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Hello,
Just bough myself the amazing Galaxy Note 10, and it has "Peel Smart Remote" built-in app.
This app works fine with a lot of TV brands, but I believe it could be even better.
Are there any other apps that can control that IR emitter as well?
I want to be able to control my cable TV decoder, as well as other devices in my house, that are NOT available on peel.
As I'm trying to learn android dev (very beginning yet), I would love to know how to write my own app, so I could try to write something useful.
However, there are NO DOCS AT ALL about it! Not on Android SDK, not on Samsung SDK. No API related, absolutely nothing.
Looking at Samsung developer forums, their oficial position about the subject is that "there is no information about it, that's all we known".
Well, if "Peel Smart Remote" app is able to control that infrared chip, it MUST have a way for us (developers) to do the same!
Can anyone tell me/us how to start?
I don't know, maybe a little reverse engineering in peel's source code to find out how peel works, and reproduce it!
I believe I'm not the only one that is looking for some different uses for the IR Led Emitter on the Galaxy Note 10, so let's try to figure out something!
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934442&page=3
afaik touchsquid programmers got the api from Samsung
Haldi4803 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934442&page=3
afaik touchsquid programmers got the api from Samsung
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Hummmm now that was weird...
I just downloaded that touchsquid demo, and they have A LOT of limitation on the demo version: "you cannot try the samsung TV in this demo version". Also, you can't download it from market/play, you download the INSTALLER from play, and have to allow "allow other source" to install it.
I mean, if peel is obscure, touchsquid is even more!
What are they afraid of?
nope!
Demo mode has limited function because of license...send me a pm arr arr!
You install the .apk from market, And then You install the help And settings apk. These two are separat. No Idea why.
The developers of touchsquid are extremely responsive, I paid the £11 for the Samsung tablet version, it nicely controls my UK sky+, Samsung tv and hdmi switcher "straight out of the box" and after a couple of email exchanges my Phillips DVD system, they responded to emails the same day and in both cases updated their device database with correct ir codes within 1 to 2 days. Bearing in mind how poor Peel its for non American users, this it's the only alternative at present, it's a bit of a niche due to the general lack of devices with an ir emitter so any attempts of the developer community to make one would be keenly anticipated
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I wish Logitech would get in on this. I LOVE my harmony one remote, and would happily pay for an app that would let me do the same with my tab, even if it is a spendy app.
twiggums said:
I wish Logitech would get in on this. I LOVE my harmony one remote, and would happily pay for an app that would let me do the same with my tab, even if it is a spendy app.
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Ask, and you shall receive...
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/tablet-accessories/other-accessories/harmony-link
Edited to Add: Oops! Sorry, doesn't work with ICS. WTH? Also requires an add on device...
Nakel said:
Ask, and you shall receive...
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/tablet-accessories/other-accessories/harmony-link
Edited to Add: Oops! Sorry, doesn't work with ICS. WTH? Also requires an add on device...
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That's strange - stupid Logitech! I found that the best IR software for Android is the one that comes with the Sony Tablets. It has a great database of existing devices, but it also allows the IR blaster to learn commands from existing controls (ie I have an infra-red controlled light switch which it works with).
I imagine if there is an API for the IR Blaster someone could program such features in.....it's frustrating that Peel doesn't work with Sky though. I might try the suggestion above myself.
jonboyuk said:
I found that the best IR software for Android is the one that comes with the Sony Tablets. It has a great database of existing devices, but it also allows the IR blaster to learn commands from existing controls (ie I have an infra-red controlled light switch which it works with).
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Any chance you could post links to the Sony apk and to that IR switch that allows the Note to learn commands? That would be great!
Haldi4803 said:
Demo mode has limited function because of license...send me a pm arr arr!
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Just sent. License from who? Samsung? I mean.. Do we need to have a licensed remote control to work with Samsung (or other) devices?
Or is the license about using their trademark?
I mean, (if we got that API), can't we develop apps to control Samsung (and other) devices?
Can't we share them for free on Google Play? I can't think a way that this would cause financial losses for them!
Nakel said:
Any chance you could post links to the Sony apk and to that IR switch that allows the Note to learn commands? That would be great!
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Actually, Galaxy Tab/Note only have IR Emitter.
It doesn't have a receiver, that's why we can't have a "IR Code Learning" with our Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Note.
Are there any developers here who can help me disassembly existing APKs, and try to find out how to control that IR chip?
I never worked with Java before, only learned to disassembly compiled C/C++ applications...
Nakel said:
Any chance you could post links to the Sony apk and to that IR switch that allows the Note to learn commands? That would be great!
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As said before it's merely a blaster - not a receiver. Touchsquid is great but sadly the ui is seriously lacking polish!!
Yeah, yeah, I get that the Note 10.1 does not have a IR receiver. If you read the quote I list, a poster claims to have a switch that allows the sony app to learn. Hence, I asked for a link to the app and the switch.
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Yeah, yeah, I get that the Note 10.1 does not have a IR receiver. If you read the quote I list, a poster claims to have a switch that allows the sony app to learn. Hence, I asked for a link to the app and the switch.
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No he doesn't - because that was me who said that. In fact, what I said was there is on the Sony S Tablet, the program is capable of learning commands BECAUSE the Sony has an IR receiver built in. Which doesn't help us because the Note 10.1 doesn't (which I have found out since making that post). I never said it would work on the 10.1!
jonboyuk said:
No he doesn't - because that was me who said that. In fact, what I said was there is on the Sony S Tablet, the program is capable of learning commands BECAUSE the Sony has an IR receiver built in. Which doesn't help us because the Note 10.1 doesn't (which I have found out since making that post). I never said it would work on the 10.1!
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My mistake for misunderstanding your post.
jonboyuk said:
No he doesn't - because that was me who said that. In fact, what I said was there is on the Sony S Tablet, the program is capable of learning commands BECAUSE the Sony has an IR receiver built in. Which doesn't help us because the Note 10.1 doesn't (which I have found out since making that post). I never said it would work on the 10.1!
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Well the Note hasnt a dedicated IR receiver, but maybe the camera could just do the same job. You can see the IR diode of any remote flashing if you point at the camera whilst using the cam app. Anyway there are already tons of IR codes available on the web, all we need is an app which is way more customable than the Peel app.
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Well the Note hasnt a dedicated IR receiver, but maybe the camera could just do the same job. You can see the IR diode of any remote flashing if you point at the camera whilst using the cam app. Anyway there are already tons of IR codes available on the web, all we need is an app which is way more customable than the Peel app.
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What is really a "IR Code"?
Is that about the frequency of IR Led Blinking?
For example, on PEEL you have to choose your device, than you can customize key codes.
Example: My LG TV: Vol-up=326, Vol-down=327.
Peel doesn't support it, but let's say it DOES, and I choose "Samsung TV", but customize the Vol-Down code to "326".
Will it work on my LG TV? Or are there any other variables that intereferes on it?
I mean, if the only variable is that "code", than we could make a "Brute force" trying codes from 1 to 6556, and pause it when something happens to our TV or any other device, is that right?
About the camera working as a IR Receptor, that really would makes sense IF camera could take enough fps to decode the frequency.
That's something to investigate.
Are the programmers in "Android Development" aware of this thread? Someone with a little more technical information could add more to this thread (I can't post there, unfortunally).
Here's a good explaination of codes: ww w. hifi-remote.c om/infrared/IR-PWM.shtm l.
Some raw LG codes are here: files.remotecentral.c om/library/3-1/lg/2008_television/index.ht ml.
For the moment i have no idea how the 'code' number in the Peel remote is linked to the raw code. Illhave a look there tomorrow
Does anyboda have new informations regarding a infrared remote APP?
It would be great if I could remote control my LED Stripes with the Galaxy Note 10.1. There are some similar apps like IRDroid but all are using an external device.
Would it be possible to use the integrated infrared interface in android APP?
I copied the following response from Samsung's developer forum. Samsung will not release the API for the IR blaster on Galaxy Tab 2 series.
developer.samsung.com/forum/board/thread/view.do?boardName=GeneralB&messageId=169974
[email protected], Sep, 06, 2012 06:15 Post #1
Hello,
I have bad news for you.
Unfortunately I can't help you, since we don't provide IR Api to the public.
Regards,
Adam Panasiuk
Samsung Developers
Originally posted by : [email protected]
Hello,
I'll try to get the information you require and get back to you soon.
Regards,
Adam Panasiuk
Samsung Developers
Originally posted by : [email protected]
Hello!
We would like to find out if we can utilize the IR (Infrared) port on the Galaxy to comunicate to a another device. We do not see that the Standard Android SDK has any support for IR. Does Samsun have an SDK or API to utilize?
Thanks,
jeremy
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Here is another forum post, I noticed that the username of the last response is "TouchSquid". They must have either talked to someone higher up at Samsung or figured it out on their own since they now offer an app.
developer.samsung.com/forum/board/thread/view.do?boardName=GeneralB&messageId=140654
This lack of an SDK is both bizarre and confusing. Both of the available apps - Peel and Touchsquid - are useless for different reasons. If you could combine them both then they might add up to a useful app but separately they're useless. I've tried and uninstalled both.
The thing that's really needed is someting I've been after for a long time and I'm surprised no-one has yet thought of it - a combined IP Remote. All the Hifi and electronics manaufacturers have their own apps and SDKs to control their equipment over wifi and each one needs to be installed separately. Imagine a single interface that could talk to all of the various IP controls. You wouldn't need an IR port then, just a set of IP controllable equipment.
It could be extended to incorporate things like Mediaportal or XBMC, WDTV live, AppleTV? - basically anything with a web based interface and an SDK. Build it so that each remote is added as a plugin and it can be expanded as each new device comes along. It would be the ultimate Home Cinema remote!
Someone get on it!
Ray Maker of DC Rainmaker on Twitter reports ANT+ is coming to the Samsung Galaxy S4 through an October Firmware update and will be supported on all flagship devices going into the future
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"We will support ANT+ in the Galaxy S4 in a firmware update coming in October" - Samsung (at the ANT+ Symposium)
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"We do plan to support ANT+ on all of our flagship smartphone devices in the future" - Samsung (at the ANT+ Symposium)
Ray now has a blog post about this:
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/10/samsung-mobile-devices.html
Particularly for anyone with sports data tracking devices this is huge news! Not to mention ANT+ is pretty simple to implement now with the new Plugin services they're bundling with the Note 3 right now
ANT also allows you to build really neat wireless topologies as well if your into that stuff, plus it supports full multicast as seen on DC Rainmaker:
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/09/curiositysurvey-different-cycling.html
A little background on ANT and ANT+:
ANT is a mature ultra low power wireless protocol running on the 2.4 GHz band like WiFi and Bluetooth. Bluetooth Smart is a protocol similar to ANT but architected around Bluetooth style bonding/pairing with several connection layers and services.
ANT is a compact and flexible protocol, allowing virtually any type of wireless network topology to be created. ANT transmitters automatically manage coexistence and divide the RF channel they are transmitting on into timeslots, which means any number of receivers can listen to an ANT device, excellent for gyms, training areas, anything which requires a large number of transmitters, as ANT can handle potentially hundreds of devices transmitting to an infinite number of receivers.
ANT+ is a set of interoperability specifications called "Device Profiles" which means devices which use them are able to "talk" to one another. ANT+ has reportedly shipped in over 60+ million devices globally, predominantly in Sports and Fitness (Adidas miCoach, Garmin Watches, Running Sensors, Heart Rate Straps, etc).
Why does this matter?
Right now, it only matters if you're into any type of sports or fitness training, or if you have an idea which requires 600+ transmitters communicating to XXX number of receivers simultaneously. As a nice bonus, any ANT+ device is compatible with any app as long as it's certified.
For developers
The ANT+ API appears to be much simpler to implement than the BLE API. The ANT+ API already handles device discovery and decoding of data events from sensors into the useful data without even reading the Device Profile. You just request access to heart rate, cadence, etc, and then subscribe to the event handlers which pass the data to you decoded. The BLE API still requires a lot of work to do the decoding properly, handling characteristics, etc
ANT+ Plugin API - Supported from Android 2.1+
http://www.thisisant.com/APIassets/.../plugins/antplus/pcc/AntPlusHeartRatePcc.html
BLE - Officially integrated from Android 4.3+
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/bluetooth-le.html
Some Apps which include ANT+:
-Google My Tracks
-Endomondo
-Sportstracklive
-Garmin Fit™
-Run.GPS Trainer UV
-IpBike, IpWatts, IpPeloton, IpSmartHr
-Selfloops
-SportyPal
-MapMyFITNESS/RIDE/RUN/WALK+/HIKE/DOGWALK
Directory of Certified Devices
http://www.thisisant.com/directory
How will it help us exactly?
fuser1337 said:
How will it help us exactly?
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Right now its used mostly in sports and fitness although some of those device profiles they've implemented are branching into things like remote control like the O-synce bike handle bar remotes. They submitted patches for Apollo but the developer's busy with other features ATM.
sounds like bloat..
dannyella said:
sounds like bloat..
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It depends on how you use your phone.
For fitness addicts like me, that is good news.
In general, there are different protocols to transfer the data from your heart rate belt. Most devices for home use like spinning use the ANT+ - protocol. Others use the Bluetooth 3.o 0r 4.0 protocol.
BT 4.0 LE (Low Energy = battery saving) is implemented to Android 4.3. I am guessing that it is the same with ANT+.
Benefit for Android-users: You can use your heart rate belt that you use with your home device also with your Android phone
I use ant to build my projects.. lol..
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Great news! Any reference?
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it's an interesting move for Samsung to make. Considering they and their competitors are bringing out smart watches using bt4 and android 4.3 standardising bt4 api. It was starting to look like ant+ was going to lose the smartphone market. Perhaps they cut a deal with Samsung
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it's an interesting move for Samsung to make. Considering they and their competitors are bringing out smart watches using bt4 and android 4.3 standardising bt4 api. It was starting to look like ant+ was going to lose the smartphone market. Perhaps they cut a deal with Samsung
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Honestly, Ill believe Ant+ inclusion when it actually happens. BT4 smart has started to catch on with cycling manufacters, both Topeak (currently) and Wahoo (soon) will be able to use bt4 smart sensors soon. I saw a S4 at Interbike hooked up to a BT smart heartrate monitor and speed/cadence sensor.
This was big news to me, as for a long time without a dongle (super annoying) there was no way to use an Android phone with speed/cadence sensors or heartrate monitors, unless you had a sony.
If Ant+ doesnt pick up soon, its going to be left behind. Android including BT smart in 4.3 is going to change the field for newer phones.
I too would like to see some documentation/references about Ant+ inclusion.
-Bicycle Industry Professional
After flashing the 4.3 leak i noticed some ANT library packages in the 'installed packages' list.
I found the app "ANT+ Demo" from the app store and it is reading my ANT device! It's already working!
It is working with an ANT+ development kit i have here on my desk, haven't tried it with any official devices yet.
I do have ant+ and some ant plugins installed on my note 3. Factory untouched android 4.3
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After flashing the 4.3 leak i noticed some ANT library packages in the 'installed packages' list.
I found the app "ANT+ Demo" from the app store and it is reading my ANT device! It's already working!
It is working with an ANT+ development kit i have here on my desk, haven't tried it with any official devices yet.
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What "4.3 leak" did you flash? Can you tell us the rom? Can we have some links/references? Where do I get the packages so I can bribe some S4 cook to bake it into some rom? (or am I missusing the term?)
I use ANT+ to upload my running activities from my garmin watch to the garmin website. As the watch can only comunicate via ANT+, I either have to have a PC around or, when in holiday or somehting, I have to use a micro usb otg adapter and connect the ANT+ dongle to my samsung s2 using an app called garmin-uploader (along with a coupple of ant+ services found on google play).
There is something that I don't quite understand here.
Does this mean that these devices listed (s4 and s3 I believe) were already shipped with ANT+ capable hardware?
ANT+ was therefore already possible on them by using the ANT+ radio service available on google play without the need of an ANT+ dongle right ?
If not, and the hardware has to be enabled somehow with a propretary driver of Samsung, how about the Samsung S4 Google edition? Those don’t have a Samsung customized ROM but a google vanilla Android right?
Also, DCrainmaker wrote a post about the matter :
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/10/samsung-mobile-devices.html
I see the lack of balls in Samsung to not include the S4 active to get ant+. It's worth pointing out amoled screens are organic and have their life degraded by heat as well as UV light.
there's some photos posted a couple times on xda forums where someone bought a store display s3 or note 2 that had the original screen sticker decals shadow burnt into the screen. In fact it was the rest of the screen that was exposed to the light that had degraded. The sticker decals had shaded the screen and not degraded some parts leaving their shape visible on a white screen.
I suppose it doesn't matter for indoor sports at least...
here's a couple of examples a quick Google search pulls up
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39910331
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34705628
?????? Galaxy S3 ??????
this thread needs a *BUMP* !!
Has anyone checked if ANT+ his working in the I9505XXUEMI8 leak?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
It is showing running for me under running processes. Doesn't seem to make any difference to me though
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bennetski said:
It is showing running for me under running processes. Doesn't seem to make any difference to me though
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Do you have any ANT+ equipment to test with an app? (Believe endomondo supports ant+ HRM)
Considering updating to the leaked firmware, but the whole KNOX thing is making me a bit reluctant...
Unfortunately I don't have any supporting equipment. I am one of the lucky ones to have got the leaked 4.3 without getting knox installed but I wasn't really bothered even if I did. It's just a warranty void. It's actually very hard to brick an S4.
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Great news. Another 10 or more MB spent on software which is dedicated to communicate with specific hardware, and if you do not have such, it will be silently running in background consuming the battery and memory.
I have advice foe Samsung: guys, please do not forget about the dedicated BT controller to very common equipment like Boeing 737 or Airbus series 3 (310, 319, 320, 330, 340 380 etc.).
These planes are really popular nowadays and each pilot would really appreciate if he could for example control the flaps while playing Jewels
I seen a video on youtube where someone had an NFC tag that opened his smart lock when he touched it with his n5. Can anyone give me directions or link to where I can find how to do this? Thanks
Could I somehow use tasker to control my revolv automation to open it?
I've seen this video where somebody uses a Samsung Galaxy S4.
I believe it indeed uses Tasker (if you look closely you can see that it is installed on the phone) to trigger (using Locale NFC Plugin) the phone to communicate with a Z-Wave hub such as Vera (with the AutoVera plugin) to unlock the door.
It doesn't look like an equivalent Tasker plugin is available with the Revolv hub and it can't be done directly yet as I've been told that Yale's NFC enabled dead bolt availability has been delayed. As of now I believe you can only purchase dead bolts from the Real Living series with a Z-Wave radio module. Are expected:
ZigBee radios (about to become available)
NFC (2014/12)
Bluetooth Low Energy (Q1 2015)
Once available NFC and BLE enabled dead bolts should work with ASSA ABLOY's Seos Mobile Access system (available on Google play).
Hello everybody,
I am trying to develop a bluetooth connection between the watch and a android mobile device (non Samsung) : the watch application would send heart rate and pedometer values to the mobile device, and the mobile device would transfer notifications to the watch.
I would like to know first if it is possible to establish a connection with a mobile that is not Samsung, and without having to download any samsung application (that would require an internet access) because I read on the Accessory Programming Guide that "Samsung Accessory Service Framework should be installed on the device before launching an application.".
Is it possible to send the data I mentioned before with Tizen SDK ?
Thanks a lot for your answers
You have Gear Sx for test?
And you have downloaded Accessory examples?
http://developer.samsung.com/galaxy/accessory
And you have access to Galaxy Apps Store? The Samsung thingie... because I have no idea if this app is also in Google Playstore...
Install App "File Transfer for Gear"...
This seems exact from these SDK examples...
Only as info.
Best Regards
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slandmedia.filesmaster
Check this too... as example.
I can't find the other App in Google...
No I don't have a Gear yet, that is why I am asking, it is useless for me to buy it if it can not do those things.
I have downloaded the sample but it does not really helps me with these questions !
What application should I download on the Galaxy App Store ?
Thanks again !
Okidoki.
Without Test device... Gear... Sx it is hard to answer...
I have tiny little problems with SM-R732 and Tizen handset...
SM-Z130H
For me it is not clear... why BT is the "Holy Grail"... and Gear Manager Software mandatory... and Samsung handset.
Maybe in "few days" I know more...
Next attempt is to compile the accessory Samples for Tizen "client"...
As at the moment it is impossible to me, to download apps for Gear...
In "theory" as blocked by Samsung... could WiFi Direct work...
Another idea is...
Open Ports... example from SM-R732
Code:
Port 21 FTP;transfer
Port 53 DNS
Port 8080 HTTP;Alternativer HTTP-Port, oft von Proxyservern verwendet
Port 26101 SDB connection
Let me know, if you find solution.
Best Regards
Thanks for your answer.
Why would it help to open Ports ?
The main important thing for me, is to not use any internet connection. I also discovered that in order to setup the watch, you need to download the gear app on the mobile and connect to a samsung account; I saw that it is possible to set it up as "standalone" with a manipulation but that then, the functionalities are limited. Do you know if bluetooth is available when the watch is standalone ?
Regards
I have to fight against few limitations...
I can NOT use Gear Manager app on Samsung GT-I9300 S3 device with Android 4.3...
Reactivation Lock
I need more time for my own tests...
Because for now only theory...
Meanwhile all apps I found in Gear Samsung Store are paid apps... related File Manager and Transfer...
So without paying money... I have nothing to test...
Only I can do is to compile the Samsung Accessory Examples... if I have more time...
Best Regards
Maybe check this Document, if you not allready did...
http://img-developer.samsung.com/co...ting_Gear_applications_using_the_Emulator.pdf
Here you can see how complicated this all is... :silly:
There is no easy way... and Samsung Accessory seems mandatory...
Best Regards
On my S7 I was able to start a couple of hidden activities using Quick Shortcut Maker; I looked around for them but nobody talks about them; there are "just" the sources:
https://insight.io/github.com/andro...ges/SystemUI/src/com/android/systemui/tv/pip/
On my Samsung S7 with Android 7 these activities are available:
PipMenuActivity - three buttons appear: fullscreen, close, pause
PipOnboardingActivity - a remote control image appears
PipOverlayActivity - nothing happens
Any idea about how to access "properly" such activities from onboard native apps/options?
IR blaster
hi, I was bored scanning the forum saw your post and decided to respond . the galaxy s series beginning with note 3 are equipped with an ir blaster. It does what it sounds like it does lol. Anyway my note 4 came loaded with a smart remote app (once again does what u would think it would do lmao) Works with my ac, TV , stereo and I believe it would work with any non encrypted ir receiver using the 2.4ghz band (obviously Xbox and the like are a no go)I think this might be the tool to access the above mentioned activities you came across while exploring your s7 services/activities.