Moto G 2015 Cricket Wireless-Stagefright Vulnerability - Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
TLDR; Is there a way to fully protect against Stagefright without waiting for Cricket Wireless to push an OTA while keeping the useful Moto Gestures (camera and flashlight)?
About a week ago I switched to a Moto G 2015 (XT1540 if it matters). I opted for Cricket Wireless, as their plans are much more reasonable than the big four. Today, I discovered the phone isn't patched against Stagefright according to Zimperium's Stagefright Checker mod. I believe the issue is on Cricket's end, as Motorola has released the Stagefright patches to carriers. Unfortunately, if I search for new updates, it says I have the latest update.
I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to fix the issue myself, while keeping the Camera and Flashlight gestures. I tried calling Motorola and Cricket support, and neither rep even knew what Stagefright was. I know that I can flash a ROM like Cyanogen, but I would lose the gestures which are incredibly convenient, unless there is a workaround I don't know about. I started reading about Twisty Launcher...I would be sad to see NOVA go, but it might be worth it.
I haven't even rooted the phone yet as I'm still within the 14 days where I can return it to Motorola, and I've considered just sending it back and going with a Nexus/Project Fi combo. If I have to lose the gestures anyway...
I'm hoping someone here will have an idea, thanks for your help in advance.

Just use another app for SMS/MMS. Two that I've used, Chomp and Textra both have built-in protection in their settings. Both are much better than stock apps in my opinion.
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Tel864 said:
Just use another app for SMS/MMS. Two that I've used, Chomp and Textra both have built-in protection in their settings. Both are much better than stock apps in my opinion.
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I'm actually using Textra with the protections enabled, but I'm not sure how comprehensive that protection is.

Arnisador89 said:
I'm actually using Textra with the protections enabled, but I'm not sure how comprehensive that protection is.
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You can feel a little secure in the fact that according to what I've read lately, no one has actually seen stagefright used in the real world.

Based on what I've read, and the fact that the Moto G 2015 is a retail version (not specific to Cricket), it is on Motorola to push the patch. Regardless, they did push one back in early fall (which I received), but since then, two new Stagefright vulnerabilities were discovered - http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/stagefright-2-vulnerabilities-t3220779. These are probably the two that are not yet fixed. I imagine that since they are working on the Marshmallow update, that they will be pushed with that. But, that is just speculation on my part.

jimt1029 said:
Based on what I've read, and the fact that the Moto G 2015 is a retail version (not specific to Cricket), it is on Motorola to push the patch. Regardless, they did push one back in early fall (which I received), but since then, two new Stagefright vulnerabilities were discovered - http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/stagefright-2-vulnerabilities-t3220779. These are probably the two that are not yet fixed. I imagine that since they are working on the Marshmallow update, that they will be pushed with that. But, that is just speculation on my part.
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The Stagefright apps find no vulnerabilities on my phone running Marshmallow. The app checks for 9, but I don't know how many there are now.

Arnisador89 said:
Hi all,
TLDR; Is there a way to fully protect against Stagefright without waiting for Cricket Wireless to push an OTA while keeping the useful Moto Gestures (camera and flashlight)?
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I know that I can flash a ROM like Cyanogen, but I would lose the gestures which are incredibly convenient
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You do not lose gestures or any other stock Motorola features by flashing CM

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TW Security Flaw

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/2...at-allows-factory-resets-with-just-one-click/
Anyone care to elaborate? Wondering if u have to be running TW or just have it on our phone. I use Apex so Im hoping im safe.
The Verge has confirmed it kills an AT&T Galaxy SIII. http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/25/3403928/samsung-touchwiz-reset-vulnerability
F*ck manufacturer skins, whether it's Touchwiz or Sense.
i haven't looked into this but thought i read that it has to do with dialer codes, in which Verizon users will be safe since they are blocked by default.
NuclearEMP said:
i haven't looked into this but thought i read that it has to do with dialer codes, in which Verizon users will be safe since they are blocked by default.
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I just read this:
Our Verizon Galaxy S3 was not reset by the malicious code embedded in a web page, though we were able to trigger a reset using similar code tied to a hyperlink.
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- ooofest
Jaxidian on rootz has confirmed that it doesn't affect asop.
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/34484-GS3-Factory-Reset-iFrame-Exploit
I did it on stock routed galaxy s3. Will upload to YouTube later to show it
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This was patched with the OTA pushed out a week or two ago so if you are running stock you're fine.
I did not take the latest OTA that supposedly dumbs down searching on the device.
I plan on sticking with stock-rooted. Is there a way to flash the security fix some other way?
dunderball said:
I did not take the latest OTA that supposedly dumbs down searching on the device.
I plan on sticking with stock-rooted. Is there a way to flash the security fix some other way?
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I did not take the OTA either (did not want the search feature removed and Verizon snoopware installed). I am still on the original F2 (rooted, unlocked), I tested and my phone is vulnerable because it showed my IMEI number when tested. I then found this app (Telstop) which will help prevent a malicious attack via the Samsung vulnerability.
Info on Telstop

Why there so many updates for CyanogenMod rom and no or hardly any update 4 stock

hi guy wanna knw why there are so many updates on daily basis for cm 13 n hardly or no update for stock
rohanmane3 said:
hi guy wanna knw why there are so many updates on daily basis for cm 13 n hardly or no update for stock
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CM is built nightly by auto build scripts, whether there are changes or not... Most day to changes are in the CM core and have little real effect. I recommend only updating monthly unless you are having issues.
Moto doesn't push updates except when needed, the stock rom is stable and in general doesn't need frequent updates. Moto has also made no commitment to regular security updates.
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I'ts a shame isn't it, security patch level is 1 januari 2016
mumfordfan said:
I'ts a shame isn't it, security patch level is 1 januari 2016
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Well, Motorola isn't Google! They didn't guarantee monthly security patches at all. At least they are offering major android upgrades, many manufacturers ignore their phones completely [emoji4]
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I'ts a shame isn't it, security patch level is 1 januari 2016
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And yet, I have yet to hear of a single security issues with this device...
TBH, most of these security updates are not really about technical need at all, they are about propaganda... It makes Google, and Android in general, look better, to patch any "vulnerability" in Android. All of these huge security holes like Stagefrieght, Media Server, Quadrooter, etc. are not REALLY an issue in the real world. Have you ever heard of anyone actually having a problem with any of these? No, you haven't, because there isn't a single documented case of any of these "in the wild", it's all happened in a lab.
Remember that even though we are on January 2016 update, Moto is still a leader in this area... How many other sub-$200 handsets even get updates, much less better ones than we do? Not many...
acejavelin said:
And yet, I have yet to hear of a single security issues with this device...
TBH, most of these security updates are not really about technical need at all, they are about propaganda... It makes Google, and Android in general, look better, to patch any "vulnerability" in Android. All of these huge security holes like Stagefrieght, Media Server, Quadrooter, etc. are not REALLY an issue in the real world. Have you ever heard of anyone actually having a problem with any of these? No, you haven't, because there isn't a single documented case of any of these "in the wild", it's all happened in a lab.
Remember that even though we are on January 2016 update, Moto is still a leader in this area... How many other sub-$200 handsets even get updates, much less better ones than we do? Not many...
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If it can be done in a lab, it can be done in real life. It's important for Google to fix any security issues, and it's not just propaganda. You don't want your software that's going on billions of phones to have security issues.
But for the average person, you really don't need to worry about it, unless you're really high profile or very rich and are at risk of being targeted.
All true, Google does fix security issues the problem is most phone company's doesn't provide them to the costumers.
Fingers crossed for Nougat on the Moto G3
Someone will port it. No fear
3GotoM ym morf tneS
mumfordfan said:
All true, Google does fix security issues the problem is most phone company's doesn't provide them to the costumers.
Fingers crossed for Nougat on the Moto G3
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We will probably get it, but G 2015 will likely be in line behind the Moto Z, G4, X Style/Pure, and X Play... Haven't heard a peep from beta testers for any device, so likely at least 3 months out still. Will probably see CM14 and other custom ROMs well before official update.
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acejavelin said:
And yet, I have yet to hear of a single security issues with this device...
TBH, most of these security updates are not really about technical need at all, they are about propaganda... It makes Google, and Android in general, look better, to patch any "vulnerability" in Android. All of these huge security holes like Stagefrieght, Media Server, Quadrooter, etc. are not REALLY an issue in the real world. Have you ever heard of anyone actually having a problem with any of these? No, you haven't, because there isn't a single documented case of any of these "in the wild", it's all happened in a lab.
Remember that even though we are on January 2016 update, Moto is still a leader in this area... How many other sub-$200 handsets even get updates, much less better ones than we do? Not many...
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I am curious why some versions of MotoG3 got the upgrade to 6.01 and others did not?
Is it a good assumption those who did not get 6.01 will not get any further updates unless it is 7.0?
MrTooPhone said:
I am curious why some versions of MotoG3 got the upgrade to 6.01 and others did not?
Is it a good assumption those who did not get 6.01 will not get any further updates unless it is 7.0?
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Safe assumption... But I've seen stranger things. 6.0.1 started rolling out months ago, then just stopped with no official word as to why. Speculation is the scroll issue, where scrolls are seen as taps, got significantly worse and the roll out was stopped. Really though 6.0.0 to 6.0.1 was a very minor change.
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Safe assumption... But I've seen stranger things. 6.0.1 started rolling out months ago, then just stopped with no official word as to why. Speculation is the scroll issue, where scrolls are seen as taps, got significantly worse and the roll out was stopped. Really though 6.0.0 to 6.0.1 was a very minor change.
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That scroll issue was terrible, which is the main thing that got me to void my warranty and flash cm13.
Moto isn't the best anymore...
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Remember that even though we are on January 2016 update, Moto is still a leader in this area... How many other sub-$200 handsets even get updates, much less better ones than we do? Not many...
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Samsung is on the July 2016 update with the sub-$200 X Cover 3.
I am not a Samsung fanboy at all.
I really don't like all the fluff they add to Android and why they see the need to overhaul the settings.
But having Samsung best Motorola at keeping their sub-$200 handsets up-to-date makes me doubt that my next phone will be a Moto.
Which is a shame, I think...
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Samsung is on the July 2016 update with the sub-$200 X Cover 3.
I am not a Samsung fanboy at all.
I really don't like all the fluff they add to Android and why they see the need to overhaul the settings.
But having Samsung best Motorola at keeping their sub-$200 handsets up-to-date makes me doubt that my next phone will be a Moto.
Which is a shame, I think...
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Ehh... I can see that. I would still never own another Sammy, but I would take another Moto. Besides, I usually only run mine stock for about 3 months then ROM them once a few become stable.
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Ehh... I can see that. I would still never own another Sammy, but I would take another Moto.
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Me too. I can even tolerate an iPhone to a Samsung. Its good for sammy if they give updates, I agree on that.
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Android 7.0 Nougat being pushed to AOSP / Nexus

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2016/08/taking-final-wrapper-off-of-nougat.html
Only a matter of time now!
Yeah, my hope was that since moto was dragging feet on the 6.0.1 and the monthly security updates that we would see Nougat earlier than most, but I then wondered why did they release a May security update at all. So that thought sent my hypothesis that they were working on a Nougat release right out the window.
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moto pure ?
Well, they can begin working on it now. Needed AOSP source.
ahent said:
Yeah, my hope was that since moto was dragging feet on the 6.0.1 and the monthly security updates that we would see Nougat earlier than most, but I then wondered why did they release a May security update at all. So that thought sent my hypothesis that they were working on a Nougat release right out the window.
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They can't with on nougat until Google releases the source code. Motorola/Lenovo has also confirmed security updates will be quarterly vice monthly. They probably have a limited number of software engineers and developers and 6.0.1 honestly didn't really show that it could bring much in additional features to this phone. With nougat, there are reasons to move forward with the release.
Maybe this will fix the audio stutter with LTE calls on T-Mobile.
I know this might seem stupid but cant we port the nexus 5x factory android 7 rom?
I wouldn't bank on getting Nougat. Let's not forget how quickly Lenovorola dropped the 2014 Moto X in terms of Marshmallow. I know the unlocked variants eventually got it, but it took awhile.
I've this bad feeling in my gut our phone's support is going to be cut off. It's just like during the days of waiting for the Atrix to get 4.0 only for it to get canned.
Hope for the best, but expect the worst.
http://dailysunknoxville.com/moto-x-pure-edition-wont-get-android-7-0-nougat/920010638
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http://dailysunknoxville.com/moto-x-pure-edition-wont-get-android-7-0-nougat/920010638
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Just a fluff piece and purely conjecture... No reference to anything concrete like 95% of all articles out there. Fact is, only 16 handsets are absolutely confirmed to get Nougat, everything else is unofficial. And the only Moto on the list is the Nexus 6.
http://android.stackexchange.com/q/139232/146132
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I'd like to point out that the Moto X Pure is on the official Nougat website https://www.android.com/phones/
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http://dailysunknoxville.com/moto-x-pure-edition-wont-get-android-7-0-nougat/920010638
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In the comments section of that article user Tim stated "And your source is…? Also why is the Moto X Pure listed on the bottom of Google’s nougat website. The Moto X style (which is what the pure is called outside the US) is confirmed to have 7.0."
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I'd like to point out that the Moto X Pure is on the official Nougat website https://www.android.com/phones/
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You must have a different version of the website to me as I can't see it. I see 5 phones listed, none of them are Motorola.
lmulli said:
You must have a different version of the website to me as I can't see it. I see 5 phones listed, none of them are Motorola.
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That's weird. I tried both desktop and mobile and it's there for me both times. Perhaps its a region thing? I'm in Tennessee, US
elite001mm said:
I'd like to point out that the Moto X Pure is on the official Nougat website https://www.android.com/phones/
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General Android site. Not specifically Nougat.
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This thing isn't even a year old. We HAVE to get it. I would hate to have to rely on CM14 to stay current.
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I'd like to point out that the Moto X Pure is on the official Nougat website https://www.android.com/phones/
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General Android site. Not specifically Nougat.
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This is what I see. Nougat is mentioned, it could mean absolutely nothing, but either way it is an interesting find in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvv9nwUTv20
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This thing isn't even a year old. We HAVE to get it. I would hate to have to rely on CM14 to stay current.
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I wouldn't say we have to get it, but not offering major update support for a flagship type device up to 18 months after release would be a bad move by Lenovo. It would definitely push me away. I can deal with fewer less frequent security updates as well as bypassing minor ones (6.0.1), but a major one that this device can easily handle is expected.
Getting flashbacks to the Atrix 4G's journey to 4.0. What a time to be alive.
This being a new Motorola in ideology, so-to-speak, I'm optimistic, but it doesn't bode super well that they've already directed resources away from security updates. But who knows, maybe they did that to work on bringing 7 up.
Too bad they don't just tell us what's happening.
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Too bad they don't just tell us what's happening.
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That is something I have always wished for in an OEM. I guess they keep silent not to get hopes up, only to crush them later if something doesn't work out, but some sort of information would be nice. At least tell us it's being worked on, or what is being worked on.

root access to S8 or S8+

does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
Yeah I also want to root it. Plz anyone tell the method.
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Won't be a method until it's released, then I'm certain the devs here will start cracking on it. Give time, the guys here are pretty good at what they do but there's still no guarantee root will be achieved (US models that is).
waninae39 said:
does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
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Root will happen
(If not I'll be suprised)
Look at s7 edge (exynos) if you want to have the approximate method.
Once twrp is released, I bet around the beginning of Mai, you will be able to install it using Odin (breaks knox, s pay, etc)
From there you'll be able to flash whatever you want (magisk, SuperSU, etc)
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Although I just stumbled over this:
Quote:
Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/...-8895-soc-10nm
yeah, saw on their website that encryption layers are going to be a lot stronger. I still think it'll be cracked. It's a large enough phone. just might take longer than normal.
Even root on Verizon's locked bootloader?
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Yea root not enough for me, also need unlocked bootloader
geez the phones not even out yet. Gotta give the devs time to get there hands on the phone, then time to actually find a way to root it.
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
I bought this phone knowing it's going to be at least a year before at minimum root being achieved
if at all ,so I'm not getting my hopes up at all
This phone might be the straw the breaks the developers backs
I only needed a rooted phone for ARU unchained anyway ,but since the area51 got it to work unrooted
I can afford to wait
The Phone Company said:
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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I hear you, preference I guess, I just like being up to date. I find that sometimes you are unable to use certain features without the updates.
I have the note 4 myself, and the only update that was a problem with that phone was MM, you could not downgrade from it. I have the AT&T variant so, no root access, and the current temp root that they have listed on the forums is not viable because your only temp rooted on experimental testing firmware.
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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Thanks! Now I know.
Zeal415 said:
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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Haha, Buzby (as I call it) is the one INTRUSION I do NOT want!! Never asked for it, just forced upon us. This would be great, but I suspect the Phone already has Bixby embedded into it, what with all the hype (publicity for it) about it not functioning at launch I believe is a marketing ploy to bring attention to it. The part that is not being made available at launch is their end, nothing to do with needing an update for it to work (for those who blindly want it).
See, you watch, they will make such a big deal, like a major announcement when it is made to function and they "switch on their Bixby servers" it'll be posted all over the web like when the Note 7 fiasco (supposedly) happened.
Stop for second. And think. THINK. For yourself. That right there is invaluable advice. Bixby is not your friend.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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I use it also from my S7 Edge. Works just fine. I have the BT version of the Gear S3 tho. Pay dont work with international(the one on amazon) version of the S3.

Updates global stable version .

it is from March that I no longer receive updates for the global version, I am at 10.3.1.0. have they already left the device? should I install another rom? are there any hopes for widevine certification l1?
Tnks.
Matteomario said:
it is from March that I no longer receive updates for the global version, I am at 10.3.1.0. have they already left the device? should I install another rom? are there any hopes for widevine certification l1?
Tnks.
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I was wondering the same thing.
tiberiumsun007 said:
I was wondering the same thing.
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Me too
This will be the first and last Xiaomi I own; of that I am certain.
5g variant got update yesterday so maybe our Perseus will be updated in a few days too... At least I hope.
croques said:
This will be the first and last Xiaomi I own; of that I am certain.
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I am not disappointed in performance, and camera is also good & also installed gcam. They also promised android Q. So, it is not that bad . Although, I was thinking of Oneplus next time because they are known for their software support.
croques said:
This will be the first and last Xiaomi I own; of that I am certain.
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Why's that? Just because of infrequent updates?
Its OK ... but
tiberiumsun007 said:
I am not disappointed in performance, and camera is also good & also installed gcam. They also promised android Q. So, it is not that bad . Although, I was thinking of Oneplus next time because they are known for their software support.
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Why's that? Just because of infrequent updates?
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No, performance is fine. The camera is brilliant with the modded camera app. I find all the Xiaomi stuff littering the phone a nuisance although I have removed as much as I can without rooting. (I used to root every phone I owned but need flawless Google Pay - always - and don't want to play whack-a-mole with Google).
I resisted setting up a Xiaomi account - why would I have an account with a phone manufacturer? I'm not really a fan of Mui but with a Google Pixel Launcher it's good enough but I am finding the lack of proper notifications on email less than stellar. I like the Xi charging; OnePlus have never done this. Google's Nexus 4 - I think - did and I was hooked from then on.
There are two issues with Xiaomi really. The over riding issue is security. In my mind timely security updates are essential for any phone manufacturer wanting to be taken seriously. And the second is all the data collection that Xiaomi try to do on me; they seem me as a legitimate subject to data mine and advertise to; I'm not.
So I was hoping the Pixel 4 might finally get Google back on to the straight and narrow that the Nexus phones found. Alas no; it seems the Pixel 4 are stylisticly dead in the water with chin and forehead size bezels as gross as they are. So it looks as if I'll be returning to the OnePlus fold if they can master a through-the-screen camera and finger print scanner on the back where it should be.
I had been running a OnePlus since the the days of the One and went to 3, 5 and 6. I like OnePlus. Reasonable performance; regular updates and close to pure Android.
But liking a phone (why do we still call it a phone - its so much more?) liking a phone is very personal and your mileage will vary from mine.
Any new information about the new update?
New update pushed out. Dark mode now available in stable.
Full rom 10.3.2.0
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V10.3.2.0.PEEMIXM/miui_MIMIX3Global_V10.3.2.0.PEEMIXM_cf84891114_9.0.zip
Dark more available but themes don't work correctly when turned on.
Is there a full fastboot image available for the latest version?

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