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looking for insight regarding currently available ROM's that would offer the closest thing to CM9 (from what I’ve read CM9 is only available on Tegra3 handsets)? Looking for a 'stock android experience' or AOSP based build... your suggestions are much appreciated.
currently unlocked, running 1.85FW, with CWT recovery...
many thanx,
The closest thing available right now would probably be CleanROM Dev edition 2.0. Check it out in the development section.
CleanROM DE 2 is what I'm running and it's great. It's pretty clean.
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
100%digital said:
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
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Clean ROM DE is different from what you are running. Check the dev section. As for an AOSP ROM...who knows. There are a lot of factors involved.
Rabble rabble rabble.
If I understand correctly, you'll have to wait until we get S-Off so we can flash boot.img. Once that's achieved, it will be possible to flash full ROM's. But there are still a lot of things that need to be figured out, like getting the camera working, Wifi, GPS, data, etc.
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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You know that never happens =)
jmattp said:
If I understand correctly, you'll have to wait until we get S-Off so we can flash boot.img. Once that's achieved, it will be possible to flash full ROM's. But there are still a lot of things that need to be figured out, like getting the camera working, Wifi, GPS, data, etc.
Maybe the Cyanogenmod developers will get lucky and it'll work out of the box.
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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eraste said:
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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Because the only device running stock Android 4.0 is the Galaxy Nexus. I've gone through several of them and they all had the same purple tint, weird crosshatch pattern visible on white images, distortion/noise at low brightness, and other issues related to the Pentile SAMOLED display. Besides that, I can't think of any other device that runs stock Android.
I especially can't think of any Android phones that look as nice as the One X. I like its unibody construction, machined earpiece grill, soft-touch case (the black one anyway, not sure if the white is glossy), the way the glass is slightly above the case like old iPod Nano, and the display itself is really good.
Before Ice Cream Sandiwch, we had maybe the Motorola Droid, the Nexus One, and then the Nexus S. I hate physical keyboards, the Droid was out. Currently, there aren't many choices if you want a vanilla Android device. Actually... there's only one, and the display is a disappointment to me.
In my opinion, the best Android phone available right now is the One X. Knowing that developers are always making custom ROM's for the majority of Android devices, I know that I don't need to let the software dictate my purchasing decision.
eraste said:
I've never understood that rationale, buy an HTC phone that you know will be packed with sense etc then go back in time to bare bones android. Why not save your money and buy something like a Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. With a barebones android os? Lol my rant
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You realize those manufacturers slap their own crap on top of stock android too, right? Samsung - TouchWiz, Moto - Blur, LG - Whatever the heck they do. Unless you're buying a Nexus device then you're getting a manufacturer skin.
Personally, I buy for the hardware. Though, the stock software has to be tolerable enough to last me until custom roms start coming out.
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
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so without nand access the One X isn't going to see any AOSP builds? I’m not sure I entirely understand how nand is that important... I mean if you can boot a your own ROM, who cares.
Does HTC typically release the source for their phones as ‘pside15’ indicated that is an important factor in creating ROMs?
Seems like the Cyanogenmod team already has AOSP build for the Tegra handset. HTC One X (with Tegra) source isn’t released…
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That's not correct. We can flash boot images just fine through fastboot now. Just need s-off to flash kernels through recovery. Once HTC releases the source for our phone more ROMs will follow, including AOSP ROMs I'm sure. Source is needed to help create custom kernels.
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Thanks for the correction.
100%digital said:
Thanks for the input, been running CleanRom v2.2 since yesterday afternoon, and I must say not very impressive at all... guess I’ll just need to keep waiting for that true android experience I crave so badly.
The change log listed for CleanRom v2.2. does not give any indication that carrierIQ has been removed (which is another huge disappointment for this ROM)
any idea how long we're looking at for a decent AOSP ROM to be released? month? two months?
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qft.
I LOVE the htc one x for the hardware and its physical appeal, but i also cant wait for some stock android ROMs. The aroma one thats out gets pretty darn close, but its no CM9. Im hoping that in the next two weeks with our new freedom with the unlocked bootloader etc etc.. that we will get more than 2 roms... thats ALL I see currently in the dev section. I shouldnt complain though because obviously I'm no dev.
I feel like the AT&T version was a waste of my money though :/ it just doesnt have enough attention. The only reason I have it instead of the tegra 3 is because of the battery and lte. Otherwise there is literally no other reason I should keep this phone. Does anyone know if the battery life has been improved at all for the international version?
dufort said:
qft.
I LOVE the htc one x for the hardware and its physical appeal, but i also cant wait for some stock android ROMs. The aroma one thats out gets pretty darn close, but its no CM9. Im hoping that in the next two weeks with our new freedom with the unlocked bootloader etc etc.. that we will get more than 2 roms... thats ALL I see currently in the dev section. I shouldnt complain though because obviously I'm no dev.
I feel like the AT&T version was a waste of my money though :/ it just doesnt have enough attention. The only reason I have it instead of the tegra 3 is because of the battery and lte. Otherwise there is literally no other reason I should keep this phone. Does anyone know if the battery life has been improved at all for the international version?
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I'm working on one myself....but because I do not want to release trash and because I have been limited on time over the last week or two...I have not released yet. Sit tight and chill out. Phone hasnt even been out for a month yet...
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Good to see you h8 I liked your stuff on the infuse you taught me a lot
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h8rift said:
I'm working on one myself....but because I do not want to release trash and because I have been limited on time over the last week or two...I have not released yet. Sit tight and chill out. Phone hasnt even been out for a month yet...
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Oh I'm sitting tight, stoked to see what the future is with this device. Just had to vent a bit :banghead:
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100%digital said:
so without nand access the One X isn't going to see any AOSP builds? I’m not sure I entirely understand how nand is that important... I mean if you can boot a your own ROM, who cares.
Does HTC typically release the source for their phones as ‘pside15’ indicated that is an important factor in creating ROMs?
Seems like the Cyanogenmod team already has AOSP build for the Tegra handset. HTC One X (with Tegra) source isn’t released…
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Source has been released for one x tegra...
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There are only so many ways you can debloat the stock roms lol.
Things will pick up once the source is released and devs can start going crazy.
+1
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Because the only device running stock Android 4.0 is the Galaxy Nexus. I've gone through several of them and they all had the same purple tint, weird crosshatch pattern visible on white images, distortion/noise at low brightness, and other issues related to the Pentile SAMOLED display. Besides that, I can't think of any other device that runs stock Android.
I especially can't think of any Android phones that look as nice as the One X. I like its unibody construction, machined earpiece grill, soft-touch case (the black one anyway, not sure if the white is glossy), the way the glass is slightly above the case like old iPod Nano, and the display itself is really good.
Before Ice Cream Sandiwch, we had maybe the Motorola Droid, the Nexus One, and then the Nexus S. I hate physical keyboards, the Droid was out. Currently, there aren't many choices if you want a vanilla Android device. Actually... there's only one, and the display is a disappointment to me.
In my opinion, the best Android phone available right now is the One X. Knowing that developers are always making custom ROM's for the majority of Android devices, I know that I don't need to let the software dictate my purchasing decision.
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Exactly!
Hi Blaze friends,
I'm looking for a budget device for some family members and am curious if the Blaze still fits the bill. I'll be able to buy them new at $130 off contract and am looking to upgrade from a Galaxy S 4g, mostly because they're having some hardware issues.
My goal is something less than $150 and I think this is the best Android option I'm able to find. I'm mostly considering this or a Lumia 521 (no need to warm me about WP8 ).
Also, if you guys still suggest buying a Blaze, could you also recommend a rock solid ROM (stock is a valid option if y'all say it's good) that won't require regular tech support?
Many thanks from a Nexus/AOKP guy!
-Jax
Jaxidian said:
Hi Blaze friends,
I'm looking for a budget device for some family members and am curious if the Blaze still fits the bill. I'll be able to buy them new at $130 off contract and am looking to upgrade from a Galaxy S 4g, mostly because they're having some hardware issues.
My goal is something less than $150 and I think this is the best Android option I'm able to find. I'm mostly considering this or a Lumia 521 (no need to warm me about WP8 ).
Also, if you guys still suggest buying a Blaze, could you also recommend a rock solid ROM (stock is a valid option if y'all say it's good) that won't require regular tech support?
Many thanks from a Nexus/AOKP guy!
-Jax
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I recommend getting this phone! It's amazing. Especially with all the new ROMs we are receiving from the amazing developers on here! A good solid ROM is Dirty Unicorns (my opinion) but it would vary among other users. Always read the bug list though. Its fairly stable now and I'm sure most of the bugs are squashed. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask this spectacular community!
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I recommend getting this phone! It's amazing. Especially with all the new ROMs we are receiving from the amazing developers on here! A good solid ROM is Dirty Unicorns (my opinion) but it would vary among other users. Always read the bug list though. Its fairly stable now and I'm sure most of the bugs are squashed. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask this spectacular community!
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Thank you. I really appreciate the feedback!
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Thank you. I really appreciate the feedback!
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this phone is good and bad.
figure out if you need the size. If you don't want to go larger, this is about the best phone you can find.
There are some restrictions though. This isn't one of the mainstream CyanogenMod phones so doesn't get updates as fast as some others, even older ones. Also since it's been orphaned by Samsung, we probably will have a kernel problem within the next few generations of OS.
Also. The tiny internal storage has been a problem. Mostly this means you have to use a SD card and then install a 3rd party Camera app to allow for storage to the SD card, which can't be done automatically. I'd suggest Snap Camera or Camera JB+ for this (both $).
I have one with a cracked screen that I'm selling for $50. It's on T-Mobile right now though.
I wouldn't pay $130 for it since they are going on Craigslist for about $90 in good or near new shape. But I'm okay buying and selling used and do it regularly so that's a factor.
Overall. I'd go with a SGS II instead of the Blaze if size and the small price difference isn't a big deal for you. The SGSII has similar specs and a larger screen but with better XDA support as well as a lot more people out there with them, so the community is a bit stronger.
Just my not so humble opinion.
Just bought this phone for $130 new from HSN for my mom (her very first smartphone). What's the latest official update for this phone, I know it at least has ICS correct? Is it still stuck on that or has it been officially updated to JB? Thanks guys!
mackster248 said:
Just bought this phone for $130 new from HSN for my mom (her very first smartphone). What's the latest official update for this phone, I know it at least has ICS correct? Is it still stuck on that or has it been officially updated to JB? Thanks guys!
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You're stuck on ICS unless you go aftermarket. They've stopped releasing updates for this phone. That said, ICS isn't too shabby.
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You're stuck on ICS unless you go aftermarket. They've stopped releasing updates for this phone. That said, ICS isn't too shabby.
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Thanks man! Tempted to root it... But I suppose ICS will suffice.
mackster248 said:
Thanks man! Tempted to root it... But I suppose ICS will suffice.
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If it were for me, I'd root it. If for somebody I don't want to provide tech support for, I'd leave it.
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If it were for me, I'd root it. If for somebody I don't want to provide tech support for, I'd leave it.
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Lol yeah my thoughts exactly. Does it require a micro SIM or regular one?
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Lol yeah my thoughts exactly. Does it require a micro SIM or regular one?
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Regular
I'm in the same boat as mackster in that I bought it on HSN and am now waiting for the shipment... on the bright side it's not for my mom.
I'm not one to spend as mush as I might on a laptop for a phone so this will be a step up from my Exhibit II 4g from two years ago. Faster processor and larger screen... I'm happy with that for $129.00
I've rooted and tried various roms on my Exhibit so I'm scannig the roms availalbe here now. If anyone has already done the heavy lifting I'm open to suggestions for your opinions on the best rom. My needs in order of importance are:
1. STABILITY
2. Battery life
3. Photos (and ability to save to external DS)
4. Bloat removal (in rom if possible)
4. Wi-Fi calling still functioning
5. Root would be nice (i have many apks)
6. Mapping (aka driving directions) works
I see many roms listing problems with the compass and the camera. I guess I would like a newer version of droid but if ICS meets all of my above needs then I'd be perfectly happy with that too.
Anyone have suggestions?
I have a feeling that you should be looking at mature ICS ROMs. I don't have the phone so I can't say for sure, but that's my gut feeling based on your requirements.
If I remember right, you might want to stay on stock ics. Wifi calling is a no-go on jb. Not sure if it's up and running on jb 4.3, but know for sure it's not on 4.1.2.
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If I remember right, you might want to stay on stock ics. Wifi calling is a no-go on jb. Not sure if it's up and running on jb 4.3, but know for sure it's not on 4.1.2.
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I don't think WiFi Calling has been ported to any non-stock-based JB ROMs for any devices. Definitely not available for general use.
Thanks for the replies... I don't suppose there's a bloatfree stock ROM like I had found for my Exhibit? Otherwise I guess it's time to dust off Titanium and start freezing/uninstalling bloat
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Thanks for the replies... I don't suppose there's a bloatfree stock ROM like I had found for my Exhibit? Otherwise I guess it's time to dust off Titanium and start freezing/uninstalling bloat
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There are several AOSP-based options. I can't vouch for the quality of them so you'll have to play with them to find out. But I'd stick with what seems like mature ICS offerings though.
Where is this thank button... I don't seem to see it.
Found it
I didn't expect much, I know the focus on this isn't really the android aspect but more so the game streaming... But there was some promising things (albeit overly ambitious) like the ouya port over.
But here we are six (seven?) months out and only really have recoveries which don't serve much of a purpose without any ROMs outside of backups.
What is your guys' opinions? Is there anything you'd even wanna flash on these things?
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I didn't expect much, I know the focus on this isn't really the android aspect but more so the game streaming... But there was some promising things (albeit overly ambitious) like the ouya port over.
But here we are six (seven?) months out and only really have recoveries which don't serve much of a purpose without any ROMs outside of backups.
What is your guys' opinions? Is there anything you'd even wanna flash on these things?
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If people are like me i don't feel the need for that stuff because the device works really well. I normally use all that stuff but this time i have no interest in it. Same with my Nexus 7 2013. Normally if i want a few custom options i use the xposed framework tweaks. I have a reboot option. Themes that were ported from cm10. De-bloated it myself. Added custom tiles to the drop down and also changed the way the tiles worked. Such as tapping the wifi turns it on and off instead of bringing you to the wifi settings. I also added more play store compatibility. I think a lot of people want custom roms for pure android as well. That's not an issue though. I love doing it all myself.
The same here i only use modules from xposed framework, i really like the device stock, the only think that i want it is a better kernel, sometimes when I'm playing games like dead trigger 2 or metal slug, is a kind of laggy maybe a better kernel would be great, but for the rom is ok having the stock with obviously the latest otas from nvidia
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I didn't expect much, I know the focus on this isn't really the android aspect but more so the game streaming... But there was some promising things (albeit overly ambitious) like the ouya port over.
But here we are six (seven?) months out and only really have recoveries which don't serve much of a purpose without any ROMs outside of backups.
What is your guys' opinions? Is there anything you'd even wanna flash on these things?
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There isn't that much development for the shield because i dont know why the heck nvidia only decided to release the device for america and not Europe and the rest or the world, NVIDIA the world is bigger than AMERICA, so only the people that have imported from america would have the device which is a shame as there are lots of people who love this device but cant get their hands on it because its not released in their country :crying: I had to import mine because its still not released here in the UK
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There isn't that much development for the shield because i dont know why the heck nvidia only decided to release the device for america and not Europe and the rest or the world, NVIDIA the world is bigger than AMERICA, so only the people that have imported from america would have the device which is a shame as there are lots of people who love this device but cant get their hands on it because its not released in their country :crying: I had to import mine because its still not released here in the UK
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I believe that NVIDIA did not sell much in America.
or certainly NVIDIA would release the device in more countries.
I'm looking for a replacement for my daughters current tablet. She has a 2012 Nexus 7.
Would the TF300T still be a worthwhile upgrade? They're selling rather inexpensively for $100 refurbished.
I know cm has a 12.1 rom for it, how does the tablet run with Lollipop?
Thanks!
Don't. It has lollipop but the whole thing is very slow.
Chris
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Runs well on KatKiss Lollipop and Katsmallow, but don't know how it compares with Nexus 2012.
Read the comments in development section for ROMs
I have both the Nexus 7 (2012) and the TF300T. My Nexus 7 doesn't get used as much these days, since it has a lot of lag with lollipop on it. I did turn off a lot of sync options on it and that helped with some of the lag.
I mostly use my Transformer. With Katkiss lollipop on it, it is very responsive and works much better than the Nexus 7. I haven't tried katkiss marshmallow on it yet, but the fact that there is still development support going on in this forum, it has a good amount of life left to it. Katkiss seems to have better features than CM 12.1.
Thanks for the information guys. I appreciate it!
Works great w/ katkiss use it everyday. It has a tegra3 GPU and over clock's the 4-core CPU flawlessly (1.7 GHz?)
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I'm looking for a replacement for my daughters current tablet. She has a 2012 Nexus 7.
Would the TF300T still be a worthwhile upgrade? They're selling rather inexpensively for $100 refurbished.
I know cm has a 12.1 rom for it, how does the tablet run with Lollipop?
Thanks!
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I have been using my TF300T for 3-1/2 years now. Every so often I get the bug to shop for a new tablet. After trying a few of the "Latest technology" I have concluded that there is nothing on the market that tops this tablet. I am currently running the latest Katshmallow OS (010). If I had a need for another one I would buy it without a second thought.
I am sure this will not always be the case, and I don't do any heavy gaming or video viewing so results may vary depending on how you use it. But for now and given the price I would say, "Go for it!"
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Don't. It has lollipop but the whole thing is very slow.
Chris
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Haven't found this to be the case at all. Do you even own this tablet? Just curious.
Yes, I own the tablet and I am the cyanogenmod device maintainer.
I think that this device is utter crap and there are gazillions of tablets which work much better than this one.
If keyboard is a must, then you have much less choices I agree.
This tablet (like the nexus 7 (old version), and other transformers) suffer from underperforming nand flash storage. Just try to Google it. My guess is that katkiss and other roms perform better than CM because they overclock and because they switch off the sync after writes, so the nand performance issues show a bit less frequently.
(No criticism: katkiss is very well maintained - he does a great job and its maybe the only way to keep the device usable).
Chris
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Yes, I own the tablet and I am the cyanogenmod device maintainer.
I think that this device is utter crap and there are gazillions of tablets which work much better than this one.
If keyboard is a must, then you have much less choices I agree.
This tablet (like the nexus 7 (old version), and other transformers) suffer from underperforming nand flash storage. Just try to Google it. My guess is that katkiss and other roms perform better than CM because they overclock and because they switch off the sync after writes, so the nand performance issues show a bit less frequently.
(No criticism: katkiss is very well maintained - he does a great job and its maybe the only way to keep the device usable).
Chris
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I can google any device on the market and find negative reviews about it. But, in 3 years of using this tablet, I have been very pleased with it, at least since I moved away from stock, (which I did within a month of purchasing it). And since Katshmallow came out I have been even more impressed with the performance of this "underperforming" device.
I am also aware of the common complaints against it. Whatever the reasons for my personal experience with it, I have no major complaints against it. It runs all of the apps I use quite well with no lag or crashes. I watch Netflix and Hulu videos on it without any stuttering or buffering. It syncs with my Bluetooth devices and the audio works well. I don't do any gaming with the exception of HayDay and Pyramid Solitaire, so possibly that makes a difference.
Maybe I got lucky and have an exception to the rule. I'm sure there are other newer tablets on the market that outperform it. But as it stands now, based on my personal experience, if this tablet dies today, I would do everything I could to find another of the same model.
On another note, I appreciate the development done with CyangenMod for all Android devices. Without that development, a lot of the other custom ROM's would not exist. Thank you for your contributions to that development.
All of that said, I guess we just have to agree to disagree about the TF300T.
Well I bit the bullet and purchased the Lenovo Tab2 A10-70F tablet for both kids. They won't get them until Christmas but I've been setting them up and upgraded them to Lollipop. My experience so far is that it's a nice tablet. I get the feeling this will be to the kids what the 2012 Nexus was to me when I first got it which was an amazing tablet!
Thanks for the input guys; I do appreciate it!
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Yes, I own the tablet and I am the cyanogenmod device maintainer.
I think that this device is utter crap and there are gazillions of tablets which work much better than this one.
If keyboard is a must, then you have much less choices I agree.
This tablet (like the nexus 7 (old version), and other transformers) suffer from underperforming nand flash storage. Just try to Google it. My guess is that katkiss and other roms perform better than CM because they overclock and because they switch off the sync after writes, so the nand performance issues show a bit less frequently.
(No criticism: katkiss is very well maintained - he does a great job and its maybe the only way to keep the device usable).
Chris
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I was about to pull the trigger on one of these that includes the keyboard on Ebay for $100 until I read this. What tablet would you recommend that fits this criteria:
1. $150 or less
2. 9-10" screen
3. 16GB+ storage
mikecantreed said:
I was about to pull the trigger on one of these that includes the keyboard on Ebay for $100 until I read this. What tablet would you recommend that fits this criteria:
1. $150 or less
2. 9-10" screen
3. 16GB+ storage
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I stand by my previous posts and say that for $100.00 you can't go wrong with this tablet. And having the keyboard as well makes it an even better buy. I would pay twice that without hesitation. It will top anything new on the market at much higher prices. The caveat is you need to use a custom ROM to see the best performance. I highly recommend KatKiss 6.0 I have been using it for a couple of months now and have no regrets whatsoever. Prior to that I used KatKiss 5.1 and was quite pleased with it too.
The bottom line is unless somebody uses a tablet regularly there is no way they can give an accurate review on it. I've used this table for 2-1/2 years REGULARLY AND DAILY and other than the short time I was on stock I have never regretted buying it.
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I stand by my previous posts and say that for $100.00 you can't go wrong with this tablet. And having the keyboard as well makes it an even better buy. I would pay twice that without hesitation. It will top anything new on the market at much higher prices. The caveat is you need to use a custom ROM to see the best performance. I highly recommend KatKiss 6.0 I have been using it for a couple of months now and have no regrets whatsoever. Prior to that I used KatKiss 5.1 and was quite pleased with it too.
The bottom line is unless somebody uses a tablet regularly there is no way they can give an accurate review on it. I've used this table for 2-1/2 years REGULARLY AND DAILY and other than the short time I was on stock I have never regretted buying it.
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Good deal thanks. Do you think it's worth paying an extra $50 for the TF-700t?
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Good deal thanks. Do you think it's worth paying an extra $50 for the TF-700t?
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Absolutely not! I bought a TF700 for my wife about a year after buying the TF300T thinking I would be getting a faster and more capable tablet. After about a month of frustration she tossed it aside and went back to her Kindle Fire HD because it was a total piece of crap, crashing constantly and locking up at every turn. . I tried several different custom ROM's with no improvement. I finally tried KatKiss 5.1 v30 and it was usable but it sits on my nightstand gathering dust. I thought I may have gotten a lemon but after I read through pages of posts and it seemed to be issues that are very common on the TF700.
It's an amazing tablet, thanks a lot to Katkiss it is running as smooth as ever but personally I must say the tablet factor for me has worn out it's welcome it's great for consuming stuff but my next "tablet" is probably going to the SP 4 but not before MS has fixed their software bugs of course.
One thing that still stands out for me is the amazing batterly life and Asus is probably one of just a few companies having done the keyboard attachment thing right. I cringe everytime when I'm looking a t Google's pixel C attempt I mean wtf 3 "slides" to position this thing? lol and at that price I'd rather pay twice as much for me the SP 4.
The screen resolution is just decent but if you buy it make sure to root it, unlock the bootloader and install Katkiss it's the best available ROM (thanks so much) and set the cpu speed to around 1600, otherwise typing won't be a good experience. Oh and make sure to let it run out of battery after the first full charge.
yeah, asus has produced fairly good products overall in the past ~20 yrs. more often than not they do a good job at introducing proper 'consumer demo' additions to products that usually lead into the next gen. cycle, preferably.
pastorbob62 said:
I can google any device on the market and find negative reviews about it. But, in 3 years of using this tablet, I have been very pleased with it, at least since I moved away from stock, (which I did within a month of purchasing it). And since Katshmallow came out I have been even more impressed with the performance of this "underperforming" device.
I am also aware of the common complaints against it. Whatever the reasons for my personal experience with it, I have no major complaints against it. It runs all of the apps I use quite well with no lag or crashes. I watch Netflix and Hulu videos on it without any stuttering or buffering. It syncs with my Bluetooth devices and the audio works well. I don't do any gaming with the exception of HayDay and Pyramid Solitaire, so possibly that makes a difference.
Maybe I got lucky and have an exception to the rule. I'm sure there are other newer tablets on the market that outperform it. But as it stands now, based on my personal experience, if this tablet dies today, I would do everything I could to find another of the same model.
On another note, I appreciate the development done with CyangenMod for all Android devices. Without that development, a lot of the other custom ROM's would not exist. Thank you for your contributions to that development.
All of that said, I guess we just have to agree to disagree about the TF300T.
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I tend to agree, but as you said, without the stock ROM. Before, with the stock OS it was almost unusable. Now with
KatKiss MM 6.0 I'm happy with the table. It isn't as snappy as my wifes new Galaxy Tab 10.1, but it is good enough
till I can replace it with a better model.
First off let me say that I love this phone. The build quality while not the best is good enough and the materials used come together very nicely. The Moto X also has all the features I am looking for (quick charge, nice screen, stereo front facing speakers, expandable storage and unlocked and rootable!).
So why am I depressed about it?
The phone seems to not be as popular as it deserves and with that it doesn't get the massive amounts of support of other inferior devices. After owning this phone since October I have tried my hardest to grow to love the stock firmware as it is so close to google's. However (I'm not sure how many of you will agree with me here), I am very fond of CM and seeing that the Moto G 2015 has been officially supported for what feels like forever now I'm not sure the Moto X will ever be.
I know there are dedicated individuals working hard to further development projects for this device and I am very grateful for that. It just feels like the community for this phone is very small which has caught me off guard because the device seemingly has everything most people could want.
Anyways, I'm not entirely sure why I wrote this but I'd like to hear your guys' thoughts and opinions.
I agree with you that I was assuming there would be way more support for this phone and I also though it would be easier to mess with as far as rooting and such. I'm no developer or self proclaimed rooting expert but it seems like if you are on android 6.0 stock it's not that easy to get rooted or downgrade to 5.x and root. I thought being unlocked and so near stock that this would all be a breeze but ever since I unrooted and upgraded to stock 6.0 rooting again is a pretty big undertaking. I'm not complaining here I do really like the stock OS but I love messing with the OS too. Here's to hoping some time in the near future there is a solid root option for stock 6.0
When I first seen the title I was like 'really'?/But as iv read further , there's one spot on point I agree with you on...
I expected the this phone to be one of the more popular, development wise, rom wise.
So when I first came to XDA and looked in the Moto X Pure section, WOW, I was sadly SADLY surprised.
3 CURRENT ROMS. are you joking me?
I told my self once the kernel source(or whatever) was released, THAT'S when things would change, that is when the list would grow..... IT HAS NOT THO....
THIS has been a let down. When I buy a phone, I want to be sure bec to me, its a hassle to do Re-Sale on EBay or Swappa or CL, Its just a hassle, I don't want to do it, Unless I absolutely have to. SO I'm sticking with the phone I buy most likely. So I'm sticking with it.
I could have spent 100 more to get the 6p, but at that time, everyone was talking DOWN the 6p, plus its a tad too big for me, I didn't want it then. Given the unpopularity in development this phone surprisingly is, it would be nice to have the 6p, but to me, going through the resale hassle, I think I'll pass.
Lastly, to the OP of this Post. I agree on one point, its very very surprising the unpopularity of the phone STILL. It's almost unexplainable.
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Ive been a long time lg and htc user prior to this.... Yes theres few roms but heres my take.... while lg g2 g3 g4 have lots of roms activities and users... Let me tell you how it works... First most of the ppl on there only complain about bugs and how they bricked their phones or complain of the hideous lg stock rom lag and interface... Then they flash bug filled. Aosp roms and complain about bugs and camera etc..... Wit moto x ppl dont have to be active in the forum bc first.. Stock rom is aosp... ....... Everything just works and feels great... And you can falsh optimized stock rom and ull have stability of stock roms+fluidness of aosp roms...(no need for users to stick around to complain... They jt flash they're rom and are of to enjoy it) You jt cant lose with this phone!!!! I appreciate the heck out of my fone and of mostly intelligent satisfied users!!!! Im my opinion this phone is second to only the nexus 6p right now.... And well the reason i have this is bc i got it for a measly 83$ on a amazing deal on ebay... Anyways. Thats alll... My opinion is complete
Edit.... Oh and ive nvr owned a phone with a signal quality even close to this one... Its baffling how much better it is then it was on my m8 or g3 or g4...
I came from the LG G4, what they did there is they got a well known Cyanogen Dev to agree to support that device if they helped him get it.
They got Codeworkx, (a great developer btw) and he jump started development right away squashing bugs left and right.
Maybe they can do that here? get a well known Developer to agree and see if they can get donations going for him.
I know things like this have gone down south before with devs not commiting and dropping/selling the device right away.
But there are good devs are there that are commited but just dont have funds to get devices.
Historically, the moto x line has never had much development. My own personal opinion is because there isn't much need: updates come fast, stock moto features are excellent, and performance tends to be very good and there is very little bloat. Other than the nexus line, where the devs have source code to work with, devices that come with good software tend to get less developer interest.
Obviously there are exceptions to this, just my observations after owning many phones over the years.
I just got the X for my dad and i believe its perfect for him (not so sure about the large display though), but he won't be messing around with ROMs and stuff.
However, I simply can't decide between this and the 5x for myself (6P is out of my budget). I love everything the X Style offers but I dread that I will soon get bored of the stock experience and crave for the bells and whistles that custom ROMs offer. The downside to flashing a ROM on the X is you lose out on Moto Display, Voice, Actions, and Assist--is that not the case? If I'm not mistaken, isn't Moto's implementation of these features significantly better than those found in CM?
I will echo what's been said and maybe add some points of my own. I love this phone I do, and maybe the fact that it has no issues is the issue but I also love seeing what else there is out there as far as rom's etc. I have yet to even root/unlock this phone because I almost see no major reason. I mean major, I know there's some xposed modules and whatnot but I used to love/hate trying out new roms just to see what they're like even with the bugs. I've moved on from the whole hack your phone scene but only because it seems to be less and less fun. Maybe the fact that the moto x pure is great as is, is the issue. No reason to really change anything. It's a good problem to have I guess.
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I just got the X for my dad and i believe its perfect for him (not so sure about the large display though), but he won't be messing around with ROMs and stuff.
However, I simply can't decide between this and the 5x for myself (6P is out of my budget). I love everything the X Style offers but I dread that I will soon get bored of the stock experience and crave for the bells and whistles that custom ROMs offer. The downside to flashing a ROM on the X is you lose out on Moto Display, Voice, Actions, and Assist--is that not the case? If I'm not mistaken, isn't Moto's implementation of these features significantly better than those found in CM?
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Moto's implementation is MUCH better than you'll find on any rom and/or xposed module. You will not find touchless display and moto voice that work well anywhere else. Also, you can get bells and whistles by installing gravitybox on stock-based roms. I've ran cm12.1/13 on my oneplus one for nearly a year and since switching to the moto x with gravitybox, I don't miss a thing.
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Ive been a long time lg and htc user prior to this.... Yes theres few roms but heres my take.... while lg g2 g3 g4 have lots of roms activities and users... Let me tell you how it works... First most of the ppl on there only complain about bugs and how they bricked their phones or complain of the hideous lg stock rom lag and interface... Then they flash bug filled. Aosp roms and complain about bugs and camera etc..... Wit moto x ppl dont have to be active in the forum bc first.. Stock rom is aosp... ....... Everything just works and feels great... And you can falsh optimized stock rom and ull have stability of stock roms+fluidness of aosp roms...(no need for users to stick around to complain... They jt flash they're rom and are of to enjoy it) You jt cant lose with this phone!!!! I appreciate the heck out of my fone and of mostly intelligent satisfied users!!!! Im my opinion this phone is second to only the nexus 6p right now.... And well the reason i have this is bc i got it for a measly 83$ on a amazing deal on ebay... Anyways. Thats alll... My opinion is complete[emoji14]
Edit.... Oh and ive nvr owned a phone with a signal quality even close to this one... Its baffling how much better it is then it was on my m8 or g3 or g4...
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Good points. I do wish we had a bit more variety rom wise tho.
Yeah 6p was just out my price range at the time, and also it wasnt as popular of a Choice at its launch as its been more recently.
For me specifically, I consume a lot of media, so speakers are a bit more important to me than some others, and was close to the most important feature I was looking for. I came from the htc M7, so when I heard the MXPE, I was not disappointed. As someone else said, this phone probably has the best speakers on a phone, even the 6p...... based on reviews and YouTube videos only.
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Theres not much to fix on this device, if and when CM gets official, you will see more rom in the dev section.
I love this phone that it doesnt get in my way and works just how I want it, heck I dont even keep tapatalk on my phone anymore since I never need to come here look for fixes or improvements
it is just 6months of release.. i think rom numbers and kernel numbers will improve over time...also the processor is almost new...there is very less work on msm8992...
also no vendor gives updates so fast.
LGs,HTCs,Samsungs take forever to update
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I agree with you that I was assuming there would be way more support for this phone and I also though it would be easier to mess with as far as rooting and such. I'm no developer or self proclaimed rooting expert but it seems like if you are on android 6.0 stock it's not that easy to get rooted or downgrade to 5.x and root. I thought being unlocked and so near stock that this would all be a breeze but ever since I unrooted and upgraded to stock 6.0 rooting again is a pretty big undertaking. I'm not complaining here I do really like the stock OS but I love messing with the OS too. Here's to hoping some time in the near future there is a solid root option for stock 6.0
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Unlock the bootloader, flash twrp through platform tools(adb-fastboot), flash chainfire supersu systemless root, it takes 10 min.
Yes, there are less ROMs compared to many other phones, but you must consider that most other phones don't come with a nearly pure Android experience. Those custom ROMs all try to focus on AOSP/CM builds that provide a pure Android experience along with extra features. This phone just doesn't need that as much.
Personally, I use to love flashing different ROMs to find the one that provides the best performance and feature set combination. This phone already has the performance, and Xposed and Layers provide all the features and custom look as desired. We also have a few solid kernels, too.
If you need a lot of ROMs, pick a phone that has a manufacturer-built version of Android that developers want to replace or a Nexus phone
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The stock ROM, rooted with Xposed and GravityBox can cover most of what a custom ROM can give you. And without the bugs.
Faint333 said:
First off let me say that I love this phone. The build quality while not the best is good enough and the materials used come together very nicely. The Moto X also has all the features I am looking for (quick charge, nice screen, stereo front facing speakers, expandable storage and unlocked and rootable!).
So why am I depressed about it?
The phone seems to not be as popular as it deserves and with that it doesn't get the massive amounts of support of other inferior devices. After owning this phone since October I have tried my hardest to grow to love the stock firmware as it is so close to google's. However (I'm not sure how many of you will agree with me here), I am very fond of CM and seeing that the Moto G 2015 has been officially supported for what feels like forever now I'm not sure the Moto X will ever be.
I know there are dedicated individuals working hard to further development projects for this device and I am very grateful for that. It just feels like the community for this phone is very small which has caught me off guard because the device seemingly has everything most people could want.
Anyways, I'm not entirely sure why I wrote this but I'd like to hear your guys' thoughts and opinions.
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It's not depressing if you have Xposed framework and VZW Unlimited Data. I may keep this phone for 1-2 years instead of upgrading every 6 months.
I agree, just got this phone the other day and i thought there'd be a lot of rom support, easy rooting, more mods, etc. Kind of a shame for a very good phone.
About the camera
My main complaint about this phone after owning a LG G4 and Galaxy S6 is the lack of the camera 2 API. Why after virtually bringing this feature on board of the Google Nexus 6 and claming that this phone have a comparable camera to last year's flagships, they take away something out, that us owners are more than capable of taking advantage. The camera is good, but could be better, and if they don't feel like doing it we should've been able to do something about it. Dumb move Motorola.
One problem with this phone is that it has to have qcoms multi Sim implementation. So you will not see (m)any AOSP based ROM's.
This because it is a lot of work to make multi Sim work. And yes the implementation of Qualcomm multi Sim is different then the aosp implementation.
You will only see CM based custom ROM's or stock based modifications. CM based ROM's because CM has a lot more resources to integrate this.
(I tried to get omnirom working, but ran into the multi Sim problem).
the design was good but i got tired of the lag and overheating, even on the s808 chip. went to the iphone 6s for 2 months then im back on droid but with a nexus 6p. best device ive had, no lag or overheating, great support. maybe the OP should consider buying it.
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JOSE89178 said:
I agree, just got this phone the other day and i thought there'd be a lot of rom support, easy rooting, more mods, etc. Kind of a shame for a very good phone.
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alot of it has to do with levono buying moto and the uncertain future of the moto line. plus the fact moto seems to drop support easily.