So I had & loved my G3.. should have went right to the G4 but I decided to give the Note 5 a try..
I'm curious about the status of current root methods for the G4..
Note 5 for AT&T doesn't seem like it's going to get rooted
So I'm concerned as seems to be the trend if I didn't have the device & root on one single old firmware a method worked on 6 months ago I won't be getting it for the G4 either.
Is that the case or are there still currently functional root methods for this device on most firmware versions ?
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Still rootable as long as it's pre-Marshmellow. As of now Marshmellow is only rootable with an unlocked bootloader which is only possible with the international and T-Mobile versions.
knowing att, they probably wont update the device to marshmellow till about a month before the g5 releases. also, don't purchase one thru att if possible, you can pick up international gsm varients of the g4 for like 400-450 on amazon and ebay which should have unlocked bootloaders. you could probably also sell your note 5 on ebay for like 500-550 and purchase the international version which i imagine is rootable for around the same price as you sell the original for if you wanted to stay with sammy.
also to answer the orignial question, rooting the att g4 is pretty easy, there is no one touch tool that i know of, but as long as you can download some files and copy and paste some lines of code its pretty easy. also there is now an easy to revert back to stock att which there wasn't for a while if you need to make an rma or need to take an official ota after marshmellow or whatever the next update will be.
on a side note, if you do buy the att lg g4, make sure you take the latest update (o i believe), the phone is basically **** without it. mine was super laggy, overheating, and unresponsive to touch before it.
righteous.. well decision made
thanks yuh folks
tyvm
thanks
I currently have an HTC M8 and I am considering the Verizon S7 Edge but don't want to make the jump unless I will be able to root and maybe flash custom ROMs. I know it's probably too early to tell but what do you guys think the likelihood of root and an unlocked bootloader are? I like Best Buy's deal and would take a chance if it's probable for at least root access.
Thanks
root will probably have pretty soon but it will trip the knox as usual so....
Does tripping the knox disable anything other than Samsung Pay? I wont be using that anyway..
As above, root will probably be available prior to the 11th of March, but by tripping Knox. Personally, I can't live without Viper4Android so I'll be doing this regardless of the knox flag. Besides, I tripped the knox flag on my S4 a few years back and it didn't stop Samsung replacing the system board when it went faulty.
However, if I hear that there is a possibility of rooting without tripping knox (this was the case to begin with on the S6) then I will hold off and take that route. I have read however the chances of this on Marshmallow is non-existent.
As for custom roms like AOSP and CM, this will really only be possible on Snapdragon variants. But as you're discussing Verizon I would assume that isn't a problem as the American S7 comes with the Snapdragon 820. The one I'll get is the Exynos model so I'll be pretty much stuck with Touchwiz, which is far less of an issue nowadays than it would have been 3-4 years ago. It's far better now.
Don't get the Verizon one if you love to have root, at least as they tend to lock the boot-loaders so get the T-Mobile one if you like Snapdragon
Blart said:
I am considering the Verizon S7 Edge but don't want to make the jump unless I will be able to root and maybe flash custom ROMs.
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Don't get a Samsung device from Verizon if you want an unlocked bootloader or a rooted phone. Ever. Period.
CafeKampuchia said:
Don't get a Samsung device from Verizon if you want an unlocked bootloader or a rooted phone. Ever. Period.
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So true.
It would be nice if they released an unlocked version that worked on Verizon.
Until that happens, Samsung will never get my money.
I have a Nexus 6P and until Samsung does something different, I'll buy Nexus devices.
I miss the number of accessories and cases that are available for Samsung, but the locked down bootloader on Samsung is something I can't live with.
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So true.
It would be nice if they released an unlocked version that worked on Verizon.
Until that happens, Samsung will never get my money.
I have a Nexus 6P and until Samsung does something different, I'll buy Nexus devices.
I miss the number of accessories and cases that are available for Samsung, but the locked down bootloader on Samsung is something I can't live with.
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Pretty much why I won't grab the S7, will most likely grab a 6P (upgrade from my S5). If only AT&T would stop locking down the bootloaders.... They used to be friendly with it.
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As above, root will probably be available prior to the 11th of March, but by tripping Knox. Personally, I can't live without Viper4Android so I'll be doing this regardless of the knox flag. Besides, I tripped the knox flag on my S4 a few years back and it didn't stop Samsung replacing the system board when it went faulty.
However, if I hear that there is a possibility of rooting without tripping knox (this was the case to begin with on the S6) then I will hold off and take that route. I have read however the chances of this on Marshmallow is non-existent.
As for custom roms like AOSP and CM, this will really only be possible on Snapdragon variants. But as you're discussing Verizon I would assume that isn't a problem as the American S7 comes with the Snapdragon 820. The one I'll get is the Exynos model so I'll be pretty much stuck with Touchwiz, which is far less of an issue nowadays than it would have been 3-4 years ago. It's far better now.
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This x100
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Thanks for the responses from everyone.
Since I am stuck with Verizon for work reasons I will probably go with another device. I might be able to live with a locked bootloader but I am too attached to apps like Tasker, AdAway and such to not have root. Who knows, maybe somebody will come up with a way to make another carrier's S7 work on VZW or even unlock VZW's model. I will watch the forums.
I guess I got lucky with my VZW HTC M8. It was very easy to root and unlock the bootloader thanks to the hard work of several developers.
-Blart
This will be my first samsung phone (prrviously had xperia z3 compact, og moto x, razr maxx hd, etc). What does tripping knox actually do? I know there's a counter, butbis knox still the same or is it weakened or what?
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This will be my first samsung phone (prrviously had xperia z3 compact, og moto x, razr maxx hd, etc). What does tripping knox actually do? I know there's a counter, butbis knox still the same or is it weakened or what?
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nothing really happens...
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This will be my first samsung phone (prrviously had xperia z3 compact, og moto x, razr maxx hd, etc). What does tripping knox actually do? I know there's a counter, butbis knox still the same or is it weakened or what?
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You lose the ability to pay with your phone using Samsung Pay.. but who's using that anyway when there's credit cards?
Subscribing. I really like (almost) everything about the S7 Edge. First Samsung phone I have cared for in years. If I can get a variant that allows me an unlocked BL, then it will be replacing my trusty and loved Nexus 6. On AT&T here, maybe I can snag a T-Mobile variant and use it on ATT. Will be keeping up with this thread for more info. No custom roms is definitely a deal breaker.
Yea I'm in New Zealand and just found out we get the exynos version... usually we get the international versions. This is nearly a deal breaker as I love custom roms, xposed etc which I'm pretty sure only works on snapdragon. Don't know what to do atm
You know, its funny you should say that, because I too am now at a dilemma lol. I really want the 64GB version (I will be using a 128GB SD card too), but that one isn't coming to the US where I am, and it has me wondering something. Are ALL the Snapdragon variants 32GB and the exynos 64GB? I really hope they make a Snapdragon variant with a 64GB option that will work in the US, I don't mind importing if need be. I guess we have to wait until more info is known. I plan to wait until probably april to buy anyway.
The exynos version we get here is 32gb
Ah, that puts holes into my theory then (thank God lol). Good to know.
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Yea I'm in New Zealand and just found out we get the exynos version... usually we get the international versions. This is nearly a deal breaker as I love custom roms, xposed etc which I'm pretty sure only works on snapdragon. Don't know what to do atm
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Xposed works on touchwiz http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-boots-up-its-first-aosp-rom/ aosp booting on exynos, all hope is not lost.
Thanks. Support is limited though. I still don't know what to do. Not sure if I order a 820 from the states if it will even work on our networks.
Hello All,
I just purchased a Galaxy S6 today. Previously I have used (and loved!) the OnePlus One. I was actually hoping to upgrade to the OP3 here soon. However, a new job, a new town, and apparently a new phone. The only service that works where I live is Verizon. OP phones are not compatible with Verizon. :crying::crying::crying: So I must retire my poor baby and move onto a inferior product (based on how 'easy' it has been to install a custom ROM).
When I was doing the OP1, it was easy. I could do it in my sleep. The GS6 on the other hand, I can't even find a method of installing TWRP which actually works. I know that Total Wireless uses Verizon towers so I imagine that I basically have a Verizon phone. Is this possible with this phone?
I really can't stand the version of Android that is installed on this thing. Plus the bloat ware is making me sick already. HELP!!!!
Blenderite said:
Hello All,
I just purchased a Galaxy S6 today. Previously I have used (and loved!) the OnePlus One. I was actually hoping to upgrade to the OP3 here soon. However, a new job, a new town, and apparently a new phone. The only service that works where I live is Verizon. OP phones are not compatible with Verizon. :crying::crying::crying: So I must retire my poor baby and move onto a inferior product (based on how 'easy' it has been to install a custom ROM).
When I was doing the OP1, it was easy. I could do it in my sleep. The GS6 on the other hand, I can't even find a method of installing TWRP which actually works. I know that Total Wireless uses Verizon towers so I imagine that I basically have a Verizon phone. Is this possible with this phone?
I really can't stand the version of Android that is installed on this thing. Plus the bloat ware is making me sick already. HELP!!!!
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Sorry, no way to root a Verizon S6.
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Can you recommend a good phone like the OP phones that are Verizon compatible?
Nexus 6p will work.
Back in the day all the snapdragons were rooted either before release or shortly after. It seems like now the exynos is the one devs flock too... What has changed with snapdragon that devs don't seem to like it or focus on it anymore.
2 words: Locked bootloader
Carriers need to make that good cash by locking devices down and restricting users from being free, international variants (Exynos) don't have a locked bootloader because there's no money to be made by locking people down
Basically, Exynos is the only possible platform to develop for
Yep, just another Big Brother control!
Really sucks, I recall the heyday of the Galaxy Note II and SIII, man back then there were like 200 ROM's out, Touchwiz, AOSP, CyanogenMod, etc... Root and Recovery available the first week the phones released.
And I'm talking the U.S. carrier phones too. Not just the international.
And then they all stopped after the Galaxy S4 came out. They released a firmware and locked the **** down like a Navy sub going deep. Note 3 too LOCKED. And forever the good days long gone.
Except the T-Mobile Note 5 was rooted and ROM. But that was a freak rarity.
Now root and recovery are things of dreams for Galaxy phones.
Ahhh ok. I thought locked boot loaders were a issue that only Verizon and att mandated I thought Sprint and T-Mobile didn't have those issues. Ok. I've been out of the game a while and haven't been keeping my ear to XDA like I used too, so I'm behind on a lot of stuff.... There used to be exploits a dime a dozen for locked boot loaders though. Those don't pop up anymore?
Whole reason I moved to T-Mobile two years ago, was for the unlocked bootloaders that T-Mo was famous for, even when Verizon and ATT didn't allow that anymore. The Galaxy Note 5 was their last unlocked phone, since then, the S7, and Note7 were LOCKED, and looks like the S8 is too.
Glory days are gone.
Almost like the Jailbreak scene, which has faded bad, and there's only a stable JB released maybe once a year or every 18 months.
Hi guys, im with metro PCS and my old mega broke. I bought a new j7 LG because i thought it could be rooted and the more i looked into it Nougat boot is still locked up tight and what people wanted to do was flash it. That's not what i want
So i have to buy a new, but older, Metro PCS phine, one that can be rooted.
What do you suggest that is compatible to the j7 price but is rootable?
I've only got about 150 to spend
Thanks
20GT said:
Hi guys, im with metro PCS and my old mega broke. I bought a new j7 LG because i thought it could be rooted and the more i looked into it Nougat boot is still locked up tight and what people wanted to do was flash it. That's not what i want
So i have to buy a new, but older, Metro PCS phine, one that can be rooted.
What do you suggest that is compatible to the j7 price but is rootable?
I've only got about 150 to spend
Thanks
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All Android OS is rootable, The part on the locked bootloaders is completely up to the OEM's on whether or not they lock them or allow for an unlock method or even better, Dont ship with a lock at all. All in all, Its all up to the OEM.
OEM's have various reasons for doing this such as protecting their assets, Making it so that there's no replacement claims caused by users failing to root and bricking the device, The list goes on to be honest. Too many to list.
As for what phone should you get, I'd suggest finding the phones within your price range and then see if a forum/threads exist within XDA for it and decide which ones the one to get based on that.