I'm wondering if the RDS data output of the FM receiver can be redirected to a virtual COM port to be used as a TMC receiver with GPS programs like destinator 7.
Strange mate!
even if it was possible then the reviewer said that it only worked when the headset was connected guess it act the role of antenna would be bothersome to have the wiredheadset hanging while using it as gps
Hi Rudegar, great to see the red/white flag ;-)
Headset vs. FM antenna can be handled software wise.. eg. on Eten G500
As soon as headset is plugged a popup asks to redirect sound to ext. speaker for navigation purpose.
As for the TMC / FM radio in HTC products.. (Polaris, Artemis etc.).. Haven't seen a solution yet, RDS is supported in both products, so if TMC mesages runs on the default RDS stream it should be technical possible.
Merry X-mas and Happy Newyear (go' bag(h)jul)
Rudegar said:
even if it was possible then the reviewer said that it only worked when the headset was connected guess it act the role of antenna would be bothersome to have the wiredheadset hanging while using it as gps
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I don't think that this could be a problem: I'm thinking on connecting the device in my car with a "Y" connector, one of the outputs to the sound system (car radio) and other to a power system. It is easy to connect the car antenna with a capacitor to the sound line.
Then the Device will be connected to a external headeset, with good antenna capacity, and at the same time to the car power.
cptn_dk said:
Hi Rudegar, great to see the red/white flag ;-)
Headset vs. FM antenna can be handled software wise.. eg. on Eten G500
As soon as headset is plugged a popup asks to redirect sound to ext. speaker for navigation purpose.
As for the TMC / FM radio in HTC products.. (Polaris, Artemis etc.).. Haven't seen a solution yet, RDS is supported in both products, so if TMC mesages runs on the default RDS stream it should be technical possible.
Merry X-mas and Happy Newyear (go' bag(h)jul)
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Yes, TMC is only a filtered data stream of the RDS network. Obviously it will be needed to know the correct RDS chain that works in each country for TMC, but it is only information.
The question is: Is there any known way to extract online information of the RDS data from the FM receiver programatically?
I can do a program that attach to any API or hardware interface and present the data in a virtual port.
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Yes, TMC is only a filtered data stream of the RDS network. Obviously it will be needed to know the correct RDS chain that works in each country for TMC, but it is only information.
The question is: Is there any known way to extract online information of the RDS data from the FM receiver programatically?
I can do a program that attach to any API or hardware interface and present the data in a virtual port.
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Well, i can't help you too much but i remember that some time ago, perhaps a year ago, hackers been cheating on RDS and people been foolish when reading on their car radios notices like "alarm because of ..." . I don't remember also wich country, perhaps Australia or Usa.
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Well, i can't help you too much but i remember that some time ago, perhaps a year ago, hackers been cheating on RDS and people been foolish when reading on their car radios notices like "alarm because of ..." . I don't remember also wich country, perhaps Australia or Usa.
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I also remember that, but I'm talking of the opossite side of teh RDS: Trafic information is sent like these RDS hackers sent their "information" but in a data format called TMC. Inserting this RDS transmited-TMC coded information into some GPS navigation software helps the software to create optimized routes.
I've seen the Polaris manual and the FM receiver is RDS compliant, then the RDS data transmited over the FM modulation is decoded iniside the Polaris and shown in the screen. But: If we could extract these RDS information from the decoder and make it available in a serial virtual port, then GPS navigation software running in the polaris could take advantage of it.
I need the FMS_API.DLL, then there is TMC/TMC Pro !!!
from what I've read most navigation software support combined gps/tmc on the same com port. this means someone should extract also the gps data and combine both...
At least Destinator 7 supports two separate comports for GPS and TMC.
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At least Destinator 7 supports two separate comports for GPS and TMC.
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it must be changed gpstmc.dll. but the FMS_API.DLL penetrate needed!!!
IGO 8 supports TMC too with different data port.
igo 8 autodetect polaris as tmc
cant find a station though... i think in spain tmc use am not fm
Can you please explain step by step how to do this ? Cause it doesn't looks likes igo8 detects any TMC on my Polaris. It just seems to try all ports and protocols available in it and claims it "TMC device not found" at the end.
Forgot to mention, the TMC protocols available for selection in the igo8 version i did this attempt on are:
GNS
Royaltek
Eten
Amaryllo
Open TMC v1
Open TMC v2
Ngai Lik
Samsung
Fx
AVANTEQ
There is NO TMC support for our POLARIS
There is NO TMC support for our POLARIS
The hardware is not there!
Demodulating the RDS data is all that hardware is supposed to do, the rest can be done by software. Polaris got an FM radio receiver that seems to show the station names. The only place it can get those names from is an RDS stream, so it is already doing the demodulation of that !
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I need the FMS_API.DLL, then there is TMC/TMC Pro !!!
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If still interested, here there is a nice original HTC test package (from the Diamond) containing test FM dll and exe.
Works on Cruise too, and looks more flexible than standard FM radio application. Maybe this code is more useful than standard ROM one.
*BUMP*
Any progress? i'd love to have this on a blackstone.
Hi
this is my first message here....
I was exciting yesterday when i discover this forum!!! I have found a lot of information about the HTC Cruise/Polaris.
I have just a problem:
I fell the RADIO FM very crappy...the signal is alway very disturbed and noise (also when the indication bar are 4/five).
Do you know if there is some trick to adjust or increase the power of the FM radio?
Thank You
There are only a few possibilites...
1. You have a crappy FM reception...
2. You have got a crappy FM chip (in this case get a new one)
3. You didn't tune the channel in correctly
4. You've got a crappy headset (you can check it whith listening to some mp3s)
5. If you have a French ROM, then check the Upgrading subforum, for more useable ROM versions.
That's all I can think of at first...
I think that your headset is not ok. It happend the same to me. The antenna of the headset bundled with the cruise was not OK. The recepcion was awful. With a different headset everything is OK now. Try with one from another cruise or other htc phone.
could you please suggest me some good "headset"??
in addition i would like to use my Sennheiser CX300...there is a possibility to have a good "antenna" and use my headset?
"I fell the RADIO FM very crappy...the signal is alway very disturbed and noise (also when the indication bar are 4/five)."
mind you the bar indication only show cellphone network reception it
dont show fm signal str
E.Bonobox said:
could you please suggest me some good "headset"??
in addition i would like to use my Sennheiser CX300...there is a possibility to have a good "antenna" and use my headset?
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I own this one:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=154771&asource=159608
It works fine, allows you to have buttons to control the music reproduction, and allows you to use the Sennheiser. There are simpler models, which transform the usb connector into a 3.5 mm connector which would also allow you to use your sennheiser, although you wouldn't have the buttons. Anyway, make sure that whatever you buy, they have antenna.
Anyway, before buying anything, I would try to borrow from someone a good headset to make sure that the problem with your radio is that. In my case it was. I think that the headset from P3600 and maybe P3300 are compatible.
hello everyone
i was wondering, if it is possible to have a radio player on the VOX /S710 phone
im not talking about a gprs radio player that needs to connect to the internet to play the radio stations
im talking about connecting a headphone, and start searching for radio stations like a normal radio.
any idea?
cheers
Impossible.
Reason being is that there is no FM radio hardware in the phone.
Some other hardware models (eg. Nokia, O2 XDA Atom, etc) have an FM radio chip installed where you can do exactly as you want.
I tried this method for FM Radio
follow these steps to the FM radio
1- Download spirit fm free from the market
2- plug in the headphones
3- run spirit fm free and open settings
4- set regional regional Band to World
5- choose audio from the settings then methods
6- choose GalaxyS ALSA then Motorola
It tune the channels correctly & show the signal strength too. But I do not get sound via headset or speaker. I tried with both methods GalaxyS ALSA/ICS & Motorola. But still no sound. The playback sound is set to full.
Can somebody help please?
I'm experiencing the exact same issue. Is this just regional? I'm in the Philippines. Like vincent7woo, it shows signal strength and can detect the radio stations/frequencies, but no audio. any help would be appreciated.
same issue here. i am in Hyderabad, India. Please help!
Hello,
Anybody know a radio app with RDS AF working??
Because AF feature implementation of this radios is buggy and it just looks for the next strong frequency instead of the strongest frquencie of the same radio station.
I think this is a very important feature wich is very important in a good car radio system.