OnePlus One weird charging rates - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a OnePlus One and the charging is odd. At the wall with the official OnePlus One it charger and cable at the rate of roughly .88a to 1.2a and sometimes more. With my Power Bank which is a Hotway ProBox 10400mAh Power Bank Black it charges at the rate of just about .4 to .5 which is not enough for my phone while in use. The Power Bank can output to a total if both usb ports if both are in use up to a total of 2.1a together and just one and that's with the cable that it came with! Even with the OnePlus One usb cable its not that much different. The Power Bank is pretty much new as I have bought it a few days ago. The voltages is normal (5v-ish) when charging with the official charger but when charging the Power Bank it charging at the rate of right now as I am charging it it hovers around 4.8v .55a I have checked that it is charging on AC not on USB. I have done extensive research that it is the cable the cable that is the problem but its really not in my case since I was using the cables that came with the charger and the Power Bank. I have gotten these numbers with my Charger Doctor not some app which is something more accurate.....
There is no warranty with the phone since its the chinese model. I have gotten the phone a couple of months before the OnePlus 2 since I kinda need a camera for school work for a school trip coming up and One Plus does not ship to Australia. Right now I am broke and not willing to crack open the phone.
Oh sorry if I misused some terminology here.

mehdont said:
I have a OnePlus One and the charging is odd. At the wall with the official OnePlus One it charger and cable at the rate of roughly .88a to 1.2a and sometimes more. With my Power Bank which is a Hotway ProBox 10400mAh Power Bank Black it charges at the rate of just about .4 to .5 which is not enough for my phone while in use. The Power Bank can output to a total if both usb ports if both are in use up to a total of 2.1a together and just one and that's with the cable that it came with! Even with the OnePlus One usb cable its not that much different. The Power Bank is pretty much new as I have bought it a few days ago. The voltages is normal (5v-ish) when charging with the official charger but when charging the Power Bank it charging at the rate of right now as I am charging it it hovers around 4.8v .55a I have checked that it is charging on AC not on USB. I have done extensive research that it is the cable the cable that is the problem but its really not in my case since I was using the cables that came with the charger and the Power Bank. I have gotten these numbers with my Charger Doctor not some app which is something more accurate.....
There is no warranty with the phone since its the chinese model. I have gotten the phone a couple of months before the OnePlus 2 since I kinda need a camera for school work for a school trip coming up and One Plus does not ship to Australia. Right now I am broke and not willing to crack open the phone.
Oh sorry if I misused some terminology here.
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Slow charging... Anyone else?

I've seen a few things online with no charging problems. Mine will charge but super slow. Overnight it will only charge to about 73%. Tried battery calibration and still nothing. Any tricks or fixes I don't know about?
Are you using the original charger and cable? You need at least a 2amp charger and the original cable to charge properly.
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Are you using the original charger and cable? You need at least a 2amp charger and the original cable to charge properly.
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He is right. Older chargers are not 2 amp, and so they will charge, but very slowly. You don't have to necessarily use the original cable, or the stock charger. Really any cable will get you fast charging as long as the block that plugs into the wall is a 2 amp. Chargers that will charge tablets usually work. My wife has an LG G3 and the charger for that works as well.
bradleyw801 said:
He is right. Older chargers are not 2 amp, and so they will charge, but very slowly. You don't have to necessarily use the original cable, or the stock charger. Really any cable will get you fast charging as long as the block that plugs into the wall is a 2 amp. Chargers that will charge tablets usually work. My wife has an LG G3 and the charger for that works as well.
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Totally untrue and very bad, maybe even dangerous, advice...
Use a sub-standard cable with a 2 amp charger and you run a very serious risk of overheating, damaging the phone or charger, and even the risk of an electrical fire.
Always use good quality cables and chargers, and read other people's recommendations as to what are good. Buying a cheap set just to save a few quid could cost you your phone, or much more.
SimonTS said:
Totally untrue and very bad, maybe even dangerous, advice...
Use a sub-standard cable with a 2 amp charger and you run a very serious risk of overheating, damaging the phone or charger, and even the risk of an electrical fire.
Always use good quality cables and chargers, and read other people's recommendations as to what are good. Buying a cheap set just to save a few quid could cost you your phone, or much more.
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I agree if you buy a cable that ignores safety standards you could cause a fire, but that to me just has to do with being a cheap cable. Here is some information that supports what I am saying:
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...ks-or-how-to-avoid-blowing-up-your-smartphone
To quote that article "USB 1.0 and 2.0 specs, a standard downstream port is capable of delivering up to 500mA (0.5A); in USB 3.0, it moves up to 900mA (0.9A). The charging downstream and dedicated charging ports provide up to 1500mA (1.5A)"
Also, "You can plug any USB device into any USB cable and into any USB port, and nothing will blow up — and in fact, using a more powerful charger should speed up battery charging."
So perhaps I should explain to the person that asked the question, if your cable is more than a few years old, it may still charge slowly. You need it to be at least USB 3.0. But most cables sold in the last few years are USB 3.0.
Using a cheap quality cable, sure, that's always a bad idea no matter what. Using an older cable, the worst that could happen (assuming it's not in poor condition) is that it will only let .5amps through.
I charged mine last night for 7 hours and it only has 22% battery.
I originally bought a One Plus One in February 2015. It broke and I had to go through the extensive RMA process. Since they shipped the replacement phone to me, I have been noticing more and more problems. The latest being the charging. I cannot get it to charge correctly. Since the RMA process took a month (Feb 22 - March 22), I'm very reluctant to do it again. Considering selling this and going back to AT&T. Or at least some company that has phone support/any support.
I plugged it in 5 minutes ago at 7% battery and now its dead.
Jess650 said:
I charged mine last night for 7 hours and it only has 22% battery.
I originally bought a One Plus One in February 2015. It broke and I had to go through the extensive RMA process. Since they shipped the replacement phone to me, I have been noticing more and more problems. The latest being the charging. I cannot get it to charge correctly. Since the RMA process took a month (Feb 22 - March 22), I'm very reluctant to do it again. Considering selling this and going back to AT&T. Or at least some company that has phone support/any support.
I plugged it in 5 minutes ago at 7% battery and now its dead.
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Are you using the original charger and cable?
Thanks for input guys. I do not have my original charger anymore. My wife's new kitten has made quick work if several chargers. I purchased one yesterday at local Verizon store. 2amp chargers are actually hard to find. So this is what I got. It charges fast again. Charged my phone from 5% to 71% in about 40 minutes. This model actually States 2.1 amp.
A great replacement is the original Blackberry Playbook charger with the non-removeable cable. Almost as fast as my original charger and a sensible price as well.
Install any ROM except the ones based on Omni.. (like the SlimROMs) and flash boeffla kernel. Keep the AC Charging Current up to 2200A. It says it may damage the USB Cable or charger but nothing ever happened to my Galaxy S3 (on the same kernel) or OPO. It charges extremely fast with the original USB cable and charger. Try it! Worked for all my friends!

[Q] Charging w/ alternate chargers... a risk?

I bought a brand-new Nexus 5 a few weeks ago. However it came with a 0.85A wall charger which is LG branded... and some 'generic' cable that was included too. Used it twice, but it took around 8-10 hours just to charge 80% of it. I plugged my old Galaxy Ace USB cable to the LG charger and it reduced to two and a half hours, same with my alternate charger from the aforementioned phone (5.0V + 0.7A).
But this led me to a question: Is using alternate chargers with < 1.2A of output a risky way to charge my Nexus 5 battery? I saw somewhere that it might even damage the circuit board (a rare case) and I'm a bit worried about it.
Using a charger with a lower amperage output will take longer for the phone to charge. Also, using a cheaper cable will also lengthen the charge time as the cable can pass the full amount of power to the phone. This has been my experience with using oem cables vs dolls store cables me chargers.
audit13 said:
Using a charger with a lower amperage output will take longer for the phone to charge. Also, using a cheaper cable will also lengthen the charge time as the cable can pass the full amount of power to the phone. This has been my experience with using oem cables vs dolls store cables me chargers.
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But... Will a Samsung wall charger with 0.7A of output damage my phone if I use it as my main charger? Because I also have a chinaphone which came with a bad charger and the Samsung one works fine.
No, the Samsung charger @ 0.7A will not damage the phone. I use a 1.0 A and 2.0 A Samsung charger with my N5 and it has been fine for months and months.
With the Samsung 0.7A charger, battery gets charged in 2:10 hours. I still don't understand it since I came from a low-end Samsung device which could complete its charge in about three hours (and that one had a 1500mAh battery...)
This is a tricky question, no doubt about it.
IMO, the cable quality is way more important than the current output (0.7 A, 0.85 A, etc).
I have a Samsung S4 charger with its cable (it seems very well built and it's thicker than other cables) and my N5 goes from 10% to fully charged in less than 3 hours.
Funny facts - happened to me:
- I had a very cheap cable (probably from China) that came with a battery bank. Surprisingly, it was the fastest way to charge my phone - reached almost 2.0 A. Later I found the trick: this cable doesn't have all the four wires, it only had two (positive and negative, without the data wires). I believe the data wires is used to perform some kind of amperage control; without it, no control was done and led to a very fast (probably dangerous) charging. I don't use this cable anymore, chances are that this nasty cable screwed up my notebook battery
- My N5 is almost two years old. Recently I had a problem with the Power button, the internal contact of the switch on the board was stuck 'pressed' and this led my phone to an endlessly force-reboot. I discovered this behavior after some google search and one of the possible causes of it is exactly the usage of a non-default / faster charger, it said that this could melt something - SOURCE
It makes sense, but I can't confirm this. I was able to fix this by smashing the phone on a table a few times (lol) and I'm still using a non-default charger
Can anyone confirm / say something about these facts?
For those who wants to see the diference between cables and chargers, give this app a try:
Play Store - Ampere
This app is a current meter, I use it on a regular basis and it is pretty reliable - the dev it's a XDA member and this app can be discussed here
Hope this helps!
You can not harm a phone with a 5 volt charger. The phone takes the amps it needs. More is better than less. I use 2 amp, 5 volt ones. As has been said the usb cable is the key thing. The better quality the better charge.

Charging Pixel with old phone chargers

As I'm sure is the case for many of you, I have a ton of typical USB chargers around the house, which supply anywhere from 0.8A to 1.5A output. Going with the assumption that I don't care how long it takes to charge, is there any risk with using the USB C-A cable that came with my pixel and plugging into any of those old USB chargers? They should all work, right? Just as different speeds depending on the output current?
I am not an expert, but from my research into the safety of USB-A to USB-C cables, the "risk" will generally come as a result of purchasing a cheap cable that does not have the appropriate (56k) resistor. The cable that came directly from google has the appropriate resistor and is not low quality, so it will be safe to plug into any functioning USB port (either on your computer or a charger).
That being said, if you have a malfunctioning charger, or there is power surge etc., that is an "act of god" and what happens happens
You may actually be better off using these old chargers if they work correctly. The slower you charge your phone, the better it is for the longevity (years) of your battery.
Yeah, that is why I didn't care about charging speed. For plugging it in next to my bed each night, I figure slower is better. However, I just received a mini USB to USB C from Amazon, and used that to plug my pixel in last night to a 1a charger. And while the phone did say charging over USB, it didn't gain any battery overnight and instead continued to discharge until I woke up in the morning. Is anyone else seeing anything like that?
Not trying to be mean or name call but I personally think you all are crazy. Buying a $700 phone and using a cheap charger that could have the risk to break your phone. Especially if you know better. Honestly, spending the $30-$40 from a charger from Google or an approved charger is just smart for the long term and not risk losing $700. Just my 2 cents. I did the same for the car charger.
Sure, I hear your point. But honestly I know that it is better for the battery to charge slower, so I would rather use a low power charger next to my bed each night, and only use the included quick charger when I need a quick top-off.
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Sure, I hear your point. But honestly I know that it is better for the battery to charge slower, so I would rather use a low power charger next to my bed each night, and only use the included quick charger when I need a quick top-off.
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Have to consider 2 points since there are so many inaccuracies about this subject:
1) Inadequate chargers with insufficient output cause batteries to become overheated, consequently reduce battery charging cycles. Smart batteries are not adversely affected by certified quick chargers.
2) Turbo chargers do not "top off". When a battery gets to around 80%, the appropriate charger begins its slower charging as to not overload it. Once at 100%, charging stops, and the maintenance process begins. As battery level drops to around 97.6%, trickle charging begins.
In sum, a certified, OEM-equivalent quick charger, even with higher output would not damage batteries.
The phone supports most standards however usb c and Qualcomm quick charge are not compatible and you fall back to 5v 3 amp at best. Make sure to fully insert the cable into the phone. It has to click. I've accidently not charged overnight that way.
I've got a bunch of turbo chargers that I've accumulated over the years. Using a non-[manufacturer of current phone] charger has never damaged my phone. I just bought a 10 pack of USB C adapters and popped one on every charger so I can continue using my old ones. No issues yet and I don't anticipate any.
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joshw0000 said:
I've got a bunch of turbo chargers that I've accumulated over the years. Using a non-[manufacturer of current phone] charger has never damaged my phone. I just bought a 10 pack of USB C adapters and popped one on every charger so I can continue using my old ones. No issues yet and I don't anticipate any.
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Sure, you can use non-oem chargers. That's not the problem. Issues only potentially arise when the chargers do not provide adequate output, or their "smart" capabilities are not up to specs. I use all kinds of chargers bought at Verizon, Best Buy, etc. I also use Amazon chargers as long as they're not too far off OEM requirements. Also, people don't think about the importance of a good, thick cable.
I have a ton of Samsung fast chargers and Samsung USB a to c cables . Would those be safe?
parmend said:
I have a ton of Samsung fast chargers and Samsung USB a to c cables . Would those be safe?
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Many will say no big deal. However, I'd say let's hear it from the horse's mouth. Here's Google engineer Benson Leung https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/cEvVQLXhyRX. You be the judge.
Bottom line, to answer your question, no, quick charging methodology used by Samsung and Motorola is not supported by the Pixel. Your phone will charge at a slower rate. Will it damage the phone in the long run? Likely not. Well, I'll let you guys test for me.

Seeking Recommendation for Power Delivery Car Charger

Seeking recommendations for a USB Power Delivery car charger (for rapid charging). Ideally I would like something that's low profile so my console door can close over it when not in use
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/173036242115
I have this. Nice to have a QC3.0 & PD3.0 USB options on the same charger. Meagoes car charger model CC003
No wires included tho
feeway730 said:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/173036242115
I have this. Nice to have a QC3.0 & PD3.0 USB options on the same charger. Meagoes car charger model CC003
No wires included tho
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No wires included is just what I was looking for! I have so dang many - Thank you!!!
I'm curious if anyone has used any of these chargers for the Essential phone. I'm probably gonna grab the second one I link below and will test with my usb-c power meter and report back when I have time but if anyone else has direct experience I'd love to hear it.
This one looks a lot like what we need but it oddly states "not compatible with Essential" though there are reviews stating it does and does not work
https://smile.amazon.com/Nekteck-Ce...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RH73X9QDHJD8QPDN6DHG
This one has a little more power than the previous and does state that it works with essential though it claims that the PH1 negotiates via the 12V rail instead of the 9V meaning it is pulling less than 3Amps and therefore flags on the lockscreen as "charging slowly" even though it does charge fast.
https://smile.amazon.com/Nekteck-Ce...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RH73X9QDHJD8QPDN6DHG
This one is a nice looking wall charger but also oddly states not compatible even though it has the right specifications.
https://smile.amazon.com/Nekteck-Ce...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RH73X9QDHJD8QPDN6DHG
This one is wildly overkill for the PH1 and also states it has the same 12V rail thing as charger 2
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0721KG2Q7/ref=?ie=UTF8&m=A3GMRWNJ2V9TRM
This one has a built in cable but also states the same 12V rail bug
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0719KV9PH/ref=?ie=UTF8&m=A3GMRWNJ2V9TRM
So update...
I bought these two chargers off amazon, buy the car charger and the other charger is 50% off.
Both show charging rapidly when connected to the Essential phone so whatever mistake there used to be with it selecting the wrong rail or it not being reported correctly seems to not be an issue on oreo 8.1. I tested both with my usb-c meter and they seemed to provide something between 5 and 9 volts and anywhere from around 1 to 2.6 amps depending on charge level of the phone at the time.
Over all these seem like solid chargers and they are USB-IF certified so in theory the manufacturer isn't playing fast and loose with the charging specs like some do.
https://smile.amazon.com/Nekteck-Ce...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RH73X9QDHJD8QPDN6DHG
https://smile.amazon.com/Nekteck-Ce...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=RH73X9QDHJD8QPDN6DHG
looks like monoprice is in the game now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27W-Car-Charger-with-USB-C-and-1A-USB-A-Ports/391954642515
weak usb-a, but usb-c supports [email protected]=27w
I bought this one
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B079MWXSS8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
27W on Power Delivery and ~10W on USB-A
Has 45 day money back and 2 year warranty.
It costs more than the others, but I've never had an Aukey charger go south.
I got a https://www.amazon.com/Trianium-Charge-Charger-Samsung-Nintendo/dp/B01LXY0ECN . It has QC3.0 and PD. Works very well for me. Not the cheapest and it's one of the few which works very reliably after trying out more than 5 such chargers. Some don't supply enough power, some says they are PD but yet charges slowly. Only this one really worked for me. It's almost $20 but worth it for me

How fast is OP6 charging without dash rapid charger?

I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a non-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
Stay on topic guys. OP asked a question, which could be answered with facts, rather than opinions and scenarios. In my regular car charger, I go from 22 to about 70 in 40 minutes, if I can recall correctly.
ItsLaggyY said:
Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
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I'm not sure if you're serious or sarcastic, but In case of the former, here are a few reasons why someone might be interested in charging with other than the Dash Charger:
1) AFAIK, Dash is available in AC mains or 12V Car charger versions. I often use a 20K mAH Anker powerbank battery for charging. That is usually in situations where other power is not available, but a quick charge is needed. Huge current is available, but would the OP6 use it?
2) I use a compact travel charger that has 5 USB charging ports. Using a Dash charger would require carrying another charger (big, bulky, without retractable prongs), and occupying one (or more due to the shape) additional AC outlets.
3) I have a phone charger in my bedroom, at my desk, in my travel bag (both AC and Car style), and in my car. A quick check on Amazon seems to indicate that the Oneplus6 charger is several times more expensive than other "quick charge" chargers. Over multiple charger locations, the extra costs add up.
Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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I'm Irish, apology
I have a stockpile of fast chargers that used the weird Nexus standard (5V, 3A, non QC) and they're okay, and for overnight or at my desk at work that's plenty fast to get the job done. The phone shows them as "charging" and not "charging slowly."
I purchased a "Tinduqin oneplus5T charger" from Amazon that works and looks exactly the same as the original dash charger for about $20, but it seems to already be sold out.
If you don't use dash charger,you only can charge at 5v 1.5a,I have tested it with apple 45w pd charger,xiaomi qc3.0 and nexus 5v3a charger
timg11 said:
I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a anon-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
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It won't charge very fast because it doesn't use any on board quick charge it's all in the dash charging brick
I have a bunch quick chargers 3.0 at home. It takes a life time. I end up buying the dash charger. I still use the quick charger for over night charging
there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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Do you own the OP6? Do you have a USB power meter that could measure the charging current with and without the Dash charger and reply with the values?
On my Note 4, it charges at about 1.17A / 5 V when the screen is on, and the current goes up to 1.6A with the screen off. That is with either a QC2 Quick Charger or a battery power pack. The phone reports "quick charger connected" in both cases.
oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
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Is it possible to use a the original DASH-adapter but with another USB-C cable? I need a longer cable so I can use the phone whilwe charging.
OnePlus has a original cable for sale which is only 150cm Long.
My question is if I can buy any other manufacturers cable whish also support some sort of fast charging. I've heard for example that DASH-charging is the same charging model that Huawei P20 Pro uses, they just have different name. .
So, is there anyone here that has switched the OP original cable and charge it up with a cable from another manufacturer?
There has to be a solution to this. Me myself can't. be the only one that needs s longer cable.
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oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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That's normal. Phones pull the most amps when on low battery, then progressively less as they are charged.
Check how much it pulls on <40% and <80% respectively.
Well, I charged my Op6 with a no-name USB 3.0 charger yesterday (forgot my dash charger at home, I was by a friend) and from 3% to 100% it took about ~1 hour and 55 minutes.
Not that bad I guess. But I still prefer my dash charger
I'm using a huawei p20 pro charger atm. Phone states from 75 - 100 it will take 33 minutes. (prob a bit faster if I don't use the phone.
Here is a charging session with a Oneplus 2 charger without quick charge
Charging from 27% to 100% in 2 hrs, 40 min - avg. Charging speed: about 1000 mA/h
Hello,
I'm using this old thread since we're talking about the same thing.
Is there a kernel or rom for the OP6 that enables to draw as much current as possible form third party chargers? It's sad that it's stuck at 1.5A no matter the charger unless you use dash charger. 2A is already something, 3A would be awesome.
Of course only if this a software limit.

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