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[Q] stock rom vs custom rom

good morning,
i'm quite new on this phone even if It works fine for me with a stock rom 4.0.4 I would you like to understand if there is a good advantage to pass on a custom rom.
Please share with me your experience and answer with my few questions:
what kind of custom rom and kermel you have on?
which is the difference there is in term of battery life; performance; stability.
Thanks for your help

Welcome to the Nexus ... you're going to love this phone. With that said, you need to jump in and do some reading. There is no shortage of opinion on which rom, kernel, or even GB vs ICS ... is best. It very much depends on your likes, dislikes, etc. I assume that you have a gsm device, so make sure to flash the appropriate roms, kernels, etc. Lastly, there is lots of help available, but it's always best if you dig in and bring yourself up to speed with what's already been posted in these great forums. Good luck!

wmdunn said:
Welcome to the Nexus ... you're going to love this phone. With that said, you need to jump in and do some reading. There is no shortage of opinion on which rom, kernel, or even GB vs ICS ... is best. It very much depends on your likes, dislikes, etc. I assume that you have a gsm device, so make sure to flash the appropriate roms, kernels, etc. Lastly, there is lots of help available, but it's always best if you dig in and bring yourself up to speed with what's already been posted in these great forums. Good luck!
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thanks mate,
after few weeks i tested it, i find this phone a very good one and I don't feel the need to jump in a custom rom. I rooted it, installed a busybox and the clockwork and I added some apps to eliminate some gaps like the missing notification when the screen is off (I installed the noled apk for it) or like a switch off or switch on of the screen using the power button (I used an apps called accendi scermo and I switch on and off the screen using the phone sensor). The only thing that miss on this phone is an fm radio offline. I'm still searching a solution.

Stock rom: more stable, less features
Custom rom: less stable, more features

Well if you want to be normal. Than good for you.
Now a custom rom and kernel can give you unlimited privilages to things you can never imagine possible. Undervolting your device to give you brain blowing battery life or over clocking to give you awesome graphics.
A custom rom like CM9 or AOKP (there are way more than two but im just listing the popular ones) is of course better than stock since... well if it wasnt why would they make it. A kernel links your hardware to your software, meaning you can do some tweaking in the middle. If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
Now thats just the basics. if you are interested and want more information. Just do a bit of research and reading in this forum and ask questions in those forums. Hope this helps.

ics 4.0.4 stock+ simple or thalamus kernel

Or Bugless Beast with one of those kernels
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TigaTiger said:
Well if you want to be normal. Than good for you.
Now a custom rom and kernel can give you unlimited privilages to things you can never imagine possible. Undervolting your device to give you brain blowing battery life or over clocking to give you awesome graphics.
A custom rom like CM9 or AOKP (there are way more than two but im just listing the popular ones) is of course better than stock since... well if it wasnt why would they make it. A kernel links your hardware to your software, meaning you can do some tweaking in the middle. If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
Now thats just the basics. if you are interested and want more information. Just do a bit of research and reading in this forum and ask questions in those forums. Hope this helps.
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Thanks x your answer. You gave a good view. As sono i find ti me i Will try a custom rom with a kermel
Inviato dal mio Nexus S con Tapatalk 2

TigaTiger said:
If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
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I want 15 days standby! lmfao maybe a day at most if I'm at home with my wifi on and airave all day...

Lol

Lol. Wtf is the point in having a smartphone if you aren't going to use it?
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chronophase1 said:
Lol. Wtf is the point in having a smartphone if you aren't going to use it?
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Haha that's the problem! I use it too much! Lmfao

Rblacula said:
Haha that's the problem! I use it too much! Lmfao
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Yeah.... well, I have to use 2 even 3 batteries for day as heavy usage...
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Kernel focused on battery duration, which one?

Hi there, despite this topic I'll like to know users experiences with kernel on the Nexus5 since I'm looking for one based on battery duration. See I tested n3oHammer, franco and ElementalX from this three the best was n3oHammer but in recent Cyanogenmod updates it stop working so I'll need to change since Cyanogenmod kernel drain battery to fast, any advice? Any configuration on any kernel to get this battery duration?
PS: Sorry for ask this since it's prohibited but I need some advice on this topic

Try them and find out. Then let us know

jd1639 said:
Try them and find out. Then let us know
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Well I left my experience and I'm asking for others experiences

reynierpm said:
Hi there, despite this topic I'll like to know users experiences with kernel on the Nexus5 since I'm looking for one based on battery duration. See I tested n3oHammer, franco and ElementalX from this three the best was n3oHammer but in recent Cyanogenmod updates it stop working so I'll need to change since Cyanogenmod kernel drain battery to fast, any advice? Any configuration on any kernel to get this battery duration?
PS: Sorry for ask this since it's prohibited but I need some advice on this topic
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I recommend a move away from CM.

jd1639 said:
Try them and find out. Then let us know
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That's exactly what i did , each phone is used in many different ways.

Inb4lock
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I personally run Franco, but no CM
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reynierpm said:
Hi there, despite this topic I'll like to know users experiences with kernel on the Nexus5 since I'm looking for one based on battery duration. See I tested n3oHammer, franco and ElementalX from this three the best was n3oHammer but in recent Cyanogenmod updates it stop working so I'll need to change since Cyanogenmod kernel drain battery to fast, any advice? Any configuration on any kernel to get this battery duration?
PS: Sorry for ask this since it's prohibited but I need some advice on this topic
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In my personal opinion I would run Chaos Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551441
Comes with NXT app to tweak it. You could easily change the clock, voltage, governor, and other things in combination with screen brightness, Gravity Box's smart radio and a few other things to achieve maximum battery life. I am not a fan of CM never was never will be.
I personally could care less about battery life as long as I get through the day doing what I need to do when I need to do it. I don't do all the little things to prolong battery life. If I made it through the day and had 50% left well I would have to charge it because the next day it would die and who knows if I would use it more or less.

reynierpm said:
Hi there, despite this topic I'll like to know users experiences with kernel on the Nexus5 since I'm looking for one based on battery duration. See I tested n3oHammer, franco and ElementalX from this three the best was n3oHammer but in recent Cyanogenmod updates it stop working so I'll need to change since Cyanogenmod kernel drain battery to fast, any advice? Any configuration on any kernel to get this battery duration?
PS: Sorry for ask this since it's prohibited but I need some advice on this topic
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So you admit that you know these threads aren't allowed yet you post it anyways? That's going to go over well.

OP, as you know these threads are prohibited and will be closed. Best advice I can give you is try a few out and see which best suits your needs. Battery life depends greatly on which apps you run and your overall usage, both of which vary per user.
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Which ROM?

Hi,
Am a noob, new to Androids and an old man learning at this stage.
I have a OPO 64 GB Chinese, running Color OS.
I am hiring the services of a young tech to it for me, flash, root, unlock bootloader.
My question is in our expert opinion which is the ideal, most stable ROM recommended by you experts.
CM 11S, Slim, Mahadi, PA etc etc, so once done am able to live with a peace of mind and receive updates when available.
Hoping to hear from you smart members,
Thanks.

All roms are pretty much stable. Now you have to decide what rom you want based on the features offered by that rom.
I use Mahdi and have no complaints about the rom. It's the most featured rom out there while maintaining performance and stability.
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That's right... We won't answer that question directly here because you have to figure out yourself which ROM suits you best. My advice: Read the ROM descriptions and changelogs carefully, get to know the features provided by each ROM and most important: try it out for yourself. If you have a candidate, just try it for a few days and judge after that if it is usable for you.
I would also recommend you to learn how to flash ROMs and change software on your phone yourself. It is not that difficult with all the guides here and definitely worth a shot. Good luck!
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I’ll throw in my personal favorite: SlimKat.
I already tried the stock rom and loved it, but I wanted more customization.
I first went to PA but that rom felt too heavy. Madhi, and did’t feel like that rom was ready for prime time like the stock rom. I also tried Calkulin’s rom and I really liked it because it was almost stock like with a few more features and the battery was amazing! I got more than 10+ hours on a normal’s day useage.
But finally, I went over to Slim roms because of stability, smoothness and speed. I’m still determining if rom has any effect on battery.
So far, Slim is my most favorite. I absolutely recommend it.

lemonspeakers said:
I’ll throw in my personal favorite: SlimKat.
I already tried the stock rom and loved it, but I wanted more customization.
I first went to PA but that rom felt too heavy. Madhi, and did’t feel like that rom was ready for prime time like the stock rom. I also tried Calkulin’s rom and I really liked it because it was almost stock like with a few more features and the battery was amazing! I got more than 10+ hours on a normal’s day useage.
But finally, I went over to Slim roms because of stability, smoothness and speed. I’m still determining if rom has any effect on battery.
So far, Slim is my most favorite. I absolutely recommend it.
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A kernel has more impact on the battery than ROM. Although a ROM may supply itself with a "custom kernel" as the stock kernel of that ROM. For ROMs just look for features, stability.... but a ROM won't have a significant impact on battery life, what matters the most when it comes to battery life is making sure your phone properly enters deep sleep without any wakelocks. The phone battery life is still good even if a user has wakelocks on anyways.
Mahdi is pretty prime time and it gets updated quite frequently and the developers are super friendly and responsive to any bugs that may occur. I don't have any problems with the rom.
At the end of the day, try them all out for a couple days and see what you like the most. They're all free after all

XDA is a development site not a support site. As the term "Best" or "Most Stable" is a very subjective term, such members are expected to do their own research, read through the development threads, and decide what is "Best/Most Stable" for them.
The only results that would be posted here are what each member has found to be "Best" or "Most Stable" for them by experimentation based on their phone/usage/setup/apps/signal strength. And at times, these thread spiral into arguments over which is perceived "Best/Most Stable".
Please take the time to read through the development threads, and interact with the members there, to learn all about the software you are about to drastically alter your very expensive device with.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your cooperation.

[Q] Custom ROM vs Stock ROM (thoughts/suggestions/etc)

One of the reasons I purchased the Nexus 5 is because it is Android at is purest. After I got the phone, I used it for a while without rooting it, until I needed to use an app that required root. So about a month after having the phone, I rooted it. Now I am finding some things that KitKat doesn't let you customize. They are all minor interface things but I'm sure everyone here can relate... I want more customization. So, here are my questions:
How long before you rooted and/or flashed a custom ROM?
Are you happy with the stability of your custom ROM?
Any difference in battery life?
Which custom ROM are you using and why?

1. Day one I rooted.
2. Most roms on a nexus are stable... Except maybe some nighties, which are works in progress.
3. Roms have very little impact on battery life.... So don't use that as a deciding point.
4. Mostly you'll just get a list of the most popular roms when you ask that. But I'll say Graviton. Cause it's a little different than some... And the Dev is very active in his rom thread. Always a good thing.
5. questions go in Q&A. For future reference. ?

Please post questions in the Q&A section
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I have rooted the device, the first day I got it, uninstalled bloatware and other crap, installed *my* favorite Apple and I am happy. I did Not finden *any* thing, which could not be customized. What specific point are you missing in customization? My device runs fine, I use Greenify app, so the battery runs about 48 to 60 hours depending on the programs I use. Video is more battery consuming that making a call of course.

@x000111
There's another alternative in case you have a dilemma whether to stay on or leave stock ROM. Check out my GravityBox project (xposed module).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049

C3C076 said:
@x000111
There's another alternative in case you have a dilemma whether to stay on or leave stock ROM. Check out my GravityBox project (xposed module).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554049
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Wow, I just started using Xposed on my tablet but didn't realize it was capable of all of this. Definitely going to try this out before flashing a new ROM.
P.S. Sorry, not sure what I was thinking... for some reason, I thought I was posting in Q&A.

I left it for 3 months. Then used xposed and gravity box to get the notification toggles the way they should be.
I shouldn't have to have it take me into settings to toggle data on and off.
Other than that stock is pretty well perfect for me.
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x000111 said:
Android at is purest.
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Stock Nexus is Android at its purest... with Google apps and services added.

After the OTA images of Lollipop came out, I knew since I was rooted, I would have to do a manual install. So I'm back to stock (non-rooted). Right now, I don't see a reason to root. So far Lollipop 5.0 is serving it's purpose. Yet another huge step in the right direction by Google.

Flashed 5.0 factory images the day they came out, was not satisfied with the OS as a whole, so now flashed a custom ROM Mahdi till 5.x.x comes out or any AOSP 5.0 rom comes out.

gamer.11 said:
Flashed 5.0 factory images the day they came out, was not satisfied with the OS as a whole, so now flashed a custom ROM Mahdi till 5.x.x comes out or any AOSP 5.0 rom comes out.
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AOSP 5.0 roms are already out.

I ordered mine Oct 31 last year. Unlocked the bootloader day one. Probably stayed stock for a bit, don't know how many custom ROMs were out at the start.
Stayed on Cataclysm for a long time, went to Purity. Flashed stock 5.0, was on that a few days and now a custom ROM again.

Primokorn said:
AOSP 5.0 roms are already out.
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I know about that, no offense to the current rom builders but I was more like waiting for slimpop or cm12 or paranoid android roms. But I have a question most of the roms come with gapps built in them which i find confusing as no rom built from source should do that, or are they just themed or mod-ed stock roms?(which is the primary reason i haven't yet tried them out)

x000111 said:
One of the reasons I purchased the Nexus 5 is because it is Android at is purest. After I got the phone, I used it for a while without rooting it, until I needed to use an app that required root. So about a month after having the phone, I rooted it. Now I am finding some things that KitKat doesn't let you customize. They are all minor interface things but I'm sure everyone here can relate... I want more customization. So, here are my questions:
How long before you rooted and/or flashed a custom ROM?
Are you happy with the stability of your custom ROM?
Any difference in battery life?
Which custom ROM are you using and why?
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1 - an hour
2 - I'm on lollipop rooted stock. The custom ROM team slim don't have a ROM for L yet
3 - no. This is entirely down to the user I'll expand below
4 - waiting for Slim. Suits my needs. Unique and useful features
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM.* The question itself is*ambiguous.* "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM,*ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people*are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few*pages (and have the most posts) in the*Android*Development or*Original*Android Development forums. You can also see what other people*are running by reading the*What*are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device -*they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery*if they have a feature that is badly coded.* You will likely be able*to read about this in the ROM threads.* ROMs do not impact battery*life.* The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings,*how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone*Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read*[Battery*Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
Also, please note that as above, "best" is still subjective.* What we*all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the*misconception that Kernels affect battery life.* Let's get this*cleared up.* Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and*efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY*tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery*life".* This is actually wrong. *Kernels respond to user settings.*Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance*is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning.* The reason*people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their*kernels up with their preferred governor settings.* This is what we*refer to as out-of-the-box settings.* The out-of-the-box settings for*kernel x may well produce better battery results than the*out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance.* The*fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to*perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning*how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based*on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits*of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps

rootSU said:
2 - I'm on lollipop rooted stock. The custom ROM team slim don't have a ROM for L yet
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I'm looking forward to Slim coming out for Lollipop too.
rootSU said:
"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM.* The question itself is*ambiguous.* "Best" is obviously a subjective term....
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people*are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few*pages (and have the most posts) in the*Android*Development or*Original*Android Development forums. You can also see what other people*are running by reading the*What*are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device -*they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery...
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Thanks for the info. That is not what I'm asking or referring to. My main purpose for posting this was to see how other Nexus5 users are using their phones... I kind of wish I had named the thread after the poll I put up: What best describes the usage of your Nexus 5?
rootSU said:
For tips about improving battery life, please read*[Battery*Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
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I haven't had any battery issues but I'm always interested in improving battery life.
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Hope this helps
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Those are some good resources. Thanks for posting.

Root and custom ROM/kernel or not!?

Hey i got the Pixel 3 and now i'm thinking about rooting my Pixel 3. If there are some ROMs or kernels that maybe are better for battery life than stock android 9?
Guys can you recommend some ROMs or kernels?
Thank you!

As will always be the case, no one can really answer as your usage situation will be different. Run stock at first, with root, and use better battery stats to see what your usage is. I am on DU rom and battery is ok, but I have one social media app that is always running. I can make it though the day though, so not bothered.