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I'm running the ATT G4 H810 variant and I see everyone with versions of the firmware up to o. I'm on H81010b. When I tell the device to upgrade it tells me that my device is up to date. However, I've read people saying that devices like this, for example the G3, can only upgrade on the carrier they were intended for use on. I'm using mine on Cricket, and it is NOT unlocked, as Cricket is owned by ATT. So I'm wondering if I need to put in one of my kids ATT SIM's into it to get the update? Does that sound correct? Yes? Well then WHY, when I got a G3 ATT variant (D810) did the phone automatically upgrade itself to Lollipop from Kitkat even though I was only using it on Cricket? AFAIK both of these phones are carrier locked...
Also is there any reason I should want to update from H81010b? What are the advantages of each one? I see a lot of people saying that they DO NOT want to update so I"m at a loss for understanding the pros and cons of possibly updating my G4.
from what i've gathered the updates are mostly stagefright fixes.
Also if you haven't taken an OTA and you're interested in an unlocked bootloader then you're one of the lucky few who may be able to use the Unofficial Bootloader Unlock that's said to be coming.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/unlock-unofficial-bootloader-unlock-t3222737
I want to stick with an S4 for now but I'd like to run non-touchwiz roms like cyanogenmod. To get around the locked bootloader issue I'm thinking of just buying a t-mobile SGH-M919 unlocked s4 (and possibly selling my at&t s4). I would then install cyanogenmod and use it with at&t. Will I run into any problems or is this a workable approach? Anything I need to be aware of at any step of the process?
Anyone? Just hoping for a little reassurance that my understanding is right before shelling out some cash for another phone.
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Anyone? Just hoping for a little reassurance that my understanding is right before shelling out some cash for another phone.
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This should be in the Q&A section, not general.
Make sure the phone you purchase has been unlocked from T-Mobile or you won't be able to use it.
A T-Mobile device is 100% compatible with AT&T as far as which bands are supported. You shouldn't run into any issues. Just make sure you only flash firmware / bootloaders / basebands for your T-Mobile model and don't pull anything from the AT&T section.
For LTE to work you will need to call AT&T support and give them the IMEI from the phone.
I would highly recommend that you upgrade to an S5, seeing as you are replacing your phone anyway. It's not that big of a price jump.
Remember XDA has a phone buying/selling website (Swappa) and it's very good. I've purchased three phones this way.
Also, custom ROMs are not all they're cracked up to be. I ran custom ROMs for a long time, but here recently I've gone back to stock and it's just so much more stable. It's nice not having to troubleshoot issues or deal with problems all the time. Stock just works. Root it if you want, maybe install the GPE rom (yes you can still run several roms even with a locked bootloader, you just have to keep the stock kernel) and keep your S4. Switching to another S4 is a waste of money.
Hello all! I am a Verizon customer wanting an S7, but one of my major hobbies is cell site hunting and testing the network. The engineering mode gives me crucial information about the network, and it's accessible on the Samsung Galaxy's by dialing *#0011#. The problem is Verizon has been blocking this mode from their variants for the last several years, and the GS7 is no different. My current phone, the GS6, is rooted, and I was able to re-enable the engineering mode. But like I said, I am wanting the S7 if possible, mainly for the increased storage.
So at this point, I think I have two options.
A - purchase the VZW variant and hope for root
or
B - find any other variant that will work on Verizon
I only need root if it's the VZW variant because these screens aren't blocked by any other carrier. With that being said, does anyone know of any other variant besides the G930V that will work on Verizon? The main one I can think of right off the bat is the US Cellular model, but living in FL I do not have a store near me, and I cannot buy the phone anyway since they don't service my zip code. I have read that the international versions do not support CDMA, but I don't know what kind of modding I could do since they do have root- whether radios could be flashed or not. Truth be told, I would be a-ok with an LTE-only phone. I was hoping the T-Mobile model would be an avenue, but it's locked down too.
I know it's a complicated order, but if anyone has any tips or suggestions, I would love to hear them!
Thank you!
Just like an Agatha Christie novel....and then there was only the one H918 left without oreo.
Welp,
Folks I'm trying out a refurb v30 converted to a US998. May be worth looking into if you want an unlocked bootloader and oreo. So far i haven't had any of the no signal and gps issues I had with H918 either. The overall development scene for that phone though is not as good as v20 and i'm going to miss the regular security patches from lineage.
regards!
I jumped ship to the V30 as well. I am still going to help out with the V20, and G6, and my V20 is still my go to phone if I know I am going to be out and need lots of battery.
Another reason I jumped ship is the fact that the V20 will more than likely never have Treble support. Not from a lack of trying, from the simple fact that some things MUST be in /system and that just doesn't work when a GSI expects things in /vendor.
We could hack it, but it just isn't worth it. The V30 might not have shipped with Treble support, but LG did things a little differently, so it is fairly easy to shoe-horn in Treble.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
I jumped ship to the V30 as well. I am still going to help out with the V20, and G6, and my V20 is still my go to phone if I know I am going to be out and need lots of battery.
Another reason I jumped ship is the fact that the V20 will more than likely never have Treble support. Not from a lack of trying, from the simple fact that some things MUST be in /system and that just doesn't work when a GSI expects things in /vendor.
We could hack it, but it just isn't worth it. The V30 might not have shipped with Treble support, but LG did things a little differently, so it is fairly easy to shoe-horn in Treble.
-- Brian
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Well let me be the first to say thank you for all the support with the v20...and the V10 before it Brian. Was a samsung diehard ever since tmobile for their first galaxy and that junk sk4g but when the s6 had no removable battery or expandable storage i needed to find a change. You have made both of these overpriced, under supported LG phones servicable for myself and i would guess most everyone that invested in the V series. My new replacement V20 has had a junk screen since day 1 and it is completely unresponsive to touch in twrp so im done with the V20. I may be making that V30 jump with you in the next week or two. Im sure a year from now we will be right back here talkin lack of android pie for the tmo v30 lol
GSI Android Pie images already work fairly well on the V30.
With Treble and root, you don't need the OEM anymore.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
GSI Android Pie images already work fairly well on the V30.
With Treble and root, you don't need the OEM anymore.
-- Brian
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Which variant is the best to grab for Root and Rom support? (I have T-Mobile btw)
So, I ordered an H918 from an eBay seller a few days ago, it'll be here mid-next week. Yeah, I know, it's older but dammit it's the removable battery and other aspects that still make it a great device for someone like me. Sure, the audio is fantastic, the screen should be OK - the one I bought was stated as having HEAVY FAIR USAGE so I expect the body of it to be pretty banged up in terms of cosmetic issues, dents, scratches. They didn't say what the condition of the screen/display glass is so I can only hope, they simply say it has signs of very heavy usage and that it's 100% functional so I'll find out soon enough - they do have a 30 day return window (15% restocking fee unless it's defective which of course it would be if I decide to return it <hint, hint>).
Anyway, so I've spent the past 2-3 days reading up as much as I can before I get into this. I grabbed the 10p KDZ file for safe keeping (I really wish the people sharing such files would use MD5/SHA1 checksums and post those along with the links to the files so we can check to make sure things are fine after the download of multi-gigabyte sized files, but that's another thread altogether). Been reading up on all the ins and outs with the H918, the rooting potential for Nougat builds, yes I know Oreo has no root yet and I just read yesterday someone chatted with T-Mobile or LG support and were told the H918 should be getting Oreo official in the next week or so (meaning the very end of September). I've never used a device with Oreo on it so far so I'm not even sure I'll want it.
I've been reading reports from some folks with Oreo on other variants saying it turned their V20 into an almost new different device, and of course other people saying it's crap and ruined their device so there's no way to know for sure till the H918 gets it - it's a given that the H918 will get Oreo, but for now it's still the waiting game from T-Mobile.
As long as the one I ordered works I'm good I suppose. I don't even care all that much about rooting except for one or two things, but I was interested in putting LineageOS on it at least for testing purposes so I've been reading up on all that as well (meaning 14.1 as again I don't have any experience with Oreo so far and probably not all that interested).
I ordered a half-decent camo styled case for it (rip off Slim Armor it looks like), screen protectors (presuming the glass isn't damaged so badly that a protector won't bubble up or just look terrible on it), and a new battery (no idea what the manufacturing date on it will be till it gets here). I have a Quick Charger available but I still don't like doing that to batteries so I'll just keep using my trusty Samsung 2A charger and do it the slow way. I'd love to get the LG battery cradle and order another battery but the pricing on that simple piece of white plastic is utterly ridiculous so, nope, not gonna do it.
As I'm late to the V20 party I suppose I'll say I'm grateful to those that have provided support up to this point with keeping it alive, I'll also say I'm sad that many of them, including runningnak3d seem to be moving on to newer more capable devices (can't say I blame them considering LG being so damned slow - 2 years of Nougat and then Oreo at EOL for the V20, geezus, that's pretty damned bad to be honest).
I hope I'll be able to make something good out of this device. The days of getting custom ROMs like LineageOS on carrier hardware is getting worse all the time. I just wish I had a device like a V20 - with all the features it has, the removable battery, microSD, good/great camera (I still say the camera assembly in the G4 is the best ever but that's just me), outstanding audio features, etc - that allowed for easy custom ROMs like LineageOS or whatever without having to jump through all the hoops.
If OnePlus would make a device with a removable battery and a microSD slot, I'd be all over it day one (and I've never purchased a new smartphone, I always buy used), but of course they'll never ever do such a smart thing unfortunately.
My hope is that I can get LineageOS 14.1 on it working smoothly with a decent kernel that gives me some more capable control over things, while still being as close to 100% functional as possible without any major hassles or problems. If I can do that I'm good. I was never a big huge fan of the second screen (had a V10 for a while as well and kept it turned off), nor a big huge fan of the 32-bit DAC either. I did appreciate the AOP mics for live recording, however, so I'd guess those are still functional with LOS but I guess I'll find out. My ears aren't what they used to be and since I transcoded my entire 2300+ CD collection to Opus 128 Kbps a few years ago, that's good enough for me.
Battery life will be a concern I suppose, but I owned a Samsung Galaxy S7 Active a few years back, Snapdragon 820 powered, and I was getting just shy of 2 full days of battery life with how I use my devices. I know some folks say the V20 is fantastic in that respect and just as many say it sucks so again I'll find out when I get the device and get started with it. I can't imagine it's that bad with a custom kernel and some of the thermal configuration adjustments - and yes I do plan to redo the thermal paste as well, that's near the top of the to-do list.
Anyway, too long post coming to a close: I'll see what happens. I owned a Sprint V20 for a short period of time just over a year ago, and I was able to use it with T-Mobile (my carrier of choice) without many issues but of course it being so tightly locked down (at that time) I didn't choose to keep it. The H918 offers at least more potential for experimenting so again, thanks to those of you that have done things in terms of development to make it better whenever possible.
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Which variant is the best to grab for Root and Rom support? (I have T-Mobile btw)
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All V30s are currently rootable, however, if they increment ARB then that will go away. The H932 will stay rootable unless they make massive changes to the bootloader (that is the TMO variant).
As always, your safest bet is to get an unlocked model (US998), but if you want band 71 (600Mhz) on TMO, then you have to get an H932.
-- Brian
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My hope is that I can get LineageOS 14.1 on it working smoothly with a decent kernel that gives me some more capable control over things, while still being as close to 100% functional as possible without any major hassles or problems. If I can do that I'm good. I was never a big huge fan of the second screen (had a V10 for a while as well and kept it turned off), nor a big huge fan of the 32-bit DAC either. I did appreciate the AOP mics for live recording, however, so I'd guess those are still functional with LOS but I guess I'll find out. My ears aren't what they used to be and since I transcoded my entire 2300+ CD collection to Opus 128 Kbps a few years ago, that's good enough for me.
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I would recommend you stick with rooted stock. I never got a decent camera working with lineage 14.1, had bluetooth problems with disappearing bluetooth mac, and signal and gps issues to just name a few. Although going back to stock fixed all of these (except for at&t cell signal). The US998 LG v30 is a far better phone (band 30 and 71 support will always be a problem on the non-carrier phones apparently).
Also be aware that the current 14.1 lineage stock is only for radios BEFORE 10p or ARB0. It does not work on ARB1. I think at ARB1 your only option is the lineage 15 unofficial rom.
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As always, your safest bet is to get an unlocked model (US998), but if you want band 71 (600Mhz) on TMO, then you have to get an H932.
-- Brian
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Doesn't the unlocked model have the proper antenna for band 71? So is this just a software issue. I was looking into getting a V30 and I thought I read a thread in the V30 forums that it works with a T-Mobile SIM? You would know better than I would so If you don't mind clarifying this if you could I would appreciate it as I'm still interested in a V30 and am on TMobile and band 71 would be a buying decision for me.
Without a US998 to run some tests, I can't say for sure, but I believe the modem firmware is the limiting factor, and you can't flash H932 modem on the US998 due to the different RSA key.
-- Brian
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Doesn't the unlocked model have the proper antenna for band 71? So is this just a software issue. I was looking into getting a V30 and I thought I read a thread in the V30 forums that it works with a T-Mobile SIM? You would know better than I would so If you don't mind clarifying this if you could I would appreciate it as I'm still interested in a V30 and am on TMobile and band 71 would be a buying decision for me.
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The US998 V30 that everyone including me is using does not have band 30 or 71. Both are disabled through the lack of the correct modem firmware. The tmobile variants all use different rsa keys and have been much more difficult to root or get roms for, but they would then have the right radio band enabled for tmobile. Within the last few days there has been an root and bootloader unlock method for the h932. Apparently its difficult and risky right now.
I was using the h918 on at&t because it was already bootloader unlocked via fastboot, but the signal was horrible on at&t.
For the v30, the options are 1) use the carrier phone H932 and deal with the bootloader unlock issues or 2) get the unlocked US998 and deal with bands missing band 30 for att and 71 for tmobile
For the v20, the H918 was the last of its kind with unlocked bootloader, removable battery, sdcard support, and the right radios for tmobile. You just had to deal with lack of updates from the carrier...ie still no oreo even though att/verizon/sprint varriants all have oreo now. And the different RSA keys have prevented cross flashing of roms.
Hope this helps
Rooting the H932 is as safe as rooting the H918 now...
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
All V30s are currently rootable, however, if they increment ARB then that will go away. The H932 will stay rootable unless they make massive changes to the bootloader (that is the TMO variant).
As always, your safest bet is to get an unlocked model (US998), but if you want band 71 (600Mhz) on TMO, then you have to get an H932.
-- Brian
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What's different on the Sprint v30 ? ARB 0?
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What's different on the Sprint v30 ? ARB 0?
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If you mean why can the Sprint V30 be rooted and not the Sprint V20? ARB is definitely part of it...
There was a massive hole found in the Oreo abl (aboot) on the V30 that allowed them to flash a bogus unlock.bin file to unlock their bootloader if they flashed the US998 abl.
Just like the V20, if any of the carriers decide to increment ARB, that hole goes away. It appears that they are allowing people that unlocked their bootloader to keep the unlock even after patching it, but if ARB is incremented and you aren't already rooted, then you won't be able to rollback to the version that has the exploit.
So, my advice stands. If you are going to buy a V30, either get the US998, or get an H932. It is up in the air as to how long the others will be rootable, so if you had to send your phone back for a repair, and they ship it back with patched firmware that had ARB incremented, you are boned.
-- Brian
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If you mean why can the Sprint V30 be rooted and not the Sprint V20? ARB is definitely part of it...
There was a massive hole found in the Oreo abl (aboot) on the V30 that allowed them to flash a bogus unlock.bin file to unlock their bootloader if they flashed the US998 abl.
Just like the V20, if any of the carriers decide to increment ARB, that hole goes away. It appears that they are allowing people that unlocked their bootloader to keep the unlock even after patching it, but if ARB is incremented and you aren't already rooted, then you won't be able to rollback to the version that has the exploit.
So, my advice stands. If you are going to buy a V30, either get the US998, or get an H932. It is up in the air as to how long the others will be rootable, so if you had to send your phone back for a repair, and they ship it back with patched firmware that had ARB incremented, you are boned.
-- Brian
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Hahah where theres a will theres (sometimes) a way. Well unintentional or not that's pretty sweet. Sucks for people finding out after the fact though. I just figure they should allow people to unlock but sign some release saying you accept xyz if something bad happens. Win win in my book.
Yeah that's what happened to me. I did a test flash for Alpha and bricked my v20. Got it back and had from LG and it was ZVD. I'm looking at my options now.
I really wish OnePlus or another owner-friendly device maker would make a device I want. Treble helps, and hopefully someone will make something like that. No more sealed batteries for me. I would probably still be running my Nexus 6 if it were not for that. Though it was getting a bit slow toward the end. I could replace the battery, but it's tough to find good replacement batteries for these sealed units. With the V20, some reputable battery makers have models available and it's easy to swap them should I get a bad one. I don't have to heat up the glue to open the thing.
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Rooting the H932 is as safe as rooting the H918 now...
-- Brian
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Unless you are on tmobile and only plan on ever using tmobile, i wouldn't by another tmobile phone. They have become impossible to sim unlock and they used different encryption keys making them difficult to work with. And if I'm not mistaken they were the only carrier to increment to arb1 causing even more headaches with rom flashing...and what started this whole post. The v20 h918 still does not have oreo. The last one possibly. Probably because they locked down the phone so much with different rsa keys and radios that they can't use the stock roms that lg puts out?
Alibaba0101 said:
Unless you are on tmobile and only plan on ever using tmobile, i wouldn't by another tmobile phone. They have become impossible to sim unlock and they used different encryption keys making them difficult to work with.
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Yeah I was hoping there was a way to use the band 71 on the unlocked phones but how are they impossible to sim unlock? All I did was run the unlock app that comes with the TMobile firmware
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Yeah I was hoping there was a way to use the band 71 on the unlocked phones but how are they impossible to sim unlock? All I did was run the unlock app that comes with the TMobile firmware
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If you want to get a phone that supports band 71, then most likely you are already on tmobile and can have tmobile sim unlock the phone for your before you root it or unlock the bootloader.
If you don't have a tmobile account, the problem is that there is currently no vendor that supports sim unlocking tmobile phones that use the tmobile unlock app. Tmobile has switched to using their own unlock app which only works with tmobile customers.
There are several places that will SIM unlock T-Mobile phones for $10.00 or less. If I can get enough EFS dumps of before and after I will eventually be able to figure out how they do it.
In the meantime, I think $10 to have your phone unlocked is not unreasonable. I have tested two separate services, and they both worked flawlessly. One was used on the V20, and one on the V30.
-- Brian
looking for "before-i-buy" details on the different versions, for using on T-mobile
cant seem to find exact details on in2013 / in2017 / in2020 / in2025 but i have (obviously) seen those references around while trying to research the different versions
i presume 2 of those 4 versions are international and the others USA, please do correct me if i'm wrong.... and based on the descriptions from people who are "selling" the Oneplus 8 phone(s) all of these appear to be T-mobile compatible
i've seen that there are both locked and unlocked versions of the USA models.... and i also have easy access to some unlocked international models locally from 3rd parties.... which leads me to some questions:
Question #1
is the T-mobile OTA blacklisting for bootloader unlocking limited to sprint/t-mobile models, or would an SIM-Unlocked USA model also end up blacklisted for bootloader unlocking?
Question #2
is unlocked International a bad idea for usage on USA T-mobile due to availability of bands?
appears 4g and 5g would be accessible, but i don't know to what extent the coverage would be hindered (which i've noticed can be anywhere from non existent to severe cell frequency mismatch between brands / regions / models)
Question #3
am i looking at any kind of "technical difficulties" outside of OTA block, by bootloader unlocking on OnePlus? i am very new to the brand, coming from Samsung in the era before they were locked by default :silly:
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cant seem to find exact details on in2013 / in2017 / in2020 / in2025 but i have (obviously) seen those references around while trying to research the different versions
i presume 2 of those 4 versions are international and the others USA, please do correct me if i'm wrong.... and based on the descriptions from people who are "selling" the Oneplus 8 phone(s) all of these appear to be T-mobile compatible
i've seen that there are both locked and unlocked versions of the USA models.... and i also have easy access to some unlocked international models locally from 3rd parties.... which leads me to some questions:
Question #1
is the T-mobile OTA blacklisting for bootloader unlocking limited to sprint/t-mobile models, or would an SIM-Unlocked USA model also end up blacklisted for bootloader unlocking?
Question #2
is unlocked International a bad idea for usage on USA T-mobile due to availability of bands?
appears 4g and 5g would be accessible, but i don't know to what extent the coverage would be hindered (which i've noticed can be anywhere from non existent to severe cell frequency mismatch between brands / regions / models)
Question #3
am i looking at any kind of "technical difficulties" outside of OTA block, by bootloader unlocking on OnePlus? i am very new to the brand, coming from Samsung in the era before they were locked by default :silly:
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Hi,
First of all, there are 4 versions of the OP8 :
IN2010 (China) IN2013 (EU) IN2015 (US) IN2011 (India)
The OP8 Prois the same, but with IN202_ instead of IN201_
There are also brand specific version: Verizon and T-Mobile. Those version are a pain (as I heard) to update even by the official version. There are some workaround to SIM unlock those, but they'll still be a pain to update and root. If you succeed in rooting that you'll be blacklisted for OTAs on those versions.
The USA version is different, not a pain to root or to OTA update, you keep OTA when rooting. In short that's the phone OP intended you to use. It's 5G, but not millimeter waves or things like that. I couldn't test 5G yet since I don't live in America, you have to scroll through the OP8 forums to find your answer.
And there is no "international version". Don't be fooled, International version is a way to lure buyers in buying chinese version but flashed with OxygenOS global. You'll buy the chinese version (with potential band mismatch), it's cheaper but you'll have issues with G-Pay and 5G (even 4G in some countries).
So #1: Carriers phone not only blacklist you when unlocking bootloader, they try to make it impossible for you to unlock it. Idk if it's the same with unlocked SIM (but I don't think so)
#2: Since international is in fact chinese with global software (and not chinese specific) I highly recommend you not to buy it (even though the price looks sexy)
#3: Unlocking bootloader requires you to wipe your phone, otherwise no issues if you follow the instructions. If you flash a ROM or install magisk modules then the stability of your phone depends on the dev's work and not the OEM anymore.
I might be wrong with the Carrier Devices banning unlocking bootloader since I'm not from America so search more on the internet.
Hope this helped, have a good day :good:
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Hi,
IN2010 (China) IN2013 (EU) IN2015 (US) IN2011 (India)
The OP8 Prois the same, but with IN202_ instead of IN201_
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there is definitely an IN2017, it shows on phonearena and gsmarena spec pages, but in the USA each carrier has a designated model number within a same phone model (like 900P 900T 900V) so that might be what's going on with IN2015 versus IN2017 (i'm guessing GSM model versus CDMA model)
There are also brand specific version: Verizon and T-Mobile. Those version are a pain (as I heard) to update even by the official version. There are some workaround to SIM unlock those, but they'll still be a pain to update and root. If you succeed in rooting that you'll be blacklisted for OTAs on those versions.
The USA version is different, not a pain to root or to OTA update, you keep OTA when rooting. In short that's the phone OP intended you to use. It's 5G, but not millimeter waves or things like that. I couldn't test 5G yet since I don't live in America, you have to scroll through the OP8 forums to find your answer.
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this part through me off a little because Verizon and T-mobile are both USA versions lol... did you mean to say something different or am i misunderstanding?
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there is definitely an IN2017, it shows on phonearena and gsmarena spec pages, but in the USA each carrier has a designated model number within a same phone model (like 900P 900T 900V) so that might be what's going on with IN2015 versus IN2017 (i'm guessing GSM model versus CDMA model)
this part through me off a little because Verizon and T-mobile are both USA versions lol... did you mean to say something different or am i misunderstanding?
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You're right, I forgot to put it, IN2017 is the CDMA.
And CDMA are modified versions of the IN2015. That's why you can't use the same cases for CDMA and GSM versions. They added in the phone, the hardware to make their 5G technology work. So CDMA and GSM technically are all American (since they're located there), but they're different, especially for OTA. It's not OP that provides updates for CDMA phones, that's T-Mobile or other carriers, and I heard people here complaining the updates are slow to be available. I don't even know if Android 11 is available for them yet.
That's why I advices you to buy the IN2015
There is a MSM tool for t-mobile that is up to date with the latest firmware, 10.5.20.
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There is a MSM tool for t-mobile that is up to date with the latest firmware, 10.5.20.
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i've always been a samsung guy, i dont know if you're familiar with samsung tools, but, based on what i researched last night, it sounds like MSM is effectively "odin" right?
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i've always been a samsung guy, i dont know if you're familiar with samsung tools, but, based on what i researched last night, it sounds like MSM is effectively "odin" right?
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It's kinda like odin, except it's better. MSM can fix just about anything except a hard brick.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8/how-to/op8-unbrick-tool-to-restore-device-to-t4093043
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It's kinda like odin, except it's better. MSM can fix just about anything except a hard brick.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8/how-to/op8-unbrick-tool-to-restore-device-to-t4093043
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sounds wonderful to me i'm honing in on the decision to buy, just having a hard time finding non-retail prices, other than Swappa
would you recommend getting the T-mobile and converting (which effectively means unlocking? lol) or does that come with caveats avoidable by just buying one already unlocked?
it sounds like there's no difference but ughh... idk i'm in information overload mode trying to hit the ground running lol
If it was up to me, I would just buy the pro model if you can afford that. I ended up buying through tmobile to finance mine and had my device sim unlocked so I can unlock the bootloader.
I have IN2017 on Tmobile and would recommend it. The Tmobile vendor rom works better on their network for obvious reasons, for example 5G standalone doesn't currently work on the Global OOS (oxygen OS) roms.
To answer your specific concerns:
#1 I've never heard of Tmobile blacklisting anyone for unlocking or rooting. Just make sure the imei is good if you buy used. Use a legit site like Swappa.
#2 Yes avoid the "international". Stick to IN2015 (Global) or IN2017 for use in the USA.
#3 Bootloader unlock on the IN2017 requires a clean esn/imei. You fill out a form and Tmobile gives you the unlock code a week later.
After bootloader unlock you can easily root with Magisk or flash pretty much anything. On my 2017 I've ran the tmobile rom, OOS10, OOS11, and gone back and forth.
sx10 said:
#3 Bootloader unlock on the IN2017 requires a clean esn/imei. You fill out a form and Tmobile gives you the unlock code a week later.
After bootloader unlock you can easily root with Magisk or flash pretty much anything. On my 2017 I've ran the tmobile rom, OOS10, OOS11, and gone back and forth.
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i have a feeling if i walk into a T mobile store and ask them for a bootloader unlock code form, they're going to look at me like i have an alien doing a handstand on my shoulders...
havent met a single employee yet who could figure out why putting a T mobile sim in my old Sprint phone is a bad proposal for coverage lol my hopes are pretty low with them.
could you tell me a little more about who / where / how to acquire the form from?
Raiz said:
Hi,
First of all, there are 4 versions of the OP8 :
IN2010 (China) IN2013 (EU) IN2015 (US) IN2011 (India)
The OP8 Prois the same, but with IN202_ instead of IN201_
There are also brand specific version: Verizon and T-Mobile. Those version are a pain (as I heard) to update even by the official version. There are some workaround to SIM unlock those, but they'll still be a pain to update and root. If you succeed in rooting that you'll be blacklisted for OTAs on those versions.
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They say you won't get updates, but my phone has wanted to update for over a week now. Maybe security updates aren't affected? I have IN2017, unlocked bootloader and rooted.
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Sterist said:
i have a feeling if i walk into a T mobile store and ask them for a bootloader unlock code form, they're going to look at me like i have an alien doing a handstand on my shoulders...
havent met a single employee yet who could figure out why putting a T mobile sim in my old Sprint phone is a bad proposal for coverage lol my hopes are pretty low with them.
could you tell me a little more about who / where / how to acquire the form from?
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https://support.oneplus.com/app/ans...-to-unlock-bootloader-for-oneplus-smart-phone
Sterist said:
i have a feeling if i walk into a T mobile store and ask them for a bootloader unlock code form, they're going to look at me like i have an alien doing a handstand on my shoulders...
havent met a single employee yet who could figure out why putting a T mobile sim in my old Sprint phone is a bad proposal for coverage lol my hopes are pretty low with them.
could you tell me a little more about who / where / how to acquire the form from?
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https://www.oneplus.com/unlock_token
sx10 said:
I have IN2017 on Tmobile and would recommend it. The Tmobile vendor rom works better on their network for obvious reasons, for example 5G standalone doesn't currently work on the Global OOS (oxygen OS) roms.
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yes yes i'm re-quoting the post lol
are you saying that OxygenOS is the global rom? also, can you clarify what is being described by 5G "standalone" ?
just got my IN2017 and it's on oxygenOS 10
it is unlocked and my account is Sprint (and will remain that way) but sprint's system was too slow to reflect that this phone was activated on the account, so the T-mobile store wasn't able to put a T-mobile SIM in it (yet)
...with that said, the phone says 5G is connected and speed tests are.... pretty bad... barely meeting mid tier 4G standards... how can i definitively confirm or deny if i'm on the global rom
Sterist said:
yes yes i'm re-quoting the post lol
are you saying that OxygenOS is the global rom? also, can you clarify what is being described by 5G "standalone" ?
just got my IN2017 and it's on oxygenOS 10
it is unlocked and my account is Sprint (and will remain that way) but sprint's system was too slow to reflect that this phone was activated on the account, so the T-mobile store wasn't able to put a T-mobile SIM in it (yet)
...with that said, the phone says 5G is connected and speed tests are.... pretty bad... barely meeting mid tier 4G standards... how can i definitively confirm or deny if i'm on the global rom
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Bro....
You will need to flash it. It doesn't come preinstalled on Sprint\tmo.
I'm using your exact setup. I too have the Sprint sim in my Tmo OP8
If you are on 10nand want to go to global, there is a thread on here that will take you through the process.
Follow the guide carefully but confidently. It does work and will not brick your phone.
You will convert to global a10... I had issues with cellular signal after converting.
HOWEVER, after upgrading to A11 global rom (local upgrade) everything works perfectly.
I'm on OOS11 Open Beta 3 with sprint sim on the IN2017.
crazynapkinman said:
Bro....
You will need to flash it. It doesn't come preinstalled on Sprint\tmo.
I'm using your exact setup. I too have the Sprint sim in my Tmo OP8
If you are on 10nand want to go to global, there is a thread on here that will take you through the process.
Follow the guide carefully but confidently. It does work and will not brick your phone.
You will convert to global a10... I had issues with cellular signal after converting.
HOWEVER, after upgrading to A11 global rom (local upgrade) everything works perfectly.
I'm on OOS11 Open Beta 3 with sprint sim on the IN2017.
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based on what everyone's said so far about the global rom, i have zero interest in it.... i am merely trying to understand if i am on that rom now as a result of possible shady dealings from the seller on Swappa, based on how the post i re-quoted was worded. it threw me off.
but from the sound of it, i get the feeling OOS is not the global (or at least the version i have installed is as it should be -- stock TMO)
and i'm rapidly falling in love with this thing... it's so &@#%*$^ fast
Sterist said:
based on what everyone's said so far about the global rom, i have zero interest in it.... i am merely trying to understand if i am on that rom now as a result of possible shady dealings from the seller on Swappa, based on how the post i re-quoted was worded. it threw me off.
but from the sound of it, i get the feeling OOS is not the global (or at least the version i have installed is as it should be -- stock TMO)
and i'm rapidly falling in love with this thing... it's so &@#%*$^ fast
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Don't know what you've heard about global but it puts Tmo stock to shame
Simple answer. Buy the phone from oneplus.com. I did and have had no issues at all on T-Mobile. Trust me, with any OnePlus devices, you absolutely want to be able to root right off the bat and install viper. Audio tends to be a big problem with oneplus phones, and only viper seems to solve the issue.
The phone is $600, and a bargain at that price.
mx597turbo said:
Simple answer. Buy the phone from oneplus.com. I did and have had no issues at all on T-Mobile. Trust me, with any OnePlus devices, you absolutely want to be able to root right off the bat and install viper. Audio tends to be a big problem with oneplus phones, and only viper seems to solve the issue.
The phone is $600, and a bargain at that price.
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Also financing from oneplus available
Sterist said:
based on what everyone's said so far about the global rom, i have zero interest in it.... i am merely trying to understand if i am on that rom now as a result of possible shady dealings from the seller on Swappa, based on how the post i re-quoted was worded. it threw me off.
but from the sound of it, i get the feeling OOS is not the global (or at least the version i have installed is as it should be -- stock TMO)
and i'm rapidly falling in love with this thing... it's so &@#%*$^ fast
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Just look at the version on the about phone screen. The TMobile software builds end in IN55CB (latest is 10.5.22.IN55CB), and the global roms end in IN21AA.
About the 5g standalone, that means you can connect to the 5g signals alone. This only works on the Tmobile rom right now. You'll see NR-SA in apps like signalcheck or network signal guru. The alternative is NSA (non-standalone) 5g where the phone has to be connected to a 4g signal at the same time for 5g to work. This gives you 5g speed but with higher latency and it uses more battery. It's just like when Sprint 4g came out but early phones needed to stay connected to the 1x signal as well.