just rooted note pro 12.2. is there a list of apps safe to freeze/uninstall after rooting this tablet?
No running list no.
My advice is freeze and test as opposed to uninstalling; and don't go hog wild trying to disable things that are obviously system applications or else you risk running into trouble that you may not be able to fix other than doing factory resets and starting all over again. IMO I will not be trying to do system level changes until we have a custom recovery from which I can make nandroid backups that I can fall back onto.
Thus far other than the Knox apps I've only frozen the extra applications that i dont use like the Cisco app or the remote PC app etc.
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I have about 160+ apps installed in my xoom, and it almost needs 1min50 secs to boot up. is this normal? what can i do to boost the boot up time? i m in stock 3.2
Uninstall some applications.
most of them are games.. i neednt to delete them right?
Use something like Titanium Backup to backup all your apps on Xoom (or any other rrooted android device) then uninstall the apps you don't use much/anymore/etc... It'll backup the app itself and the data that goes along with it (although it prob won't backup things like your game saves, just leave them where they're at on the sdcard whether it's internal or external). If you decide later you need the app again, just fire up TB and restore it, quick and simple. Sometimes after a restore of certain apps, you may need to reboot the Xoom to get all the functionallity back but aside from that, you get to keep your apps as backup and restore them anytime while reducing your overhead of having a pile of active apps that you don't always use...
This is what I do anyway on both my Xoom and my Epic. I typically don't uninstall apss through TB although you can, I just use it to backup and restore. I do the uninstalling through the normal system settings. That's just a preference tho...
Hope this helps!
EDIT - When I suggested this to you, I was assuming that your stock 3.2 setup was rooted. If not, then TB won't do you any good and the only other advice it what solarnz offered, delete some apps.
250+ Apps here, over 5 Minutes Boot Time. Running Tiamat Hammerhead and already Reinstalled everything once. Boot Time caused by "Unpacking Native Libraries" of every single application. I hate that -.-
Learnt something new i have 101 and thought itwas getting slower lol
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200+ apps on my Xoom and the boot time is still solid as can be! For the rooters: Try using an app called Autostarts to disable all of those unwanted apps that make their way into the startup list. For the non rooters: Autorun Manager.
A lot of times, apps will attach themselves to the startup list even though they do not need it, such as a game. Why would you want a game booting up with your Xoom? I wouldn't, that's for sure. It's pointless, takes up memory, and it makes the boot time worse.
For the most part: Wipe out every single one of the startup apps that are not a part of the system, or as many as you need to. If you disable the user startup apps, you will have a more solid boot time no doubt. Almost none of the apps you install will ever need to boot up with your Xoom, unless you want it to. For me, I keep only a select few apps at startup such as: Equalizer, AdFree, and SetCPU. And chances are, if you have a ton of apps... your startup list will be massive, to say the least when you load up the app for the first time.
Rooters: Autostarts
Non Rooters: (Also has a root option) Autorun Manager
Customizing my Android phone, I've learned some things along the way that I thought other newbies like myself would be interested to know. This information can be found all over the web, but I thought speaking about these key points would be helpful...
1. If you're interested in rooting your phone, I've found the Towelroot method to be easiest. You can download the apk file for free and it makes the rooting process easy.
2. I have a method of disabling apps to improve performance that has never resulted in me crashing my phone. If you are not rooted, this probably won't be helpful. First off, get Greenify Pro and the Xposed framework, along with the ROM Toolbox. For apps that you know can be frozen safely, use ROM toolbox to freeze them, along with killing startup receivers of apps that you can safely disable from stsrtup, but can't freeze because you want to use them. Then use Greenify to hibernate apps you choose not to disable, but don't want running. I've found this method most efficient.
3. Many root their phones to remove apps that are pre-installed from your service provider, like my AT&T apps for example. I've come to realize that removing apps will not give you back usable storage space, so unless you are sure it's garbage, freezing apps is safest. Also, if you remove an app, it would be wise to backup the apk file first, just in case you need it later.
4. Since I'm a newbie, I have stayed away from custom ROMS and the sort. I've come to realize that this process is for skilled users only and many bad things can occur if this process goes awry. Always make full backups before attempting this at minimum.
5. Certain launchers, such as TouchWiz cannot be removed from Android easily, so I'd suggest you add your launcher of choice and leave the factory installed Launcher alone....
I hope this was helpful to all you newbies, good luck!!!!
Interested in remaining stock for the time being. What can I delete from my phone? What app can I use to force delete these files? Titanium Backup seems to not be able to do this.
Titanium will absolutely do that, however I would recommend just freezin apps you don't want vs deleting them. In the event that you do something that acts screwy you can always unfreeze the app, if it's deleted you're going to have to flash back to stock. Also, deleting apps from /system isn't going to make that space usable to regular user apps.
[DISCUSSION] Root safety, phone migration solutions & alternatives to Titanium Backup
So, I've finally received a shiny and new S8 (Exynos).
And quickly enough, I searched XDA & Google to see if there's a stable root solution.
The main reasons I'd like root (& TWRP recovery) for are:
Topmost priority: to properly migrate my apps & data from my current phone (S6) using Titanium backup, so I can start using the new one as my main device.
Giving me the option to choose a custom ROM, when/if I'll find the right one for me.
You can never know when you'll need an app that requires root access.
Having the option to always have a full image backup of the entire device (TWRP).
Debloating the device by freezing/removing unwanted apps (freezing them with Titanium Backup)
I remember that I had to root my device in order to record phone calls (which is very important for me) - I'm not even sure what its like with the S8, but this could also be a reason to root.
After reading, and watching several videos, I understand that there are quite a few things to be worried about:
The chance of bricking your device, as the current rooting solution is immature (Is it? this one scares me the most)
Losing secure folders/Samsung Pay/Samsung Health, etc. (I'd hate to lose Secure Folders - but I'm sure that I can find alternative solutions, I'd prefer not to lose Samsung Pay & Samsung health, but I can live without them).
Losing warranty - not even sure if that's true, read here: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...iphone-rooting-android-does-not-void-warranty (Although I can live without the warranty, always rooted my phones while knowing I'll lose warranty).
I also read this discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS8/comments/6bgu7n/psa_do_not_attempt_to_root_your_s8s8/
Since I really want to migrate to the new phone, I've looked for options to safely copy the data without having root:
CloneIT: Didnt migrate the apps' data.
Helium: Apps were backuped, but couldnt restore them. many of my apps are not supported by Helium.
Smart Switch: Not even sure if it can migrate apps' data or not, but unfortunately - it didnt even run properly on my S6, once installed - there's a splash screen coming up, that vanishes after couple of seconds. I've read posts of other users complaining about this very same behavior. couldn't find a solution to make it run. it works find on the S8.
I googled, and found that there are a bunch of companies that sell complete migration tools (that require PC/Mac), did anyone check any of these, and can share a honest review?
None of them is free for use/download.
Here are some that I've found (there are more out there):
https://www.phonetransfer.org/
https://www.recovery-android.com/android-data-backup-restore.html
https://www.coolmuster.com/mobile-transfer.html
https://www.gihosoft.com/mobile-phone-transfer.html
https://www.android-data-recovery.org/phone-transfer
https://mobiletrans.wondershare.com/
I've always rooted my phones, so being root-less is a bit new to me. should I just take the chance and root it?
Both Android and TouchWiz are quite mature now, allowing us to enjoy a smooth and slick operation - when combined with the powerful hardware the S8 is equipped with, right out of the box.
What are your reasons for rooting?
How did all of your migrate your phones? started everything from scratch?
If not - how did you migrate from your previous phone?
Is the current rooting solution safe enough? And if its not - and we'll wait until a 'safe' rooting solution is out - how can we keep our apps & data continuously (in my case: S6--> Non rooted S8 --> Rooted S8)?
Does any of the paid solutions I listed above really work?
Would love to hear your thoughts and advises.
I rooted my phone because I would like to customize my own phone as it is mine. DriveDroid, FolderMount, Titanium Backup, smartdisk, and so on. It doesn't matter how good a phone is without root, for me, it is garbage if I cannot customize it. Get a unrootable phone just as powerful as the desktop PC, and I'll find it garbage regardless of smoothness.
Well put me down for wondering if any of these without root will restore app data....
I'm on stock ROM and is there any option extract app data without root? ADB doesn't work maybe app developer doesn't give permission because of sensitive data. You know, rooting process or to install custom recovery even without root cause wipes the phone data. So they'll not work for me. Is there any option to solve it that I don't know or overlook?
Unfortunately I believe it's not possible...
Hi, why not try a custom ROM ?
Better apps let you save their data. For ones like Poweramp it's a god sent.
If you're doing a hard reload it may be best not to save most app data though as it may have been the cause of the crash.
Use a separate data drive if phone supports a SD card. Always keep critical data at least 2x backed up ie to laptop or a hdd.
Use AkpExport to make copies of all user apps and system updates to use during reloads. That way there's no guesswork and no Playstore is needed. Makes reloads much faster too.
I can reload and be 99% done is about 2 hrs now.
Lol after 2 back to back forced reloads I streamline the process. Doing a reload now is easy. Reloads aren't needed often but they are eventually necessary.
Plan ahead as all it takes is one unstable app or very rarely a virus, trojan etc.
For PC clones I use only the base app load and configure the system/homescreen settings. All data is kept on a data hdd not the OS hhd. Apps like antivirus are never on the clone.
That way my clone copy is always relevant.