot it without overwriting the original rom:
Code:
fastboot boot [recovery_image]
Then, when you see it's working, you can flash it:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery [recovery_image]
fastboot flash boot [boot_image]
fastboot flash system [system_image]
fastboot flash data [data_image]
You can't do that with the system.img since it's too big, but you can do it also with a boot.img
About the key combinations on the phone, it goes like this:
Code:
BACK + END KEY -> Fastboot mode (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
VOLDOWN + END KEY -> Hboot mode (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
ACTION (trackball center) + END KEY -> Radio Bootloader (you shouldn't see the boot logo)
HOME + END KEY -> Recovery mode (you should see the boot logo, then get the recovery menu)
SEND + MENU + END -> Reboot the phone (while the phone is on)
Maybe there are more (android has kind of 'safe mode' but I don't know it it goes there automatically if there's a problem or if it has to be called manually)
Anyway, I hope these things will be useful for the next phone, and for anybody who's a bit lost on this
Regards!
Let us know where you live , so maybe one can help you , I live in Sweden and will be glad to help you if you are near ;-)
Hey! Thanks again for all the help, and the offer to come help. Unfortunately, I'm in China. Coming here from Sweden (although it's a single large landmass) would take quite a bit of time
I appreciate all the support, though. Very cool community we're building here for the magic.
Caid.
444
htc semi-brick?
Hi to all. I'm in the same condition described in this tread; after installing SPL i get the htc block in Vodafone brand red screen.
None keys combination bring me to the boot menù. Only Action(trackball) + power have effect, but with a black screen...
Any suggest?
What do you do if you can boot into fastboot but can't flash anything because absolutely everything gives the error "FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)"?
I have a card reader and have tried just about every sappimg.zip, every boot.img, every recovery.img i could find. I can't even boot a recovery img because the screen just hangs at the HTC Magic logo.
I don't know what kind of warranty i have on this thing, but i might take it in tomorrow and see if i can get it replaced. I've only had it for just under two weeks.
Newbie need help
ok so i can still go to recovery mode but everytime i reboot my phone the mytouch 3g logo never goes away im new to Android but not htc can somebody plz help me out.
gruppler said:
What do you do if you can boot into fastboot but can't flash anything because absolutely everything gives the error "FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)"?
I have a card reader and have tried just about every sappimg.zip, every boot.img, every recovery.img i could find. I can't even boot a recovery img because the screen just hangs at the HTC Magic logo.
I don't know what kind of warranty i have on this thing, but i might take it in tomorrow and see if i can get it replaced. I've only had it for just under two weeks.
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Instead of flashing something, you boot a recovery image, and then, from there, you flash whatever you need (using adb & flash_image for example)
PS: Be a little patient, if fastboot is letting you boot a recovery image, the recovery needs to boot, and that takes a little while, and while it's booting, you see the bootlogo until the menu appears. Also, you can try running adb shell after boot process started to try to get an error message (or at least to know if the thing is booting in some way)
I couldn't boot any recovery images. I had tried a few different Hero ROMs but decided i wanted to use Cupcake again because i have a 32B board and it just doesn't have enough RAM, though Swapper makes it usable at least. I don't know what exactly i did, but i've learned a lot from my mistakes. Everything i tried failed the signature check because the hboot version didn't match. If i could just flash the 1.33.2005 hboot again, i would have been in business, but no matter which recovery image i tried, it just sat there doing nothing. And believe me, i waited.
Fortunately, T-Mobile gave me a new device after i took it in and played dumb. And I just rooted it =]
Caid444 said:
ok, it was bricked. Thanks for the answer.
Caid.
444
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Why not flashing it with an RUU from HTC. Not sure that would work but it is worth trying.
Hi there, people!
First of all, thanks because while I was reading ur posts I realized that my phone had been bricked, 100 %
I tried official ROM upgrade to Android 1.6 using the folowing steps
1. Copied radio zip to my sd card by renaming it in update.zip
2. Recovery screen was started by pressing HOME+END key
3.Applied update.zip, process was going on: Opening package, verifing package, installing radio...and message about success was shown and phone restarted
4. Phone stucked on HTC Magic logo screen...15 minutes
5. I removed a battery, put it back and tried to reach recovery or boot mode again
6.Unsuccessfully! Phone vibrates and turns on...but always stucks on the HTC Magic screen
7. USB does not recognize my phone is connected (I tried any adb and fastboot commands)
8. So, I just pray to give me a new phone if my warranty will be accepted
iivanovic said:
Hi there, people!
First of all, thanks because while I was reading ur posts I realized that my phone had been bricked, 100 %
I tried official ROM upgrade to Android 1.6 using the folowing steps
1. Copied radio zip to my sd card by renaming it in update.zip
2. Recovery screen was started by pressing HOME+END key
3.Applied update.zip, process was going on: Opening package, verifing package, installing radio...and message about success was shown and phone restarted
4. Phone stucked on HTC Magic logo screen...15 minutes
5. I removed a battery, put it back and tried to reach recovery or boot mode again
6.Unsuccessfully! Phone vibrates and turns on...but always stucks on the HTC Magic screen
7. USB does not recognize my phone is connected (I tried any adb and fastboot commands)
8. So, I just pray to give me a new phone if my warranty will be accepted
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I have the same problem. I get up hboot and fast boot menus can not get it in recovery. try to add in sappimg but no luck
I'm having the exact same problem...
Any solution yet?
Hello! I can assure you that your phone is not fully bricked! Awhile ago I flashed a new radio only to discover that I hadn't done my research and was a complete and total idiot. I flashed the 1.76.xxxx on a 32B. It didn't like it. I got a quick HTC logo that disappeared then the phone never responded again. When I say never responded it was dead. no combination of buttons would get any response. If you can get into fastboot you have options. All that's necessary is to make sure you have the appropriate sappimg file. Try the Unlockr's gold card method file. He has a .zip file that may work for you. Just make sure that you find an image that is compatible with your board (32A or 32B). Hope this helps!
Dear forum,
I kind of hesitated to start a thread for my problem, but after a long time I still haven't found a solution. I have contacted HTC (no answer yet), but hope to resolve my problem in meanwhile instead of waiting 1 month+ for a replacement.
I got the -by now familiar- freeze, and after rebooting it would go beyond the HTC logo, then stay stuck in a backlit black screen mode. Tried removing the battery, sim card, sd card etc. Then decided to boot into recovery (vol down + power) which worked, but any option would freeze the phone, like factory reset which I tried first.
Right now, the phone already freezes at the carrier logo, and I can't even get into recovery again (vol down + power). The phone won't respond to the key presses, and eventially boot and freeze at the carrier logo. The weird thing is that before, after a lot of trying and re-inserting the battery, it would eventually boot and work just fine for about 1 in 10 tries.
Does anyone have any ideas what I could try? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
edit: Okay, after a while I finally managed to get into HBoot again! Now what should I do to get my phone resetted/fixed? I guess it's not possible for me to flash another ROM or something as i'm not rooted. Details shown are: S-OFF, HBOOT 98.0002
can you get into recovery from bootloader?
Seems like I now consistently can boot into HBOOT. When I choose recovery, it will reboot, show the carrier logo, show the green logo with circular arrows, and then switch to the phone logo with a red exclamation mark for two seconds. Then, it shuts off. Also, when I tried that just now, it buzzed for like 6 times very fast after turning off.
On the second try, exactly the same happened: red exclamation mark, screen off, +- 6 fast buzzes.
After doing that, it doesn't respond to vol down+power or power at all. After reinserting the battery, I can get back into HBOOT
edit: it didn't want to boot into HBOOT, but now it does again. Anyhow, chosing recovery is still green logo, red logo, screen off and some buzzes. The phone doesn't show up in "adb devices" neither.
Whatever you are going to do; do not root your device as it will void your warrenty.
Is there anything else i can try doing? The situation so far:
-normal boot just stays stuck into carrier logo
-hboot->recovery gives a reboot, green logo, switch to red logo, screen off and +- 6 fast buzzes, then nothing. Needs battery reinsertion to be able to respond to vol down + power again
-hboot->factory reset just freezes on the same screen, no response, needs battery removal
-noshow in adb devices (update: show in fastboot!)
Another update: after messing arround with the drivers which didn't seem properly installed, I know have my device showing up in "fastboot devices".
Please, I feel like I'm so close to fixing this. What could I do next? Fastboot in some different recovery with more options or something? Anyone?
Could I simply run the RUU for my 3UK branded phone now?? If I get the RUU from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506, it seems that the RUU is "signed", which would result in S-ON? While right now my phone is S-OFF?
edit: So, I ran the proper RUU, it will find my device, propose me to downgrade from 1.47 something to 1.37 or so. Click next. Then it stays on the "rebooting the bootloader" phase indefinitely
maxxur said:
Another update: after messing arround with the drivers which didn't seem properly installed, I know have my device showing up in "fastboot devices".
Please, I feel like I'm so close to fixing this. What could I do next? Fastboot in some different recovery with more options or something? Anyone?
Could I simply run the RUU for my 3UK branded phone now?? If I get the RUU from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506, it seems that the RUU is "signed", which would result in S-ON? While right now my phone is S-OFF?
edit: So, I ran the proper RUU, it will find my device, propose me to downgrade from 1.47 something to 1.37 or so. Click next. Then it stays on the "rebooting the bootloader" phase indefinitely
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Slow down maxxur, wait for this quesstion to be out there for long enough for someone to answer it.
Dont go on a battery pulling spree, coz that is the first and most tempting response on a frozen phone. But i hope you know what that can do to this phone...
Give the xda community some time to figure this out. Hold your ground till then. Need to go in to the theatre now. Will get back in the evening and try to figure this out.
Try running the RUU while in the fastboot menu (usb mode). Also my suggestion is not to make the process more complicated by downgrading - just reflash 1.47...
Thanks for the response guys
The RUU I found was 1.37. Could you point me to a 1.47 RUU for the 3UK network?
Also, running that RUU when in Fastboot USB mode is what I tried. The info on the RUU shows that it hangs indefinitely at "rebooting bootloader". That is expected, as when I try to manually reboot bootloader in my fastboot menu, my phone will also freeze.
I'm wondering if running a different recovery image could be of any help? Last night I tried running CWM recovery to see my options, by entering "fastboot boot recovery.img" but i'd get a "remote: not allow" error.
Have not noticed that you are not rooted!
Why don't you try the revolutionary tool? If you have luck it will restore your bootloader if it is broken (keep in mind that is not the best option because it will break you warranty). Then you will just need to flash an eng hboot and run the RUU, or better try some custom ROM
But in my opinion the best option for you is to go for a replacement rather to try yourself, since you dont have any custom software on it it has to be covered by your warranty (probably it is a faulty device to go like this from nothing).
Thanks for the suggestion. Are there any other safer options for me?
Could I try extracting the rom.zip from the RUU and manually put it on the SD card, then try to flash it in CWM recovery? Since "fastboot boot recovery" doesn't work though, could I try "fastboot flash recovery" to get CWM on there? Atm the "stock recovery" seems to be dead anyway, as when I choose it in HBOOT, the phone simply freezes.
maxxur said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Are there any other safer options for me?
Could I try extracting the rom.zip from the RUU and manually put it on the SD card, then try to flash it in CWM recovery? Since "fastboot boot recovery" doesn't work though, could I try "fastboot flash recovery" to get CWM on there? Atm the "stock recovery" seems to be dead anyway, as when I choose it in HBOOT, the phone simply freezes.
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Of course you can if you are eager to try this. When you run the RUU, even when there is no phone connected there is a folder in your C: drive created (I assume that you are using Windows). Open your Windows Explorer and search for the rom.zip. When you have it copy it somewhere and close the RUU screen. Then if you open the RUU all the *.img files are there. You can try flashing the stock recovery or hboot or whatewer using the fastboot command. But I have to say again the best option for you is to bring the phone for a repair before you end up with something irreversible and void your warranty.
Thanks for keeping me sane on what to do with my problem Mentally, I came to the point where I'd go flash CWM recovery on my phone and try to flash that RUU rom from there, but you helped me get around that thought and now I made arrangements for HTC to come and pick it up. I'll keep you guys posted!
PS: you've got to love our desire s community, it's the best.
Cheered too early
Now HTC suddenly responds that while entering my phone in their warranty service thingy and the phone seemed to be 3G UK branded, they told me they "can't" do repairs for those.
Seriously, HTC is trying to troll me saying the inner hardware could differ between a UK and a Belgian Desire S?? Could this be true in any way?? :/
Maybe some parts are cheaper but with the same parameters...but I thought that when you have a branded phone you should seek your warrancy support from the carrier's office?!?
Sent from my HTC Desire S
Options for solution!
Option 1: Copy rom.zip (from RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed) to your sd rename it to PG88IMG.zip and let m boot into hboot.
If option 1 is not ok try option 2.
Option 2: Boot in to fastboot connect it to your computer and on your computer open dos/terminal run fastboot oem rebootRUU then after that run ruu RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.
If option 2 not OK then there is option 3.
Option 3: Boot in to fastboot connect it to your computer and on your computer open dos/terminal run fastboot oem rebootRUU after that run in dos/terminal fastboot flash zip rom.zip (extracted from RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed)
Let me know if one of these option worked for you if not I can help you with reflashing your hboot again.
NikMel,
Thank you so much for the tips. Currently I'm trying the first HBOOT + .ZIP method. It detected it, asked me to update and is now showing a pink "Updating" sign. How long should this normally take? I have a strong feeling it simply froze again, and it really turns out to be a hardware problem.
Is that updating next to radio?
If yes it will take realy long so wait!!
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I had the hTC EVO Design 4G as pretty much my first Smart Android. (Im not including the LG optimus M). The Switched to the Galaxy note & S3 for a while NOw Im using the HTC one S. I normally never have these problems or ever post on the forums. But Im desperate for fast help. I know how to do everything on both the htc evo 4g and design.
but The Ville is diff. without the removable battery
im blabbering....
let me try to STEPbySTEP explain my steps up to my not working Device.
!. I tried to Flash the Energy_9.07.2012.OneS.zip rom through TWRP at first. (thats was the suggesttion in the thread. So that the recovery would Flash the correct Kernel. But upon reboot. I discovered that contrary to the devs suggestion the WiFi still didnt work. So I flashed CWM through ROM manager. reboot into recovery flash wiped cache/ factory reset. But I dont think I wiped system, data, or anything not in the main Menu, Energy_9.07.2012.OneS.zip and I reboot. Upon reboot the HTC screen had the warning for use in htc do not distribute...then the bootanimation popped up and finally the booted up fine. Wifi was working this time. But now my network wasnt right. I didnt give the rom time to settle in though. I panic and open CMD and ran adb reboot fastboot.
Waited waited
now the boot loader was up. I had to unplug my deviice for the screen to show fastboot usb.
then this is where I think I ****ed up my phone
(I extracted the boot.img from the Energy_9.07.2012.OneS.zip and placed it in my android folder on C I also adb pulled my twrp recovery to
C:\android and renamed to recovery,img I wanted TWRP back I hate how CWM automaticaly boots when you plug it in tp charge from dead)
Now I had in my C:\Android\boot.img and \recovery.img.
I ran the command (im not sure if I ran boot or recovery first)Also my phone was anywhere near a full battery cloase to dead but my CMD window showed complete.
C:\Windows\system32>fastboot flash boot C:\android\boot.img
C:\Windows\system32>fastboot flash recovery C:\android\recovery.img
Now my phone is plugged into my Lenovo Thinkpad t410 with Win7 Pro OEM The red light to the top right isnt blinking like the battery to low to power on notification. Its steady. but when I hold down to turn on either the lights for the capacitie buttons flash untill I let go of the button or I do a combo of plugging in and out the usb and holding the power and volume bottons not sure Which order. PLEASE HELP! iM EXPECTING A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB INTERVIEW RESULTS.
In my time in CMD this error did pop up a few times. But I open HTC sync let it load. and then it would work.
C:\Windows\system32>adb reboot device
adb server is out of date. killing...
ADB server didn't ACK
* failed to start daemon *
error:
Would A ruu fix this????? Although I haven't once successively used one.
COMMENT, PM, IM, ME I DON'T CARE JUST PLEASE HELP ME AN MY POOR [PHONE] GUARANTEED THANKS BUTTON!!!!!!! USAGE AS FOR HELPING.
why would you flash something made for HTC ONE S if you have HTC EVO
especially when you're just starting to learn about
sorry, but I would guess that you're chance is to find somewhere a ruu for your model
ultimul said:
why would you flash something made for HTC ONE S if you have HTC EVO
especially when you're just starting to learn about
sorry, but I would guess that you're chance is to find somewhere a ruu for your model
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I have the HTC One S Ville
I was stating how I use to have the evo
gisaac2157 said:
I had the hTC EVO Design 4G as pretty much my first Smart Android. (Im not including the LG optimus M). There is no development forum for that devices in XDA so I used SDX-DEV I actually started learning how to kang my own roms.
im blabbering....
let me try to STEPbySTEP explain my steps up to my not working Device.
!. I tried to Flash the Energy_9.07.2012.OneS.zip rom through TWRP at first. (thats was the suggesttion in the thread. So that the recovery would Flash the correct Kernel. But upon reboot. I discovered that contrary to the devs suggestion the WiFi still didnt work. So I flashed CWM through ROM manager. reboot into recovery flash wiped cache/ factory reset. But I dont think I wiped system, data, or anything not in the main Menu, Energy_9.07.2012.OneS.zip and I reboot. Upon reboot the HTC screen had the warning for use in htc do not distribute...then the bootanimation popped up and finally the booted up fine. Wifi was working this time. But now my network wasnt right. I didnt give the rom time to settle in though. I panic and open CMD and ran adb reboot fastboot.
Waited waited
now the boot loader was up. I had to unplug my deviice for the screen to show fastboot usb.
then this is where I think I ****ed up my phone
(I extracted the boot.img from the Energy_9.07.2012.OneS.zip and placed it in my android folder on C I also adb pulled my twrp recovery to
C:\android and renamed to recovery,img I wanted TWRP back I hate how CWM automaticaly boots when you plug it in tp charge from dead)
Now I had in my C:\Android\boot.img and \recovery.img.
I ran the command (im not sure if I ran boot or recovery first)Also my phone was anywhere near a full battery cloase to dead but my CMD window showed complete.
C:\Windows\system32>fastboot flash boot C:\android\boot.img
C:\Windows\system32>fastboot flash recovery C:\android\recovery.img
Now my phone is plugged into my Lenovo Thinkpad t410 with Win7 Pro OEM The red light to the top right isnt blinking like the battery to low to power on notification. Its steady. but when I hold down to turn on either the lights for the capacitie buttons flash untill I let go of the button or I do a combo of plugging in and out the usb and holding the power and volume bottons not sure Which order. PLEASE HELP! iM EXPECTING A PHONE CALL ABOUT A JOB INTERVIEW RESULTS.
In my time in CMD this error did pop up a few times. But I open HTC sync let it load. and then it would work.
C:\Windows\system32>adb reboot device
adb server is out of date. killing...
ADB server didn't ACK
* failed to start daemon *
error:
Would A ruu fix this????? Although I haven't once successively used one.
COMMENT, PM, IM, ME I DON'T CARE JUST PLEASE HELP ME AN MY POOR [PHONE] GUARANTEED THANKS BUTTON!!!!!!! USAGE AS FOR HELPING.
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If you hold down the power button long enough the leds should stop flashing. You should try that and then once it goes off, hold down the volume down and the power button.
That should get you back into bootloader. From there you may want to try flashing a custom kernel (the SENSE version of Fusion, for example).
An RUU could help, but you would need to relock your bootloader in order to flash it. You would need to be able to get to your bootloader screen. RUUs are EXE files and are pretty self explanatory when you run them and have your phone connected. See http://www.4shared.com/folder/jKN2qjTl/HTC_Ville_RUU_Collection.html for RUUs. There is also a thread on RUUs in the development thread. Read that too.
But first things first, you need to be able to access your bootloader! Keep fiddling with your power button and volume down button.
AKToronto
gisaac2157 said:
I have the HTC One S Ville
I was stating how I use to have the evo
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can you reboot into recovery/fastboot? press the power button for 5-7 seconds until the keys start blinking;
the phone should reset after it
some RUU, you can find here:
http://androidforums.com/one-s-all-things-root/560329-ruu-download-mirrors.html
Thanks so much.
AKToronto said:
If you hold down the power button long enough the leds should stop flashing. You should try that and then once it goes off, hold down the volume down and the power button.
That should get you back into bootloader. From there you may want to try flashing a custom kernel (the SENSE version of Fusion, for example).
An RUU could help, but you would need to relock your bootloader in order to flash it. You would need to be able to get to your bootloader screen. RUUs are EXE files and are pretty self explanatory when you run them and have your phone connected. See <font color="red"> as a new member cant post links</font> for RUUs. There is also a thread on RUUs in the development thread. Read that too.
But first things first, you need to be able to access your bootloader! Keep fiddling with your power button and volume down button.
AKToronto
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I feel really stupid for not knowing THAT. Now whats up with the energy rom? the thread says stable. How am I suppose to flash it?