which one is best in bluetooth headphones?? - General Questions and Answers

which one best in low cost bluetooth headphones??

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Higher Quality Handsfree?

Is there a higher quality handsfree headphone/microphone for the samsung i9000 than the one that comes with the package?
I recently tried listening to my ipod with it and found the quality is very bad
Is there a higher quality one?
I use a pair of high end Sony in-ear phones and they sound awesome.
Much better than the stock.

[Q] Sound / Audio Quality? (HOS)

Hi!
Audio quality is a considerably important factor to me when I purchase a phone. I have a pair of Westone 4 IEMs (high-end), so my question is simple.
How good is the sound quality on the HTC One S?
I used to have a Samsung Galaxy S i9000 and the audio quality with voodoo sound fix applied was reasonably good imho, does the HTC One S compare?
Please do not comment on d sound quality with the headphones that are included with the phone or other cheap headphones, that includes Beats Solos.
Depends on what sound you want to know about.
The external sound is great. It achieves a decently high volume with minimum to no distortion. Beat audio does NOT effect the external sound, meaning it has no effect and does not turn on. Although the speaker is on the back, it does not get muffled if the phone is face up. For me, this speaker was an EXTREME upgrade from my Nexus One. I was surpirsed how well it sounds and how loud it can go.
[*]The in-call sound is real good as well. Not too much to say here, its real easy to hear the other person and it has been the most life-like sound I have experienced in regards to in-call sound.
The headphones have real good quality (ones I bought, this device does not come with a cheap pair by default). I think that Beats does good when it comes to enhancing the sound of music. Some think it is extremely amazing, I think it helps out greatly, but does not give completely unbelievable sound that you never heard before. It basically boosts bass and treble slightly giving a bit of a crisper sound over stock. I still use PowerAmp (media player) which has its own separate EQ system. It sounds amazing when combined with Beats.
Conclusion, Beats + good headphones = amazing sound quality, Beats + good headphones + additional DSP EQ setting (such as PowerAmp) = Best quality you will ever hear. I am an audiophile and I have to have my music sound perfect for all genres, rap to rock.

[Q] Speakers and sub >$200 for TV and computer

Like the title I'm looking for the best speakers and sub for that low price. Preferably under 150, my max for speakers alone is 100. If there are speakers that can produce a decent bass response that would be fine as well. I'm on a budget and need sound for my tv and laptop. My TV has an optical audio out and my laptop AFAIK only has 3.5mm so please recommend something with optical audio. Thank you.

Smartphone with LOUDest volume

Hi,
I'm looking for smartphone that has very loud speaker volume while playing music. I don't really like headphones while jogging outside and I prefer phone speakers. I currently have HTC m8 but even with it's front facing speakers and BoomSound effect it still isn't loud enough for me while running outside. It's great indoors nonetheless. I have sort of measuring its volume while playing rock music (A7X, FOB, Blink 182, ADTR etc) and it reaches around 75-77 dbs under Max volume.
It's hard to find a good review about phone speakers. I know nexus 6p is loud but it turns me off since it doesn't support SD cards. Moto X pure seems good but I don't have data of its loudness. Xpedia c4 or c5 seems to be loud also but I need some input on its loudness outdoors.
Any good recommendation on buying the LOUDEST smartphone for music? Any brand any kinds of input are greatly appreciated. Thanks! (Marshall London is loud and has the best audio but specs are really low)

Audio Quality? (3.5mm Jack Output)

Can anyone offer impressions of the audio quality, of the 3.5mm jack output?
The SD 845 should provide a decent DAC, but the question is: How good is the audio amplifier feeding the 3.5mm jack output? (Power, distortion, S/N, etc.)
Wondering if this might be one place OP economized to reduce cost. Don't see any discussion about it anywhere...
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Any info or comments on OP6 3.5mm jack audio quality would be appreciated.
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I only have cheaper in-ears and they sound as bad as everywhere else If you really need a good output maybe consider the G7
My apple ear buds sounded just fine with the OP6 but the sound volume is a bit low when i use the aux out with my car stereo. My iPhone 6 had a better audio output on my car stereo compared to OP6. I will do more tests and try to come to a proper conclusion.
I normally use a Dragonfly red DAC but for science I used the 3.5mm jack. Unfortunately it sounded very average at best, kind of flat and narrow sound stage. Tested it with a pair of Shure 535.
roniistar said:
My apple ear buds sounded just fine with the OP6 but the sound volume is a bit low when i use the aux out with my car stereo. My iPhone 6 had a better audio output on my car stereo compared to OP6. I will do more tests and try to come to a proper conclusion.
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That's useful info, thanks.
Seems like iPhones have audio output that is good or better, so that is a good comparison.
Weak output is exactly what I am concerned about with the OP6. I believe the DAC function is handled by the SD845 which should be pretty good, but the power amp section between that and the 3.5mm jack is where OP may have reduced cost with lower spec hardware.
Weaker output will increase distortion, at normal listening levels the amp has to operate closer to max output which increases distortion.
I had a phone once with cheap audio HW feeding the 3.5mm jack, and I will not do that again. I had high hopes for the OP6, oh well.
What's striking about the OP6 is that there is virtually no mention anywhere about the 3.5mm audio output quality. A few bits here and there about the speakers, but all phone speakers sound tinny, more or less, audio quality is poor with all phone speakers, that's not where quality is ever good so who cares?
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I got to test the audio jack comparing to my OP3, using Sennheiser IE-8 IEMs. Now, you could probably get different results with other headphones, but these are very easy to drive, and the audio output was just so low compared to the OP3. I kind of also agree to the post above saying the soundstage being flat/narrow. Honestly I don't want another phone since OnePlus checks almost all of the smartphone boxes for me, but I gave up on the OP6 after doing that test.
I am using SONY wh-1000xm2 both with mini jack cable and over BT LDAC coded. In both conditions sound is rich and crips yet sligtly louder over BT.
MeggaMortY said:
I got to test the audio jack comparing to my OP3, using Sennheiser IE-8 IEMs. Now, you could probably get different results with other headphones, but these are very easy to drive, and the audio output was just so low compared to the OP3. I kind of also agree to the post above saying the soundstage being flat/narrow. Honestly I don't want another phone since OnePlus checks almost all of the smartphone boxes for me, but I gave up on the OP6 after doing that test.
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Thanks, another review indicating sub-par audio output power on the OP6 headphone jack.
I'm out, my V30S is on the way. (B&H has a really good deal right now, and bootloader unlock & root are available.)
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Tinkerer_ said:
That's useful info, thanks.
Seems like iPhones have audio output that is good or better, so that is a good comparison.
Weak output is exactly what I am concerned about with the OP6. I believe the DAC function is handled by the SD845 which should be pretty good, but the power amp section between that and the 3.5mm jack is where OP may have reduced cost with lower spec hardware.
Weaker output will increase distortion, at normal listening levels the amp has to operate closer to max output which increases distortion.
I had a phone once with cheap audio HW feeding the 3.5mm jack, and I will not do that again. I had high hopes for the OP6, oh well.
What's striking about the OP6 is that there is virtually no mention anywhere about the 3.5mm audio output quality. A few bits here and there about the speakers, but all phone speakers sound tinny, more or less, audio quality is poor with all phone speakers, that's not where quality is ever good so who cares?
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According to iFixit, OnePlus 6 has WCD9341 chip on board which is pretty decent DAC
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masi0 said:
According to iFixit, OnePlus 6 has WCD9341 chip on board which is pretty decent DAC
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I saw that, but the info on that "codec" (DAC etc.) by Qualcomm is not clear with respect to power amplification. WCD9341 appears to be integrated to the Snapdragon 845, and it would seem that analog audio power amplification of the output of the DAC itself would best be done outside of the SD845 because of heat dissipation and possibly EMI. Which means that a separate power amp section is used if this is so, and that is the place that OP might skimp.
Multiple anecdotes in this thread about weak audio on the OP6 3.5mm jack also support this likelihood.
I don't have a stake in this anymore, ordered a V30S. Headphone jack audio quality is more important than raw speed to me, and the V30S also has other advantages, for a B&H discounted price not much higher than OP6 right now.
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let's be honest - if you want good sound quality buy AudioQuest Black or Red and use it with good/decent headphones.
Despite I cant complain on headphone output/i use mailny Sony over LDAC I am planning to get one external DAC anyway
masi0 said:
let's be honest - if you want good sound quality buy AudioQuest Black or Red and use it with good/decent headphones.
Despite I cant complain on headphone output/i use mailny Sony over LDAC I am planning to get one external DAC anyway
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The problem with separate DAC like the Dragonfly is that... it is a separate DAC, with an extra $200 cost (Red). Using it with a phone on the go would require some kind of rigging e.g. Velcro. And that is the smallest/lightest example I think.
The ESS DAC in the V30(S) is said to perform similarly to DACs like the Dragonfly. It has a few caveats, like auto-detect load > auto-adjust output. There are a couple ways to address that stupidity though.
Not plugging for B&H, but their limited-time discount V30S price delta vs. OP6 is less than the price of a Dragonfly Red, and that also brings USB 3.1, a micro SD slot, and IP68.
Bowing out from OP6 thread now. Good luck.
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I am getting familiar with this a/b config tree....I will optimize the sound system, to a point that not even mainland will recognize it...... also, will try to make it dual speaker, when output=speaker.
untl then,
TURBO.
TURBO2012 said:
I am getting familiar with this a/b config tree....I will optimize the sound system, to a point that not even mainland will recognize it...... also, will try to make it dual speaker, when output=speaker.
untl then,
TURBO.
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That sounds interesting. Looking forward. All the best.
IMO you can't even listen to any phone w/out V4A. My OP6 sounds awesome with this installed and the power output was surprising.
I only shared how it is compared to the OP3 - now, you can surely software mod it, bit if the HW is limited, there's little you can do there - but to each their own. I value headphone output/quality too much so I'll just grab the next LG V40 when it comes out and don't bother with any trickery/external DACs/Amps.
Speaker is louder than my HTC10 (not quite as good sound quality but ok), earphone quality using black player and Jays-a-Jays heavy bass earphones is fine, I'm pleasantly surprised
vibrantliker said:
IMO you can't even listen to any phone w/out V4A. My OP6 sounds awesome with this installed and the power output was surprising.
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Mind sharing the installer!? And process too?
P.S. - I hope you did it without twrp!
I've also noticed quite a difference between power output on the OP6 compared to the OP3, sadly.

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