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When should we expect the release of KitKat for the Relay?
When TeamApexQ deems fit to release it.
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When TeamApexQ deems fit to release it.
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Nardholio, do you expect any major innovations, and most importantly, any major sources of bugs or instabilities with KitKat?
Thanks!!
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Nardholio, do you expect any major innovations, and most importantly, any major sources of bugs or instabilities with KitKat?
Thanks!!
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That's a question we won't really be able to answer until there is more solid information on KitKat generally available.
Looks like CM is setting up the KitKat AOSP code for there builds Check out @CyanogenMod's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CyanogenMod/status/396000889011326976
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Cyanogenmod Google+ post " Android 4.4 Source
Source is now being pushed to the AOSP trees. Of course, when it is all there we will begin the process of figuring out what changed, needs work, and/or is no longer feasible or needed.*
We are not in a rush to get 4.4 builds out. We are going to continue the process of working on CM 10.2 M1 - getting that out the door and onto your devices. Further, we will 'finish' the 10.2 code base, similar to what we did with 10.1.*
As a friendly reminder, please don't flood us with requests for 4.4 - we all want new and shiny things, but we will not do so at the expense of abandoning the hard work our contributors have put into 10.2.*
Final note, a lot of folks are reading into the "512mb" item on the release notes. No, this does not mean a sudden resurrection of older hardware, there are dependencies beyond the RAM (and CM has enforced that minimum since ICS)."
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pst @Magamo this thread was best ended with a simple "when I say so" response and nothing more
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pst @Magamo this thread was best ended with a simple "when I say so" response and nothing more
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I actually was referring to an official KitKat OTA update from T-mobile.
How long did it take them to release a JB update after it was first introduced?
I have no interest in a CM ROM full of bugs and things that don't work.
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I actually was referring to an official KitKat OTA update from T-mobile.
How long did it take them to release a JB update after it was first introduced?
I have no interest in a CM ROM full of bugs and things that don't work.
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Given that we never got upgraded to 4.2 or 4.3 by T-mobile/Samsung, I kinda doubt we'll be getting an official 4.4. And our CM rom, which has been built for us by a couple of people working for free, currently has fewer bugs than the official ROMs.
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Given that we never got upgraded to 4.2 or 4.3 by T-mobile/Samsung, I kinda doubt we'll be getting an official 4.4. And our CM rom, which has been built for us by a couple of people working for free, currently has fewer bugs than the official ROMs.
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4.2 and 4.3 were minor updates with no name change. JB was a major update and they did update to it.
4.4 KitKat being a major update, I've got my fingers crossed considering the wide range of devices that it's being planned for.
Was just hoping to see if there was any news on a KK update for this model.
CM is fun to play with and all, but it's not something I would trust on an everyday phone.
I use CM as a daily driver every day, and have been doing so since 10.2 became CyanogenMod official - everything just works. Now I'm not one of those people who demands a LOT of my phone, but I use it in the course of doing my job daily and it performs better, and more efficiently (with regards to battery consumption) than it did on the debloated stock rom, so much so that I deleted my Nandroid of that setup.
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I use CM as a daily driver every day, and have been doing so since 10.2 became CyanogenMod official - everything just works. Now I'm not one of those people who demands a LOT of my phone, but I use it in the course of doing my job daily and it performs better, and more efficiently (with regards to battery consumption) than it did on the debloated stock rom, so much so that I deleted my Nandroid of that setup.
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I'm not sure if I fall into the category of demanding alot from my phone, but if there are issues like, Wifi and BT can't be on at the same time, that's not good enough. That's a serious issue. So if I forget to turn one of them off, stuff stops working? That's not okay...
I want my camera to work, for videos and photos. I want the phone to do everything the hardware is supposed to do.
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I'm not sure if I fall into the category of demanding alot from my phone, but if there are issues like, Wifi and BT can't be on at the same time, that's not good enough. That's a serious issue. So if I forget to turn one of them off, stuff stops working? That's not okay...
I want my camera to work, for videos and photos. I want the phone to do everything the hardware is supposed to do.
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Awesome! And you want that for free? You don't seem to appreciate a lot the effort that other people are putting into this...
The wifi/bluetooth issue isn't that bad. It only falls apart when WiFi is on and connected to a 2.4GHz access point, and bluetooth is on and connected to a bluetooth device. If you have an N wifi access point that operates at 5Ghz, you can just connect to that instead of the 2.4Ghz node and then the two play nice. It's what I do.
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The wifi/bluetooth issue isn't that bad. It only falls apart when WiFi is on and connected to a 2.4GHz access point, and bluetooth is on and connected to a bluetooth device. If you have an N wifi access point that operates at 5Ghz, you can just connect to that instead of the 2.4Ghz node and then the two play nice. It's what I do.
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I would do this if I had a 5GHz AP, but what I'm saying is that I don't want to have to worry about stuff like that.
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Awesome! And you want that for free? You don't seem to appreciate a lot the effort that other people are putting into this...
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I don't want anything for free, except a stock KitKat update from T-Mobile/Samsung for the hardware I paid for... At no point did I say I was interested in CM. I've been explaining why I'm not, the whole time.
I started this thread to find out how long historically after the release of a new OS, does it usually take Samsung/T-Mobile to release an OTA?
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I would do this if I had a 5GHz AP, but what I'm saying is that I don't want to have to worry about stuff like that.
I don't want anything for free, except a stock KitKat update from T-Mobile/Samsung for the hardware I paid for... At no point did I say I was interested in CM. I've been explaining why I'm not, the whole time.
I started this thread to find out how long historically after the release of a new OS, does it usually take Samsung/T-Mobile to release an OTA?
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Normally only after the Samsung high-end phones get the update and they are just barely getting Android 4.3. It also depends if they decide to update this phone at all. I have been asking t-mobile and Samsung that and they keep blaming each other or referring me to the forum for the phone on there websites.
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Normally only after the Samsung high-end phones get the update and they are just barely getting Android 4.3. It also depends if they decide to update this phone at all. I have been asking t-mobile and Samsung that and they keep blaming each other or referring me to the forum for the phone on there websites.
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I guess Windows has spoiled me, because I don't understand how it's so hard to port Android to each device.
AMD or Intel, they both use the same instruction set, so they work on any x86/x64 processor, and then you install drivers for your hardware peripherals.
Shouldn't Android run on any ARM processor, and then just have drivers that need to be plugged into it for each component of the phone to work?
Apparently it's a lot more complicated than that, but why...
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I guess Windows has spoiled me, because I don't understand how it's so hard to port Android to each device.
AMD or Intel, they both use the same instruction set, so they work on any x86/x64 processor, and then you install drivers for your hardware peripherals.
Shouldn't Android run on any ARM processor, and then just have drivers that need to be plugged into it for each component of the phone to work?
Apparently it's a lot more complicated than that, but why...
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A lot of the complexity comes from the manufacturers of the SoCs not opening up the workings of their drivers to the wider world that makes porting to new devices, and to new versions of Android so difficult. Things work on one kernel, or one interface, and that's it, and we have no way of tweaking it to work in other ways. Back to the subject at hand. I personally suspect that the Relay will get no official update to KitKat. The Relay is over a year old, T-Mobile has been trying to dump it since 2013 began, and they are the only retailer. The 4.1.2 Jelly Bean updates were rolling out to the then mainline Samsung phones within a week of the Relay's release in September 2012, and we didn't get our update (which frankly is a broken PoS, ESPECIALLY when held up against any CM build for the Relay) until March or April of '13, so expect another 6 months before we MIGHT (and likely won't) get an official 4.3 update.
Looks like coding for CM 11 has started. Check out @CyanogenMod's Tweet: https://twitter.com/CyanogenMod/status/397817644650205185
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Magamo said:
A lot of the complexity comes from the manufacturers of the SoCs not opening up the workings of their drivers to the wider world that makes porting to new devices, and to new versions of Android so difficult. Things work on one kernel, or one interface, and that's it, and we have no way of tweaking it to work in other ways. Back to the subject at hand. I personally suspect that the Relay will get no official update to KitKat. The Relay is over a year old, T-Mobile has been trying to dump it since 2013 began, and they are the only retailer. The 4.1.2 Jelly Bean updates were rolling out to the then mainline Samsung phones within a week of the Relay's release in September 2012, and we didn't get our update (which frankly is a broken PoS, ESPECIALLY when held up against any CM build for the Relay) until March or April of '13, so expect another 6 months before we MIGHT (and likely won't) get an official 4.3 update.
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Ah k I see. The hardware vendors are mostly to blame it seems.
I may try a stable CM11 if that ever sees the light of day, but I won't hold my breath.
I've heard about the official JB ROM being problematic, so I plan to stay on ICS the phone originally shipped with.
I'm just glad to be getting rid of my Droid3 and Gingerbread.
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Ah k I see. The hardware vendors are mostly to blame it seems.
I may try a stable CM11 if that ever sees the light of day, but I won't hold my breath.
I've heard about the official JB ROM being problematic, so I plan to stay on ICS the phone originally shipped with.
I'm just glad to be getting rid of my Droid3 and Gingerbread.
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True, there have been some bugs. However, I use the official nightly of cm10.2 as a daily driver. I'd rather put up with the MINOR issues that are left (hardware is stable for the most part) than have a manufacturer ROM. IMHO, the stock ROM that comes with the phone is usually full of crap bloat ware that I don't use and takes up space, and a UI that is SEVERELY limited in customization.
Also, the more people participate and report problems, the faster it takes TeamApex to fix and push out. At least team apex RESPONDS to their users. As mentioned before, it can take as long as 6-8 months after an android release for the manufacturer to roll out an update...still full of crap ware that's NOT used and cannot be uninstalled without root privileges or botching up the UI further.
These people who work tirelessly to provide to us, the end user, an updated version of Android, do so out of their own free will, and don't get a penny. These devs are here to proudly share what they have created, and I applaud and give my utmost respect to them.
You don't wanna install aftermarket firmware? Don't want to aid in bug reporting? Fine, put up with the crap that the manufacturer pushes onto you. Plus, Samsung & T-Mobile don't get any more of your hard earn dollars rolling out an Android update for our year-old device. They'd rather you dump it and buy the latest phone. THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS MODEL! So they have no interest in rushing an update to something as "old" as the Relay.
If you want JB or KK and are unwilling to wait for & install after-market firmware, I suggest you pony up the dough and buy a nexus 5. Better still, learn how to dev and make your own version of JB or KK for the Relay. That's the beauty of open source.
Your rant and *****ing about when "they are going to develop Kit Kat" makes you come across as arrogant, snobbish, and child-like.
Sorry for MY ranting, but it's unappreciative asshats like andre that just piss me off.
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Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?
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Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?
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Some people prefer different launchers or ROMs or to have access to certain functions (e.g. full backup) that require root. I've had my N5 for a month and haven't felt the need for it, so I'm still stock, locked, unrooted.
Xposed for me.
Most of the mods from Custom ROMs with the OTA updates from Google
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Xposed framework, Adaway, Lmt launcher, AppOps, AutomateIt Pro... Basicly everything to take control over your device.
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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I wouldn't call them minor tweaks at all. There is an extremely wide variety of things that require your phone to be rooted. Often times an app will have limited functionality without root.
Please note that rooting your phone has nothing to do with using a custom rom. (You can in fact have a custom rom that is not rooted) Your problems with your prior phone were not in any way as a result of rooting the phone. If you had problems with the rom (sometimes custom roms have broken components) that has nothing to do with having root access.
At this point, I'd be willing to bet the most common usage of the phone at this point (amongst users of this site) are those who are rooted, but still using the stock rom. More and more users are migrating to the custom roms, but this is because rom development takes a bit of time with major releases.
AdAway is the main reason for me - I HATE adverts with a passion!
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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what you consider "minor tweaks", might be a big deal for someone else. Tastes differ.
i root because of 1 main reason, i paid for the device and i believe i should be able to have full control over it.
Another thing is, whatever i do with my phone, i always know what i'm doing and why i'm doing it, so the odds of screwing something up are very little. In case i do need to claim warranty, i know how to set everything back.
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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Ehm...why did you buy a nexus? Actually i don't even know what you are doing on xda. No offense but... Sound more like an iPhone kind a guy...
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It's up to you whether to root or not. Whatever problems you had with your previous device, it wasn't due to rooting persay, but rather what you did with root access. Rooting doesn't change anything, it just gives you administrative access to the operating system. Running un-rooted is analogous to accessing your desktop PC through a guest account. Rooting your Android device gives you full access like you have on your desktop as as an administrator.
He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.
bblzd said:
He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.
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Maybe someday he'll want to tether.
AT LEAST UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER
Fastboot OEM Unlock
That easy, it'll erase EVERYTHING. So if you do it now you won't lose much. Do it later when you want to root (like my mother and myself) you'll have to unlock and lose everything.
If you ever need you return it just lock it again it's easy. And you won't lose ANYTHING for relocking it.
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Two words....
Franco kernel
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Titanium back up because I'm too lazy to reinstall all of my apps on my previous device.
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Not much reason to if your main use is as a "daily driver".
Mine is rooted mainly due to needing to use it for development work related to my job, but ad blocking and several xposed modules would require root anyways. That and I just can't help but mess with stuff like CPU frequency/voltage settings, etc.
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Two words....
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I second this.
I was previously on Galaxy S2 rooted. I'd tested some custom roms like chamaleon, cm, but at last, what i realized that I needed wasn't a lot of new features i only wanted a good battery performance and a fc and random reboots free phone.
So I returned to stock roms with the more stock-like rooted kernel with Xposed and some additions. At last I got a good battery performance to keep the phone full day without charging.
Now that my N5 is with me for about 6 or 7 weeks I don't need rooting, modding ... nothing. The performance for my daily use is about 30 hours between charges with almost 3 hours with screen on.
That is all I need!
And for backups (i've payed for titanium backup app for my S2) now I use ADB from command line and it's enought for me
Also, the Nexus in this conditions hasn't hanged yet.
It spent more than 350 hours until I decided to change to Dart and I had to restart the phone. this is much better than my old S2 that needed two or three weekly reboots even with stock rom.
So, i'm very happy with my non-rooted N5 but if I need to root it in the near future it will be not a problem to me doing it.
I use it for Titanium Backup myself, whose backups I periodically have uploaded to Box.com. Obviously it's there for when I want to change phone and want to restore app data, especially for game saves, but you also never know if your phone is going to malfunction and you have to wipe or get lost/stolen. I think it's pretty useful to have an app that automatically takes care of backing up your data for you.
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http://lifehacker.com/top-10-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone-1079161983
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Just got my g2 a few days ago and am loving it so far. I am however missing a few things that root fixes, those of you that have rooted already would you say it's worth it at this point?
Seems like there are a lot of quirks with the g2 and custom ROMs (especially aosp). Just being a past Crack flasher I still get the itch. Thought I might ask before taking the plunge.
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This is the first phone I've been able to tolerate not being rooted. I do want it as soon as straight forward method surfaces, but I'm surprisingly content. I might add though I'm not a custom rom type of guy. I like to do my own mods and individual ports on stock rooted.
Agreed, for not rooting it yet I also am very happy. But just like you having the ability to customize it a little bit more would be nice.
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AspenSTi said:
Agreed, for not rooting it yet I also am very happy. But just like you having the ability to customize it a little bit more would be nice.
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rooted or not, this is the most useful phone for me. double clap!
I need root.
I have apps I need on my tablet that will only install on phones (titanium backup, restore to tablet).
I also can't navigate a phone without LMT any more *sigh*
The bright side is that I have things setup so that I can swap phones - and everything looks and functions the same.
TSF Shell (pricey, but practical), LMT Pie Only (from XDA) - with my 2nd row and long presses bunched up with all my common applications.
The interface is a "want" - but means I can pick up my moto X with republic wireless or my G2 with TMobile, and have the same functions in the same places - and immediate access to Gmail, SMS, phone, camera, music, Play store, AMZ play store, LIFX, and maps - all with one swipe.
It's gotten to be a muscle memory for app launching for me.
But... as for your use and needs, only you can really decide that.
As for custom roms....
I'm still on stock with Xposed...
G2 TweaksBox, LG Pie Support, and RootCloak enabled. That is.
I tried AOSP roms on my sprint G2, but didn't find any real benefits to it, nor any I was really happy with.
Normally I jump from stock ASAP. This phone - with Xposed - you really don't need to leave stock.
It's my understanding that tot is the method to use to root correct? And there aren't any of the white line or any other random issues while using the "stock" ROMs right?
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It's my understanding that tot is the method to use to root correct? And there aren't any of the white line or any other random issues while using the "stock" ROMs right?
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I think it would be better to stick with what is on the package. making some manipulation may have some issues in the future..
hey guys i wanted to request a lolipop rom runs on dalvik
why don't we have a port of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2762336
From that page:
Port Features: On 4.4.4 ports only!! 5.0.1 ports are pure stock with no tweaks, other than those that you do yourself
Lollipop doesn't use Dalvik--it's ART only.
In the post it says "On 4.4.4 ports only!! 5.0.1 ports are pure stock with no tweaks, other than those that you do yourself".... They haven't magically made a lollipop ROM that uses Dalvik rather than ART
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Lollipop is ART
You want dalvik, then you will need to go back to KitKat
Is your Xposed Framework really that important? I think not.
Why would you want a new rom running on an old runtime
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Lollipop is ART
You want dalvik, then you will need to go back to KitKat
Is your Xposed Framework really that important? I think not.
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For some people it is. I for one would much rather have 4.4.4 with Xposed than Lollipop. I think Lollipop sucks, tbqh. It's buggy as hell, and visually it looks like it was designed to appeal to soccer moms and teenage girls. KitKat's performance is great on all three of my devices (2014 Moto X, N5, 2013 N7), and with Xposed it's perfect. It'll be a long time before I update to Lollipop, and it'll likely only be when I buy a new phone that ships with it.
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For some people it is. I for one would much rather have 4.4.4 with Xposed than Lollipop. I think Lollipop sucks, tbqh. It's buggy as hell, and visually it looks like it was designed to appeal to soccer moms and teenage girls. KitKat's performance is great on all three of my devices (2014 Moto X, N5, 2013 N7), and with Xposed it's perfect. It'll be a long time before I update to Lollipop, and it'll likely only be when I buy a new phone that ships with it.
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I thought the same way.
But after a week of using Lolli i didn't even care about Xposed anymore.
Sure, there are times i will get a snapchat pic or vid i wish was automatically saved, but oh well...
And i noticed a HUGE performance jump going to ART.
Apps that would hang on loading in KK, boot up with no issues in ART.
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I thought the same way.
But after a week of using Lolli i didn't even care about Xposed anymore.
Sure, there are times i will get a snapchat pic or vid i wish was automatically saved, but oh well...
And i noticed a HUGE performance jump going to ART.
Apps that would hang on loading in KK, boot up with no issues in ART.
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I have a lollipop ROM as a secondary on my N5 so I've used it quite a bit. I haven't noticed any huge performance jump that is compelling me to switch. Everything is already fast as hell on KitKat, so some apps opening 10 milliseconds faster really isn't anything to write home about.
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I thought the same way.
But after a week of using Lolli i didn't even care about Xposed anymore.
Sure, there are times i will get a snapchat pic or vid i wish was automatically saved, but oh well...
And i noticed a HUGE performance jump going to ART.
Apps that would hang on loading in KK, boot up with no issues in ART.
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I have a lollipop ROM as a secondary on my N5 so I've used it quite a bit. I haven't noticed any huge performance jump that is compelling me to switch. Everything is already fast as hell on KitKat, so some apps opening 10 milliseconds faster really isn't anything to write home about.
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even i can feel some performance improvement on lollipop ( yah it has some minor bugs but which new rom don't ? and they will be fixed.. i'm sure when n5 shipped with KK it also has some minor bugs otherwise they don't need to go 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 )
now it's upon personal like that you want KK or Lollipop.
anyway this discussion in this thread is completely off-topic...answer of OP was given in 2nd post itself so it's not needed to go delvik-ART-Xposed controversy
No improvement on preformance it lags "lrx22c"
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Usually a flagship worth an unlocked boot loader is full of development and such, but this Note 5 seems to have very little activity for such device.
Why is that?
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Well, for me, I'm not seeing much reason to run any custom ROMs and I use Samsung Pay often. Also, there's no AOSP development because AOSP doesn't play well with Exynos.
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Well, for me, I'm not seeing much reason to run any custom ROMs and I use Samsung Pay often. Also, there's no AOSP development because AOSP doesn't play well with Exynos.
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This. It's the fact that it's an Exynos device. We've got plenty of TouchWiz based ROMs, which are totally fine for me, but the general attitude I see outside the Samsung forums is AOSP or GTFO.
I just got my Note 5 this past weekend. I upgrade from Note 4.
Yes I notice not much activities here at all.
Devs are waiting for MM to drop
Also we can flash all of the International Roms and Dr.Ketan's audio fix, so no need to port them.
Jammol said:
Also we can flash all of the International Roms and Dr.Ketan's audio fix, so no need to port them.
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I was actually wondering that, I didn't find anything saying it was possible but was hoping it was since that is what I did with my Note 4. any INT rom is possible? and how are they running?
DiGi91 said:
I was actually wondering that, I didn't find anything saying it was possible but was hoping it was since that is what I did with my Note 4. any INT rom is possible? and how are they running?
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Any international Rom is possible. I have literally flashed all of them and they all run just fine for me.
I have a N920T so hopefully that's also the variant you have?
Flash the kernel for your variant: Arter or Skyhigh or even the Stock Rootable Kernel by Jovy.
Flash Rom and any mods they have.
Flash Audio fix by Dr.Ketan: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2YDky4L5v-4c0x1Z3hZQ3UteFk
That's it!
ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Usually a flagship worth an unlocked boot loader is full of development and such, but this Note 5 seems to have very little activity for such device.
Why is that?
Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
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well I have been buying, rooting and romming Samsung phones for the past four years and with the Note 5 the theme engine handles my theming needs, rooting means you can't use Samsung pay, which I use almost everyday and there are no custom roms because of the xynos processor. I have system wide ad blocking without root and don't want to root only for touchwiz Roms when the stock Samsung software is running so well, surprisingly.
chong67 said:
I just got my Note 5 this past weekend. I upgrade from Note 4.
Yes I notice not much activities here at all.
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Downgraded to lol
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Cleva1 said:
Downgraded to lol
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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Or nah
calvin35 said:
well I have been buying, rooting and romming Samsung phones for the past four years and with the Note 5 the theme engine handles my theming needs, rooting means you can't use Samsung pay, which I use almost everyday and there are no custom roms because of the xynos processor. I have system wide ad blocking without root and don't want to root only for touchwiz Roms when the stock Samsung software is running so well, surprisingly.
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Question how do you have system wide ad blocking? Also any way to boost sound volume with no root. I have searched and haven't really found anything.......anyone can feel free to chime in here.
Dmkarkutt said:
Question how do you have system wide ad blocking? Also any way to boost sound volume with no root. I have searched and haven't really found anything.......anyone can feel free to chime in here.
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I also want to know more about this system-wide ad blocking that doesn't require root.
I rooted my Note5 as soon as I got it, not knowing it would permanently disable my ability to use Samsung Pay. (Yep, I should have researched it, but didn't. Mea culpa.)
But the main reason I root is for AdAway -- if I had the same results without rooting, I'd have at least considered not rooting. Samsung Pay sounds pretty sweet. :\
Jammol said:
Any international Rom is possible. I have literally flashed all of them and they all run just fine for me.
I have a N920T so hopefully that's also the variant you have?
Flash the kernel for your variant: Arter or Skyhigh or even the Stock Rootable Kernel by Jovy.
Flash Rom and any mods they have.
Flash Audio fix by Dr.Ketan: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2YDky4L5v-4c0x1Z3hZQ3UteFk
That's it!
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Sweet! Just like the Note 4.. I'll have to check it out then. I do remember some hiccups with the Note 4 running INT ROMs so I hope I won't run into any of that. Probably going to try out Dr.Ketan.
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Question how do you have system wide ad blocking? Also any way to boost sound volume with no root. I have searched and haven't really found anything.......anyone can feel free to chime in here.
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I don't know anything about boosting the sound volume because I haven't looked or really felt the need. For the ad blocking I use this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/adguard-ad-blocker-doesnt-require-root-t2958895
If you just want ads in the browser blocked it's free. It works really well for me and even though it will show as using a lot of battery that is only due to the way the app works and handles data.
calvin35 said:
I don't know anything about boosting the sound volume because I haven't looked or really felt the need. For the ad blocking I use this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/adguard-ad-blocker-doesnt-require-root-t2958895
If you just want ads in the browser blocked it's free. It works really well for me and even though it will show as using a lot of battery that is only due to the way the app works and handles data.
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Thank u very much for the info
For system-wide ad blocking (I am not rooted) I use Adblock Plus. https://adblockplus.org/android-install
Go to the link at the bottom that says "Download Adblock Plus for Android"
Now what you have to do is make sure that Adblock Plus is never "optimized" and you don't ever kill it because it's running a localhost proxy (if you do, you lose internet until you start the app again.) You go into your APN settings and create a new APN that looks exactly like the one you already have, except that you use a proxy, localhost, on port 2020. Whenever you connect to Wifi, you use a proxy, localhost, 2020. It's not the best solution because it isn't invisible (it's always in your notifications otherwise Android can kill it to save memory) and you have to do the APN/WiFi changes as I just specified, but it's far less intrusive than ads all over the place.
calvin35 said:
well I have been buying, rooting and romming Samsung phones for the past four years and with the Note 5 the theme engine handles my theming needs, rooting means you can't use Samsung pay, which I use almost everyday and there are no custom roms because of the xynos processor. I have system wide ad blocking without root and don't want to root only for touchwiz Roms when the stock Samsung software is running so well, surprisingly.
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Actually, I think one of the reasons there are not as many roms this time around is Samsung also had limited release of the Note 5 - it was originally internationally released in ASIA but not in Europe. I also think many of the major devs who normally are seen on the Flagship devices - didn't come along with the NOTE 5 because of BATTERY, No SD CARD, XYNOS and cost. Those four things kept many of the developers away (IMHO)
its a shame because it is a fabulous device despite those things. I will say that the Devs who did decide to join the Note 5 have done incredible work - there are some great roms out there. Just not as much variety. I also believe AOSP will eventually be done for the Note 5. There are several other examples of XyNOS phones and tablets getting AOSP - it is just a matter of time (and very hard work on the part of those who are working on it)
I'm not one to complain much but yeah I agree the Note 5 has been disappointing development wise i guess due to exynos. I might get the S7 as it's supposed to have snapdragon back which is supposed to be more developer friendly.
kaseykrehbiel said:
For system-wide ad blocking (I am not rooted) I use Adblock Plus. https://adblockplus.org/android-install
Go to the link at the bottom that says "Download Adblock Plus for Android"
Now what you have to do is make sure that Adblock Plus is never "optimized" and you don't ever kill it because it's running a localhost proxy (if you do, you lose internet until you start the app again.) You go into your APN settings and create a new APN that looks exactly like the one you already have, except that you use a proxy, localhost, on port 2020. Whenever you connect to Wifi, you use a proxy, localhost, 2020. It's not the best solution because it isn't invisible (it's always in your notifications otherwise Android can kill it to save memory) and you have to do the APN/WiFi changes as I just specified, but it's far less intrusive than ads all over the place.
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If you don't use a VPN on your device, Adguard is much easier. It makes a loop VPN and filters all traffic.
https://m.adguard.com/en/welcome.html
As for the topic at hand I'm not getting another Exynos device... I've been really upset by the lack of ROMs and Samsung hasn't exactly been great with updates either.
I just hope that the Snapdragon Kryo cores don't pose a developer issue...