I currently have an HTC M8 and I am considering the Verizon S7 Edge but don't want to make the jump unless I will be able to root and maybe flash custom ROMs. I know it's probably too early to tell but what do you guys think the likelihood of root and an unlocked bootloader are? I like Best Buy's deal and would take a chance if it's probable for at least root access.
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root will probably have pretty soon but it will trip the knox as usual so....
Does tripping the knox disable anything other than Samsung Pay? I wont be using that anyway..
As above, root will probably be available prior to the 11th of March, but by tripping Knox. Personally, I can't live without Viper4Android so I'll be doing this regardless of the knox flag. Besides, I tripped the knox flag on my S4 a few years back and it didn't stop Samsung replacing the system board when it went faulty.
However, if I hear that there is a possibility of rooting without tripping knox (this was the case to begin with on the S6) then I will hold off and take that route. I have read however the chances of this on Marshmallow is non-existent.
As for custom roms like AOSP and CM, this will really only be possible on Snapdragon variants. But as you're discussing Verizon I would assume that isn't a problem as the American S7 comes with the Snapdragon 820. The one I'll get is the Exynos model so I'll be pretty much stuck with Touchwiz, which is far less of an issue nowadays than it would have been 3-4 years ago. It's far better now.
Don't get the Verizon one if you love to have root, at least as they tend to lock the boot-loaders so get the T-Mobile one if you like Snapdragon
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I am considering the Verizon S7 Edge but don't want to make the jump unless I will be able to root and maybe flash custom ROMs.
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Don't get a Samsung device from Verizon if you want an unlocked bootloader or a rooted phone. Ever. Period.
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Don't get a Samsung device from Verizon if you want an unlocked bootloader or a rooted phone. Ever. Period.
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So true.
It would be nice if they released an unlocked version that worked on Verizon.
Until that happens, Samsung will never get my money.
I have a Nexus 6P and until Samsung does something different, I'll buy Nexus devices.
I miss the number of accessories and cases that are available for Samsung, but the locked down bootloader on Samsung is something I can't live with.
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So true.
It would be nice if they released an unlocked version that worked on Verizon.
Until that happens, Samsung will never get my money.
I have a Nexus 6P and until Samsung does something different, I'll buy Nexus devices.
I miss the number of accessories and cases that are available for Samsung, but the locked down bootloader on Samsung is something I can't live with.
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Pretty much why I won't grab the S7, will most likely grab a 6P (upgrade from my S5). If only AT&T would stop locking down the bootloaders.... They used to be friendly with it.
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As above, root will probably be available prior to the 11th of March, but by tripping Knox. Personally, I can't live without Viper4Android so I'll be doing this regardless of the knox flag. Besides, I tripped the knox flag on my S4 a few years back and it didn't stop Samsung replacing the system board when it went faulty.
However, if I hear that there is a possibility of rooting without tripping knox (this was the case to begin with on the S6) then I will hold off and take that route. I have read however the chances of this on Marshmallow is non-existent.
As for custom roms like AOSP and CM, this will really only be possible on Snapdragon variants. But as you're discussing Verizon I would assume that isn't a problem as the American S7 comes with the Snapdragon 820. The one I'll get is the Exynos model so I'll be pretty much stuck with Touchwiz, which is far less of an issue nowadays than it would have been 3-4 years ago. It's far better now.
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This x100
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Thanks for the responses from everyone.
Since I am stuck with Verizon for work reasons I will probably go with another device. I might be able to live with a locked bootloader but I am too attached to apps like Tasker, AdAway and such to not have root. Who knows, maybe somebody will come up with a way to make another carrier's S7 work on VZW or even unlock VZW's model. I will watch the forums.
I guess I got lucky with my VZW HTC M8. It was very easy to root and unlock the bootloader thanks to the hard work of several developers.
-Blart
This will be my first samsung phone (prrviously had xperia z3 compact, og moto x, razr maxx hd, etc). What does tripping knox actually do? I know there's a counter, butbis knox still the same or is it weakened or what?
Crewville96 said:
This will be my first samsung phone (prrviously had xperia z3 compact, og moto x, razr maxx hd, etc). What does tripping knox actually do? I know there's a counter, butbis knox still the same or is it weakened or what?
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nothing really happens...
Crewville96 said:
This will be my first samsung phone (prrviously had xperia z3 compact, og moto x, razr maxx hd, etc). What does tripping knox actually do? I know there's a counter, butbis knox still the same or is it weakened or what?
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You lose the ability to pay with your phone using Samsung Pay.. but who's using that anyway when there's credit cards?
Subscribing. I really like (almost) everything about the S7 Edge. First Samsung phone I have cared for in years. If I can get a variant that allows me an unlocked BL, then it will be replacing my trusty and loved Nexus 6. On AT&T here, maybe I can snag a T-Mobile variant and use it on ATT. Will be keeping up with this thread for more info. No custom roms is definitely a deal breaker.
Yea I'm in New Zealand and just found out we get the exynos version... usually we get the international versions. This is nearly a deal breaker as I love custom roms, xposed etc which I'm pretty sure only works on snapdragon. Don't know what to do atm
You know, its funny you should say that, because I too am now at a dilemma lol. I really want the 64GB version (I will be using a 128GB SD card too), but that one isn't coming to the US where I am, and it has me wondering something. Are ALL the Snapdragon variants 32GB and the exynos 64GB? I really hope they make a Snapdragon variant with a 64GB option that will work in the US, I don't mind importing if need be. I guess we have to wait until more info is known. I plan to wait until probably april to buy anyway.
The exynos version we get here is 32gb
Ah, that puts holes into my theory then (thank God lol). Good to know.
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Yea I'm in New Zealand and just found out we get the exynos version... usually we get the international versions. This is nearly a deal breaker as I love custom roms, xposed etc which I'm pretty sure only works on snapdragon. Don't know what to do atm
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Xposed works on touchwiz http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-boots-up-its-first-aosp-rom/ aosp booting on exynos, all hope is not lost.
Thanks. Support is limited though. I still don't know what to do. Not sure if I order a 820 from the states if it will even work on our networks.
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I pulled the trigger on a Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2. $849 unlocked. I wanted a option for LTE if I needed it. Thought the Snapdragon 800 might offer better performance/seems that is a unknown... Also heard faster charging. I saw a comment in another thread the Verizon locks boot loaders. Does anyone know if I will be able to root this device? How can i determine if the bootloader is locked?
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I pulled the trigger on a Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2. $849 unlocked. I wanted a option for LTE if I needed it. Thought the Snapdragon 800 might offer better performance/seems that is a unknown... Also heard faster charging. I saw a comment in another thread the Verizon locks boot loaders. Does anyone know if I will be able to root this device? How can i determine if the bootloader is locked?
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Looking for this too, I tried using the Chainfire autoroot for the P905 but it seems it doesn't work for our model, the P905V.
No it will not work. I think this may be tough with a locked bootloader. Chainfire supports CF Autoroot but I believe he is away for the next few weeks. Not sure if he will be able to get it working on the Verizon LTE version but right now, there is no way to root that.
Also, as far as performance, there is really no difference from what I have read. If anything, the 905 *may* be slower due to LTE. What I can say is that the Snapdragon processor will charge faster than the Exynos in the P900.
If you REALLY need root, return the 905V and get a 900. I just tether mine to my HTC one when away from home or a hot spot. You'll also save more than 100 bucks. Verizon is making it very difficult to root with their locked bootloaders and I don't expect these will be in high demand so support from the Dev's may be slim.
Just my .02
I think we will be seeing TWRP support for the P900 in the next day or so. That should help open the door to custom rom's but I expect they are still a month or more away at this point.
I pulled the trigger on the 12.2 too, deciding on keeping it. Also ended up getting a 10.1 2014 for the SO....but mine is 12.2.But Verizon is just icky, lol, then the locked bootloaders, lack of support, then throw in lack of support from the devs due to very few devices etc...
I hope this can be rooted.
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I pulled the trigger on the 12.2 too, deciding on keeping it. Also ended up getting a 10.1 2014 for the SO....but mine is 12.2.But Verizon is just icky, lol, then the locked bootloaders, lack of support, then throw in lack of support from the devs due to very few devices etc...
I hope this can be rooted.
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I'm currently testing the Verizon and the WIFI only models. The Verizon version is definitely smoother, especially when it comes to speed of opening web pages and browsing ( with both on WIFI). The Qualcomm processor in the Verizon version is definitely putting the Exynos processor in the WIFI only version to shame.
Unfortunately, if the Verizon version cannot be rooted I just may have to return it and get the more expensive unlocked international LTE version, just for the superior Qualcomm processor.
Is it 100% positive that verizon p905v cant be rooted? The recharging time and smoothness as well as battery life has made me an extremely happy camper for the LTE model. Somebody said chain fire was on holiday for month or so. I'm wondering what we can do to have information for him or anyone else to try and root.
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Edit my mistake i didn't see the Verizon at the beginning
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aburns7487 said:
Is it 100% positive that verizon p905v cant be rooted? The recharging time and smoothness as well as battery life has made me an extremely happy camper for the LTE model. Somebody said chain fire was on holiday for month or so. I'm wondering what we can do to have information for him or anyone else to try and root.
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Chainfire seems to have returned as shown by his recent posts in the central CF-Autoroot thread. Could you go post there again for us? I would but my post count is still low
Unlonking Bootloader - SM-P905V Verizon no contract
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Chainfire seems to have returned as shown by his recent posts in the central CF-Autoroot thread. Could you go post there again for us? I would but my post count is still low
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How to rooting this tablet version verizon?? >> SM-P905V. I need change firmware for other country (Brazil), but Odin have a problem with block mode verizon. I bought in amazon site, no contract verizon. LTE is ok in Brazil ... I want OEM firmware in my tablet, not verizon firmware! someone could help me where to get an unlock for SM-P905v?
30 Days
Don't they have to release the firmware within 30 days? Perhaps we need to take this up with Samsung?
Quick background story, I've been using an HTC phone since the M7, and owned all the M Flagships and currently using an AT&T Branded M9. My wife is currently using a AT&T branded Galaxy S5. I really liked how open my HTC phones are, and all 3 of them had been able to be Fully SIM Unlocked, S-OFF, and can run any compatible ROM. The AT&T Branded GS5 of course only can use AT&T Software and its been a pain waiting on AT&T for patches and updates.
We're planning to replace them both with new Galaxy S7s and since we're planning to buy them outright, my question is which one should we buy? From I read it looks like all units have the same hardware, but the TMO variants seems to at least have the bootloader unlocked and should be SIM Unlocked if I bought it outright.
Our basic requirements.
- Sim unlocked(able)
- Bootloader Unlocked(able)
- Able to use Android Pay/Samsung Pay in the USA
- Rooting is nice but not required, and as long as it don't break A.Pay/S.Pay
- Able to work on AT&T with little or no issue (not missing any LTE Bands, etc)
- Open to get the Exynos model if can still support A.Pay/S.Pay in USA and elsewhere.
- Able to flash debloated or custom ROMs if needed
Its been awhile since i did any work on any Samsung Phones, so I don't know if its just as easy to flash ROMs and Recoveries like my HTCs
Thanks for any feedback on the matter.
You want the tmo version.
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You want the tmo version.
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It figures as much. How easy or difficult is it to flash non-carrier rom? I know people are just started getting their S7s, did the s6 have any issues with flashing a clean rom and keeping all A.Pay and S.Pay?
There's no development currently on these phones since the sources haven't dropped yet since the phone hasn't technically launched, after mar 11 samsung will release some sources.
If you're looking to remove bloat on non-rooted phones your only options is this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en with a rooted rom android/samsung pay wont work.
Last year with the S6 I know for sure the international versions worked just fine with AT&T's LTE network. But last year all models used the same modem (Shanon 333), but this year the international version and the U.S. version are different and both have integrated modem and that throws in an uncertainty. I see no reason why the International versions worked last year with Samsung's modem but not this year, but until someone reports with first-hand experience I would not pull the trigger on the international version (Exynos).
I used SM-G920I (S6) and SM-G928G (S6 Edge+) and both worked flawlessly on AT&T's network.
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Last year with the S6 I know for sure the international versions worked just fine with AT&T's LTE network. But last year all models used the same modem (Shanon 333), but this year the international version and the U.S. version are different and both have integrated modem and that throws in an uncertainty. I see no reason why the International versions worked last year with Samsung's modem but not this year, but until someone reports with first-hand experience I would not pull the trigger on the international version (Exynos).
I used SM-G920I (S6) and SM-G928G (S6 Edge+) and both worked flawlessly on AT&T's network.
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Are you able to use Android pay or Samsung pay on those International models? Thanks
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Are you able to use Android pay or Samsung pay on those International models? Thanks
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No.
Edit: Oh, wait. Android Pay = Yes, Samsung Pay = No.
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No.
Edit: Oh, wait. Android Pay = Yes, Samsung Pay = No.
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Hmmm, still missing out on Samsung Pay eh, I wonder if there would be a non-carrier version of the phone we can get in the states with full support of all avaliable features and services. :fingers-crossed:
I'd like to bump this old thread for updates now that the S7 has been around for some time. I'm looking to get an S7, and it looks like the G930U variant might be the one to get now- is that right? I have the same requirements as the original poster, but I'll list them anyway:
-Able to work on AT&T with no issue (I read somewhere that some aspects of AT&T LTE are not supported? What impact does this have?)
-root is required (is it true that rooting prevents being able to encrypt the phone?)
-no bloat or bloat is removable (seems this is the main benefit of G930U?)
-SD card slot (seems like all US models have the SD card slot?)
Are there different versions of the G930U? Is this, for example, the right one: http://a.co/6QgYIxA ?
Thanks
Hello everyone,
T-Mobile's galaxy avant was my first phone, and being a budget phone, it wasn't all that great. However, I did learn the basics on rooting/flashing on it. I naively upgraded to the T-Mobile s7 edge thinking i could continue my custom roming, only to find out the boatloader was unlockable with research. Out of pure frustration, I downgraded to the s6 edge plus which did have the unlocked bootloader. The battery life, however, is very disappointing, even with deodexed/debloated rom.
So now, I want to upgrade to the s8+, but before I do so I would like your expert opinion on which would work best for me. I know the carrier versions of the phone will have the locked bootloader, so those should be out of question. However, I do need it to function properly on T-Mobile's network, and would like the biggest options in custom roms possible. I would assume that would point me towards the SM-G9550, but I saw various devices with the same model number but different processor exynos/snapdragon.
I don't want to make the same mistake I made with the 7, so all help is greatly appreciated!
LEGONIKES said:
Hello everyone,
T-Mobile's galaxy avant was my first phone, and being a budget phone, it wasn't all that great. However, I did learn the basics on rooting/flashing on it. I naively upgraded to the T-Mobile s7 edge thinking i could continue my custom roming, only to find out the boatloader was unlockable with research. Out of pure frustration, I downgraded to the s6 edge plus which did have the unlocked bootloader. The battery life, however, is very disappointing, even with deodexed/debloated rom.
So now, I want to upgrade to the s8+, but before I do so I would like your expert opinion on which would work best for me. I know the carrier versions of the phone will have the locked bootloader, so those should be out of question. However, I do need it to function properly on T-Mobile's network, and would like the biggest options in custom roms possible. I would assume that would point me towards the SM-G9550, but I saw various devices with the same model number but different processor exynos/snapdragon.
I don't want to make the same mistake I made with the 7, so all help is greatly appreciated!
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The G9550 although does have a Snapdragon 835 and an unlockable bootlooader, has 2 issues:
1) Virtually no custom ROMs available for it.
2) Not fully compatible with T-Mobile.
Get yourself the International model, SM-G955F or FD (Dual SIM).
Both are identical in terms of hardware, have the same custom ROMs, and since you'll be rooted anyway, you can flash the T-Mobile CSC to get T-Mobile features working, like VoLTE and WiFi calling.
You can get the phones off a UK based retailer like Clove, or from eBay.
Sent from my SM-G955F
LEGONIKES said:
Hello everyone,
T-Mobile's galaxy avant was my first phone, and being a budget phone, it wasn't all that great. However, I did learn the basics on rooting/flashing on it. I naively upgraded to the T-Mobile s7 edge thinking i could continue my custom roming, only to find out the boatloader was unlockable with research. Out of pure frustration, I downgraded to the s6 edge plus which did have the unlocked bootloader. The battery life, however, is very disappointing, even with deodexed/debloated rom.
So now, I want to upgrade to the s8+, but before I do so I would like your expert opinion on which would work best for me. I know the carrier versions of the phone will have the locked bootloader, so those should be out of question. However, I do need it to function properly on T-Mobile's network, and would like the biggest options in custom roms possible. I would assume that would point me towards the SM-G9550, but I saw various devices with the same model number but different processor exynos/snapdragon.
I don't want to make the same mistake I made with the 7, so all help is greatly appreciated!
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Get yourself a OnePlus 5T, if you insist on custom ROMs and all. Yes, it doesn't have as many features like the S8, resizable Multi Windows, Edge, AOD, etc., but when you unlock bootloader and flash it (i.e. you trip Knox), this time around you lose actual features, Secure Folder, Samsung Pay, a few others, essentially you get a cut-down version of the real thing. Battery life should be on par with the S8+, from what I understand.
Moved away from my OnePlus 3 because got bored with it, and screen was too small. Got the Exynos G955F instead, and for the first time I haven't flashed the new phone as soon as I got it because of these reasons I listed above.
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The G9550 although does have a Snapdragon 835 and an unlockable bootlooader, has 2 issues:
1) Virtually no custom ROMs available for it.
2) Not fully compatible with T-Mobile.
Get yourself the International model, SM-G955F or FD (Dual SIM).
Both are identical in terms of hardware, have the same custom ROMs, and since you'll be rooted anyway, you can flash the T-Mobile CSC to get T-Mobile features working, like VoLTE and WiFi calling.
You can get the phones off a UK based retailer like Clove, or from eBay.
Sent from my SM-G955F
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I noticed you have the SM-G955F. What are your impressions on the phone?
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Get yourself a OnePlus 5T, if you insist on custom ROMs and all. Yes, it doesn't have as many features like the S8, resizable Multi Windows, Edge, AOD, etc., but when you unlock bootloader and flash it (i.e. you trip Knox), this time around you lose actual features, Secure Folder, Samsung Pay, a few others, essentially you get a cut-down version of the real thing. Battery life should be on par with the S8+, from what I understand.
Moved away from my OnePlus 3 because got bored with it, and screen was too small. Got the Exynos G955F instead, and for the first time I haven't flashed the new phone as soon as I got it because of these reasons I listed above.
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Ok I hear what you're saying about the features cut. I thought I would've had the same issue on my s6, but with this custom rom I flashed (Khongloi's s8 port) samsung pass, health, and secure folder worked perfectly fine! I feel like pay would have worked if I had gotten magisk working right before i uninstalled it, but still. I've done a little research on the forums as to how to fix everything after root, but all I found was a fix for health. If there could be a way to extract whatever the hell that rom had for other roms, I think that would be great.
I was thinking about the OP 5T, but then the cost to feature ratio just didn't make it for me. I know for sure I would've bought the OP 3T when it was new atless than 400 USD.
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I noticed you have the SM-G955F. What are your impressions on the phone?
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Nothing bad to say about it. Great display, great battery life, great camera as well. Only thing I want is for Samsung to put a bit more effort into the software updates, but other than that, it's perfect.
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I just received my new phone today as my secondary rooted phone, although I now feel like I bought the one wrong model out of the bunch.
For the life of me I cant find any way to root this phone online, I am hoping someone can tell me if its possible. I dont care if I trip knox or its a paid program i have to get to run, I just want to make it happen. so any and all help would be appreciated.
I am truly sorry if there is a current thread that answers this, but so far everything I have found is pretty old.
On a similar boat and it seems that Nougat cannot be rooted. You can downgrade to 5.1.1 and then root but that seems not worth it as you are giving up features that are available only in Nougat. I myself might just switch to a tmobile S6 motherboard. I have the Verizon S6 variant but I'm on T-Mobile.
I can really care less about the services lost in the downgrade. If you know how i can downgrade to 5.1.1 to then mod, I'd still love to do it. I already have a S9+, S8 for back up and an apple s6. I really want to mod this Verizon, or it will have no use
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On a similar boat and it seems that Nougat cannot be rooted. You can downgrade to 5.1.1 and then root but that seems not worth it as you are giving up features that are available only in Nougat. I myself might just switch to a tmobile S6 motherboard. I have the Verizon S6 variant but I'm on T-Mobile.
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I'm fine with downgrading as long as that means I can root my phone, is there any kind of tutorial for downgrading?
Late to the party, I know.
I have HAD been a big Samsung fan for many years. Due to finances, I have never chosen to purchase the latest greatest model of any phone.
So when my S5 died, I bought a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge a few years ago. I usually run a phone stock for a year or more until I want a change, then I flash some new ROMs to breathe some life into an aging phone.
I did not do my homework last time, and I am INCREDIBLY disappointed to learn that the locked bootloader of my specific Galaxy S7 Edge (SM-G935P) will NEVER allow me to flash another ROM (and I may be stuck at Android 8.0).
From my research tonight, Samsung has continued down this road. If so, I'm done with them.
Where else can I look for a good solid Android phone that will give me plenty of time and plenty of tools/ROMs to customize it?
Thanks.
Dougmeister said:
Late to the party, I know.
I have HAD been a big Samsung fan for many years. Due to finances, I have never chosen to purchase the latest greatest model of any phone.
So when my S5 died, I bought a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge a few years ago. I usually run a phone stock for a year or more until I want a change, then I flash some new ROMs to breathe some life into an aging phone.
I did not do my homework last time, and I am INCREDIBLY disappointed to learn that the locked bootloader of my specific Galaxy S7 Edge (SM-G935P) will NEVER allow me to flash another ROM (and I may be stuck at Android 8.0).
From my research tonight, Samsung has continued down this road. If so, I'm done with them.
Where else can I look for a good solid Android phone that will give me plenty of time and plenty of tools/ROMs to customize it?
Thanks.
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You can continue using Samsung, you just need to be more selective of which particular device/model number you purchase. Samsung still makes devices that do not have locked bootloader. All of the US carrier branded Samsung devices pretty much have a locked bootloader, but some of the international models have locked bootloader and do not come with the carrier branded pre-installed bloatware. You just need to SIM unlock them to be used on US carrier networks.
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