I'm running the ATT G4 H810 variant and I see everyone with versions of the firmware up to o. I'm on H81010b. When I tell the device to upgrade it tells me that my device is up to date. However, I've read people saying that devices like this, for example the G3, can only upgrade on the carrier they were intended for use on. I'm using mine on Cricket, and it is NOT unlocked, as Cricket is owned by ATT. So I'm wondering if I need to put in one of my kids ATT SIM's into it to get the update? Does that sound correct? Yes? Well then WHY, when I got a G3 ATT variant (D810) did the phone automatically upgrade itself to Lollipop from Kitkat even though I was only using it on Cricket? AFAIK both of these phones are carrier locked...
Also is there any reason I should want to update from H81010b? What are the advantages of each one? I see a lot of people saying that they DO NOT want to update so I"m at a loss for understanding the pros and cons of possibly updating my G4.
from what i've gathered the updates are mostly stagefright fixes.
Also if you haven't taken an OTA and you're interested in an unlocked bootloader then you're one of the lucky few who may be able to use the Unofficial Bootloader Unlock that's said to be coming.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/unlock-unofficial-bootloader-unlock-t3222737
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So im using a tmobile sim on the SM-N915V and I want to update to 5.1.1 from 5.0.1. I cant do it through the phone since it tries to connect to verizon servers (i guess?). So can someone point me to the right direction? Do I have to download the image and flash through odin? Any help is appreciated, thanks!
If your bootloader isn't locked, you'll need to flash T-Mobile's firmware. If you're still on 5.0.1 then you should be able to flash. AT&T and Verizon started locking bootloaders with 5.1.1.
DO NOT FLASH VERIZON'S 5.1.1 UPDATE!!!! IT WILL IRREPARABLY DAMAGE YOUR PHONE!
I went through the exact same thing when I switched to T-Mobile from AT&T. AT&T and Verizon both locked their bootloaders with 5.1.1 so updating the firmware is physically impossible for anyone who switches carriers. AT&T told me that since I switched to T-Mobile, OTA updates will no longer work on their permanently branded devices and I need to go to Best Buy to update the firmware....for the life of the phone! To add insult to injury, Best Buy can only update AT&T's firmware. Any branded device with a locked bootloader can NEVER switch to a new carriers firmware.
You should never buy a phone from AT&T or Verizon. Your extremely expensive device will have no resale value and the potential buyer would need to be with that carrier...which also limits who you can sell it to. Only buy phones from Sprint, T-Mobile, or unbranded.
Dont bash me I know this might come off as a ridiculous question to some but I have paid off my device through t-mobile and they unlocked it for me. Does this allow me to have more options with roms/etc.? I'm not quite sure what the unlock truly does for me other than I suppose I can take it to other carriers. However, does this include cdma carriers like sprint or just gsm? And I assume h850 roms would still be a bad idea correct? Any help or insight is greatly appreciated, Thanks!
This just means you can use your G5 with other carriers instead of just being locked to T-Mobile.
The unlock will last through wipes and ROM upgrades also, which is good to know. A different partition in the phone is used to trip the unlock which is not altered by system updates/wipes.
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Dont bash me I know this might come off as a ridiculous question to some but I have paid off my device through t-mobile and they unlocked it for me. Does this allow me to have more options with roms/etc.? I'm not quite sure what the unlock truly does for me other than I suppose I can take it to other carriers. However, does this include cdma carriers like sprint or just gsm? And I assume h850 roms would still be a bad idea correct? Any help or insight is greatly appreciated, Thanks!
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The SIM unlock means you can use it an any other GSM/WCDMA carrier (AT&T as well as some of the smaller ones like Cricket). You can not use it on CDMA carriers like Sprint or Verizon because the chips are fused to only allow GSM/WCDMA technologies. Sprint and Verizon use a CDMA fused chip and you can't us them on AT&T and T-Mobile, etc. There are a couple of types of "unlock". SIM unlock like you have, and bootloader unlock are most important. If you now unlock the bootloader you can root the device and then load custom ROMs to it. You can load H850 roms if it's been ported to H830 which there aren't any right now but will be soon. There is the fluence rom for H830 that you can load. I hope this helps.
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Dont bash me I know this might come off as a ridiculous question to some but I have paid off my device through t-mobile and they unlocked it for me. Does this allow me to have more options with roms/etc.? I'm not quite sure what the unlock truly does for me other than I suppose I can take it to other carriers. However, does this include cdma carriers like sprint or just gsm? And I assume h850 roms would still be a bad idea correct? Any help or insight is greatly appreciated, Thanks!
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adding on to everyone else, I have seen some phones go from VZW to TMO but there were so many issues with these devices it was a YMMV situation. The unlock through TMO is a carrier unlock, not a bootloader unlock. Your phone is worth more on craigslist/ebay now since it's unlocked at least.
Thanks for all the useful info. Been flashing and rooting for years but it's always nice to get assistance from all you smart people lol. Never really knew there was a difference between a bootloader unlock and a Sim unlock so learned something new. Thanks again for the insight!
There is ways to root and load customs Roms on some of the lg g5 models hg850 international version, but also the hg830 T-Mobile model as well now, and I believe there is a process for those who updated to 10d firmware before rooting to be able to do it now as well, so I would go check out the lg g5 fourms for that.
I just heard when the August security patch released on the 930U today two very interesting things. I wanted to see if they were true:
1. All Galaxy S7s released in North America are actually the exact same hardware model, but because of different firmwares not every LTE band or software feature is activated. For example, a Verizon S7 that is listed to supposedly only have CDMA and Bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, and 13 (which is pathetically lame by the way) can be flashed to the 930A software and work perfectly on AT&T.
2. I can flash the 930U software on to my 930T phone and turn my T-Mobile phone into a 930U. I'm still making payments on it and I'm not sure if this would unlock it or not, I don't care, I plan on paying it off and unlocking it through T-Mobile anyway. I'll get White Pages back which T-Mobile took away for their stupid paid service, and I can download the August security patch and from now on get my updates directly from Samsung.
So is this possible for me to do? I'm new at this whole thing. Also, if I did flash my phone into a 930U, will that affect me unlocking it through T-Mobile later on when it's paid off? Thanks for the help.
Akira Takamedo said:
I just heard when the August security patch released on the 930U today two very interesting things. I wanted to see if they were true:
1. All Galaxy S7s released in North America are actually the exact same hardware model, but because of different firmwares not every LTE band or software feature is activated. For example, a Verizon S7 that is listed to supposedly only have CDMA and Bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, and 13 (which is pathetically lame by the way) can be flashed to the 930A software and work perfectly on AT&T.
2. I can flash the 930U software on to my 930T phone and turn my T-Mobile phone into a 930U. I'm still making payments on it and I'm not sure if this would unlock it or not, I don't care, I plan on paying it off and unlocking it through T-Mobile anyway. I'll get White Pages back which T-Mobile took away for their stupid paid service, and I can download the August security patch and from now on get my updates directly from Samsung.
So is this possible for me to do? I'm new at this whole thing. Also, if I did flash my phone into a 930U, will that affect me unlocking it through T-Mobile later on when it's paid off? Thanks for the help.
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If the bootloader is higher than currently on the SM-G930T then it should allow to a flawless flash.
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If the bootloader is higher than currently on the SM-G930T then it should allow to a flawless flash.
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Yes, I just found out yesterday about how the T-Mobile S7 is currently the only version that has a different level bootloader than everyone else. The day had come when Verizon users can now do more with their phones than T-Mobile users, what a shame.
Could a pending upgrade be in store for the 930U firmware so it's possible to do again?
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Yes, I just found out yesterday about how the T-Mobile S7 is currently the only version that has a different level bootloader than everyone else. The day had come when Verizon users can now do more with their phones than T-Mobile users, what a shame.
Could a pending upgrade be in store for the 930U firmware so it's possible to do again?
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Probably maybe. I would say to hold on on updated the TMO S7 in hopes that the SM-G930U gets a bootloader higher that what currently TMO has and allow you to flash. Since it's unlocked then updates maybe 5% faster.
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Probably maybe. I would say to hold on on updated the TMO S7 in hopes that the SM-G930U gets a bootloader higher that what currently TMO has and allow you to flash. Since it's unlocked then updates maybe 5% faster.
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Thank you, I wish I hadn't found out that I could do this only yesterday. I'm still fairly new with the whole concept of flashing software, I know what it is but that's really about it. Hopefully I'll be able to flash the unlocked firmware on here and get those missing features back.
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Thank you, I wish I hadn't found out that I could do this only yesterday. I'm still fairly new with the whole concept of flashing software, I know what it is but that's really about it. Hopefully I'll be able to flash the unlocked firmware on here and get those missing features back.
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Cool.. hope they release one soon.
Hello. I was hoping you guys could answer my questions.
Let's say I bought an originally made for AT&T LG GSM phone (such as the V20) that was then carrier unlocked, and I took it over to MetroPCS (or T-Mobile) and activated it there.
Now let's say Android security updates were produced, or an update from Marshmallow to Oreo was produced.
Would the phone get the update(s) or not get the update(s)? And who creates the updates and pushes you the updates at that point? AT&T, LG, or T-Mobile? Or does Google push the updates when the phone is on wifi?
Furthermore, does, for example, buying an unlocked T-mobile phone assure you that you'll get updates if they exist if you use that phone on MetroPCS? On the same token, would it behoove you to use an unlocked AT&T phone on Cricket, etc?
And lastly, I see carrier unlocked GSM LG V20 phones on ebay that were original locked to a Puerto Rico carrier. Let's say I tried to use that unlocked phone on T-Mobile in NYC. Would there be some sort of GPS block on that phone that would say "hey this phone's not in Puerto Rico!" and then prevent it from updating somehow?
This is all very confusing. Thank you.
So here's this supposedly great and active forum, and not one single person helps me. Thanks guys. Appreciate it lol. I'll show myself out.
Like the title says, is this possible and can it be done without wiping user data? Thanks.
Probably not worth the trouble. Always assume you will lose the data and back it up redundantly.
I thought there be a night and day difference when I got the unlocked N10+ N975U1 vs the AT&T variant N975U. There wasn't. The unlocked version actually had some bloatware not on the AT&T variant
Easiest and safest thing to do is package blocked the carrier bloatware. Verizon does some screwy modes to their devices so getting rid of that be nice. AT&T does not, that surprised me. Some users might like some of the AT&T apps.
It was successful, thank goodness. See my follow up here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/f721u1-firmware-now-available.4484639/
Notice much difference?
Yeah the main stuff are:
1. Rcs with jibe server works now. Before it used att server so it wouldn't connect properly with other users
2. System updates come directly from Samsung instead of att
NguyenHuu said:
Yeah the main stuff are:
1. Rcs with jibe server works now. Before it used att server so it wouldn't connect properly with other users
2. System updates come directly from Samsung instead of att
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Don't use either.
Updates is one of the first things I disabled on my N10+'s. One's on Pie, the other 10, I prefer Pie though. Once Google started rolling out scoped storage I bailed.
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AT&T/Samsung have a nasty habit of screwing up older devices with firmware upgrades. Just had a pair of Buds+ screwed up like that a few months back, now they need the firmware rolled back*. S4+, same deal a few years back, but bootloader was updated too, no rollback.
If an OS is running fast, stable and fulfilling its mission... I let it be.
*I have 2 new pairs of Buds+, they sound identical and like my original pair use to, grrrrr.
Went with them because Samsung's newest release lack the features I want. Rather annoying.
The Buds+ have a 11 hr run time, light, don't fall out and sound good.
Sorry I should've posted my question here, instead of creating a new thread.
I recently purchased a flip 3 and am on a payment plan, tmobile won't unlock my phone unless I pay it off in full. Is it possible to flash the default software of the unlocked model so I can get updates from Samsung and still have my sim work? I'm not switching carriers, do I need the tmobile version of firmware for data/phone to work if the phone isn't unlocked?
boxface said:
Sorry I should've posted my question here, instead of creating a new thread.
I recently purchased a flip 3 and am on a payment plan, tmobile won't unlock my phone unless I pay it off in full. Is it possible to flash the default software of the unlocked model so I can get updates from Samsung and still have my sim work? I'm not switching carriers, do I need the tmobile version of firmware for data/phone to work if the phone isn't unlocked?
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Phone service will still work perfectly fine on U1 firmware, but you may lose lose some carrier-specific features like wifi calling etc. But.... the U1 models don't always necessarily get faster updates than the carrier models. For example, with the most recent update, the carrier model got it 2 weeks before the unlocked model. So if that's your only reason for wanting to change firmware, I'd advise against it.
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Phone service will still work perfectly fine on U1 firmware, but you may lose lose some carrier-specific features like wifi calling etc. But.... the U1 models don't always necessarily get faster updates than the carrier models. For example, with the most recent update, the carrier model got it 2 weeks before the unlocked model. So if that's your only reason for wanting to change firmware, I'd advise against it.
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What I'm concerned about is tmobile eventually stopping the updates way sooner than Samsung. The carriers don't usually update a phone as long as the vendor so to avoid that I would rather not use T-Mobiles version. Thanks for the reply, it was very helpful.
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boxface said:
What I'm concerned about is tmobile eventually stopping the updates way sooner than Samsung. The carriers don't usually update a phone as long as the vendor so to avoid that I would rather not use T-Mobiles version. Thanks for the reply, it was very helpful.
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Incorrect. Every single model's lifespan for updates has always been the exact same, whether U or U1
I downloaded the unlocked firmware via Frija for SM-F711U1 / XAA and flashed it onto my At&t unit using patched Odin. Lost my data since the install didn't work without flashing CSC but booted up and working just fine now. No At&t bootscreen or bloat