ANT+ Coming to All Galaxy S4 (And All New Samsung Flagships in the Future) - Galaxy S 4 General

Ray Maker of DC Rainmaker on Twitter reports ANT+ is coming to the Samsung Galaxy S4 through an October Firmware update and will be supported on all flagship devices going into the future
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"We will support ANT+ in the Galaxy S4 in a firmware update coming in October" - Samsung (at the ANT+ Symposium)
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"We do plan to support ANT+ on all of our flagship smartphone devices in the future" - Samsung (at the ANT+ Symposium)
Ray now has a blog post about this:
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/10/samsung-mobile-devices.html
Particularly for anyone with sports data tracking devices this is huge news! Not to mention ANT+ is pretty simple to implement now with the new Plugin services they're bundling with the Note 3 right now
ANT also allows you to build really neat wireless topologies as well if your into that stuff, plus it supports full multicast as seen on DC Rainmaker:
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/09/curiositysurvey-different-cycling.html
A little background on ANT and ANT+:
ANT is a mature ultra low power wireless protocol running on the 2.4 GHz band like WiFi and Bluetooth. Bluetooth Smart is a protocol similar to ANT but architected around Bluetooth style bonding/pairing with several connection layers and services.
ANT is a compact and flexible protocol, allowing virtually any type of wireless network topology to be created. ANT transmitters automatically manage coexistence and divide the RF channel they are transmitting on into timeslots, which means any number of receivers can listen to an ANT device, excellent for gyms, training areas, anything which requires a large number of transmitters, as ANT can handle potentially hundreds of devices transmitting to an infinite number of receivers.
ANT+ is a set of interoperability specifications called "Device Profiles" which means devices which use them are able to "talk" to one another. ANT+ has reportedly shipped in over 60+ million devices globally, predominantly in Sports and Fitness (Adidas miCoach, Garmin Watches, Running Sensors, Heart Rate Straps, etc).
Why does this matter?
Right now, it only matters if you're into any type of sports or fitness training, or if you have an idea which requires 600+ transmitters communicating to XXX number of receivers simultaneously. As a nice bonus, any ANT+ device is compatible with any app as long as it's certified.
For developers
The ANT+ API appears to be much simpler to implement than the BLE API. The ANT+ API already handles device discovery and decoding of data events from sensors into the useful data without even reading the Device Profile. You just request access to heart rate, cadence, etc, and then subscribe to the event handlers which pass the data to you decoded. The BLE API still requires a lot of work to do the decoding properly, handling characteristics, etc
ANT+ Plugin API - Supported from Android 2.1+
http://www.thisisant.com/APIassets/.../plugins/antplus/pcc/AntPlusHeartRatePcc.html
BLE - Officially integrated from Android 4.3+
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/bluetooth-le.html
Some Apps which include ANT+:
-Google My Tracks
-Endomondo
-Sportstracklive
-Garmin Fit™
-Run.GPS Trainer UV
-IpBike, IpWatts, IpPeloton, IpSmartHr
-Selfloops
-SportyPal
-MapMyFITNESS/RIDE/RUN/WALK+/HIKE/DOGWALK
Directory of Certified Devices
http://www.thisisant.com/directory

How will it help us exactly?

fuser1337 said:
How will it help us exactly?
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Right now its used mostly in sports and fitness although some of those device profiles they've implemented are branching into things like remote control like the O-synce bike handle bar remotes. They submitted patches for Apollo but the developer's busy with other features ATM.

sounds like bloat..

dannyella said:
sounds like bloat..
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It depends on how you use your phone.
For fitness addicts like me, that is good news.
In general, there are different protocols to transfer the data from your heart rate belt. Most devices for home use like spinning use the ANT+ - protocol. Others use the Bluetooth 3.o 0r 4.0 protocol.
BT 4.0 LE (Low Energy = battery saving) is implemented to Android 4.3. I am guessing that it is the same with ANT+.
Benefit for Android-users: You can use your heart rate belt that you use with your home device also with your Android phone

I use ant to build my projects.. lol..
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Great news! Any reference?
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it's an interesting move for Samsung to make. Considering they and their competitors are bringing out smart watches using bt4 and android 4.3 standardising bt4 api. It was starting to look like ant+ was going to lose the smartphone market. Perhaps they cut a deal with Samsung

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it's an interesting move for Samsung to make. Considering they and their competitors are bringing out smart watches using bt4 and android 4.3 standardising bt4 api. It was starting to look like ant+ was going to lose the smartphone market. Perhaps they cut a deal with Samsung
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Honestly, Ill believe Ant+ inclusion when it actually happens. BT4 smart has started to catch on with cycling manufacters, both Topeak (currently) and Wahoo (soon) will be able to use bt4 smart sensors soon. I saw a S4 at Interbike hooked up to a BT smart heartrate monitor and speed/cadence sensor.
This was big news to me, as for a long time without a dongle (super annoying) there was no way to use an Android phone with speed/cadence sensors or heartrate monitors, unless you had a sony.
If Ant+ doesnt pick up soon, its going to be left behind. Android including BT smart in 4.3 is going to change the field for newer phones.
I too would like to see some documentation/references about Ant+ inclusion.
-Bicycle Industry Professional

After flashing the 4.3 leak i noticed some ANT library packages in the 'installed packages' list.
I found the app "ANT+ Demo" from the app store and it is reading my ANT device! It's already working!
It is working with an ANT+ development kit i have here on my desk, haven't tried it with any official devices yet.

I do have ant+ and some ant plugins installed on my note 3. Factory untouched android 4.3
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jorgenmk said:
After flashing the 4.3 leak i noticed some ANT library packages in the 'installed packages' list.
I found the app "ANT+ Demo" from the app store and it is reading my ANT device! It's already working!
It is working with an ANT+ development kit i have here on my desk, haven't tried it with any official devices yet.
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What "4.3 leak" did you flash? Can you tell us the rom? Can we have some links/references? Where do I get the packages so I can bribe some S4 cook to bake it into some rom? (or am I missusing the term?)

I use ANT+ to upload my running activities from my garmin watch to the garmin website. As the watch can only comunicate via ANT+, I either have to have a PC around or, when in holiday or somehting, I have to use a micro usb otg adapter and connect the ANT+ dongle to my samsung s2 using an app called garmin-uploader (along with a coupple of ant+ services found on google play).
There is something that I don't quite understand here.
Does this mean that these devices listed (s4 and s3 I believe) were already shipped with ANT+ capable hardware?
ANT+ was therefore already possible on them by using the ANT+ radio service available on google play without the need of an ANT+ dongle right ?
If not, and the hardware has to be enabled somehow with a propretary driver of Samsung, how about the Samsung S4 Google edition? Those don’t have a Samsung customized ROM but a google vanilla Android right?
Also, DCrainmaker wrote a post about the matter :
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/10/samsung-mobile-devices.html

I see the lack of balls in Samsung to not include the S4 active to get ant+. It's worth pointing out amoled screens are organic and have their life degraded by heat as well as UV light.
there's some photos posted a couple times on xda forums where someone bought a store display s3 or note 2 that had the original screen sticker decals shadow burnt into the screen. In fact it was the rest of the screen that was exposed to the light that had degraded. The sticker decals had shaded the screen and not degraded some parts leaving their shape visible on a white screen.
I suppose it doesn't matter for indoor sports at least...
here's a couple of examples a quick Google search pulls up
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39910331
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34705628
?????? Galaxy S3 ??????

this thread needs a *BUMP* !!
Has anyone checked if ANT+ his working in the I9505XXUEMI8 leak?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713

It is showing running for me under running processes. Doesn't seem to make any difference to me though
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bennetski said:
It is showing running for me under running processes. Doesn't seem to make any difference to me though
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Do you have any ANT+ equipment to test with an app? (Believe endomondo supports ant+ HRM)
Considering updating to the leaked firmware, but the whole KNOX thing is making me a bit reluctant...

Unfortunately I don't have any supporting equipment. I am one of the lucky ones to have got the leaked 4.3 without getting knox installed but I wasn't really bothered even if I did. It's just a warranty void. It's actually very hard to brick an S4.
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Great news. Another 10 or more MB spent on software which is dedicated to communicate with specific hardware, and if you do not have such, it will be silently running in background consuming the battery and memory.
I have advice foe Samsung: guys, please do not forget about the dedicated BT controller to very common equipment like Boeing 737 or Airbus series 3 (310, 319, 320, 330, 340 380 etc.).
These planes are really popular nowadays and each pilot would really appreciate if he could for example control the flaps while playing Jewels

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Android Bluetooth Stack Development

Hey I know I'm more of a leech than a seed but I want to start an open discussion / brainstorm about the limited bluetooth capabilities within Android. Specifically on the HTC Dream (G1).
I don't have a strong grasp on Linux but I've been playing with different flavors since i was 13 (11 years). I don't have the knowledge or the support to even attempt this.
HOWEVER I do have a job and I do have the money (donation) to support anyone with the ability and the time.
That being said I would like to talk to anybody who would be Seriously interested in developing additional profiles for the bluetooth stack.
Anyone who has wanted to FTP over bluetooth or for me send my phonebook to my Lexus GS350 I would appreciate donations towards a common goal.
The $ would go to the developer or team. Of course after that it would have to be open source and free to the community.
I have not created a paypal or account for pooling donations but whoever is seriously interested contact me. I've got $300 (donation) to get you started (motivated)
Au Revoir,
-Koocat
how do i make it bold lol
koocat said:
Hey I know I'm more of a leech than a seed but I want to start an open discussion / brainstorm about the limited bluetooth capabilities within Android. Specifically on the HTC Dream (G1).
I don't have a strong grasp on Linux but I've been playing with different flavors since i was 13 (11 years). I don't have the knowledge or the support to even attempt this.
HOWEVER I do have a job and I do have the money (donation) to support anyone with the ability and the time.
That being said I would like to talk to anybody who would be Seriously interested in developing additional profiles for the bluetooth stack.
Anyone who has wanted to FTP over bluetooth or for me send my phonebook to my Lexus GS350 I would appreciate donations towards a common goal.
The $ would go to the developer or team. Of course after that it would have to be open source and free to the community.
I have not created a paypal or account for pooling donations but whoever is seriously interested contact me. I've got $300 (donation) to get you started (motivated)
Au Revoir,
-Koocat
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i'm all about development and hard work, but with the release of blutooth 3.0, wouldn't it be better just to save the $ and put it towards the next android device that is compatible with bt3.0( which utilizes wifi for bt transfer...not to mention the improved battery life). what are your thoughts?
its not about the money. I'm using dudes cupcake rom whatever latest rom .92 and as far as i know there is no way to send my phone book to my Lexus when it prompts me to create a phonebook and because of this I can't use voice dial and nazi lexus basicly won't allow you to input anything while the car is in motion. the specs released on 1.5 only included stereo bluetooth theres still no push allowed or PBA
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i'm all about development and hard work, but with the release of blutooth 3.0, wouldn't it be better just to save the $ and put it towards the next android device that is compatible with bt3.0( which utilizes wifi for bt transfer...not to mention the improved battery life). what are your thoughts?
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would my car even work if bt is trans over wifi spectrum?
koocat said:
would my car even work if bt is trans over wifi spectrum?
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no, and sorry for the confusion. My point was that this android incarnation is lacking in bluetooth capabilities, and there has just been a new bluetooth technology released, not only having the wifi capability, but also all current profiles. I am sure that android will support this in the future with hardware in a new device, but for now, they are probably content with what they have, since it is an evolving technology.
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i'm all about development and hard work, but with the release of blutooth 3.0, wouldn't it be better just to save the $ and put it towards the next android device that is compatible with bt3.0( which utilizes wifi for bt transfer...not to mention the improved battery life). what are your thoughts?
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Umm, Bluetooth 3.0 standard was just released. We're not going to be seeing any Bluetooth 3.0 devices for another few years, one at the minimum. Not to mention that the OP's Lexus would still require a transfer via Bluetooth 2.0 technology.
I would be content if an open phone with an open platform supported bluetooth features I could actually use.
I manually added one contact into the lexus and manually set the voice rec. and then attempted to call using 'dial by name' and it will only work if the dream is unlocked and awake.
BT 3.0 will be great. but I'd have to get a new phone and depending on the backward capabilities a new car too.
but that brings the question "how long do i have to wait for bt 3.0"
"how long do i have to wait for cupcake"
I was hoping with 1.5 they would expand on the BT stack and they did but not for anything I can use. whats funny is 2 years ago when I had Verizon and a Voyager I thought I was cool to have stereo bluetooth headphones to rock out too. and they want to market stereo bt as being a great new feature but its not new
koocat said:
I would be content if an open phone with an open platform supported bluetooth features I could actually use.
I manually added one contact into the lexus and manually set the voice rec. and then attempted to call using 'dial by name' and it will only work if the dream is unlocked and awake.
BT 3.0 will be great. but I'd have to get a new phone and depending on the backward capabilities a new car too.
but that brings the question "how long do i have to wait for bt 3.0"
"how long do i have to wait for cupcake"
I was hoping with 1.5 they would expand on the BT stack and they did but not for anything I can use. whats funny is 2 years ago when I had Verizon and a Voyager I thought I was cool to have stereo bluetooth headphones to rock out too. and they want to market stereo bt as being a great new feature but its not new
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This is an appropriate place to post issues with supported bt profiles already supported, but there is no guarantee that it will be addressed. i'm not speaking for anybody here, but me... butif it were my build, i probably wouldn't modify it for one make of car. There are other vehicles where this is working...am i right? i think so.
so far i think only broadcom has achieved and are planning to produce the new standard, but how long will it be till we see it??? my guess is 6mo- 1yr. Yes, stereo bluetooth is not a new thing, but i'm sure you can grasp the technology curve. "they" are only gonna release what they have to, in the time that will make sense to them, not the consumers. This
is a business, and will be treated as such. For how many years have we been scratching at the heels of EVERY advancement, just to PURCHASE it as soon as it comes around. edit...but to go along with you i was looking forward to file transfer myself, and it didn't happen.
what can i do on my car to verify the bluetooth version installed?, or bluetooth capabilities if you know what i mean
its a mazda 3 2010 sport
Thank you.
Your exactly right and thats what makes Android such a beautiful thing. Because we are longer governed by whatever corporate timeline 'they' decide. the timeline is to maximize profit. cupcake is marketed as a feature update to show dedication to their product and to their customer base but its not a dedication because they were forced to evolve it to make it compatiable with additonal hardware and minimize the media attention towards custom devleopment and end user modification. Google doesnt want to piss off Apple or HTC or T-mobile or Vodaphone ect because thats business.
Google doesnt care if you transfer over bt they dont care if you mod your phone. but when Apple says no mulitouch and vodaphone says No Bluetooth profiles they don't have much of a choice if they want Android to succeed.
and Thats why they made it open.
same with rooting your phone google had to fix it beacuse if they make it look easy they run into problems. T-mob or voda don't want you to teather your phone and use it as a modem and root allows this. so you must disable and discourage root and tell people its a security risk.
fcuk T-mobile and their G1 bs marketing. My phone is a Dream.
---btw the new radio gives me 3G in my house now wootwoot so i can actually talk on the phone with t-mobiles shi*ty service--- I only left Verizon because phones suck Donkey...Anyways..
its not just one car. go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth to see all supported profiles
there are profiles that all cars support. most likely PBA "phone book access"
I know when the Prius 1st came out I was like 16 or 17 lol and none of VZW phones could send phone book data to the Prius only because VZW policy with phone makers demanded they crimple BT profiles even on smart phones. so you couldn't FTP a mp3 and set it as ur ringtone you had to buy the ringtone for 2.99 or what i did back them I used Bitpim but you get the idea.
-Koocat
alfmetal said:
what can i do on my car to verify the bluetooth version installed?, or bluetooth capabilities if you know what i mean
its a mazda 3 2010 sport
Thank you.
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I would google some keywords and try and find a user forum for Mazda cars.
I know theres clublexus.com where I have learned a lot about my car.
for some Lexus (i know for sure the GS and LS models) you turn the car on, then hold down the INFO button while turning the Lights from OFF to ON four times. and the car enters a Service Diagnostic mode and you can view different settings and run diagnostics, clear error codes and rescan. I know theres a spot to view the bluetooth version and software version. You can adjust the Mic volume, send and recieve volume and adjust voice quality.
You really don't need to adjust your car (thats not what this post is about).
Depending on your car you can get updates from the dealer and you can find software mods online for some cars.
example; lexus had a override in the system menu to allow user input while the car was in motion. IN 07' that option was removed on all models so for my 07 Lexus i found a post from someone that had taken the Nav disc for the same model in 06 and he modded and issued a ISO for users burn to get that override feature back.
-Koocat
Bah! @ Bluetooth 3.0. Totally overhyped standard. Could be completely done with adhoc wifi and would be easier and more than 2x as fast.
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Yeah, it is... It's just a wifi coop mode, which requires both parties to have a wifi-radio free to use...
It's not really an optimization of bluetooth :/
Everyone else in here:
Well, i'm not sure you're gonna catch many devs in here (There doesn't seem to be any
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Bah! @ Bluetooth 3.0. Totally overhyped standard. Could be completely done with adhoc wifi and would be easier and more than 2x as fast.
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Power management is much better in Bluetooth. Combining the two gives the best of both worlds. BT 3.0 will be able to connect, go into low power states and only turn on WiFi if a higher speed transfer is required.
BT 3.0 is more than just BT+WiFi anyway. The ability to have an Alternate Mac-Phy (AMP) like WiFi is one feature. There are other new features as well (like better quality of service). Also, an AMP could be a Ultra Wide Band (UWB) radio, with speeds much higher than WiFi with lower power consumption. The potential for 3.0 is really interesting.
But as others have stated in the thread, it will be a while before there are any implementations. We are just starting to see 2.1 devices in the market.
paesano
I know this is only my 2nd post, but I too am looking for better BT Stack. Dont get me wrong I love that I got back my stereo BT on my Pioneer Avic-D3 but unlike my Nokia N95 and my Tilt which lets me transfer my contacts to my Headunit.
Also another thing I miss is sending contact info from one phone to another!
Waiting for the time I can ditch my ipod and be apple-free LOL
I think a total update of the bluetooth would be cool. I think the 3.0 is a bit away but besides just a specific car profile i think it should be and all around compatible bluetooth. with all the devices and allow file transfer as well something that non g1 phones can already do. I think that alone will make it feel much better until until the newer technology is intergrated. That would probably lean me more to donating
I have two old Motorola RAZR's and they transfer data over BT, it is really surprising that the Dream falls short in this area.
I just miss the very basic file transfer (obex) to move images, mp3, contacts, etc. from device to device. I know I can set up an ftp or webserver to allow phone to phone access, but quite frankly we shouldn't have to use a work around for such a standard phone option. ALso, I like to bluetooth pictures from my phone right to the Kodak picture printer in Walmart and other stores. There is no way to install an FTP server or client on that machine (without some hacking).
I would donate if we had some devs on here taking up the task.
Rick
JackD3ath said:
I have two old Motorola RAZR's and they transfer data over BT, it is really surprising that the Dream falls short in this area.
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Personally, I'm not surprised that the Dream falls short in Bluetooth support. My experience with Bluetooth in Linux has been very unsatisfying. I don't know if that stems from the Blue Z stack, or if no one cares enough to do things properly. The last couple of times I upgraded Ubuntu or Kubuntu, Bluetooth was totally broken, and I had to figure out my own workarounds to get some of the functionality I needed.
What I would currently like to see is DUN support, so that my Tom Tom can access the internet. Very few BT phones don't have DUN, especially on T-Mobile. Makes me wonder why T-Mobile wanted to get the Tethering apps out of the marketplace. You can tether with almost every Bluetooth phone they sell!
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[Q] Custom IR - Infrared apps (Similar to PEEL Remote Control)

Hello,
Just bough myself the amazing Galaxy Note 10, and it has "Peel Smart Remote" built-in app.
This app works fine with a lot of TV brands, but I believe it could be even better.
Are there any other apps that can control that IR emitter as well?
I want to be able to control my cable TV decoder, as well as other devices in my house, that are NOT available on peel.
As I'm trying to learn android dev (very beginning yet), I would love to know how to write my own app, so I could try to write something useful.
However, there are NO DOCS AT ALL about it! Not on Android SDK, not on Samsung SDK. No API related, absolutely nothing.
Looking at Samsung developer forums, their oficial position about the subject is that "there is no information about it, that's all we known".
Well, if "Peel Smart Remote" app is able to control that infrared chip, it MUST have a way for us (developers) to do the same!
Can anyone tell me/us how to start?
I don't know, maybe a little reverse engineering in peel's source code to find out how peel works, and reproduce it!
I believe I'm not the only one that is looking for some different uses for the IR Led Emitter on the Galaxy Note 10, so let's try to figure out something!
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934442&page=3
afaik touchsquid programmers got the api from Samsung
Haldi4803 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934442&page=3
afaik touchsquid programmers got the api from Samsung
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Hummmm now that was weird...
I just downloaded that touchsquid demo, and they have A LOT of limitation on the demo version: "you cannot try the samsung TV in this demo version". Also, you can't download it from market/play, you download the INSTALLER from play, and have to allow "allow other source" to install it.
I mean, if peel is obscure, touchsquid is even more!
What are they afraid of?
nope!
Demo mode has limited function because of license...send me a pm arr arr!
You install the .apk from market, And then You install the help And settings apk. These two are separat. No Idea why.
The developers of touchsquid are extremely responsive, I paid the £11 for the Samsung tablet version, it nicely controls my UK sky+, Samsung tv and hdmi switcher "straight out of the box" and after a couple of email exchanges my Phillips DVD system, they responded to emails the same day and in both cases updated their device database with correct ir codes within 1 to 2 days. Bearing in mind how poor Peel its for non American users, this it's the only alternative at present, it's a bit of a niche due to the general lack of devices with an ir emitter so any attempts of the developer community to make one would be keenly anticipated
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I wish Logitech would get in on this. I LOVE my harmony one remote, and would happily pay for an app that would let me do the same with my tab, even if it is a spendy app.
twiggums said:
I wish Logitech would get in on this. I LOVE my harmony one remote, and would happily pay for an app that would let me do the same with my tab, even if it is a spendy app.
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Ask, and you shall receive...
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/tablet-accessories/other-accessories/harmony-link
Edited to Add: Oops! Sorry, doesn't work with ICS. WTH? Also requires an add on device...
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Ask, and you shall receive...
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/tablet-accessories/other-accessories/harmony-link
Edited to Add: Oops! Sorry, doesn't work with ICS. WTH? Also requires an add on device...
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That's strange - stupid Logitech! I found that the best IR software for Android is the one that comes with the Sony Tablets. It has a great database of existing devices, but it also allows the IR blaster to learn commands from existing controls (ie I have an infra-red controlled light switch which it works with).
I imagine if there is an API for the IR Blaster someone could program such features in.....it's frustrating that Peel doesn't work with Sky though. I might try the suggestion above myself.
jonboyuk said:
I found that the best IR software for Android is the one that comes with the Sony Tablets. It has a great database of existing devices, but it also allows the IR blaster to learn commands from existing controls (ie I have an infra-red controlled light switch which it works with).
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Any chance you could post links to the Sony apk and to that IR switch that allows the Note to learn commands? That would be great!
Haldi4803 said:
Demo mode has limited function because of license...send me a pm arr arr!
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Just sent. License from who? Samsung? I mean.. Do we need to have a licensed remote control to work with Samsung (or other) devices?
Or is the license about using their trademark?
I mean, (if we got that API), can't we develop apps to control Samsung (and other) devices?
Can't we share them for free on Google Play? I can't think a way that this would cause financial losses for them!
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Any chance you could post links to the Sony apk and to that IR switch that allows the Note to learn commands? That would be great!
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Actually, Galaxy Tab/Note only have IR Emitter.
It doesn't have a receiver, that's why we can't have a "IR Code Learning" with our Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Note.
Are there any developers here who can help me disassembly existing APKs, and try to find out how to control that IR chip?
I never worked with Java before, only learned to disassembly compiled C/C++ applications...
Nakel said:
Any chance you could post links to the Sony apk and to that IR switch that allows the Note to learn commands? That would be great!
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As said before it's merely a blaster - not a receiver. Touchsquid is great but sadly the ui is seriously lacking polish!!
Yeah, yeah, I get that the Note 10.1 does not have a IR receiver. If you read the quote I list, a poster claims to have a switch that allows the sony app to learn. Hence, I asked for a link to the app and the switch.
Nakel said:
Yeah, yeah, I get that the Note 10.1 does not have a IR receiver. If you read the quote I list, a poster claims to have a switch that allows the sony app to learn. Hence, I asked for a link to the app and the switch.
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No he doesn't - because that was me who said that. In fact, what I said was there is on the Sony S Tablet, the program is capable of learning commands BECAUSE the Sony has an IR receiver built in. Which doesn't help us because the Note 10.1 doesn't (which I have found out since making that post). I never said it would work on the 10.1!
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No he doesn't - because that was me who said that. In fact, what I said was there is on the Sony S Tablet, the program is capable of learning commands BECAUSE the Sony has an IR receiver built in. Which doesn't help us because the Note 10.1 doesn't (which I have found out since making that post). I never said it would work on the 10.1!
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My mistake for misunderstanding your post.
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No he doesn't - because that was me who said that. In fact, what I said was there is on the Sony S Tablet, the program is capable of learning commands BECAUSE the Sony has an IR receiver built in. Which doesn't help us because the Note 10.1 doesn't (which I have found out since making that post). I never said it would work on the 10.1!
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Well the Note hasnt a dedicated IR receiver, but maybe the camera could just do the same job. You can see the IR diode of any remote flashing if you point at the camera whilst using the cam app. Anyway there are already tons of IR codes available on the web, all we need is an app which is way more customable than the Peel app.
blue_one said:
Well the Note hasnt a dedicated IR receiver, but maybe the camera could just do the same job. You can see the IR diode of any remote flashing if you point at the camera whilst using the cam app. Anyway there are already tons of IR codes available on the web, all we need is an app which is way more customable than the Peel app.
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What is really a "IR Code"?
Is that about the frequency of IR Led Blinking?
For example, on PEEL you have to choose your device, than you can customize key codes.
Example: My LG TV: Vol-up=326, Vol-down=327.
Peel doesn't support it, but let's say it DOES, and I choose "Samsung TV", but customize the Vol-Down code to "326".
Will it work on my LG TV? Or are there any other variables that intereferes on it?
I mean, if the only variable is that "code", than we could make a "Brute force" trying codes from 1 to 6556, and pause it when something happens to our TV or any other device, is that right?
About the camera working as a IR Receptor, that really would makes sense IF camera could take enough fps to decode the frequency.
That's something to investigate.
Are the programmers in "Android Development" aware of this thread? Someone with a little more technical information could add more to this thread (I can't post there, unfortunally).
Here's a good explaination of codes: ww w. hifi-remote.c om/infrared/IR-PWM.shtm l.
Some raw LG codes are here: files.remotecentral.c om/library/3-1/lg/2008_television/index.ht ml.
For the moment i have no idea how the 'code' number in the Peel remote is linked to the raw code. Illhave a look there tomorrow
Does anyboda have new informations regarding a infrared remote APP?
It would be great if I could remote control my LED Stripes with the Galaxy Note 10.1. There are some similar apps like IRDroid but all are using an external device.
Would it be possible to use the integrated infrared interface in android APP?
I copied the following response from Samsung's developer forum. Samsung will not release the API for the IR blaster on Galaxy Tab 2 series.
developer.samsung.com/forum/board/thread/view.do?boardName=GeneralB&messageId=169974
[email protected], Sep, 06, 2012 06:15 Post #1
Hello,
I have bad news for you.
Unfortunately I can't help you, since we don't provide IR Api to the public.
Regards,
Adam Panasiuk
Samsung Developers
Originally posted by : [email protected]
Hello,
I'll try to get the information you require and get back to you soon.
Regards,
Adam Panasiuk
Samsung Developers
Originally posted by : [email protected]
Hello!
We would like to find out if we can utilize the IR (Infrared) port on the Galaxy to comunicate to a another device. We do not see that the Standard Android SDK has any support for IR. Does Samsun have an SDK or API to utilize?
Thanks,
jeremy
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Here is another forum post, I noticed that the username of the last response is "TouchSquid". They must have either talked to someone higher up at Samsung or figured it out on their own since they now offer an app.
developer.samsung.com/forum/board/thread/view.do?boardName=GeneralB&messageId=140654
This lack of an SDK is both bizarre and confusing. Both of the available apps - Peel and Touchsquid - are useless for different reasons. If you could combine them both then they might add up to a useful app but separately they're useless. I've tried and uninstalled both.
The thing that's really needed is someting I've been after for a long time and I'm surprised no-one has yet thought of it - a combined IP Remote. All the Hifi and electronics manaufacturers have their own apps and SDKs to control their equipment over wifi and each one needs to be installed separately. Imagine a single interface that could talk to all of the various IP controls. You wouldn't need an IR port then, just a set of IP controllable equipment.
It could be extended to incorporate things like Mediaportal or XBMC, WDTV live, AppleTV? - basically anything with a web based interface and an SDK. Build it so that each remote is added as a plugin and it can be expanded as each new device comes along. It would be the ultimate Home Cinema remote!
Someone get on it!

App Ideas? Share them! Developers come look!

I see alot of threads around xda requesting miscellaneous apps or ports. I have written down a lot of my ideas and I'm not quite to the stage where I can make them myself, and I'm sure a few others are in the same boat. I don't see much of a point to keeping them a secret when there are alot of capable developers around here. If there are developers out there with free time that see a cool idea in this thread, try to give a mention to the person if you create the app!
3rd party app toggle
Just an app similar to adb toggle, that quickly toggles on 3rd party app installs. It's not secure to leave it on all the time, and for people with settings locked it can cut the time taken to install a 3rd party app. If you're an overachiever try toggling all app installs, not just 3rd party.
Password Scanner
Basically an app that just scans /data for SQLite entries and lists items associated with password fields. Plaintext is enough to make it useful for a lot of people, with options of a pro-version that cracks encrypted passwords.
Car Remote
This is the most challenging one I've thought of. It's an app that uses the device's radio antennas to unlock cars that have remote control locks. I've looked into it and the encryption looks tough to break, but if you're a genius you can probably figure something out. Here's something to get started: auto.howstuffworks.com/remote-entry.htm
Time Machine
I thought of this while reading en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
A mod/app that messes with the clock to cause app compatibility issues, which could enable potential root exploits on devices which don't have current root methods. This one is risky because it is likely it result in bricks (yet another use if you want a device to be bricked in the event of a theft). I'm unsure if something like this would need root access to work.
Share your ideas! My apologies if any of these have been thought of, it wouldn't be the first time I've rethought the wheel.
Wow, some nice ideas there! 3D party app can be a popular one. I also like the car remote app idea, but will it be helpful?
Found this video on a PDA for the car remote, it used infrared though..
Time machine looks interesting but can it be realized !
A port for ADOBE PHOTOSHOP CS6 for Android..!
It will be a big boon for GFX Designers like me..!
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Lol btw those days aren't far
nikufellow said:
Lol btw those days aren't far
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But urs is...
How can a app be a time machine.. xD
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If you sir are able to do something about the 2038 problem then you are getting some world recognition for sure .
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A port for ADOBE PHOTOSHOP CS6 for Android..!
It will be a big boon for GFX Designers like me..!
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oh don't let me get started on the list of ports I want haha. Top 3 would probably be cain & abel, cisco packet tracer, and something like encase.
cs6 is would be nice for sure though, adobe is really slacking with their tablet app. I see something like gimp coming before photoshop due to it's source being more available.
i would really like something like frozen synapse on a phone i think it would work really well.
Make an android rom for the samsung brightside instead of its Brew, and you give 50 thousand people a boner...
its the only smart-ish phone that can be used on verizon without upgrading to the smart phone plan.
if it gets a rom,you have a verizon phone and dont pay the bastards the smart phone fees
I would love a hearing aid app to control the different settings.
Would be amazing!
Car remote app will never work as each car uses some sort of encryption and frequency to unlock the door while the phone antennae can only transmit on 2G/3G/4G frequency bands.
hsalps said:
Car remote app will never work as each car uses some sort of encryption and frequency to unlock the door while the phone antennae can only transmit on 2G/3G/4G frequency bands.
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and bluetooth, and wifi, and gps. There are a number of antennas in each phone. The one in the video I posted managed it with infrared.
I think car remotes work on the 400-500mhz spectrum so it will take some research to how compatible it could be with most phones, and that's not even exploring dongles.
ickkii said:
and bluetooth, and wifi, and gps. There are a number of antennas in each phone. The one in the video I posted managed it with infrared.
I think car remotes work on the 400-500mhz spectrum so it will take some research to how compatible it could be with most phones, and that's not even exploring dongles.
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My Nissan Altima Remote operates on 315Mhz whereas
Bluetooth operates on 2400–2480 MHz
GPS operates on 1575.42 & 1227.60 Mhz
Wifi operates on 2.4, 3.6 and 5 GHz
IR operates on 33 to 40 kHz or 50 to 60 kHz
All these antennae are not capable to transmit in any frequency band, they have been hardwired to operate on a particular band to save money and be power efficient.
Create a 'Date' contact ?
G'Day Guys
I have been searching for an app. now for a few years & have not been able to find one that 'fits the bill'
When I get a phone call from a new contact ( so not currently in the contact list )
Create the contact with the name as date eg. DD MM YYYY & mark it as blocked
Anyone know if an app. exists that can do this ?
or
Anyone interested in deving this app. for me ?
BTW - I have 40+ years experience programming in Assembler, C, Basic etc. & I built Palm apps. in C & built a couple of droid apps approx. 5 years ago with Phone Gap. Buy, not wanting to have to setup the environment for a simple droid app. dev.

how to create NFC tag to open Yale real living lock

I seen a video on youtube where someone had an NFC tag that opened his smart lock when he touched it with his n5. Can anyone give me directions or link to where I can find how to do this? Thanks
Could I somehow use tasker to control my revolv automation to open it?
I've seen this video where somebody uses a Samsung Galaxy S4.
I believe it indeed uses Tasker (if you look closely you can see that it is installed on the phone) to trigger (using Locale NFC Plugin) the phone to communicate with a Z-Wave hub such as Vera (with the AutoVera plugin) to unlock the door.
It doesn't look like an equivalent Tasker plugin is available with the Revolv hub and it can't be done directly yet as I've been told that Yale's NFC enabled dead bolt availability has been delayed. As of now I believe you can only purchase dead bolts from the Real Living series with a Z-Wave radio module. Are expected:
ZigBee radios (about to become available)
NFC (2014/12)
Bluetooth Low Energy (Q1 2015)
Once available NFC and BLE enabled dead bolts should work with ASSA ABLOY's Seos Mobile Access system (available on Google play).

Depstech Endoscope

I bought a endoscope to attach to my Galaxy S8+ in order to take photos in swimming pools underwater. The directions for Android use says, connect with micro USB, I purchased the IC21 model IZCB-A12. It states the endoscope only works with Android 4.4+, and the phone needs to support OTG and UVC. I am not certain this phone meets these requirements. Is anyone familiar with these types of cameras?
I think the first thing I'd check is with the manufacturer, to see if the gadget is compatible with Android 7/8.
Android 4 is a while back, and if they have not updated their software, could be a good chance it will not work.
Software 4.4+
I assumed when the manufacturer said 4.4+ OS they meant 4.4 or more/higher...I am confused.
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I assumed when the manufacturer said 4.4+ OS they meant 4.4 or more/higher...I am confused.
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When they put out their app, they had it designed at the 4.4+ level (minimum), which apparently was the current OS, or they had it back compatible. Unless you can find that it is, for certain, compatible with (even) the most recent Android OS's, 7 and or 8, you might be surprised that it is not compatible. A fair of number of apps, particularly those that need access to Android root file systems, have had to update as there have been a number of security and other internal updates since 4.4. Some authors just don't care after so long, and have not or will not update.
Write the author or check the publish date/date app might have been finalized/version date if you can get into the app running file contents/properties.
I'd hit up the author first. May save you some time.
If that's GTG, then I'd think it's likely a cable issue/bad unit.
Maybe hunt around for another, older device, meeting 4.4 or close, you can test on.
Software 4.4+
Thank you! I will see if I can contact the manufacturer. I tried to follow a link through their app on my phone and I get an error message. I also tried using another OTG app, as was recommended by someone else encountering problems...that app did not work either. They said the Depstech app worked after using another app first. I would like to get this working or find one t hat will work.
Info from Amazon about this product
Convertible USB or Micro USB design, no need for extra adapter, convenient to use on Windows XP/7/8/10 & Macbook OS computer or OTG Android device(How to Check OTG? Download free app"USB OTG Checker") & UVC compatible Android 4.4+ system smartphone,like Samsung S3, S4, S5 etc. For Android phone, please download"CameraFi" or Depstech Camera APP from Google Play.
Super Hi-Vision 2MP CMOS sensor camera and Unique Blue LED Technology, capture clear snapshot images and quality videos at a close range with resolution up to 1600 x 1200 and improve image brightness and clarity in dark condition.
Premium Camera Chip: Adopting the second generation chip at 30fps, which is best for acquiring the smoothest video and image, and this is a great advantage over the other products at 10fps on the marketplace.
IP67 Waterproof camera probe with 0.33inch diameter, easy to explore hard-to-reach or hard-to-see areas such as underwater pipe, car engine, vent pipe etc.
Armed with a bendable semi-rigid cable that can bend and hold it's shape to access a wide variety of confined place, such as curved holes or pipes. Not support Android 7.0+, iPhone IOS systems, Windows Phone, Blackberry, Motorola, LG, Galaxy S8, Google Pixel Smartphone. (THE LAST SENTENCE SAYS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH GALAXY S8! I WILL TRY ON AN OLDER PHONE OR RETURN THE CAMERA...THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP)
Check it's function on your Windows PC and or Mac. At least you'd know if it's functioning correctly.
Thank you...item will be returned
I am sending it back, because I need something that will work outside. I thought I could use it with my phone.

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