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hello there,
i have tried different froyo Roms on my defy, and used the stock ones as is without modifying anything in the ROM, but after my defy is idle for sometime, i do not get gmail,gtalk,whatsapp,etc to sync and i get late notifications (up to 45 minutes late)
i came to conclude that any app uses googles C2DM (clould to device messaging) seems to be having the same problem, is anyone having this behavior? any fix for this?
note: data enabled, battery manager set to performace, sync is on.
i even tried CM7 and same issue. can it be that i am flashing only fixed sbf+nandroid?
do i need to flash full sbf for that to work? any idea???
i think there is a problem with google services the past month or so. It may have nothing to do with your phone or rom. star this thread over at the google help forums:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=7c7a962fd3ae87e2&hl=en
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i think there is a problem with google services the past month or so. It may have nothing to do with your phone or rom. star this thread over at the google help forums:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=7c7a962fd3ae87e2&hl=en
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thanks for the reply, it seems google services are affected and if one is using 2.2+ C2dm applications will be affected too as they're using googles services for push. back to 2.1 now, google applications will function same as 2.2 but other applications are 100% ok.
i just dont want to move to iPhone please google fix this!
I disabled Google Play Services and Google Services Framework on my Moto G, because I don't need them and the Play Store (I sideload all my apps from the pc).
But there's a big problem: if I disable even one of them, and try to enable the geolocation, it only uses the option "high precision" and, worse then that, it makes all the android framework crash and reboot if I try to open any geolocation-using app (like Google Maps or the camera with geo-ON). Any hint to solve this issue? I really want to get rid of these services, for battery and privacy reasons (in particular, battery improvements are really noticeable!).
UPDATE: I don't get this bug UNLESS I reboot the phone. If I do, I get this issue. If I don't, Maps still works even with these services disabled. I'd like anyway to solve this problem so I don't have to make laborious procedures everytime the phone reboot (I already have to kill 5 motorola processes, i.e. Motocare and Motorola Services ones).
I've attached a pair of screens to clarify my situation. I'm on the STOCK and NO-ROOTED rom.
Thank you very much in advance
So you do need Google services? But don't want to need them, my advice flash stock android ROM without using G-apps
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Durteedee said:
So you do need Google services? But don't want to need them, my advice flash stock android ROM without using G-apps
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No, I'm on the stock android and not need them. But if I disable them, and I reboot the phone, all the geolocating app I use make the system crash, that's a weird behaviour. To convince yourself, you can disable both the services, restart the phone, open Google Maps and press the location button.
If I don't reboot the phone, instead, Google Maps continues to work even with this two services disabled... that's what confuses me
I basically meant stock and stripped like CM11 without Gapps
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zack.1988 said:
No, I'm on the stock android and not need them. But if I disable them, and I reboot the phone, all the geolocating app I use make the system crash, that's a weird behaviour. To convince yourself, you can disable both the services, restart the phone, open Google Maps and press the location button.
If I don't reboot the phone, instead, Google Maps continues to work even with this two services disabled... that's what confuses me
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Basically, you're going to have to root and flash your phone. You can't remove Google services on stock.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
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I am one of those who do they everyday work without google stuff and without gapps. I found out several problems:
Some apps do not install because of missing Google Maps API
Some apps fc at startup bacause of missing Maps API or market license check issues
Some apps hardcoded links to several Google Apps and therefor fc or react unexpectedly on certain cases.
No access to Play Store (i tried nearly every alternative market, but nothing is as good for free apps as play store) Meanwhile, F-Droid provides nearly everything you need
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this thread may interest your needs
SamsungAdmire said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
this thread may interest your needs
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Thank you for the intereeting link. Unluckily it regards mainly rooted devices... Pretty interesting though
Let me see if I get this right. You purchased a phone manufactured by Google, using a stock Rom compiled by Google, and you are trying to used Google software (Google Maps or Motorola Camera software- by Google) and you find it surprising that the system crashes after disabling Google's framework? And you are hoping to solve this without rooting or flashing a custom Rom? Seriously?
Sorry for the ironic tone, but you really need to give the idea of making a thread for this a second thought, my friend.
No problem for the ironic tone,but I can ensure you that I'm running Google Maps and (Motorola, not Google!) Camera App geotag WITHOUT having these two services enabled, and they work flawlessy the problem is ONLY when I REBOOT the phone, in which case I must enable and disable again these services in order to make apps with geolocation work without crashing the system. I will attach a screenshot of my running processes in the STOCK and NOROOT rom, and I ensure you that apart this small, boot-time issue, everything works great on my phone (with a great battery boost, I've been able to achieve 9 hours of screen time plus 1hr of calls, what do you think?).
I've about 50 apps installed, I just don't like Motorola and Google ones because they keep running about all the time, sucking out a lot of private data and battery juice
Well I am new to Android and also have/had problems using the moto g. I disabled all Google apps and stuff I could find and the OS is not really stable, I get quite a few hiccups and the phone crashes every now and then. I thought the nova launcher might be the problem, but I also suspect the OS in general.
But unlike you I don't use any Google stuff, so not even maps.
Well, I am selling the phone anyway.
No crashes here apart this Maps tweak, so it sound's really weird... maybed you disabled some critical services. On my device, with kitkat 4.4.2, ART compiler, everything is more than stable. You could try a factory reset or switching from Dalvik to ART too...
Sounds like a gigantic hassle. I don't think these services use much battery at all.
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Sounds like a gigantic hassle. I don't think these services use much battery at all.
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Before saying that, try and let me know
(as soon I will use it in a regoular way - I.e. not gaming and not browsing all the time - I'll post a screenshot proving the 9 hours of screen time, that I wasn't able to reach with Google services enabled)
Ive had 9 hours screen time with google services enabled but that was just doing light stuff ,got 2.5 days out of my last battery charge but that was with only 5 hours screen time but mine is rooted and greenified now.
Cant think of a solution to your problem sorry,guess you will just have to avoid rebooting.
yes, I guess so...
I need to reinstall Google play services on my moto g how do I do this?
This thread is over a year old and totally unrelated to your question. Searching the forums is my advice because you are pretty unlikely to find an answer to your question by posting in this particular thread
Hi,
I keep getting report: Unfortunately, Google Play services has stopped.
My phone is rooted, I'm on stock ROM and stock kernel, and I'm using xposed framework. However, I didn't update any of xposed modules recently, and I didn't have this problem earlier. So I don't think it could be caused by xposed.
My Google Play services version is 6.1.09 (1459805-036).
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Vratislav Jindra
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OK, I just Googled a little bit more, and found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/fix-google-play-service-6-1-05-6-1-07-t2882844 - it is for Galaxy S4 and Google Play services 6.1.05-6.1.07, however it obviously worked for me as well.
The problem was (hopefully) xposed module called Disable Location Consent (v1.2). I think it is not be compatible with the newest Google Play services.
Moderators can close/delete this thread, if they want. I'm sorry for posting before Googling, however this question wasn't asked before for this particular version of Google Play services and device.
felmaster said:
OK, I just Googled a little bit more, and found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/fix-google-play-service-6-1-05-6-1-07-t2882844 - it is for Galaxy S4 and Google Play services 6.1.05-6.1.07, however it obviously worked for me as well.
The problem was (hopefully) xposed module called Disable Location Consent (v1.2). I think it is not be compatible with the newest Google Play services.
Moderators can close/delete this thread, if they want. I'm sorry for posting before Googling, however this question wasn't asked before for this particular version of Google Play services and device.
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Thanks for posting the solution yourself!
I bet there will be users finding this thread, when searching for a solution.
So, no need to delete it, but that's just my 2 cents [emoji106]
I myself had the same problem, and found the same solution googling.
Thanks again for taking the trouble to post the solution after you found it! [emoji2]
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Thanks for posting the solution man.. Just disabled that module and will see now..
You saved a lot of time and possible factory reset
Thank you so much for this solution! Seems to have worked for me, too. And it makes sense, too. If I turn on GPS now the consent window has changed and obviously Google has implemented an option to never be asked again which renders the DisableLocationConsent Module useless anyway. If only Google copied great Xposed modules more often!
Edit: In addition to the constant force closes of the play services I also had an unusual high data and battery usage since the update. Let's see if this gets back to normal, too...
Hii everyone i am using moto g xt1033 with stock rom, unrooted,bootloader locked..i am having noticeable battery drain on my moto g when my phone is idle..i found that google play services(google location service) is causing the battery drain..i tried to force stop but doesnt work..just disabling the app works...but the google play services is necessary for google apps like youtube,playstore,gmail etc..so plzz give me any solution to stop this unnecessary battery drain...thank you
On Un rooted the only option you can try is
1. Disconnect Internet
2. Uninstall Google play services update
3. Clear cache via recovery
4. Connect to Internet and use your phone normally.. Let Google play services update automatically..
This might help
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On Un rooted the only option you can try is
1. Disconnect Internet
2. Uninstall Google play services update
3. Clear cache via recovery
4. Connect to Internet and use your phone normally.. Let Google play services update automatically..
This might help
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i had tried to uninstall google play service update...then the battery drain stops but the thing is many google apps require new version of google play services to work..that is the reason i am so irritated with this thing..i tried many things but nothing works
Can you point out the battery drain so we can see if it is abnormal? Your screenshots only show that it is running, which means nothing since it is always running on all devices.
Upon reading your post it appears some app is constantly pinging for location. My solution is to either find the rogue app or simply turn off location (gps).
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Can you point out the battery drain so we can see if it is abnormal? Your screenshots only show that it is running, which means nothing since it is always running on all devices.
Upon reading your post it appears some app is constantly pinging for location. My solution is to either find the rogue app or simply turn off location (gps).
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i do not use gps its most of the tym turned off..and currently i have disabled google play services so i cant post screenshot regarding battery drain..but the point is that google location services always keeps running in background taking much RAM and i think this service is generating unnecessary events for location,which results in waking up the cpu frequently,wasting cpu cycles which results in battery drain during the phone is idle..and i also downloaded an app namely GserviceFix but this app also didnt work for me..so any suggestion
Use greenify pro
Google play services will always be running.
I faced this issue some time back.. I had to root my device and use AppOps to disable wake ups from Google play services..
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Use greenify pro
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i dont think it will work,coz i am running stock rom without root..and no xposed..well i vl gv it a try..thanks
madman said:
I faced this issue some time back.. I had to root my device and use AppOps to disable wake ups from Google play services..
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well thanks for your support...i will wait till official lollipop update arrives..hope lollipop will fix this issue
me_is_rushin said:
Google play services will always be running.
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sorry to say but i think you are not aware of this issue.
zahid111 said:
sorry to say but i think you are not aware of this issue.
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No I don't think you understand. All android devices that have google services will have Google Play Services running at All Times. Right now my running apps screen has 6 processes and 10 services running. Much more than yours.
me_is_rushin said:
No I don't think you understand. All android devices that have google services will have Google Play Services running at All Times. Right now my running apps screen has 6 processes and 10 services running. Much more than yours.
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i know that but some services are not necessary like location services it keeps always running and drains your battery..and you cant force stop that..this issue was not before Google play services version 6..when it got updated to version 6 then this problem arises..you can check process stats in developer options..than you will came to know its not normal. it keeps running all the time.dont you ever noticed battery drain during night when your phone is in idle mode..which version of google play services are you using???are you rooted or not..well i think @madman will also try to help you make understand...he is a senior member here and well knowing...
update google play services
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update google play services
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its updated to the latest version..but problem still exists
zahid111 said:
its updated to the latest version..but problem still exists
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use greenify download it from play store.
K1Ng0r.fTw~ said:
use greenify download it from play store.
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i am using greenify cant you see in the screenshot..without root and xposed framework greenify will not allow to hibernate system apps..
GServiceFix
zahid111 said:
i am using greenify cant you see in the screenshot..without root and xposed framework greenify will not allow to hibernate system apps..
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Search one app on play store name "GServiceFix" hope it will help
Hit thanks if it helps.
K1Ng0r.fTw~ said:
Search one app on play store name "GServiceFix" hope it will help
Hit thanks if it helps.
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bro i tried that app also and used that several times but didnt work..
Is there any solution for that? Im experiencing battery drain on 5.1.1., then on Euphoria-OS, no matter the version (20.08.2015 now).
I can use private setting to blok waking up and preventing a sleep for Google Play Service but then I have error message "google services stopped" every other second.
Hi Guys.
Now its been a few months with the device, I know a lot of you are using the device with GMS. I have decided not to side load it on to the device, It took me a while to start get used to using the phone without. I have not had any real issues with getting apps via app gallery and petal search. (I have the odd app that doesn't work 100%, but they are apps i can live without)
how are you getting on with it all?
its been good for me also, thought i would have had a lot more issues but every app i need is there, the only exclusion atm being ebay which i can easly use via web as its layout is same as an app anyway lol
I think like most initially I was apprehensive but 8 weeks on I don't even notice tbh, life continues and I've got a banging bit of kit
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Hi Guys.
Now its been a few months with the device, I know a lot of you are using the device with GMS. I have decided not to side load it on to the device, It took me a while to start get used to using the phone without. I have not had any real issues with getting apps via app gallery and petal search. (I have the odd app that doesn't work 100%, but they are apps i can live without)
how are you getting on with it all?
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What apps are these? i may have easy work arounds for you.
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I think like most initially I was apprehensive but 8 weeks on I don't even notice tbh, life continues and I've got a banging bit of kit
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Pretty much how I feel, still a few apps here and there like OP said. Do hope AppGallery gets fleshed out soon, sounds like there's promising things on the way - just hoping Huawei invest in their ecosystem / store as they said they would!
That said, Petal Search was a pretty smart way for them to get arround Apps not being launched on their own store... Well played Huawei.
I used my phone with and without google play store. Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores. This impacted battery drastically. It added me 3 hrs of on-screen time. As for an app store, I use modded apkpure market. Mod disables all reporting, ads etc.
P.s Now i have a ridiculously long battery life. Enjoying my phone more than before.
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I used my phone with and without google play store. Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores. This impacted battery drastically. It added me 3 hrs of on-screen time. As for an app store, I use modded apkpure market. Mod disables all reporting, ads etc.
P.s Now i have a ridiculously long battery life. Enjoying my phone more than before.
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This is actually a really interest approach that makes a lot of sense. One thing I will say is HMS still seems to be better on the battery than GMS devices / installed. I guess it would be a lot of the data collection and analysis from Googles end.
Do mapping services still work with both cores completely removed? Has there been any draw backs at all?
The Google maps app works fine. I use it daily. But apps that use Google maps needs Google services to display the map(Like Grab). They don't work. This is the only drawback that I experienced.
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What apps are these? i may have easy work arounds for you.
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The only app i have had real issues with is the starbucks app. I've tried via the browsers but cannot use the card feature.
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The Google maps app works fine. I use it daily. But apps that use Google maps needs Google services to display the map(Like Grab). They don't work. This is the only drawback that I experienced.
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I am guessing that HMS core apps are probably on there way just taking a while.
it'll be good to see what will come in the next few months, daily there seems to be something new, I think I noticed sky go is now available!
now that i have gotten issues sorted out its not bad at all , only thing i miss is being able to cast to my chromecast. i set microsoft launcher and it allowed me to set google as my search engine so it feels very similar.
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The only app i have had real issues with is the starbucks app. I've tried via the browsers but cannot use the card feature.
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i see, unfortunately i don't use Starbucks. Im more of a Monster man haha. If i find anything ill be sure to let you know.
faceliler said:
I used my phone with and without google play store. Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores. This impacted battery drastically. It added me 3 hrs of on-screen time. As for an app store, I use modded apkpure market. Mod disables all reporting, ads etc.
P.s Now i have a ridiculously long battery life. Enjoying my phone more than before.
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Would you have a link to that mod please?
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Would you have a link to that mod please?
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I got it from this website: https://apk4all.com/android/apps/apkpure-mobile-appstore-mod/
I meant link for this "Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores"
Manual for debloating?
MixEvo said:
now that i have gotten issues sorted out its not bad at all , only thing i miss is being able to cast to my chromecast. i set microsoft launcher and it allowed me to set google as my search engine so it feels very similar.
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When I am am streaming I just use the wireless display feature on the device.
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
it'll be good to see what will come in the next few months, daily there seems to be something new, I think I noticed sky go is now available!
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Yeah it looks like it is getting much better. Once it has banking apps on there it will likely do much better and more people will start realising how fantastic the device is.
My music service is YouTube, I can't live without google services. I've been thinking about switch to other phone, the only gps I got working 100% of the time is Waze(Google app), don't have push for many apps is frustrating and I lost google pay that I used a lot. So not very happy.
raamoon said:
My music service is YouTube, I can't live without google services. I've been thinking about switch to other phone, the only gps I got working 100% of the time is Waze(Google app), don't have push for many apps is frustrating and I lost google pay that I used a lot. So not very happy.
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Try YouTube Vanced. Better than youtube and works.
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I meant link for this "Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores"
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Oh sorry, I used this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p40-pro/how-to/adb-debloating-t4088633
In addition, I got the app called "App inspector" and got rid of many more apps than those in the guide. App inspector is for getting the package name of bloatware so i can use adb to uninstall.