I know with Titanium Backup you can set certain applications to a specific data profile. Is there any possible application to do this without root on the Note 5? Like say I want to use two separate accounts in an application, I can easily do this with Titanium Backup, but unfortunately root is required. I'm assuming this absolutely can not be done without root?
Titanium backup won't let you do anything without root.
Yes I know. I'm trying to see if there is a way to perform this function without root. Possibly with another application. Or is there no possible way?
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I've just got a Nexus S after having a Desire for 6 months but how would I transfer over my app settings? I know that once I log in with my Gmail account, this'll transfer over a lot but there are other things like system preferences, app preferences, game saves etc that probably won't.
I haven't rooted my phone - I've customised it extensively (as much as possible without rooting) and don't want to root and lose that now as that defeats the purpose of this migration. So I can't use Titanium Backup or most of the other backup options.
Could I just copy everything from my SD card, transfer that to a computer, and then transfer that to the internal memory of the Nexus?
Any help would be much appreciated.
you can only transfer user apps + settings
no system settings
Ah ok so leaving system preferences alone, would I transfer the apps and settings by moving the entire contents as-is from my Desire SD card to the root folder of the Nexus? Are the only things stored on internal memory system settings/preferences?
sort of...
do a full backup using titanium backup
then copy over the titanium backup folder from your Desire to SNS
then when you run TI on SNS, make sure to select only restore "User Apps + User Settings"
Ah, I haven't rooted my Froyo Desire - is there any way to transfer without rooting?
The Desire's going to someone who isn't going to want root privileges as they'll want OTA updates without flashing custom ROMs.
that wont work then
all the apps available on market that lets you do full backup requires root
the ones that does not requires roots, does not save your settings, it only saves the APK
That's quite a large oversight by those developers that don't back up to the cloud in that case. I understand the limitations posed by not having root privileges, but for many end-users that is going to put an unnecessary sting in migrating between Android phones.
Thanks for the info AllGamer.
developers can't do much about it.
it's the OS security limitation, if you have no root, you can't get access to the settings data which are protected by default if you are not rooted
sandeepg said:
That's quite a large oversight by those developers that don't back up to the cloud in that case. I understand the limitations posed by not having root privileges, but for many end-users that is going to put an unnecessary sting in migrating between Android phones.
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Cloud backups are not the only way. An application could also export settings to sdcard and be able restore them.
I think that Google should also draw some guidelines and even integrate them in the framework to ease the life of the developers and users.
Why not put something like:
/sdcard/backup/<packagename>.settings
When this file was present and no settings in the phone (new install/clean data) a dialog could popup asking if the user would want to import the settings.
Google should also allow to backup this files (basically the contents of each app data) from the settings menu. It could be on demand and/or scheduled.
Security risks aside, migrations would be easier.
by all means you can report this issue to Google and make it a BUG or FEATURE REQUEST. then it'll be a matter of time before enough people STARTs it and flags it as a high priority item for Google to have it integrated
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Cloud backups are not the only way. An application could also export settings to sdcard and be able restore them.
I think that Google should also draw some guidelines and even integrate them in the framework to ease the life of the developers and users.
Why not put something like:
/sdcard/backup/<packagename>.settings
When this file was present and no settings in the phone (new install/clean data) a dialog could popup asking if the user would want to import the settings.
Google should also allow to backup this files (basically the contents of each app data) from the settings menu. It could be on demand and/or scheduled.
Security risks aside, migrations would be easier.
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just rooted note pro 12.2. is there a list of apps safe to freeze/uninstall after rooting this tablet?
No running list no.
My advice is freeze and test as opposed to uninstalling; and don't go hog wild trying to disable things that are obviously system applications or else you risk running into trouble that you may not be able to fix other than doing factory resets and starting all over again. IMO I will not be trying to do system level changes until we have a custom recovery from which I can make nandroid backups that I can fall back onto.
Thus far other than the Knox apps I've only frozen the extra applications that i dont use like the Cisco app or the remote PC app etc.
[DISCUSSION] Root safety, phone migration solutions & alternatives to Titanium Backup
So, I've finally received a shiny and new S8 (Exynos).
And quickly enough, I searched XDA & Google to see if there's a stable root solution.
The main reasons I'd like root (& TWRP recovery) for are:
Topmost priority: to properly migrate my apps & data from my current phone (S6) using Titanium backup, so I can start using the new one as my main device.
Giving me the option to choose a custom ROM, when/if I'll find the right one for me.
You can never know when you'll need an app that requires root access.
Having the option to always have a full image backup of the entire device (TWRP).
Debloating the device by freezing/removing unwanted apps (freezing them with Titanium Backup)
I remember that I had to root my device in order to record phone calls (which is very important for me) - I'm not even sure what its like with the S8, but this could also be a reason to root.
After reading, and watching several videos, I understand that there are quite a few things to be worried about:
The chance of bricking your device, as the current rooting solution is immature (Is it? this one scares me the most)
Losing secure folders/Samsung Pay/Samsung Health, etc. (I'd hate to lose Secure Folders - but I'm sure that I can find alternative solutions, I'd prefer not to lose Samsung Pay & Samsung health, but I can live without them).
Losing warranty - not even sure if that's true, read here: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...iphone-rooting-android-does-not-void-warranty (Although I can live without the warranty, always rooted my phones while knowing I'll lose warranty).
I also read this discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/comments/6bgu7n/psa_do_not_attempt_to_root_your_s8s8/
Since I really want to migrate to the new phone, I've looked for options to safely copy the data without having root:
CloneIT: Didnt migrate the apps' data.
Helium: Apps were backuped, but couldnt restore them. many of my apps are not supported by Helium.
Smart Switch: Not even sure if it can migrate apps' data or not, but unfortunately - it didnt even run properly on my S6, once installed - there's a splash screen coming up, that vanishes after couple of seconds. I've read posts of other users complaining about this very same behavior. couldn't find a solution to make it run. it works find on the S8.
I googled, and found that there are a bunch of companies that sell complete migration tools (that require PC/Mac), did anyone check any of these, and can share a honest review?
None of them is free for use/download.
Here are some that I've found (there are more out there):
https://www.phonetransfer.org/
https://www.recovery-android.com/android-data-backup-restore.html
https://www.coolmuster.com/mobile-transfer.html
https://www.gihosoft.com/mobile-phone-transfer.html
https://www.android-data-recovery.org/phone-transfer
https://mobiletrans.wondershare.com/
I've always rooted my phones, so being root-less is a bit new to me. should I just take the chance and root it?
Both Android and TouchWiz are quite mature now, allowing us to enjoy a smooth and slick operation - when combined with the powerful hardware the S8 is equipped with, right out of the box.
What are your reasons for rooting?
How did all of your migrate your phones? started everything from scratch?
If not - how did you migrate from your previous phone?
Is the current rooting solution safe enough? And if its not - and we'll wait until a 'safe' rooting solution is out - how can we keep our apps & data continuously (in my case: S6--> Non rooted S8 --> Rooted S8)?
Does any of the paid solutions I listed above really work?
Would love to hear your thoughts and advises.
I rooted my phone because I would like to customize my own phone as it is mine. DriveDroid, FolderMount, Titanium Backup, smartdisk, and so on. It doesn't matter how good a phone is without root, for me, it is garbage if I cannot customize it. Get a unrootable phone just as powerful as the desktop PC, and I'll find it garbage regardless of smoothness.
Well put me down for wondering if any of these without root will restore app data....
Hello friends,
I have a Galaxy Note 5 from Verizon; Over the years, I've used this phone extensively for sending SMS messages ("texting") and now would like to gain access to the data files/database backing Verizon's Message+ app. As far as I can tell, none of the App binaries and their associated data are accessible via the standard [non-rooted] Phone-->USB-->PC interface?
A couple questions:
1) Can you confirm that Rooting a Galaxy Note 5 WILL NOT wipe the data that is currently on the device?
(I assume the Root process will not require the device to revert to a factory state, wiping the data files I seek to preserve?)
2) Can you confirm that rooting the device is necessary to access the App binaries & their associated data files?
3) Years ago I read that rooting the Galaxy Note 5 would permanently break the "KNOX" security mechanism as some type of tamper fuse would be blown. I assume this is still the case?
(This phone is no longer my primary phone so while I seek not to damage the phone any more than I have to, I'm now willing to bulldoze the KNOX functionality, if it means I can access the data I want)
(I'm aware the messaging data is likely stored in a proprietary data format, though I have heard rumors Sqlite is used. Regardless, the data format is not a concern provided I can access it)
Thank you in advance for your help!
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SMS Backup & Restore – Apps on Google Play
A simple app that backs up and restores SMS & MMS messages and call logs.
play.google.com
Whoa, there is life out there! Thanks for the response
I'll definitely check out the app, but would definitely be interested in gaining access to a low-level filesystem copy of the messaging data directly from my device.
Can you confirm whether rooting an Android device generally leaves pre-exisisting data (before the root) in place?
it depends what root method you use
if you use magisk or supersu via twrp, you need to unlock bootloader which when you unlock bootlaoder it wipes all data (bootloader is safekeeper to phone partitions, so they can be edited)
but if you use some one clikck root (like kingroot) you wont lose data.
and with root, even if you do access database in /data folder, it will be in sqlite database, and a lot, and completely unsorted.
you can copy it to pc, and create app which can read and sort from database, but otherwise is not usable other than archive, you cant use it in any other app again
but with app without root, you gain same thing, even if you cant use in any app again, you can keep it as archive, as it exctracts (without root)
but with app i think you would be able to recover and use again, depends on device, (like, you wont be able to use those messages from samsung to lg messagess app)
Awesome, thank you for the info. At some point, I would like to explore all of the various ways to root a device, but in this particular case where I want to backup all SMS conversation data (text, pictures, etc.) from the existing (non-rooted) device, it sounds like the one click approach is definitely what I need (vs. unlocking the bootloader)
Your comments about using an App (without root) are also very intriguing. Is there an Android app that can give me access to all the data (or at least all the data that the SMS app would have access to) on the phone without rooting it? (Can you recommend one?) The SMS Backup & Restore App you mentioned earlier seems interesting, but I'd like to get something that will generally allow me to get data from the internal filesystem.
Ideally, I just need some way (ssh/ftp/other) to transfer data from the phone to my PC. I'm fully expecting that I'll have to do some reverse engineering on the database/data files that I copy from the device and alsi do some custom coding to extract the messages (including embedded pictures/ movies) that I wish to preserve.
Thank you again for any other advice or suggestions you can offer!
I have an unrooted bootloader-locked pixel 4 xl, there is this one app in my work folder (made using shelter) that allows backups but I can't seem to find a way to get it (can't seem to find a way to run adb backup on the work profile)
I was thinking maybe some kind of temporary root I know suspicious one-tap root apps do? if possible without using them?
Thank you for any ideas
update: talked to shelter dev, backing up was gonna be a feature but was decided against due to most apps having backups disabled anyway and for any unrelated issues to the app being made about it.
I can't make the app debuggable since its signed and uninstalling it for the patched app will delete any app data so I think my only mercy is some kind of root that won't delete my data