Hi all,
I'm attempting to upgrade my Galaxy S Captivate (Rogers) 2.2 stock phone, although it is rooted and unlocked currently. I've read many of the plethora of threads both here and elsewhere, but in all honesty it is a bit overwhelming and I was hoping to get some clarification on some of the specifics and was hoping people here could help.
1) I was hoping to upgrade to 2.3, either stock or a custom ROM. Which ones are good and stable? There are really so many now, I would appreciate a few suggestions. I've looked through many of the threads, but can't really make up my mind.
2) After I choose a ROM, what are the steps for my phone. Should I unroot? Or at least remove the unlock? I was hoping to maybe just have a list of things I should look for in the guides so I know that they're accurate to my specific device and setup.
3) Just to confirm, I should be able to root and unlock with the new ROMs on 2.3, right? Same for lagfix, that was pretty damn useful.
4) Are there any modems which are better than others? Do I do that separately?
Sorry if I seem a bit confused here. Any help people could provide would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
Lucky75 said:
Hi all,
I'm attempting to upgrade my Galaxy S Captivate (Rogers) 2.2 stock phone, although it is rooted and unlocked currently. I've read many of the plethora of threads both here and elsewhere, but in all honesty it is a bit overwhelming and I was hoping to get some clarification on some of the specifics and was hoping people here could help.
1) I was hoping to upgrade to 2.3, either stock or a custom ROM. Which ones are good and stable? There are really so many now, I would appreciate a few suggestions. I've looked through many of the threads, but can't really make up my mind.
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My experience (in alphabetical order)
Continuum
Mosaic
Serendipity
Lucky75 said:
2) After I choose a ROM, what are the steps for my phone. Should I unroot? Or at least remove the unlock? I was hoping to maybe just have a list of things I should look for in the guides so I know that they're accurate to my specific device and setup.
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Custom ROMs (kernels) are already rooted. Nothing to do there.
Lucky75 said:
3) Just to confirm, I should be able to root and unlock with the new ROMs on 2.3, right? Same for lagfix, that was pretty damn useful.
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Most (not all) kernels have a lagfix (EXT4 file system) option, some don't. It seems RFS has been behaving well for most on 2.3.
Lucky75 said:
4) Are there any modems which are better than others? Do I do that separately?
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Every ROM will have one preloaded by the ROM dev. Modems are very often (geographical) area specific. They're quick and painless to flash so try out a few.
Read/study to info guides and tech terms. And especially- always follow the instruction of the ROM dev before installing- it will help you tremendously.
Thanks for the reply mate. So, I was thinking of using continuum, and I was just hoping to confirm everything as I understand it.
I'm looking at this thread: http://www.team-continuum.net/forum...ses/(guide)general-installation-instructions/
And at this thread: http://www.team-continuum.net/forum...lease)(rom)continuum-6-1-xxjvq-android-2-3-4/
1) My device is NOT the i9000, correct? (Galaxy S Captivate from rogers, I think it's the i896?)
Current Firmware: 2.2
Baseband: I896UXJL1
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Should I have any problems?
2) I shouldn't need to re-lock my phone or anything. I use titanium backup to copy everything off my phone (I just used the batch backup)
3) Then I update the bootloader with this one (I897UCKF1), and I assume I just download and run the executable while connected?
4) Then I flash the non-i9000 kernel with odin?
5) Finally, I put the phone into recovery, and install continuum from the SD.
6) What apps do I restore from titanium? Just the apps? Or can I move some system settings over too? Might be a bit dangerous.
7) Does doing all of this wipe everything on my internal SD card? And should I take out my external SD before doing all this?
Is that correct, or am I missing something?
Thanks!
Problems can always happen with humans in the mix, but if you follow proper directions you shouldn't have any.
1. No problem there (see answer 3).
2. Make sure you copy your Titanium backup file off of your phone as you will wipe everything during the ROM flash. Not sure what you mean by "re-lock"...
3. Again, just follow the instructions to the letter- icezar (Cezar - Continuum) does well to explain the process in his thread.
4 and 5. See answer 3.
6. Apps only. I may be corrected on this but I believe going from 2.2 to 2.3 it may be best just skip any data at all. As a general rule there are very few scenarios where you would ever load system data from Titanium Backup.
Everything you asked about could be answered by spending some time reading the forums. As for which ROM, only you can answer that. There is no "best" ROM because each person has different needs and ROMs can run differently from phone to phone. Next time, spend some time doing some searches, look through the ROM-specific stickies in Q&A, and read up in the developer's ROM thread in Dev. Personalized service is nice, but this is more of a do-it-yourself forum with helpful, unpaid volunteers.
Yes, and Kona was very helpful. Thanks for that mate.
As I mentioned before, I had indeed read many of the stickies, but there are simply too many versions of the same information and I got a bit confused. It's especially hard when the same device has many different models, and each model can have multiple ROMS, and each ROM has many different versions. Factor in unlocking and rooting, and there are a vast number of possible setups. For someone who hasn't loaded a custom ROM before, that can be a bit daunting. Even the threads that try to keep things in one place can sometimes add to the confusion.
Lucky75 said:
Yes, and Kona was very helpful. Thanks for that mate.
As I mentioned before, I had indeed read many of the stickies, but there are simply too many versions of the same information and I got a bit confused. It's especially hard when the same device has many different models, and each model can have multiple ROMS, and each ROM has many different versions. Factor in unlocking and rooting, and there are a vast number of possible setups. For someone who hasn't loaded a custom ROM before, that can be a bit daunting. Even the threads that try to keep things in one place can sometimes add to the confusion.
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That's why it's better to post to an existing related thread rather than start a new one that just ends up adding to the clutter.
Hello xda, I've been browsing these forums for a while and all the information has been extremely helpful, however, I think I've reached a point where I actually needed to post some questions that haven't been answered. Being a student studying digital forensics, I have been focusing on mobile devices, specifically Android devices. I have encountered an issue with imaging Android phones and being able to look at the contents within, so as such, my questions are:
- Is it possible to create a bit-stream image of an Android Phone, such as a .dd file (either through a custom recovery or perhaps an app within the Android os?) Since Android is Linux based, it might be possible to port the dd command onto the device?
- Is it feasible to flash a custom recovery kernel onto an Android phone without rooting the device (using fastboot, perhaps)? The reason why just rooting the device to perform a Nandroid backup is not possible is because rooting the phone would require unlocking the bootloader, which would wipe the data that I want to retrieve off of the device.
- Would performing a Nandroid backup retrieve all user-edited data from the device? From my understanding, a Nandroid backup will backup the /data folder, which would contain all the user information such as SMS, Contacts, Call logs. Are there any folders that might contain this type of information that would not be retrieved from a Nandroid backup?
- There are a lot of resources on this forum for custom ROM development, but are there any resources for custom recovery development?
- Anything I develop has to be able to work on as many devices as possible, so would I have to write something new for every device, or would I just have to write something for a few manufacturers?
I'm trying to learn as much as I can about Android so I can begin developing myself , so any links to documentation and/or help to these questions would be greatly appreciated!
bump, I really need some help
No one has any information or could point me in the right direction?
Unlocking the bootloader is not necessary for rooting. Bootloader is something which fires your kernel which works together with the installed ROM system. Now if you want to root your device, that can be done, and always is, without touching the bootloader. If you want to install a recovery one the device you will either need an installer which requires a rooted device or simply flash a custom kernel with recovery integrated, but that requires an unlocked bootloader in most cases. Keep in mind though that none of this should affect data on the phone in any way.
Unlocking the bootloader shouldn't wipe any data.
Flashing custom kernels with recovery shouldn't wipe any data.
Rooting the device shouldn't wipe any data.
Flashing another ROM on the device will delete all system and user data in the /system and /data partitions which can both be backed up via recovery to a SD card.
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Unlocking the bootloader doesn't wipe the phone? I was under the impression that it did, judging from all of the guides about unlocking the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1972508
Do they just say that as a precaution? Or does it in fact wipe the phone?
In that particular case it does but differs between devices. Unlocking my bootloader did not wipe anything.
However, you can always backup everything using adb from the Android SDK.
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I see, so am I correct in assuming the it is impossible to flash a custom recovery kernel, without first unlocking the bootloader? Or does that also vary between devices? The reason why ADB backup might not be the complete solution is because there might be some devices that don't use Android 4.x so I believe ADB backup wouldn't work right?
Well, not entirely true since you can install some recoveries by .apk hence it could be possible to use it ROM related as in manually placing files into the ROM root filesystem but that's a too big hassle.
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Are you referring to using something like ROM Manager? Wouldn't something like that require root in the first place? Are root and unlocking the bootloader mutually exclusive, in that you can't root without first unlocking the bootloader? I understand that there may be some devices where you can root without unlocking the bootloader, but I was under the impression that for the majority of Android devices, you needed to first unlock the bootloader, which could potentially wipe the data off the phone?
Hello
(sorry for my english)
I'm a noob in this world and i need some help.
In the past few days i've been reading a lot of posts in this forum but to a noob it's a little bit hard to understand somethings.
So, i'm using this topic to ask some questions. If there is another thread that answer all my questions and explain things for a newbie, feel free to tell me and apologize to create this new thread.
I have a smartphone android, Galaxy S2 with android 4.1.2, all locked to the provider (I know that there is a specific forum for this smartphone and i read some threads).
Now, i want to make it a ROOT and maybe try new ROM's.
Let's start with the questions:
-To make a root, it's better with kernel exchange or with a simple file?
-In the future, if i want to install another ROM, having the root made from the kernel that is with the phone (using a file in the SD Card) may cause some problems? To do this it's better to go to root insecure kernel?
-Why i need to change kernel? which is the benefits?
-It's possible to restore to the previous kernel?
-What are necessary to backup the ROM that actually i have?
-Changing one time the kernel, i can install all the roms i want or i need to install another kernel's?
Thank you for your atention, and one more time, sorry for my english!
@pedrocrv,
Your English is fine! Don't worry about that, man.
Here is my opinion.
Generally speaking, you don't need to replace your kernel. Replacing the kernel can both drastically change your device's performance for the better, as well as render your device completely unusable, which in Android terminology is called "bricked". If your device is "bricked", it is completely useless as an electronic device, making it nothing more than a brick.
But to get back on topic, it's normally only developers like myself who need to replace the kernel, and even then only every once in a while. It's somewhat unsafe for new users, because one little mistake can lead to a huge problem. Trust me, I've seen them here on XDA myself. Don't become one of them.
However, using and flashing ROMs is a whole different story. ROMs normally change aesthetic parts of your device, like the look and features. If you follow the instructions given to install the specific ROM very well, it is practically impossible to brick your device.
If you find a good ROM, go for it. It's almost definitely going to change your device in a very good way.
So to wrap up this post, basically (for you):
Replace the kernel = bad idea, don't do it until you have more experience
Install/flash a ROM = a great idea, go for it if you find a nice one!
The most important thing to remember, however, is to m a k e a b a c k u p. Once you make a backup, you can mod your system however you want without fear of bricking.
Hope this helps.
@thenookieforlife3
Thank you for your explanation!
I understand what you said, but in one thread of my smartphone i see a lot of people talking about rooting their phones but for this is needed to use another kernel.
I want to root my device, and in a near future maybe install one ROM of CyanogenMod (and try others too), but i'm afraid of rooting because that story of changing the device kernel and using Odin... I don't want a brick
Another question:
If i find a file to root my device without Odin, but i don't have the 100% that it's the file indicated for my device, there is some problem if I try to root with that?
And, as i see, there is some diferent files, how i choose one? it's indifferent or one file have specific itens that another don't have?
Thanks a lot!
pedrocrv said:
@thenookieforlife3
Thank you for your explanation!
I understand what you said, but in one thread of my smartphone i see a lot of people talking about rooting their phones but for this is needed to use another kernel.
I want to root my device, and in a near future maybe install one ROM of CyanogenMod (and try others too), but i'm afraid of rooting because that story of changing the device kernel and using Odin... I don't want a brick
Another question:
If i find a file to root my device without Odin, but i don't have the 100% that it's the file indicated for my device, there is some problem if I try to root with that?
And, as i see, there is some diferent files, how i choose one? it's indifferent or one file have specific itens that another don't have?
Thanks a lot!
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like Thenookieforlife3 said you do not need a kernel, you dont need one to root or install roms/custom recovery's, they are just for tweaking things or being able to overclock. So, first of all, you are going to have to tell us your model number (or which carrier your phone is on) so we can direct you to the right root guide, s2's are fairly easy to root so dont be scared we will hold your hands the entire way!
Trozzul said:
like Thenookieforlife3 said you do not need a kernel, you dont need one to root or install roms/custom recovery's, they are just for tweaking things or being able to overclock. So, first of all, you are going to have to tell us your model number (or which carrier your phone is on) so we can direct you to the right root guide, s2's are fairly easy to root so dont be scared we will hold your hands the entire way!
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This. ^
We can definitely give you a hand, but we do need a few details to make sure everything works out.
hello again!
@Trozzul and @thenookieforlife3,
Thank you!
So there is the information asked for: (see the attachment for more details)
Bandbase: I9100BULS1
Kernel: 3.0.31-889555 [email protected] #3 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 31 14:48:54 KST 2013
Compilation Number: JZO54K.I9100XWLSD
I have another questions to do:
-What vary from file to file on root?
-What is a AOSP ROM? Where I can find a rom that is almost empty of trash, like i think it is a Stock Rom?
-In the information given above, wich is more important to see if I can install that rom? Can I install a rom that is not XWLSD?
Many thanks!
Answers to your questions are in red.
Thank you! You're very welcome!
So there is the information asked for: (see the attachment for more details)
Bandbase: I9100BULS1
Kernel: 3.0.31-889555 [email protected] #3 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 31 14:48:54 KST 2013
Compilation Number: JZO54K.I9100XWLSD
I have another questions to do:
-What vary from file to file on root? Normally not much changes from root method to root method - basically, if anything does, it's negligible to you, meaning that it won't really matter. What does matter is that the root method actually roots your phone.
-What is a AOSP ROM? ASOP stands for Android Open Source Project, and it pretty much means that it's a ROM that is as minimalistic and "free of trash", as you say, as you can get it.
-Where I can find a rom that is almost empty of trash, like i think it is a Stock Rom? Here are a few good ones:
AOSP NeatROM for S2
CarbonRom KitKat for S2
SuperNexus for S2
-In the information given above, which is more important to see if I can install that rom? Can I install a rom that is not XWLSD? The ROMs that you can install will be labelled "S2" and "I9100". Don't try to install any other ROMs unless they have those labels.
Hope these help!
I understand what you said!
For example, the AOSP NeatROM have a version that is not AOSP. What it means?
To Install other ROM's i need to root first?
And now, how i simply root by a file?
@pedrocrv,
Answers to your questions in red.
For example, the AOSP NeatROM have a version that is not AOSP. What it means? That means that there is another version of that ROM that is more full of extra features, a.k.a "trash".
To Install other ROM's i need to root first? Yes.
And now, how i simply root by a file? It depends from method to method - some methods are apps that you install and then hit a "big red button", some methods are files that you have to flash through a custom recovery, for example, ClockworkMod. Basically, just read and follow the instructions that come with each root method.
again, thank you!
So, if i find some thread that talk about a file to root, it's just follow the instructions and it's done?
how I know that i need a custom recovery? mine doesn't work?
what is flashing?
Thank you for your attention!
@pedrocrv,
Once again, answers to your questions in red.
So, if i find some thread that talk about a file to root, it's just follow the instructions and it's done? Yes, that's right.
how I know that i need a custom recovery? mine doesn't work? The rooting method will tell you in the instructions whether or not you need a custom recovery, and if it does, it will tell you which one to use and how to use it.
what is flashing? Simply put, flashing is installing a file (normally a .zip) that has been specially formatted via a recovery method (custom or stock).
Thank you for your attention! No problem!
thenookieforlife3 said:
@pedrocrv,
First, please make sure to hit "Thanks" on each of my helpful posts.
Once again, answers to your questions in red.
So, if i find some thread that talk about a file to root, it's just follow the instructions and it's done? Yes, that's right.
how I know that i need a custom recovery? mine doesn't work? The rooting method will tell you in the instructions whether or not you need a custom recovery, and if it does, it will tell you which one to use and how to use it.
what is flashing? Simply put, flashing is installing a file (normally a .zip) that has been specially formatted via a recovery method (custom or stock).
Thank you for your attention! No problem!
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im sure we should introduce him to cyanogenmod, cyanogenmod can be more stock than Asop most of the time, Asops nice but there are most of the time little additions that the creator likes, plus if cyanogenmod installer is compatible for your device he shouldn't have todo much!
@pedrocrv , im not trying to steal his thunder but im trying my best to explain it to you too if he left anything out, otherwise if you guys want me to i will back out .
Custom recovery's are basically a way of getting out of a bad spot and being able to Flash new Roms, if you get stuck in a bootloop (stays stuck at the samsung screen for a very long time, the first time you flash a rom you should let it sit for it can take awhile for the first time you turn it on.) you can most likely get out of the problem and be able to backup your stock firmware if you decide you dont like rooting/custom roms, it does stuff the Stock recovery does not do.
Flashing is basically as thenookieforlife3 said its so you can install Roms, when you hear the term flashing think "installing".
@Trozzul and @thenookieforlife3,
Thank you for both atention! i'm learning a lot of things with both of you!
I know cyanogen, and as i search in the wiki of cyanogen page i think my phone is compatible.
What I need to do with the installer? And if i use the installer, how I backup my actual ROM to future problems or needs to come to origins?
stock ROM-> My actual ROM?
Custom ROM-> a new one
So, if i understand everything:
With my actual recovery i'm not able to install other ROM's. But, with my recovery, i'm able to root my device unless the root method needs a custom recovery and it say's how to install it right?
With the root by my recovery, i'm able to install other ROM's but I will need to further install a custom recovery right?
Many thanks :good:
pedrocrv said:
@Trozzul and @thenookieforlife3,
Thank you for both atention! i'm learning a lot of things with both of you!
I know cyanogen, and as i search in the wiki of cyanogen page i think my phone is compatible.
What I need to do with the installer? And if i use the installer, how I backup my actual ROM to future problems or needs to come to origins?
stock ROM-> My actual ROM?
Custom ROM-> a new one
So, if i understand everything:
With my actual recovery i'm not able to install other ROM's. But, with my recovery, i'm able to root my device unless the root method needs a custom recovery and it say's how to install it right?
With the root by my recovery, i'm able to install other ROM's but I will need to further install a custom recovery right?
Many thanks :good:
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Yes your stock rom is what the device comes with when you buy it. every device method of being able to get custom roms is different, so when you do get a new phone always do your research, sometimes you can root it and dont need a custom recovery (thats only if you want to stay on stock rom) sometimes you need a custom recovery to get root. with my S2 what i needed todo was get a custom recovery first, installing cyanogenmod already comes rooted so you can make a backup of your stock rom without rooting it.
so i dont also exactly know which device you have, where are you from? it looks spanish in your phones setttings with that screenshot, region is important. is it a GT-i9100 or a GT-i9100b? take out the battery and tell us what the model number says there. this is important for the cyanogenmod installer.
Trozzul said:
Yes your stock rom is what the device comes with when you buy it. every device method of being able to get custom roms is different, so when you do get a new phone always do your research, sometimes you can root it and dont need a custom recovery (thats only if you want to stay on stock rom) sometimes you need a custom recovery to get root. with my S2 what i needed todo was get a custom recovery first, installing cyanogenmod already comes rooted so you can make a backup of your stock rom without rooting it.
so i dont also exactly know which device you have, where are you from? it looks spanish in your phones setttings with that screenshot, region is important. is it a GT-i9100 or a GT-i9100b? take out the battery and tell us what the model number says there. this is important for the cyanogenmod installer.
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No i'm from portugal
so:
Model: GT-I9100
SSN:-I9100GSMH
Wich is the diference?
pedrocrv said:
No i'm from portugal
so:
Model: GT-I9100
SSN:-I9100GSMH
Wich is the diference?
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There's very little difference between the i9100 and the i9100b, but the difference is enough that there is a separate CyanogenMod installer for both models.
thenookieforlife3 said:
There's very little difference between the i9100 and the i9100b, but the difference is enough that there is a separate CyanogenMod installer for both models.
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@thenookieforlife3 i think the cyanogenmod installer installs a CWM right for his question on it? also look at these stated on the Cyanogenmod wiki for the GT-i9100
WARNING:
Some second-generation Samsung Exynos devices are potentially susceptible to a "superbrick" caused by performing a factory reset with the stock kernel, which effectively kills the internal memory in the device. It is highly recommended you do not perform this operation while using a stock kernel for safety reasons. To make sure you aren't running the stock kernel (only needed when coming from the stock ROM), fully install CM without performing a factory reset and reboot to recovery before you perform the factory reset.
WARNING:
If you used a non-official method to remove a provider lock, your /efs partition may become corrupt! It is highly recommended you make a backup of this for safe keeping before attempting to modify your device, especially if you plan to remove such a lock.
WARNING:
The newest Gapps package (20140606) is too big for the /system partition of i9100. Please use the 20140105 package instead. This message will disappear when this is resolved.
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Should we tell him to run a benchmark and tell us his CPU?
@pedrocrv (Edit:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.antutu.ABenchMark download this app real fast and tell us what CPU you have) so the cyanogenmod installer will be the easiest thing for you, even though installing a custom rom is insanely easy this is basically a one click method, note that all of your data will be deleted so back that up somewhere where you can save it and put it on your phone when its done installing. so as i asked thenookieforlife3i believe that the cyanogenmod installer will also install the latest and best custom recovery for you (CWM: Clockworkmod will be a huge term like CM: Cyanogenmod you will hear a lot, they are both very popular for being the most stable.) it would be stupid enough for it not to install it as well, but if it does not we will show you an easy app that will install a custom recovery, basically one click just like cyanogenmod. now as i looked on the cyanogenmod site, the installer IS compatible with your phone and will install a Stable version of Cyanogenmod 10.2 which is android 4.3. note that the highest right now is CM 11 which is android 4.4.4 kit kat but right now is what we call a "Nightly".
i will try my best to explain this to you, there are four stages that cyanogenmod puts out i will rate them from lowest to highest: "experiments" "snapshot" "nightly" and "Stable", you only need to worry about nightly and stable, Stable is basically the final product the last update for that android version so its the most stable and with less bugs and this is what you want to aim for, Nightlys are Nightly generated updates that update bugs every night asked by people like us to be fixed, Honestly Nightlys are Very stable and are perfectly fine.
Now you might like Cyanogenmod 10.2, personally a lot of my phones run 10.2 if its available, you might like kit kat (Cyanogenmod 11) better instead, honestly try out 10.2 first and if you dont like it, you can update to Cyanogenmod 11 (they push updates out like how samsung would push out updates.) without deleting your information on CM 10.2, im sorry if i confused you at all please ask a lot of questions if needed!
Trozzul said:
@thenookieforlife3 i think the cyanogenmod installer installs a CWM right for his question on it? also look at these stated on the Cyanogenmod wiki for the GT-i9100
Should we tell him to run a benchmark and tell us his CPU? …
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Yes, installing CyanogenMod installs ClockworkMod as the default recovery.
Yes, let's have him run a benchmark and tell us the results.
@thenookieforlife3 and @Trozzul
Again, thank you for your patience!
I'm now running the benchmark!
Let's put new question's..
-With CM 10.2, it comes with root, and how to unlock the SIM?
-With CM 10.2, in wich phase of the installation I will be able to backup my stock ROM?
-Imagine that after sometime I want to go back to my stock ROM, What I need to do, because i will have another recovery?
-WIth the CM 10.2 I will have my RAM memory more free?
In the attachment are the images of the test
thank you again!
Pedro
@pedrocrv,
As always, answers to your questions in red.
-With CM 10.2, it comes with root, and how to unlock the SIM? @Trozzul, if you'd please answer this question, that would be great, because I don't know much about SIM unlocking.
-With CM 10.2, in wich phase of the installation I will be able to backup my stock ROM? You will want to make a Nandroid backup before you do anything at all in relation to rooting and CyanogenMod.
-Imagine that after sometime I want to go back to my stock ROM, What I need to do, because i will have another recovery? You will use either the "Install update from SD card" or the "Install .zip from SD card" feature. I don't know exactly, but if that time comes, please let me know and I'll do the research necessary to help you out.
-WIth the CM 10.2 I will have my RAM memory more free? It all depends on what apps you have running at one time. I personally use Advanced Task Killer Free to kill apps directly after I'm finished using them, and that frees up a lot of RAM. CM probably overall will make your RAM memory less free, but if you use the app killing trick, you won't ever have a problem with it.
In the attachment are the images of the test Great, thank you for doing that.
At least that's what I think I have. I have just recently started getting messages about not able to update apps because I'm out of space. I go to try to delete apps, and find I can't . Doing a little research, I come to the conclusion that the only way to delete apps on this bugger is to root it. Am I on the correct track? But I seem to be seeing that if I root it, I loose everything on my phone & need to start over again loading all apps. This may be both a good thing and a bad thing. Good because I can pick & choose what apps I want, but bad because I don't know what apps I need. Is there any help for me? If there is a classification for before noob, that would be me, so please be gentle.
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At least that's what I think I have. I have just recently started getting messages about not able to update apps because I'm out of space. I go to try to delete apps, and find I can't . Doing a little research, I come to the conclusion that the only way to delete apps on this bugger is to root it. Am I on the correct track? But I seem to be seeing that if I root it, I loose everything on my phone & need to start over again loading all apps. This may be both a good thing and a bad thing. Good because I can pick & choose what apps I want, but bad because I don't know what apps I need. Is there any help for me? If there is a classification for before noob, that would be me, so please be gentle.
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Rooting should not result in any data loss on your device. However, unlocking your bootloader will result in a full factory reset, which does wipe your userdata partition. By deleting unwanted apps upon rooting your device, you are actually referring to "debloating," which is one of the top reasons users prefer root access to begin with. There are many custom ROMs, such as LineageOS and SlimROMs, which come with very little to no bloatware preinstalled. Here are some basic steps to guide you. You can find full tutorials to these topics here on the XDA Moto G 2015 Forum:
1. Unlock your bootloader (this wipes your data);
2. Flash TWRP 3.0.2-r5 custom recovery;
3. Flash a custom ROM of your choosing, or, according to your preference, clean flash a Stock Android ROM. (Many custom ROMs come pre-rooted, while others, including full stock ROMs, require flashing a superuser script via TWRP).
Here is a great guide for commonly asked questions on the Moto G 2015, and should point you in the right direction:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/help/faq-frequently-questions-motorola-moto-t3259248