Confused about specifics, would appreciate clarification - Captivate General

Hi all,
I'm attempting to upgrade my Galaxy S Captivate (Rogers) 2.2 stock phone, although it is rooted and unlocked currently. I've read many of the plethora of threads both here and elsewhere, but in all honesty it is a bit overwhelming and I was hoping to get some clarification on some of the specifics and was hoping people here could help.
1) I was hoping to upgrade to 2.3, either stock or a custom ROM. Which ones are good and stable? There are really so many now, I would appreciate a few suggestions. I've looked through many of the threads, but can't really make up my mind.
2) After I choose a ROM, what are the steps for my phone. Should I unroot? Or at least remove the unlock? I was hoping to maybe just have a list of things I should look for in the guides so I know that they're accurate to my specific device and setup.
3) Just to confirm, I should be able to root and unlock with the new ROMs on 2.3, right? Same for lagfix, that was pretty damn useful.
4) Are there any modems which are better than others? Do I do that separately?
Sorry if I seem a bit confused here. Any help people could provide would be much appreciated.
Thanks!

Lucky75 said:
Hi all,
I'm attempting to upgrade my Galaxy S Captivate (Rogers) 2.2 stock phone, although it is rooted and unlocked currently. I've read many of the plethora of threads both here and elsewhere, but in all honesty it is a bit overwhelming and I was hoping to get some clarification on some of the specifics and was hoping people here could help.
1) I was hoping to upgrade to 2.3, either stock or a custom ROM. Which ones are good and stable? There are really so many now, I would appreciate a few suggestions. I've looked through many of the threads, but can't really make up my mind.
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My experience (in alphabetical order)
Continuum
Mosaic
Serendipity
Lucky75 said:
2) After I choose a ROM, what are the steps for my phone. Should I unroot? Or at least remove the unlock? I was hoping to maybe just have a list of things I should look for in the guides so I know that they're accurate to my specific device and setup.
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Custom ROMs (kernels) are already rooted. Nothing to do there.
Lucky75 said:
3) Just to confirm, I should be able to root and unlock with the new ROMs on 2.3, right? Same for lagfix, that was pretty damn useful.
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Most (not all) kernels have a lagfix (EXT4 file system) option, some don't. It seems RFS has been behaving well for most on 2.3.
Lucky75 said:
4) Are there any modems which are better than others? Do I do that separately?
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Every ROM will have one preloaded by the ROM dev. Modems are very often (geographical) area specific. They're quick and painless to flash so try out a few.
Read/study to info guides and tech terms. And especially- always follow the instruction of the ROM dev before installing- it will help you tremendously.

Thanks for the reply mate. So, I was thinking of using continuum, and I was just hoping to confirm everything as I understand it.
I'm looking at this thread: http://www.team-continuum.net/forum...ses/(guide)general-installation-instructions/
And at this thread: http://www.team-continuum.net/forum...lease)(rom)continuum-6-1-xxjvq-android-2-3-4/
1) My device is NOT the i9000, correct? (Galaxy S Captivate from rogers, I think it's the i896?)
Current Firmware: 2.2
Baseband: I896UXJL1
Kernel: 2.6.32.9
Should I have any problems?
2) I shouldn't need to re-lock my phone or anything. I use titanium backup to copy everything off my phone (I just used the batch backup)
3) Then I update the bootloader with this one (I897UCKF1), and I assume I just download and run the executable while connected?
4) Then I flash the non-i9000 kernel with odin?
5) Finally, I put the phone into recovery, and install continuum from the SD.
6) What apps do I restore from titanium? Just the apps? Or can I move some system settings over too? Might be a bit dangerous.
7) Does doing all of this wipe everything on my internal SD card? And should I take out my external SD before doing all this?
Is that correct, or am I missing something?
Thanks!

Problems can always happen with humans in the mix, but if you follow proper directions you shouldn't have any.
1. No problem there (see answer 3).
2. Make sure you copy your Titanium backup file off of your phone as you will wipe everything during the ROM flash. Not sure what you mean by "re-lock"...
3. Again, just follow the instructions to the letter- icezar (Cezar - Continuum) does well to explain the process in his thread.
4 and 5. See answer 3.
6. Apps only. I may be corrected on this but I believe going from 2.2 to 2.3 it may be best just skip any data at all. As a general rule there are very few scenarios where you would ever load system data from Titanium Backup.

Everything you asked about could be answered by spending some time reading the forums. As for which ROM, only you can answer that. There is no "best" ROM because each person has different needs and ROMs can run differently from phone to phone. Next time, spend some time doing some searches, look through the ROM-specific stickies in Q&A, and read up in the developer's ROM thread in Dev. Personalized service is nice, but this is more of a do-it-yourself forum with helpful, unpaid volunteers.

Yes, and Kona was very helpful. Thanks for that mate.
As I mentioned before, I had indeed read many of the stickies, but there are simply too many versions of the same information and I got a bit confused. It's especially hard when the same device has many different models, and each model can have multiple ROMS, and each ROM has many different versions. Factor in unlocking and rooting, and there are a vast number of possible setups. For someone who hasn't loaded a custom ROM before, that can be a bit daunting. Even the threads that try to keep things in one place can sometimes add to the confusion.

Lucky75 said:
Yes, and Kona was very helpful. Thanks for that mate.
As I mentioned before, I had indeed read many of the stickies, but there are simply too many versions of the same information and I got a bit confused. It's especially hard when the same device has many different models, and each model can have multiple ROMS, and each ROM has many different versions. Factor in unlocking and rooting, and there are a vast number of possible setups. For someone who hasn't loaded a custom ROM before, that can be a bit daunting. Even the threads that try to keep things in one place can sometimes add to the confusion.
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That's why it's better to post to an existing related thread rather than start a new one that just ends up adding to the clutter.

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Root/ROM question

Hi All,
I know this has been asked before, but I was hoping to get some more specific answers than I could find in other threads.
I have the galaxy S Captivate from Rogers, which is still running 2.1. Would I have any problems rooting/updating the rom or kernel with my specific version of the phone? Are there any hardware differences, or is it all just cosmetic? And if I update the ROM or root, will I have any problems upgrading to Froyo once rogers sees fit to release it?
In that regard, what would be the best ROM? Or should I do a kernel/firmware upgrade? Not too sure what the difference is really.
I'm also wondering what else I can do with the phone once it's rooted. I mean, I know that I can access all parts of the filesystem and have sudo which would be nice, but what do people specifically use it for? I guess it's needed for the ROMs and loaders and stuff.
Thanks! I appologize for any questions which have been asked in the past, but I wasn't sure that everything applied the same way with different versions of the phone.
Cheers
Also, does rooting my phone cause all my information to be deleted? What method of rooting would be the safest/easiest?
Thanks!
Edit: Ah, I see that it shouldn't, and that the z4root would probably be easiest.
Still not sure what ROM I should use or how to back it up, i'll search the forums some more but some links or posts would be much appreciated. There's an overload of information on here haha.
Cheers
Do a nandroid backup to be able to go back to your stock Rogers ROM if you want.
Any ROM will work.
Also back up your /efs folder to preserve your IMEI code #.
Worst case scenario is you flash a ROM that doesn't have Rogers APN info in it, in which case you can add it manually or switch to another ROM. Pretty sure all of.them do.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App

Rooting, Flashing, Backing up And Installing New Boot Loader

Hi guys,
I just got a SGS4G about a week ago and I would like to tweak it a little bit but I do have some concerns. This is my first android smartphone
Here are my concerns:
I would like to do a Backup of my ROM in case I ever want to go back to it. How could I do that? Do I need to install a bootloader other than the one that comes with the phone? if yes which one should I install?
I have rooted my phone and would like to get rid of a bunch of apps but was reading that if you remove some of the apps it could cause the phone to malfuncion. Is there a compiled a list of apps that should not be removed? or this is just not true?
When I'm ready to install a Stock ROM how do I do that? Via Odin? (I can look for some guide if it's via Odin)
Can anyone tell me what would be the benefit of installing Deodexed instead of using the Stock ROM?
Will i always me able to come back to my Stock ROM once i figure how to create a backup ROM?
Am I missing any important point that I should know about?
I would really appreciate if you can help clarify this doubts that I got before i try to do anything.
Thanks
i'm new to all of this too but ill try to answer some questions. Although, I think this thread should NOT be in development and should be in general. I personally have read through a lot of threads to get the answers that I was seeking for.
As far as backup goes, I think its possible through Odin via dump option? don't quote me on that, I have not had to do that before, nor have I read up on it. bootloader as far as i see, i did not need it.
there is a thread in here with virgin rom request, LOOK for it.
There is NO compiled list of apps that you can or cannot delete, but if you read, there is a dl for BLOATWARE, use that as a template to what you want deleted.
Right now, ODIN is the only way that you can flash your phone, and use the two roms listed in this development thread.
From what i read a deodexed rom just helps with file system and structure. I think?
you will always be able to go back to stock, if you have the virgin rom.
Imo, you should read up/skim through every thread in here to see what is available, problems people are having and the fixes for them. I know there is alot of information in here and it maybe overwhelming, but there were 172 views of this thread without any replies because us noobs need to READ/SEARCH. Thats the answers we'll get if we continue to make new threads. Just fyi if your new to forums.
Moved as not android development.
As newbie you should first read and use search
then if you dont see question you want, you just ask it
And about Roms , well i tried that deox v2.2 and didnt like it , switched to stock with removed bloat and love it more but thats for different thread
Well thanks for you answers and I do apologize for posting this here. I didn't know. I think i will go with what you have done. Stock ROM without bloatware. Did you flash the Stock ROM from this forum? or did you just deleted the apps one by one?
I will do the fota fix as well.
moshe22 said:
Hi guys,
I just got a SGS4G about a week ago and I would like to tweak it a little bit but I do have some concerns. This is my first android smartphone
Here are my concerns:
I would like to do a Backup of my ROM in case I ever want to go back to it. How could I do that? Do I need to install a bootloader other than the one that comes with the phone? if yes which one should I install?
I have rooted my phone and would like to get rid of a bunch of apps but was reading that if you remove some of the apps it could cause the phone to malfuncion. Is there a compiled a list of apps that should not be removed? or this is just not true?
When I'm ready to install a Stock ROM how do I do that? Via Odin? (I can look for some guide if it's via Odin)
Can anyone tell me what would be the benefit of installing Deodexed instead of using the Stock ROM?
Will i always me able to come back to my Stock ROM once i figure how to create a backup ROM?
Am I missing any important point that I should know about?
I would really appreciate if you can help clarify this doubts that I got before i try to do anything.
Thanks
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ClockWorkMod is the preferred way to backup your ROM, but it does not seem to be working on the SGS4G currently. I was messing with it one night and actually think I got it to backup the Rom one time but I cannot guarantee that I did because I was working on a supposed fix and did not get a chance to copy the backup file to my computer before it got wiped off my SD card. The process is called nandroid backup. If you have a virgin phone and want a clean backup of your ROM you might want to wait until the fix comes out for CWM.
Once you root your phone you can install Titainum backup. That allows you to backup your apps/Data/System settings. At least that’s what it says it does. From what I’ve read, the best way to backup your apps is with ADB which is part of the Software Development Kit. You can also use Android Commander which uses ADB to Pull your apps to your computer and make a backup there. Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010006 for info on SDK and ADB commands. There is also a direction to making new apps install to your SD card natively. This link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001202 also shows that command and how to Reverse/Check status of settings.
The Noobs guide to Oden covers the basics to flashing your ROM fairly well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
The [ROM-ODIN]T959VUVKB5 Stock + Root and [ROM-ODIN] Deodexed KB5 Enhanced v2.2 are the two ROMs that are working now for most people. The first is Odexed the second is Deodexed. Odexed is how it comes stock and takes up less room but making modifications or taking apks from other roms is hard, While Deodexed allows modders to work on the apks & easily change stuff like themes. (Description Taken from Damage's DamageControl Thread) My suggestion is to have some patience and wait for ClockWorkMod to be updated and working for the SGS4G before you dive in too deep. Take some time to look around the 4g posts and read as much as you can to get familiar with what is working and what is not. Check some of the threads with locks on them to see what not to do. There is a wealth of information in these pages.
ClockWorkMod is the preferred way to backup your ROM, but it does not seem to be working on the SGS4G currently. I was messing with it one night and actually think I got it to backup the Rom one time but I cannot guarantee that I did because I was working on a supposed fix and did not get a chance to copy the backup file to my computer before it got wiped off my SD card. The process is called nandroid backup. If you have a virgin phone and want a clean backup of your ROM you might want to wait until the fix comes out for CWM.
Once you root your phone you can install Titainum backup. That allows you to backup your apps/Data/System settings. At least that’s what it says it does. From what I’ve read, the best way to backup your apps is with ADB which is part of the Software Development Kit. You can also use Android Commander which uses ADB to Pull your apps to your computer and make a backup there. Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010006 for info on SDK and ADB commands. There is also a direction to making new apps install to your SD card natively. This link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001202 also shows that command and how to Reverse/Check status of settings.
The Noobs guide to Oden covers the basics to flashing your ROM fairly well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
The [ROM-ODIN]T959VUVKB5 Stock + Root and [ROM-ODIN] Deodexed KB5 Enhanced v2.2 are the two ROMs that are working now for most people. The first is Odexed the second is Deodexed. Odexed is how it comes stock and takes up less room but making modifications or taking apks from other roms is hard, While Deodexed allows modders to work on the apks & easily change stuff like themes. (Description Taken from Damage's DamageControl Thread) My suggestion is to have some patience and wait for ClockWorkMod to be updated and working for the SGS4G before you dive in too deep. Take some time to look around the 4g posts and read as much as you can to get familiar with what is working and what is not. Check some of the threads with locks on them to see what not to do. There is a wealth of information in these pages.
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Thanks man! Really helpful. I will read into these threads and probably will wait for the clockwork to work for SGS4G.
I really don't see the advantage of flashing to Deodexed. Maybe i'm missing something?

New to rooting - best/safest method for my phone?

Hi people, new to XDA, happy to be here.
I signed up so I could find out what the best/safest method is for rooting my SGS with my specific software version. By best, I mean most efficient, and by safest, I mean a method which retains all my data.
There are so many methods that I really don't know which one to choose. If you wish to simply link me to an existing thread, that's fine.
Attached is a screenshot of my phone's software specs.
Regards,
Nick
P.S When people talk about different methods for XXJVQ, XWJVP etc. are they referring to the Baseband version, or Kernel version/Build number, cause on my phone they're both different?
Welcome to XDA!
I do not own a SGS, however i can a\give you some advice. You can try going to the SGS forums to look for tools and guides. Keep in mind that Samsung devices use Odin to change Roms and stuff. Do you want to change your rom or just have root access? Either way you can retain your data by having backups.
You can backup your smses using apps such as sms backup form the market. contacts can be backed up with google.
Here's the SGS forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=665&order=desc
Also check if your version is i9000 or i9003 or any others. Just keep reading up and you'll get the idea
Good luck
Oh and they are refering to baseband. Kernel changes with the different roms.
Thanks for the prompt reply!
What do I do about backing up my apps?
droidoidoid said:
Hi people, new to XDA, happy to be here.
I signed up so I could find out what the best/safest method is for rooting my SGS with my specific software version. By best, I mean most efficient, and by safest, I mean a method which retains all my data.
There are so many methods that I really don't know which one to choose. If you wish to simply link me to an existing thread, that's fine.
Attached is a screenshot of my phone's software specs.
Regards,
Nick
P.S When people talk about different methods for XXJVQ, XWJVP etc. are they referring to the Baseband version, or Kernel version/Build number, cause on my phone they're both different?
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i used superoneclick to root my vodafone 845 succesfully it was completely safe i just had to enter bootloader mode and run the .bat file from the pc
here's the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
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droidoidoid said:
Thanks for the prompt reply!
What do I do about backing up my apps?
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try titanium backup you can restore/backup all of your apps/system apps
^ Cheers for this! I'm guessing Superoneclick is a program that simplifies the rooting process, but there's less learning involved?
I have Titanium Backup, however the issue is.... it looks as though the phone already has to be rooted for TB to work, but rooting the phone incorrectly could cause data loss if not backed up. Isn't this a catch 22? I could have it wrong though.
droidoidoid said:
^ Cheers for this! I'm guessing Superoneclick is a program that simplifies the rooting process, but there's less learning involved?
I have Titanium Backup, however the issue is.... it looks as though the phone already has to be rooted for TB to work, but rooting the phone incorrectly could cause data loss if not backed up. Isn't this a catch 22? I could have it wrong though.
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Yes, it simplifies the rooting process. Then again, why not try a custom rom by flashing through odin? Yes, theres a risk of losing your data. Theres a low chance though. good luck
I may as well update you guys.
Well, this is a little more technical than what I first thought, so I decided to do something simple to begin with - I used Odin to flash Gingerbread 2.3.4 into my phone. (I'm guessing you need to root your phone to flash a custom ROM, but not to flash the next version of the default Android OS like I just did, but correct me if I'm wrong here)
Anyway, the results are - I still have my contacts (cause they're on my sim) and media files, but my texts and free apps are gone. Why? Because I wrongly assumed that it would be the same as when I initially upgraded to Gingerbread through Kies (the official way). That is, all data is retained. The thing is, surely anything you download from the Market would be kept in your Google account, but obviously not.
Anyway, now that I have a feel for how Odin works, I'll go ahead do the root, followed by a custom ROM. I won't be using Superoneclick though, I like doing things the complicated way.
(to be honest I am a little pissed that my apps are gone, should've used MyBackupPro, a backup app that doesn't require root, but as always, I stumble upon these when it's too late)
okay then i just suggested you superoneclick because it was the safest and most convinient root method i ve ever used good luck rooting
Yay I'm rooted! Fun times! Didn't brick my phone or anything. Now begins the long journey of customising my phone as to how I want it. I guess a good place to start is to install MIUI.
droidoidoid said:
Yay I'm rooted! Fun times! Didn't brick my phone or anything. Now begins the long journey of customising my phone as to how I want it. I guess a good place to start is to install MIUI.
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have fun !
In response to my question...
"When people talk about different methods for XXJVQ, XWJVP etc. are they referring to the Baseband version, or Kernel version/Build number, cause on my phone they're both different?"
a guy on another forum said...
"They are talking about the Build Number and in your case its JVP. Baseband is your modem which basically is your service,battery life."
This conflicts with what you said about it. Can you clarify this for me?
Cheers

Followed video tut for rooting, now i'm lost. What's a ROM, and where do I start?

Hello, XDA! and, even though we haven't met yet, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE STUFF ON MY PHONE!!!!!! This is my first, and dreaded post.
I'm new to smartphones. My first was an iSUCK 3g. Now, I have the SGS4G! I'm totally new to this wprld, and every day, I'm being blown away by something new. Anyways, I have read two guides on this site already, but I'm still suffering from a little confusion. I think my problem comes from when I first rooted my phone. I was in a hurry to root it, because I needed to unlock the carrier permissions, so I could use my ATT sim. I hadn't found this site yet, sadly. I had tried a few things, to no avail, until I came across a you-tube video with some kid showing me how it's done, and other littler kids screaming in the background. Following the video step, by step, got it done, but he failed to go over, and explain what we were actually doing. Now, I don't know what ROM I have, or what kernel. It's not a big issue, because this phone now totally blows me away, especially the launchers.
I really enjoy this phone over the iSucks, becuase I like computers, and I'm more tech savvy than most. Perhaps that's where more of my confusion comes from... the terminology. So, on to the issue:
My RAM seems to run unusually high! with the GOtskmanager, it's always clocking between %72 - %79. I got RAM Manager Pro, which sometimes brings me down to %65 - %69, but it usually doesn't last long. I think I have it nailed down. I think it comes from certain apps that seem to run themselves. I have auto sync off, and I've DONE MY RESEARCH (some of which, I've yet to comprehend) I know not to use a task killer to routinely kill apps, and I know how the OS works, and allocates its RAM. So, I won't even worry about it if someone says these levels are normal.
Any tips on what I should do with my new phone? I saw a video that I can't find again, where this guy had his homescreen set up in such away, that the apps made this 3d cube of tiny boxes (apps) that moved like a rubik's cube. HOW DO I DO THAT!? It's not in any of the launchers I've tried. Anyways, thank you once again, XDA, you guys are awesome. I'm just a newb. Thank you to the users who made the guides!!
Ram is at 84% right now, NOT DOING ANYTHING!
Look at my guide that i have linked in my sig and read through the second post to find a custom rom that you like (i suggest Valhalla Black) and my guide tells you how to flash it. If you have questions, feel free to ask in the guide thread or pm me
And I believe the 3d cubes are part of SPB Shell launcher
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium
Thank you Julz! I have read your guide thoroughly. I know to search, and research before asking questions. Like I said, I'm just slightly still confused. Did I not put a custom ROM on my phone when I rooted it?
Do I have to factory restore, or uninstall the current ROM in some way before getting another?
Also, I think I fixed the RAM issue. What is normal levels for my device? I can't find normal RAM levels listed anywhere on the net for my device.
Read the first link in my signature as an addition to Juls' guide. After rooting GB you need a custom kernel. Look for SGS Kernel Flasher in either guide to take your next step.
I think you should research more. But to help you a bit...
How you rooted your phone? You know about ClockWorkMod Recovery? Know about Odin or Heimdall?
Also, there is a section in Setting that tells a lot of your phone that is called About Phone.
chris31jct said:
I think you should research more. But to help you a bit...
How you rooted your phone? You know about ClockWorkMod Recovery? Know about Odin or Heimdall?
Also, there is a section in Setting that tells a lot of your phone that is called About Phone.
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Firmware: 2.3.6
Baseband: TE59VUVKJ6
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-sms-kj6-vo.1.0+
Build: GINGERBREAD.VUVKJ6
I used Heimdall to do this, as per the video guide I followed. I just downloaded Odin, for future tasks. I love the Norse theme to this stuff, I know the Eddas practically by heart, as well as the elder Futhark, and actual history of the ancient Scandanavian Vikings.
Be sure to keep your ODIN and Heimdall ports seperate. You can get by with CWM for custom ROM's now except to recover or clean your phone up. Read the Gremlin Remover thread to consider using after a custom ROM flash or two. Your other option is KJ6 Heimdall One-Click.
lumin30 said:
Be sure to keep your ODIN and Heimdall ports seperate. You can get by with CWM for custom ROM's now except to recover or clean your phone up. Read the Gremlin Remover thread to consider using after a custom ROM flash or two. Your other option is KJ6 Heimdall One-Click.
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Thank you very much for the tip. Advice heeded! Now, do you know anything about my ram? Why my Go Task mnger is always reading that my RAM is almost always above 70% used?
Read the guide I mentioned above. Get on a custom ROM. Then look at RAM. You are on stock bloated ROM at the moment.
lumin30 said:
Read the guide I mentioned above. Get on a custom ROM. Then look at RAM. You are on stock bloated ROM at the moment.
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I've read the guides, the only thing I don't understand about that process, is that, will I need to set up all my apps again, am I starting my phone from scratch? Which ROM would you personally suggest?
When I'm using a custom ROM, am I restricted in any way? Can I still use the market?
Did you read the guide in the first link in my signature as suggested above?
It is best to start fresh when flashing a new ROM. A lot of apps have back up features within the app for settings and such (i.e. GoLauncher).
I recommend Valhalla Black. But all the 2.3.6 ROM's are great.
No restrictions. Except maybe watching movies in the market on rooted devices.
lumin30 said:
Did you read the guide in the first link in my signature as suggested above?
It is best to start fresh when flashing a new ROM. A lot of apps have back up features within the app for settings and such (i.e. GoLauncher).
I recommend Valhalla Black. But all the 2.3.6 ROM's are great.
No restrictions. Except maybe watching movies in the market on rooted devices.
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I didn't read that guide, becuase I'm not on Froyo
Read it.
One more thing. You say start from scratch... Factory Reset? So I will need to root again? Also, I had to unlock the phone to use with ATT. Will I have to do that again?
I mean with your apps. Factory reset won't unroot you. It isn't a bad idea to do a factory reset between flashings as a precautionary measure.
You shouldn't have to unlock again either.
Wodensman said:
Also, I had to unlock the phone to use with ATT. Will I have to do that again?
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I'm on ATT as well and flash my phone all the time. I've never lost the unlock.
My brother, thank you so very much for the info! I have been reading the guide you mentioned, and now I know why. 2 guides in there! I can't thank you enough, I've hit thanks on all your replies here, because little by little, you're really helping my understanding of it all. It must be frustrating trying to help people like myself! Thanks for trying to push this stuff through my thick head! However, I've encountered another problem, following your guide:
Trying to back up my efs folder, using Astro File Manager... says it cannot do it! I guess this means I need something that requests superuser permissions?
Any program you would recommend? or can I just do it manually with my computer, like save it on my comp or something?
I recommend starting where it talks about SGS Kernel Flasher. Then once you have the custom kernel with CWM - do and nandroid back up and save the nandroid back up on your computer for safe keeping. That will have your efs folder within it. And I recommended Super Manager
And flash this kernel -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25115050&postcount=1
I guess the kernel I have, doesn't have CWM. So, if I flash a new one, do I need to delete the one I have first or anything? Or just go about flashing a new one, like I never did one in the first place? I can try to find the video guide I followed if you think it will help.

newb: after root then what

Hi,
So I think this thread is pretty common to most other phones, but I couldn't really find a stickied one or anything of the sorts? After using the search function to the best of my ability, I would like to begin a thread on what's most important after rooting.
From what I understand, Supersu and BusyBox are a must (taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296&highlight=no+such+file+or+directory)
Then, I went to remove the animation and music from startup (taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645818&highlight=
remove+startup&page=2)
Last, I attempted this but I don't know if it actually works. This one-click tether tool has me guessing at its methodologies, but it seems to be working at the moment so I am happy? Haven't actually tested it, but here is link I used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677261
Debranding seems like a great idea! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634171 (edit1)
Unlocking bootloader, taken from the huge index of guides, but specifically this one. (edit2)
Getting TWRP, from their website: I used the automated one because I tried downloading and launching with no luck. Backing up currently, very easy through Goo Manager; all I did was click "boot to recovery" or whatever from the main page of the app. (edit3)
Here is how to disable software update/upgrade and generally protect yourself from AT&T updating your phone (don't know how to describe it) (edit4)
I humbly submit all the knowledge I have of my phone to the rest of the users. My technical experience is limited, am scared of recommended bootloader unlocks, but am willing to help bundle for newbies like me.
And thank you devs and mods for making this all come together!
(edit1) Because I was looking in the wrong section, I found this thread about the post I made later. Hopefully someone can learn from my mistake? For mod, should this be placed into Q&A at this point? Thanks!
(edit2) Having lots of fun just exploring what other people have recommended me do. So far, got root access and unlocked bootloader, am in the process of getting the "flash recovery" or something to that extent? Unsure of how much more research I should do before continuing to dive in! Thanks for all the input, will keep updating if only to provide log for myself, hoping that some users will find this helpful still
(edit3) Found time to play with TWRP! Really want to get the Sense 4.1 stuff, but scared!
(edit4) Forgot to update with the old post I found to work around the system update thing.
(edit5) useful thread I'm reading through for more information on odex/deodex, am about to update again soon so that I can explore roms and the such!
nutnub said:
Hi,
So I think this thread is pretty common to most other phones, but I couldn't really find a stickied one or anything of the sorts? After using the search function to the best of my ability, I would like to begin a thread on what's most important after rooting.
From what I understand, Supersu and BusyBox are a must (taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296&highlight=no+such+file+or+directory)
Then, I went to remove the animation and music from startup (taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645818&highlight=
remove+startup&page=2)
Last, I attempted this but I don't know if it actually works. This one-click tether tool has me guessing at its methodologies, but it seems to be working at the moment so I am happy? Haven't actually tested it, but here is link I used: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677261
Request: if someone could divulge how to remove the annoying Software Update message/prompt, I would be much obliged
I humbly submit all the knowledge I have of my phone to the rest of the users. My technical experience is limited, am scared of recommended bootloader unlocks, but am willing to help bundle for newbies like me.
And thank you devs and mods for making this all come together!
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Guessing you have AT&T HOX and you rooted it, next steps are explained here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 ....
Have fun
Sent from my SGH-I777 using Tapatalk 2
if your on att, use the link above my post. you want to go in this order.
root>super cid>unlock bootloader>flash recovery>make backup>save Sd card contents to PC>flash a rom "optional"
frozen at system update
XsMagical said:
if your on att, use the link above my post. you want to go in this order.
root>super cid>unlock bootloader>flash recovery>make backup>save Sd card contents to PC>flash a rom "optional"
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I'm in a little bit of a pickle because I left my phone alone and luckily when I came back, I stopped the system update download at about 50%. So I'm paranoid to turn on any radio function. Would you happen to know if the methods you used above will disable the system update (permanently)?
As soon as I can get off this dilemma, I do want to try to unlock the bootloader, though it is a bit intimidating to realize that I could break my warranty if I fail...
Thanks in advance! Learning lots from this grand adventure with my AT&T HOX
Do a factory reset for now then run setup, after that go to system updates and uncheck, auto update or what ever it says. That will hold you off for now
Sent from my Nocturnal'd ONE XL Running Sense 4.1
If your rooted, use a file manager, go to the /cache folder and delete the chunk of the ota that downloaded, then untick sys. Updates in settings. Just a 2nd method.
if your rooted iI would do a factory reset and then use the one click unlock bootloader method to unlock the bootloader. then from the play store download Goo manager and from there flash the twrp recovery and finally flash a custom roms i recommend the nocturnal rom
edit3
XsMagical said:
if your on att, use the link above my post. you want to go in this order.
root>super cid>unlock bootloader>flash recovery>make backup>save Sd card contents to PC>flash a rom "optional"
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kt086 said:
if your rooted iI would do a factory reset and then use the one click unlock bootloader method to unlock the bootloader. then from the play store download Goo manager and from there flash the twrp recovery and finally flash a custom roms i recommend the nocturnal rom
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Can either of you point me to where to figure out all these rom things? To be honest, I just want to ask you guys straight out but I feel that's disrespectful to all the knowledge you have. I'm seeking more information about how the flashing thing works, whether it wipes everything outside of my twrp backup and/or whether they're exclusive to anything to that effect. Specifically, I'm debating between "[ROM][8/3] - Stock Rooted AT&T 2.20.502.7 - Android 4.0.4 - Odex or De-Odex", "[ROM][AT&T][08/18/12][2.29.207.1]Sandstorm_v2.1", and "[ROM][8/17] Stock Rooted 2.29.207.1 - Sense 4.1! o2 German Carrier!"
Any place that you can point me in the right direction would help me (and other readers for this post). Thanks again so much!
nutnub said:
Can either of you point me to where to figure out all these rom things? To be honest, I just want to ask you guys straight out but I feel that's disrespectful to all the knowledge you have. I'm seeking more information about how the flashing thing works, whether it wipes everything outside of my twrp backup and/or whether they're exclusive to anything to that effect. Specifically, I'm debating between "[ROM][8/3] - Stock Rooted AT&T 2.20.502.7 - Android 4.0.4 - Odex or De-Odex", "[ROM][AT&T][08/18/12][2.29.207.1]Sandstorm_v2.1", and "[ROM][8/17] op Stock Rooted 2.29.207.1 - Sense 4.1! o2 German Carrier!"
Any place that you can point me in the right direction would help me (and other readers for this post). Thanks again so much!
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XDA is not a help site, and we don't encourage members to create help threads just to get someone else to show you, what you could have looked up yourself. The answers are there, if you put some effort into it. This is the wrong section, btw.
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