Hello everyone, I don't want to root my device just yet due to the fact that it's still under warranty... So since I only want to remove ads, can you tell me if there's a way to block ads on an unroot device, like pushing the file on adb shell or something like that ? I don't want to use adblock plus it simply doesn't work.
Thanks in advance !
leomon32 said:
Hello everyone, I don't want to root my device just yet due to the fact that it's still under warranty... So since I only want to remove ads, can you tell me if there's a way to block ads on an unroot device, like pushing the file on adb shell or something like that ? I don't want to use adblock plus it simply doesn't work.
Thanks in advance !
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There are only so many ways to replace a system (hosts in this case) file within Android and almost all of them require rooting the device or tripping Knox with TWRP. You might be able to do it with adb push/pull commands but that is quite an advanced technique. Even then, I've had it request root access in CM to run the adb commands on the system apps. In reality the easy ways to do it requires root and my advice would be to try using the adblock browser or another custom browser that blocks ads until you are ready to root it.
AlkaliV2 said:
There are only so many ways to replace a system (hosts in this case) file within Android and almost all of them require rooting the device or tripping Knox with TWRP. You might be able to do it with adb push/pull commands but that is quite an advanced technique. Even then, I've had it request root access in CM to run the adb commands on the system apps. In reality the easy ways to do it requires root and my advice would be to try using the adblock browser or another custom browser that blocks ads until you are ready to root it.
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Thanks, that's actually just what I thought. It's weird because you can change the density and the resolution of that tablet with the adb push on the fly without root or knox tripping but I guess the whole file is read only and that's why root is needed (the hosts).
There is a proxy ad blocker on market. Works just fine and does not require root . search market and you find a few.
use hosts without root
I know a simple way to use hosts without root:
enter playstore
search: "virtual hosts"
you will see a green icon of the apk
download it
open it and then you will see a big switch button.
click on it and then choose the host that you want to use
(if you want to make the host to be on startup, just click the plus icon in the corner and then you will see an android icon. just click on it).
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Or what is the exact mechanism behind this in Android? I have been using GNU/Linux for many years so I understand the original concept and would not want every app to have root privileges.
The Superuser app allows you to accept & deny all root apps. You can also choose to always allow certain apps, but you don't have to.
I don't quite understand this. Who gives the apps the privileges. I suppose the Superuser app is only the frontend for some system service. And does it work as a white list or as a black list. Meaning: Does every app get root priviliges by default on a rooted phone or do I have to manually give root privileges to desired apps but the rest doesn't even realize it's on a rooted phone.
By default, apps are denied root privileges. If I restore an app that runs as root in the background -along with its data - the app won't work until I launch it & grant it superuser permissions. Droidwall is a good example of this. Droidwall works by denying or allowing 3g and/or wifi access to apps based on your input. It does this by changing the iptables. If I flash a new ROM & restore with Titanium Backup, I usually forget that Droidwall isn't doing its job until I notice ads in an app that isn't supposed to connect. Once the app is launched & I choose to apply the rules, Superuser prompts me to allow the changes. If I do not make a choice within 10 seconds, SU automatically denies the root request.
In short, an app will never run as root (aside from superuser itself, if that counts) without you first allowing it. Also be aware that most everyday apps will never ask for root access as they don't need it to run. Only apps that are making changes to the system (reading or writing) will need root access. As far as accessing your contact data & other stuff you may worry about, any app can do that if it has permission (not root) to do so. When you first install an app, you will see a list of permissions - usually an app needs those permissions to run and there's nothing to worry about.
OK, thanks I understand it more now. What would happen if I didn't install Superuser. Is there a built in daemon for superuser privileges?
Don't fight the powers that be. Install superuser. You need it.
I'm pretty sure you'll get error messages from most root apps. I could be wrong, though. Next time I'm about to flash a new ROM, I'll remove Superuser after I do my backup, just because I'm curious. I'm pretty sure that Superuser or an alternative - if one exists - is necessary. I know the ability is there in the os, but I would think that it would need some kind of vehicle (such as an app) to relay the information. I certainly hope apps wouldn't automatically be granted root privileges, but I'm not sure. It's an interesting question, though.
Roms come pre-loaded with Superuser, and any auto-root method does as well. You would only be without it if you root manually, stay on stock, and choose not to push the app. Or, I guess, if you choose to remove it.
Hey guys,
This is the wrong place forum, but I like you guys, so I will ask you a question
Say there is an app that requires root (in this case Cisco AnyConnect rooted version), but I do not want to have root access enabled from within Android OS. Is there a way to install the app with automatic root access? E.g. by flashing it from within the recovery?
Thanks,
Su
Do it need root access or system permissions ?
If it needs root, you must have "su" in android OS.
If it needs system permisssions, you could push it in /system/app/ or /system/priv-app/ (more access than /system/app/)
Hmm, from the description, it seems like root access... ah well, from the CM11 SuperUser settings, seems like it is possible to automatically deny root access to all requests, and only allow selected apps.
Perhaps this is a better way to set up the device...
Sumanji said:
Hmm, from the description, it seems like root access... ah well, from the CM11 SuperUser settings, seems like it is possible to automatically deny root access to all requests, and only allow selected apps.
Perhaps this is a better way to set up the device...
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every app that wants SU permission should be prompting you the first time to allow or deny it.
if any app gets SU permission without you allowing it, something is wrong.
what i dont understand is, you said the phone is NOT rooted, then mentioned cm11. if you are running cm11, your phone is already rooted.
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Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56539897&postcount=9 for the Answer
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Hi all ,
I'm wanting to use NowTV (like SkyGo) on my OnePlus , however they are using a type of Root check that most root hiders cannot bypass.
Therefore I'm looking for a way to temp unroot and then root back again with ease.
just wondering if there are any tools or easy to follow guides?
thanks
Disable Superuser in SuperSU settings.
zoro25 said:
Hi all ,
I'm wanting to use NowTV (like SkyGo) on my OnePlus , however they are using a type of Root check that most root hiders cannot bypass.
Therefore I'm looking for a way to temp unroot and then root back again with ease.
just wondering if there are any tools or easy to follow guides?
thanks
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Or if you are on a Cm nightly you can turn them off in the developer option
Disabling super user doesn't work, their detection method is unknown and they check more than the su binary.
I might try the nightlies, however I need stability.
Thanks for the responses so far
Outside of the nightly wing if you want stability use the M releases, they are designed to be more stable than the nightly branch
zoro25 said:
Disabling super user doesn't work, their detection method is unknown and they check more than the su binary.
I might try the nightlies, however I need stability.
Thanks for the responses so far
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The problem isn't really the SuperSU as such, it's CM. They flag CM as a rooted ROM, it'll even happen if you're on stock un-rooted CM11S.
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I'm pretty sure that I saw an xposed module that could hide superuser completely. Might want to give that a try
skyguy126 said:
I'm pretty sure that I saw an xposed module that could hide superuser completely. Might want to give that a try
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As per my post right above yours, it isn't SU that's the problem, it's that the ROM is CM.
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Timmaaa is correct and that's the info I wanted, I had tried the xposed modules but none worked and now I know why.
I'll contact sky and see if I get anywhere
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So it seems that Timmaaa is NOT correct as there is NO CyanogenMod or any ROM check, it's all to do with the the name of your Root App
Short Version is unroot and uninstall SU app for this to work (removing SU Binary or removing Root alone is not enough)
So we need to have a new Root app with a new AppID and name , and also the SU binary to be identified as something else for this to possibly work.
I now have NOWTV working , and it's on an Unrooted One+One with no SU App installed after running full Unroot (however my SUPro app is still installed)
Note that SUPro does nothing really and just gives extra functionality when the main SU app is installed.
Thanks for everyone help and input on this.
So it seems that you would have to
1)Full UnRoot (Which also uninstalls the main SuperUser app)
2) Watch what ever you wanted to on NowTV or SkyGO
3)Go through the Rooting process again as if it were a new device. (which will again stop NOWTV/SkyGo) from working.
Do steps 1 and 2 again to watch.
This would have to be done everytime you want to watch NowTV
zoro25 said:
Timmaaa is correct and that's the info I wanted, I had tried the xposed modules but none worked and now I know why.
I'll contact sky and see if I get anywhere
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So it seems that Timmaaa is NOT correct as there is NO CyanogenMod or any ROM check, it's all to do with the the name of your Root App
Short Version is unroot and uninstall SU app for this to work (removing SU Binary or removing Root alone is not enough)
So we need to have a new Root app with a new AppID and name , and also the SU binary to be identified as something else for this to possibly work.
I now have NOWTV working , and it's on an Unrooted One+One with no SU App installed after running full Unroot (however my SUPro app is still installed)
Note that SUPro does nothing really and just gives extra functionality when the main SU app is installed.
Thanks for everyone help and input on this.
So it seems that you would have to
1)Full UnRoot (Which also uninstalls the main SuperUser app)
2) Watch what ever you wanted to on NowTV or SkyGO
3)Go through the Rooting process again as if it were a new device. (which will again stop NOWTV/SkyGo) from working.
Do steps 1 and 2 again to watch.
This would have to be done everytime you want to watch NowTV
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This is just a theory... may be wrong:
Can't you move the SuperSU app into /system/app instead of /data/app. Or does the NOWTV app have perms to check the integrity of /system also. Or can you change the app id of the SuperSU app with a simple decompile tool.
I did that while using cm11s. But still had problems trying to watch skygo. In the end I had alter my buildprop to a phone which supports skygo as at the time it didn't support oneplus one. Then full unroot etc to watch then root back to get root access again.
I want to have fb messenger in ultra power saving mode (UPSM). for that i need to use the UPSM Manager app which requires root. I really do not like to root, because more and more apps are blocking rooted devices (Barclays banking, android pay, pokemon go). So I am asking if there exists some methods for gaining temp root (e.g. with adb). so i can install and use upsm-m once and then reboot and root is gone. It is important that the flag is not flipping.
Thank you for all your help
Shiro
Nope, and even if you could, the app would fail as soon as root was removed
*Detection* said:
Nope, and even if you could, the app would fail as soon as root was removed
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I expected that, on my old htcs there were temp roots available.
But the failing of the app after removing root, is not a problem. The app is just a configfile creator. Since the config file has changed, the app is not needed anymore.
Hi, I use root in all my devices from a lot of time but now I'm 41yo and no more interested in this.
I use root "now only" for
1) call recording (BCR);
2) SwifthBackup;
3) Revanced.
So, call recorder seems to be installed also without root: just put apk in system app directory!
... but, how I can move an apk in system directory without root or twrp, and with locked bootloader?
SwifthBackup can work without root? I don't remember but I can search.
Revanced isn't a problem, I can use with microG.
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Any help about my doubts?
I want try also because VPN not work, and after a months of email with support "seems" can be related to unlocked/rooted device.
I want just try.
Ty.
Without root, Swift Backup can backup app APK files, but not the app data. It does allow you to grant adb permissions through Shizuku, but I never figured out what [if anything] that allows it to do. I wasn't able to backup app data with ADB privelages.
I don't know the answer to the Call Recording issue.
lupastro82 said:
Hi, I use root in all my devices from a lot of time but now I'm 41yo and no more interested in this.
I use root "now only" for
1) call recording (BCR);
2) SwifthBackup;
3) Revanced.
So, call recorder seems to be installed also without root: just put apk in system app directory!
... but, how I can move an apk in system directory without root or twrp, and with locked bootloader?
SwifthBackup can work without root? I don't remember but I can search.
Revanced isn't a problem, I can use with microG.
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Any help about my doubts?
I want try also because VPN not work, and after a months of email with support "seems" can be related to unlocked/rooted device.
I want just try.
Ty.
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I imagine that, once you move that .apk to the system app directory (while rooted), once you unroot, it should still stay there and probably be accessible; but I'm unsure whether successfully running it will be possible -- it depends on the call recording app and if the app requires root to run. If it doesn't and it simply needs root just to be inserted, then I imagine it would probably work if you unroot.
But I have never heard of this method of getting a mod or add-on to work by inserting it in the system app directory...it's fascinating...
Like you said, ReVanced doesn't necessarily need root to work; it just works better with it. Swift Backup will only in a basic way be able to back your device up without root access.
But if you are simply just trying to get a certain VPN to work -- and in the end you don't want to lose root -- you could try doing the numerous root-hiding methods. There are many games, banking apps, and streaming apps that won't work with root (without even giving you a warning that it's because of root detection sometimes) that, once you hide root successfully, are able to run it. It sounds like that could possibly be the case for your VPN.
There are these you can try (if you haven't yet); Zygisk Deny List, UniversalSafetyNetFix (Displax mod works best with P7P), Shamiko, HideMyApp, Magisk Delta, etc.
Also, please be aware (or reminded if you know already) that while unrooting will not wipe and reset your device, locking your bootloader requires wiping the device and you losing everything! You'll be able to get some stuff restored through Google One Backup/Sync, but most everything will need to be set back up and/or lost. And if all you are seeking is to get a VPN to work, I really highly doubt that the app/service goes so far as to detect if you have an unlocked bootloader; it seems there are some banking apps that go that far, but most apps out there don't go that far, and hearing a VPN does would be a first...
Good luck!
Just Google VPN. Do not work anymore from about two months and seems can be a root/unlocked issue.
Anyway, u're right. Ty so much.