Anyone working on Hangouts for S2? - Samsung Gear S2

Only app i really care about, hope someone is working on a port..

if you download android wear onto your smartphone (no need to set up), you will be able to reply to any hangout messages

hboos said:
if you download android wear onto your smartphone (no need to set up), you will be able to reply to any hangout messages
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was meaning for stand alone, not while tethered

snick8467 said:
was meaning for stand alone, not while tethered
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I would also love this... I think the ball is in googles court on this one and I'm very sad about it.. Does hangouts offer the option for client support? If not then we will have to wait for an official release from Google which will probably never happen
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Whenever I download Android Wear, I no longer get notifications for Hangouts at all. Using a Galaxy S6 Edge+

I will take a look at it. Google does not open api for it, so there won't be standalone app. Is it enough if you can send messages to your friends? And no, I'm not talking about replying to a notification. You can send new message when you want to

snick8467 said:
was meaning for stand alone, not while tethered
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With 3G it doesn't really feel like you're tethered. What is a tease though is you know your watch is capable of acquiring all the messages for both hangouts and Whatsapp bc if you hit "View more" it downloads the entire conversation. If only you could cache that and re-open it at a later time...even that would be a huge improvement. If only I had more time to tinker :crying:

tipztv said:
I will take a look at it. Google does not open api for it, so there won't be standalone app. Is it enough if you can send messages to your friends? And no, I'm not talking about replying to a notification. You can send new message when you want to
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With 3G it doesn't really feel like you're tethered. What is a tease though is you know your watch is capable of acquiring all the messages for both hangouts and Whatsapp bc if you hit "View more" it downloads the entire conversation. If only you could cache that and re-open it at a later time...even that would be a huge improvement. If only I had more time to tinker :crying:
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Agreed, it seems like they engineered a solution but didn't think it necessary to provide it as a feature.
Perhaps our resident S2 developer tipztv could use this to hack a solution for standalone hangouts and whatsapp too!

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Seems like whatsapp is serious into getting onto our phones

Those in the whatsapp beta for Android should update your software ASAP, because they just put in push functionality for everyone with a 2.2 phone. Is this the only software so far not from google to actually use the 2.2 push function? (C2DM and the likes do not count)
how is it different to what its doing now?? i shall update soon after i finish charging
JexL said:
how is it different to what its doing now?? i shall update soon after i finish charging
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It doesn't poll like the old version anymore, and after some testing, I am getting my messages a little faster, because there is usually a 10-20 second delay when the app is sleeping, but this time it's like a 2-3 second after my friend sends me the text via whatsapp.
ahh right so there would be better battery life too??
Is the beta app available? Have they mentioned a release date?
Thanks
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Whatsapp is probably one of the most useful apps for someone coming from a blackberry and misses BBMs. The difference is the speed but the main upside is that it's crossplatformed. Also the app is good for people that travel and have an open wifi spot. Free messaging to friends back home is well worth it.
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ahh right so there would be better battery life too??
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Definitely!
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Is the beta app available? Have they mentioned a release date?
Thanks
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Nope, but it should be within the next few months, it's already very stable other than some of the extra stuff like backgrounds, etc.
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Whatsapp is probably one of the most useful apps for someone coming from a blackberry and misses BBMs. The difference is the speed but the main upside is that it's crossplatformed. Also the app is good for people that travel and have an open wifi spot. Free messaging to friends back home is well worth it.
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Yeah, since I have quite a few friends with an iphone and BB, I'm able to send them messages via my data plan.
AppBrain's Fastweb Installer uses C2DM too for installation of applications from your PC browser.
Anything that uses C2DM is immediately interesting, I'll check it out!
Vulpix said:
Those in the whatsapp beta for Android should update your software ASAP, because they just put in push functionality for everyone with a 2.2 phone. Is this the only software so far not from google to actually use the 2.2 push function? (C2DM and the likes do not count)
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I believe Pingchat uses push notifications. Works well on my Desire.
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I believe Pingchat uses push notifications. Works well on my Desire.
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It's not using the same type of 2.2 push unfortunately.
hows it different?
EDIT: also seems like there are sometimes big delays between messages. whatsapp keeps disconnecting in the new version
I had to revert back to an older verison I believe. Newest version yesterday kept logging me off also and messages were stalled until I sent one out then they'd all come in.
Looked on the changelog and they took off the "Push Notifications"
Currently running: v1.0.6138
I'm using whatsapp on 2.1. working pretty well so far. ... thinking of getting 2.2 but no sense UI ROM for hero yet.
can we have a link to the apps apk?
Aww man, they removed push notifications via C2DM and the reason was they need to give google a quota? I have no idea what that means.
http://beta.whatsapp.com/test/7/WhatsApp.html
* google push disabled -- we need quota from google
really, what's the difference/advantage of using C2DM. i dont understand what's going on in the background.
Yepp.... just downloaded the APK from the link provided above... You can download and install it, but when it asks for your display name, you will get a message that says "Unauthorized beta user, DO NOT E-MAIL US", or something like that.
That's too bad because I loved it on my BB to chat with my iPhone friends, you would think that it would be easier and faster to create an app for Android and it would already be out in the market !!
it works!! everyone gets that message just wait till tommorrow and try again and it will work. Heaps of people have had success using this method. dont give up so easily
updated yesterday and they've been approved for the push notification via GOOGLE's c2dm.
Only thing i've noticed is that the app unlike iPhone's version doesn't time out while it's in the background. So it seems like you're always logged in. This could be corrected by a task manager app to kill the app but once you receive a new message it auto logs you on and double check marks the message as read.

[App] RemotifyMyDroid (my 3rd FREE app)

Hello Everyone,
i've finish working on my application RemotifyMyDroid, and uploaded it to the market place toy can download:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.yazan.remotifyMyDroid&feature=more_from_developer
it sends notifications to your PC, when you got event on your mobile,
best case when you are charging your mobile in a room, and setting in another..
however you can use it in different purposes ...
the phone and the PC should be on the same LAN,
in future i may upgrade it to work over the internet ...
it notifies for those events:
1- Incoming Call (shows the caller number to)
2- Outgoing Call (someone using your mobile to call a number)
3- Your mobile is fully charged (in case you were charging it)
4- Someone unplugged the power of the charger.
5- New Incoming SMS.
to download the PC server
http://www.yazandroid.com/
and go to RemotifyMyDroid (1st link) and it contains some screen shots to.
also have a look at my other FREE 2 applications there
your feedback is appreciated
Yazan.
Sounds great, but I think setting this up might be a tad harsh for general use (firewalls etc). I would suggest building an intermediary platform (web service) to communicate to. That way you can have a very easy setup. For instance, you can use the Google login service to identify yourself from the phone and the notification program and that's it then. No IP's or port numbers as most users don't know what that is anyway.
But for the techies, good start.
Cheers
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Sounds great, but I think setting this up might be a tad harsh for general use (firewalls etc). I would suggest building an intermediary platform (web service) to communicate to. That way you can have a very easy setup. For instance, you can use the Google login service to identify yourself from the phone and the notification program and that's it then. No IP's or port numbers as most users don't know what that is anyway.
But for the techies, good start.
Cheers
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good point, and that what i was afraid about in the first place
i am planning to take this to the internet as a next step, i will be doing that soon
thanks bra1nDeaD
stinger1 said:
good point, and that what i was afraid about in the first place
i am planning to take this to the internet as a next step, i will be doing that soon
thanks bra1nDeaD
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No problem
Portal pending. Nice app
I will use this when it's possible to use it via the web. Maybe a Chrome/FireFox/IE plugin would be cool?
Really nice idea!
Another suggestion : an honeycomb client
let us be notified about our phone when it's away and we're using our favorite tablet
I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you may have wasted your time:
http://code.google.com/p/android-notifier/
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I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you may have wasted your time:
[Link]
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What a great find... The integration with Growl will be excellent on my HTPC. Also, this allows easy integration with EventGhost through Scripty.
just installed. works fine.
Any chance on a open source version, i would like to see how you did this. an maybe use some of the code in a Domotica project of mine.
Hey another MightyText. At least I can use this one lol.\
Timmmmmm said:
I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you may have wasted your time:
http://code.google.com/p/android-notifier/
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Have you ever heard of...dare I say it...variation of ideas? Just because there is something similar out there, does not mean it is identical. Please do not spam dev's threads with others work.
he's right though, there is google voice add on for chrome that does this, mighty text, and that last one he mentioned.
Timmmmmm I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you may have wasted your time:
http://code.google.com/p/android-notifier/
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its not a waste of time, and for sure i have learned couple of things while developing this app, its not a waste at all.
otherwise you will see a single app for each purpose ... on pc\mobile ...
one more thing .. why do you think there is Windows , Linux and Mac??
could not other parties just SAVE there time and NOT develop another OS!!!!
Any chance on a open source version, i would like to see how you did this. an maybe use some of the code in a Domotica project of mine.
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for now i am not planning to open source any of my work,
sorry
Really nice idea!
Another suggestion : an honeycomb client
let us be notified about our phone when it's away and we're using our favorite tablet
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this was on the list next
with this to
I will use this when it's possible to use it via the web. Maybe a Chrome/FireFox/IE plugin would be cool?
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still thinking which one will go first,
thanks all
Hey, didn't try it yet but I have some suggestions, in addition to a web service:
reply to sms / transfer calls to PC
low battery event
as an option, deliver every notification from notification bar (alarms, songs played, ebay auctions ending, FB msgs, etc.)
cheers
Mac version would be awesome .
Hey, didn't try it yet but I have some suggestions, in addition to a web service:
reply to sms / transfer calls to PC
low battery event
as an option, deliver every notification from notification bar (alarms, songs played, ebay auctions ending, FB msgs, etc.)
cheers
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hey lastnikita, thx for suggestions,
i will be working on such updates,
but regarding the call forwarding to PC as far as i know you can't do it as the call is protected by the OS. it has limitations...
Mac version would be awesome .
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hey Bomster,
there is a MAC version...
not tested yet, i don't have a MAC, please if you try and send us a feed back, that will be great
cheers
thanks,
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but regarding the call forwarding to PC as far as i know you can't do it as the call is protected by the OS. it has limitations...
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Using bluetooth maybe ? PC as a handset (would have to be paired before)
I understand then distance range would come as a limit for many use cases, but could still be enjoyable instead of standing up to pick up the phone !
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Using bluetooth maybe ? PC as a handset (would have to be paired before)
I understand then distance range would come as a limit for many use cases, but could still be enjoyable instead of standing up to pick up the phone !
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that looks fine
now we have along list to start with lol
cheers

[Q] Iphone group text possible?

Does anyone know if its possible for us android users to respond "to all" when iphone users send us a group text? Or even see who's involved in the group text? I've searched and searched and don't think there is a way so I figured Id ask here in case someone knew of a way.
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trdsnow said:
Does anyone know if its possible for us android users to respond "to all" when iphone users send us a group text? Or even see who's involved in the group text? I've searched and searched and don't think there is a way so I figured Id ask here in case someone knew of a way.
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Whatsapp.. That should work. Dunno. Don't use official texting. Whatsapp should work though.
And tell them to get Android. Make fun of them. Show the beautiful widgets. Then tell them to show you a beautiful weather animation on their homescreen. In they pull down the Android rip off pull down tell them it's weak, full screen. It should be easy, you know. On your little dinky screen.
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Whatsapp.. That should work. Dunno. Don't use official texting. Whatsapp should work though.
And tell them to get Android. Make fun of them. Show the beautiful widgets. Then tell them to show you a beautiful weather animation on their homescreen. In they pull down the Android rip off pull down tell them it's weak, full screen. It should be easy, you know. On your little dinky screen.
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Trust me. I've done literally everything you just listed. I've been an Apple user since the first gen Iphone up until the Iphone 4. Whatapp does work but the Apple user has to download it as well. I'm trying to see if I can connect with their native group text. I guess that's impossible at this point since we cant cross platforms yet. Similar to BBM on blackberries. If there is anyone with any ideas, please share.
Currently we are using Voxer which is pretty neat. However, the iphone user still needs to download it.
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Trust me. I've done literally everything you just listed. I've been an Apple user since the first gen Iphone up until the Iphone 4. Whatapp does work but the Apple user has to download it as well. I'm trying to see if I can connect with their native group text. I guess that's impossible at this point since we cant cross platforms yet. Similar to BBM on blackberries. If there is anyone with any ideas, please share.
Currently we are using Voxer which is pretty neat. However, the iphone user still needs to download it.
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Hm. I make my iphone user friend use a Google talk extention. I like it.. He's going android with his next update.. Apple fanboy! I used to be... Woops...
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I'm looking for the same solution. Does anyone know of an app that allows android phones to see iphone group chats as group chats rather than breaking everything down into individual text messages that way we can do a reply all rather than having to send the same message to everyone that is in the group? Thanks.
There's plenty of apps that do this. 8sms is my favorite.
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There's plenty of apps that do this. 8sms is my favorite.
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Thanks for your help. I've installed the app and it looks nice. I still need to test it out to make sure it works with group text messages with iphones. But I'll update this post once I'm able to confirm that it does or does not work. Thanks
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Thanks for your help. I've installed the app and it looks nice. I still need to test it out to make sure it works with group text messages with iphones. But I'll update this post once I'm able to confirm that it does or does not work. Thanks
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Android 4.2 messaging app does it natively now. And there's also the new Hangouts which allows for group messaging.
Android 2.3.6- 4.0.4 I've used NinjaSMS and can can confirm it works with group messaging. Again, there's also the new Hangouts app.
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Android 4.2 messaging app does it natively now. And there's also the new Hangouts which allows for group messaging.
Android 2.3.6- 4.0.4 I've used NinjaSMS and can can confirm it works with group messaging. Again, there's also the new Hangouts app.
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I'm currently trying NinjaSMS. Hangouts didn't work for my phone. I couldn't send or receive MMS which appears to be a known problem with a few phones. In addition, the 8sms app which was suggest to me also didn't work. It broke up their iphone group text to an indiviual text from each person. Therefore I still had to reply individually to everyone in the group. I'll let you know if NinjaSMS works for me.

[APP][4.4+] Auto-Reply to Whatsapp, Slack, Email & more [BETA]

Hey all - been working on this off and on for a while but I've finally got it in a place where it works to how I envisioned it so I'm super excited to share it with you all!
These days people expect instant replies to their instant messages & it's not always possible to oblige.
Texting & driving is dangerous, your boss probably isn't keen on your messaging at work, you might be in a meeting, you might have left your phone to go workout.. Fortunately, in any given situation, Can't Talk will respond for you.
Let people know you're busy, you're driving, you're in a meeting, you'll get back to them later.. You set the message, you set who & via which apps to respond to & Can't Talk does the rest.
It's "out of office" but not just limited to email. Whatsapp, Slack, SMS, missed calls, Telegram, Hangouts, Allo.. any app that let's you send a quick reply via it's notification - Can't Talk can respond to.
Features of note:
- You can auto reply to sms & missed calls as well as app notifications
- You can specify which apps can be replied to
- You can specific which contacts can be auto-replied to (this includes across apps like Whatsapp etc..)
- You get to specify the message that gets sent.
Features of note to come:
- Multiple profiles - so you can create a "work profile" or a "home profile" or a "driving profile" with specific responses/settings
- Contextual Switching - the ability to automatically turn profiles on & off depending on whether you're driving, in the office, at home etc..
- Contact specific responses
At this stage I'd really love your feedback on the app so far (this is a beta so there may be bugs) & more specifically what more would you want from an app like this?
Any and all feedback/suggestions would be hugely appreciated!
Beta on the Play Store here
Huge update now on the Play Store
Added support for messaging apps such as Whatsapp, Hangouts etc..
Fixed a number of bugs
Added support for contact specific replies
Would love ANY feedback on the app! Happy Friday everyone!!
New update will be on the Play Store shortly, lots of bug fixes & a much tidier UI ??
Nice app but second reply time is 12 min after the first reply to the same person that not good. it should be the frequent reply. or is it work without the internet?
Wendell Hill said:
Nice app but second reply time is 12 min after the first reply to the same person that not good. it should be the frequent reply. or is it work without the internet?
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Thanks for the feedback! Was it a reply to the same message, & which app was it replying too (whatsapp, sms, etc)? There is a setting under Advanced Settings to change the reply frequency, it defaults to 15 minutes meaning it'll auto reply to any NEW messages you receive from the same contact or app after 15 minutes.
If you have a better idea about how reply frequency should work I'm all ears Maybe people want the option to reply to 1 contact 1 time ever, until the app is switched off?
New beta is up! Ton of bug fixes, some layout improvements.. Feedback as always is encourage
Messenger?
Does this (can this) work with Facebook Messenger?
Finally an extremely useful app thank you...
Text field box should read, TAP to edit. Not TO to edit
Interesting application buddy. Love the opening animations.
One thing I found annoying, is that for almost anything I changed, there was no "Save" button. Thus I had to first click "Back" arrow and then a prompt would ask if I want to save or discard. Could have used only a single click if there was a "Save" button.
Also, there needs to be some modification for the secondary text field, e.g. Apps Secondary or Advanced Secondary.
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anyone on the beta will get a promo code when I add the IAP
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How would you know who had joined the beta, though? When I click the "Become a tester" button on the play store, does it send my email to the developer?
after I have enabled Notification Access, it is consuming 310MB RAM in a 3GB RAM Device, is it normal?
Mi Note 3 Running Android 8.
Hi
This looks a very interesting app but I don't seem to be able to download it. There is no Install button on the app page.
Sounds nice, gonna give it a whirl
I joined the beta program through the app in the store instead of the link in the op, is it ok? Since that was a browser redirect and sign in page, so i just took a shortcut.
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Hi
This looks a very interesting app but I don't seem to be able to download it. There is no Install button on the app page.
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Just add it to favorites and take it back. The download button will show up.
RMarques said:
Just add it to favorites and take it back. The download button will show up.
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Wow I wish I had known this trick before
TonyStark1 said:
Does this (can this) work with Facebook Messenger?
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It should work with any apps that support quick reply from their notifications so while I've not tested it with FB messenger, in theory it should work ?
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Text field box should read, TAP to edit. Not TO to edit
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?? gotta love some placeholder text haha thanks for the heads up!
sumotori1 said:
Interesting application buddy. Love the opening animations.
One thing I found annoying, is that for almost anything I changed, there was no "Save" button. Thus I had to first click "Back" arrow and then a prompt would ask if I want to save or discard. Could have used only a single click if there was a "Save" button.
Also, there needs to be some modification for the secondary text field, e.g. Apps Secondary or Advanced Secondary.
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You're totally right - will add a save button in the next release ?
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How would you know who had joined the beta, though? When I click the "Become a tester" button on the play store, does it send my email to the developer?
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That's an excellent point - tbh the app actually left beta yesterday & I'd actually forgot to remove that caption from the OP ?
However since it was mentioned in the Portal post more people have downloaded & I'm guessing that's a big part of the reason so I'll honour that commitment.
Let's say.. anyone who's commented on the thread or liked the OP I'll send a promo code to. Anyone left hanging in 2 weeks (when the trial expires) will hopefully email me & they'll get one too. Unless anyone has a better way to go about it? ?
Goutham Shady said:
after I have enabled Notification Access, it is consuming 310MB RAM in a 3GB RAM Device, is it normal?
Mi Note 3 Running Android 8.
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Tbh mate I've not looked at RAM usage at all seeing as the app does nothing in the background whatsoever - until you receive a notification/SMS etc.. although judging by my other app ReadItToMe that sounds about right.
I'll do some testing but unless it's causing you an issue I wouldn't worry
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That's an excellent point - tbh the app actually left beta yesterday & I'd actually forgot to remove that caption from the OP ?
However since it was mentioned in the Portal post more people have downloaded & I'm guessing that's a big part of the reason so I'll honour that commitment.
Let's say.. anyone who's commented on the thread or liked the OP I'll send a promo code to. Anyone left hanging in 2 weeks (when the trial expires) will hopefully email me & they'll get one too. Unless anyone has a better way to go about it? ?
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That's very noble of you. :good: Can you please PM me one of those promo codes?
very useful app. Please disable sms auto reply to own number.
Working great for me with Whatsapp.
Also works while Whatsapp Web is active
Tasker integration would be a big plus

P.S.A. Samsung Messaging could be sending the contents of your Gallery to ALL your Co

https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...e-sending-your-photos-without-you-knowing-it/
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Just disabled storage permission. But why Samsung!!! This is crazy.
Virgo_Guy said:
Just disabled storage permission. But why Samsung!!! This is crazy.
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It MAY be connected to the complaints that Samsung was receiving after Samsung Messaging no longer allowed for contact specific ringtones....So they fixed that & broke something far more important But - Yeah kind of a major mistake.... ?
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Virgo_Guy said:
Just disabled storage permission. But why Samsung!!! This is crazy.
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I can't read my SMSes if I disable storage permission.
barankas said:
I can't read my SMSes if I disable storage permission.
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True... can use alternatives from the playstore till a fix comes up.
barankas said:
I can't read my SMSes if I disable storage permission.
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Use a different Texting app... It's kinda "Duh"... I'm using Evolve SMS/MMS and Android Messaging (for when I want to send RCS Texts) ?
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True... can use alternatives from the playstore till a fix comes up.
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Exactly - Would have thought that it's kind of obvious lol ?
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Why not just uninstall the update? I never update anything right away ever since Microsoft introduced the "let the users be the testers" philosophy.
Don't get mad at me for saying MS, but that is who I remember. Since then a lot of companies have gotten lazy in their testing departments, and saved tons-o' money to boot!
I can't test this as I don't/won't have the upgrade/problem, just a recommendation (if it's even possible to uninstall the update).
If it is not possible to uninstall the latest update, then that to me is also a major bug!
As a for instance, I installed S9+ Samsung "Themes" and found out that you have to buy everything! What a crock!! What's worse is that I am unable to uninstall Themes - - and THIS is wrong.
Another idea, other than taking away permissions is to use a photo locking/vault app.
Is Disabling it in adhell 3 enough ?
Sms aren't used here anyways so I don't miss it at all.
Are there any downsides of it ? I still have Android messenger from Google installed
maybe due to emergency feature auto sending out, but not triggering by users, properly a bug (or intended)
I just use google messaging app, safer. Still leave the app on for emergency feature with 3 clicks on power button though

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