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Hello!
I just flashed Franco Kernel on my Nexus 5 with stock ROM, but I can only see Interactive and Performance governor when using SetCPU. Does anyone know why? Does this kernel even have support for this governors? If that is the case, please recommend another (stable) kernel. Thanks!
Hi,
Yes, Franco kernel uses only Interactive and Performance governors. It's "hardcoded" in the kernel so you can't add other governors unless you recompile it with your own stuff (in short). It's a choice made by Franciscofranco, that's all. So it's normal that some apps didn't show another governor.
I won't recommend you another kernel, check the two dev forums for another kernels, read the OP's of each kernel thread and try by yourself to find another kernel that suits your needs in term of governors (in short all the other kernels -no CAF or CM kernels-, not the ones based on Franko kernel obviously).
Since you used Franco kernel you are using an AOSP/stock rom so check from AOSP kernels.
Franco kernel only includes the Interactive and Performance governors. There is nothing wrong.
If you are not happy, try another one. Theres no point of someone recommending you a kernel since all phones are different and will thus react differently to kernels. In addition, while one kernel may be good for someone else, it may not serve your needs. This is why asking for the best rom/kernel is against the rules.
I'm running Franco Kernel on the interactive governor and have no issue
Okay, I understand. Thanks anyways!
Hello community,
I am a rookie in the subject of kernels/roms and I would love to have some precious help from any1 that knows even the smallest of information. I recently installed CM kernel and CM nightly 0422. The thing is, I read in many forums (in here as well) that there is a kernel that can boost battery life to its max, Franco Kernel. But I also read that it is somehow incompatible with CM 10+ and causes bootloop if you install it with CM already in phone. What I can't understand is why can't I just simply replace CM kernel (like stock kernel was replaced by CM kernel) by Franco Kernel? What is the fact that I am missing?
ALL (and I mean ALL) help will be highly appreaciated, thanks for your time
T.
f33d_me_plz said:
Hello community,
I am a rookie in the subject of kernels/roms and I would love to have some precious help from any1 that knows even the smallest of information. I recently installed CM kernel and CM nightly 0422. The thing is, I read in many forums (in here as well) that there is a kernel that can boost battery life to its max, Franco Kernel. But I also read that it is somehow incompatible with CM 10+ and causes bootloop if you install it with CM already in phone. What I can't understand is why can't I just simply replace CM kernel (like stock kernel was replaced by CM kernel) by Franco Kernel? What is the fact that I am missing?
ALL (and I mean ALL) help will be highly appreaciated, thanks for your time
T.
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first off.. there is no magic pill to give your phone for battery life. battery life mostly depends on your personal usage, your personal setup, your apps used, and most importantly the quality of your phone/data connection. everything else is minor for battery life, including kernels.
cm uses CAF as its base now, they went away from aosp(like most kernels here). so everything that is aosp based is not compatible with cm anymore. franco kernel is aosp based(most kernels are). there are a few kernels that are CAF based built just for cm and cm based roms.
simms22 said:
first off.. there is no magic pill to give your phone for battery life. battery life mostly depends on your personal usage, your personal setup, your apps used, and most importantly the quality of your phone/data connection. everything else is minor for battery life, including kernels.
cm uses CAF as its base now, they went away from aosp(like most kernels here). so everything that is aosp based is not compatible with cm anymore. franco kernel is aosp based(most kernels are). there are a few kernels that are CAF based built just for cm and cm based roms.
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Thanks for your time and your answer
First of all, I know for myself that there is no magic pill about battery life, I just read in too many threads that FK added a good portion of battery life (with same use of phone like when it had CM) ! Moreover it allows you to overclock (my) Nexus5 beyond 2.2GHz, something that CM doesn't allow you too (I know that overclocking kills battery, I just want to test something). What I don't understand is how can FK mess up with CM when both are different kernels and by installing FK over CM means that FK replaces CM. There is no CM in the end, only FK. Or not...? What have I understood wrong?
Thanks again
f33d_me_plz said:
Thanks for your time and your answer
First of all, I know for myself that there is no magic pill about battery life, I just read in too many threads that FK added a good portion of battery life (with same use of phone like when it had CM) ! Moreover it allows you to overclock (my) Nexus5 beyond 2.2GHz, something that CM doesn't allow you too (I know that overclocking kills battery, I just want to test something). What I don't understand is how can FK mess up with CM when both are different kernels and by installing FK over CM means that FK replaces CM. There is no CM in the end, only FK. Or not...? What have I understood wrong?
Thanks again
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yes, franco would replace cm kernel if all worked right. but what you are doing is replacing cm kernel with franco kernel, but cm rom stays on your phone. franco kernel is incompatible with cm rom. since franco is aosp and cm is caf, your phone would never boot up all the way.
simms22 said:
yes, franco would replace cm kernel if all worked right. but what you are doing is replacing cm kernel with franco kernel, but cm rom stays on your phone. franco kernel is incompatible with cm rom. since franco is aosp and cm is caf, your phone would never boot up all the way.
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So, if I am getting your point right, since one is aosp and the other is caf THAT is the reason why CM doesn't uninstall and will exist together with franco? Is there a way to permanently delete CM in order to install franco? Maybe to go back to stock kernel then install FK?
f33d_me_plz said:
So, if I am getting your point right, since one is aosp and the other is caf THAT is the reason why CM doesn't uninstall and will exist together with franco? Is there a way to permanently delete CM in order to install franco? Maybe to go back to stock kernel then install FK?
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its not about the kernel, its about the rom. they are different things. when you flash a kernel(any), it replaces the kernel thats on your phone(kernels come with roms, cm kernel with cm rom). cm rom includes cm kernel, both are built from caf source. franco kernel is aosp, it is not compatible with cm rom. it has nothing to do with cm kernel, it replaces cm kernel when flashed. but you will never boot up your phone because it isnt compatible with cm rom.
simms22 said:
its not about the kernel, its about the rom. they are different things. when you flash a kernel(any), it replaces the kernel thats on your phone(kernels come with roms, cm kernel with cm rom). cm rom includes cm kernel, both are built from caf source. franco kernel is aosp, it is not compatible with cm rom. it has nothing to do with cm kernel, it replaces cm kernel when flashed. but you will never boot up your phone because it isnt compatible with cm rom.
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ok, finally I got it, thanks to you Last question... is there a way to get FK now or am I just locked to caf due to CM "for life"? which way (if there is any at all) in your opinion is the best way to go from CM to FK? maybe go back to stock rom/kernel then flash FK? Will this work?
f33d_me_plz said:
ok, finally I got it, thanks to you Last question... is there a way to get FK now or am I just locked to caf due to CM "for life"? which way (if there is any at all) in your opinion is the best way to go from CM to FK? maybe go back to stock rom/kernel then flash FK? Will this work?
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no, they arent compatible at all. you can not use franco kernel with any cm based roms. you can change roms and use franco kernel with it, any aosp rom or even the stock rom. but cm isnt compatible at all with franko kernel.
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no, they arent compatible at all. you can not use franco kernel with any cm based roms. you can change roms and use franco kernel with it, any aosp rom or even the stock rom. but cm isnt compatible at all with franko kernel.
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Thanks man !!
f33d_me_plz said:
Thanks man !!
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If your looking for a good CAF kernel to run with a PAC or CM based ROM. I'd recommend the ElementalX CAF kernel. It's very stable, rich features, great performance and great battery life. Make sure to read the OP for directions and if you decide to try it out download the ElementalX R38 version with the aromma installer (not the express version) As with running any new kernel run it for a few days minimum to allow for it by on settle in.
There is another option for you to explore too - http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/cm11-users-heres-how-aospnon-caf-t2626961
This allows you to run a script that will basically De-CAF your rom and allow you to run a AOSP kernel on CM11ROMs.. Be sure to read the OP. It works with many CM11 and CM based ROMs, but not on all the newest versions. Definitely worth checking out.
xdrc45 said:
If your looking for a good CAF kernel to run with a PAC or CM based ROM. I'd recommend the ElementalX CAF kernel. It's very stable, rich features, great performance and great battery life. Make sure to read the OP for directions and if you decide to try it out download the ElementalX R38 version with the aromma installer (not the express version) As with running any new kernel run it for a few days minimum to allow for it by on settle in.
There is another option for you to explore too - http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/cm11-users-heres-how-aospnon-caf-t2626961
This allows you to run a script that will basically De-CAF your rom and allow you to run a AOSP kernel on CM11ROMs.. Be sure to read the OP. It works with many CM11 and CM based ROMs, but not on all the newest versions. Definitely worth checking out.
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Thanks for your interest and time! I will sure check both your ROM and the De-CAF script soon and post my opinion/experience ! For newbies like me that are reading this post, here is a quite enbrightening thread about CAF and qualcomm processors (although it's Reddit, it's quite explanatory).
Peace!
T.
f33d_me_plz said:
Thanks for your interest and time! I will sure check both your ROM and the De-CAF script soon and post my opinion/experience ! For newbies like me that are reading this post, here is a quite enbrightening thread about CAF and qualcomm processors (although it's Reddit, it's quite explanatory).
Peace!
T.
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Sorry, I forgot to paste the link cheers ! http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1rt9md/eli5_what_is_caf_why_is_cm_going_caf_affects_the/
I was asked to bring an AOSP kernel to you guys for the D850.
I do not have this phone, so I may not be able to answer all your question. It'll be up to you and the Team.
This is for AOSP
So for your flashing pleasure, may I present to you...
Mutiny Kernel
Disclaimer: You flash this at your own risk!!! We are not responsible if anything happens to your phone!!
What's in it?
20150628
intellimm removed
intellidemand added
TCP congestion options - Westwood, Reno, Vegas and others
intelliplug -Faux
Faux Sound
simple GPU algorithm -Faux
exfat
f2f2 - untested
20150625
Overclock for CPU and GPU
Undervolting
Govs - intellimm, smartmax, smartassV2, lagfree, dancedance, wheatley, adaptive lionheart
Shedulers - fifo, sio, vr, zen, tripndroid, fiops
Intelli-KSM
See post #2 for install info.
General and install info:
This is for the G3 D850 only
Flash in recovery
I recommend using Trickster or Faux or Kernel Aduitor to mess with the kernel settings. Faux and Kernel Aduitor will allow more settings.
Source
Thanks to tectas for getting this started!!
Downloads:
Mutiny-Kernel-AOSP-850-V1.1
Mutiny-Kernel-AOSP-D850-20150625
Thanks to Team Mutiny for testing this out!
XDA:DevDB Information
Mutiny Kernel, Kernel for the AT&T LG G3
Contributors
engine95, Skiman10, TacoTuco, TekGadgt, Chono631
Source Code: https://github.com/engine95/G3-aosp
Kernel Special Features:
Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: 1.0
Stable Release Date: 2015-06-25
Created 2015-06-25
Last Updated 2015-06-25
Just some infoAs of V1.1, there is a new install method. If it doesn't work on install, you will need the original kernel from the Rom you are running. If you are just updating, then we should be fine.
One Reserved for me
Reserved
Nice thanks
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Sorry guys. Had an update ready to go, and life kicked in.
I'll hopefully get this updated in the next few days.
V1.1 in the OP
A little more to play with now.
Edit: I'm trying a different updater-script I found. If it works, it should make it compatible with more ROMs.
Big thanks to whoever came up with it!
I can confirm that it's running beautifully on Cyanide L - no issues at all so far.
Being an amateur, I'm not entirely sure what all the different governors and schedulers can offer. I've played around a but, but if anyone has a description of them that would be great.
Is the DT2W feature a function of the kernel or ROM? I ask, in part, because I see it discussed often in ROM threads, but rarely in kernel threads. And the few times I've seen the issue raised in kernel forums, it's never addressed. I assume that's because it's a dumb question in the context of replacing the kernel. However, I seem to lose the DT2W feature with every kernel I've been able to successfully install, which leads me to suspect it is a function of the kernel.
To be clear, this is not a complaint. I'm just trying to determine if I'm doing something wrong or if this is an inevitable consequence of replacing the stock kernel.
I just installed Mutiny-Kernel-AOSP-850-V1.1 on CM12.1 and it looks like I have oversharpening
moordi said:
Is the DT2W feature a function of the kernel or ROM? I ask, in part, because I see it discussed often in ROM threads, but rarely in kernel threads. And the few times I've seen the issue raised in kernel forums, it's never addressed. I assume that's because it's a dumb question in the context of replacing the kernel. However, I seem to lose the DT2W feature with every kernel I've been able to successfully install, which leads me to suspect it is a function of the kernel.
To be clear, this is not a complaint. I'm just trying to determine if I'm doing something wrong or if this is an inevitable consequence of replacing the stock kernel.
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I think, is built into a kernel. But not this one.
The other kernels that do say they have it, I think you need to activate it in terminal. They have it posted in their threads.
Feche said:
I just installed Mutiny-Kernel-AOSP-850-V1.1 on CM12.1 and it looks like I have oversharpening
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It should be built in. But if you don't like it, flash skins script to set it to your liking.
How's the battery life guys?
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engine95 said:
Just some infoAs of V1.1, there is a new install method. If it doesn't work on install, you will need the original kernel from the Rom you are running. If you are just updating, then we should be fine.
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So what is the install method? The OP says "See post #2 for install info. "
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So what is the install method? The OP says "See post #2 for install info. "
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It's using the ramdisk from the rom you are coming from. That should hopefully solve the ramdisk issues.
@engine95:
Hello, I am interested in doing some kernel programming for the LG D850. I just got the phone recently and want to add a few things I'd like to use this kernel and install script/ramdisk as a base. Kindly requesting your permission. Also, what version of the kernel source was this based on? I requested release of 21q or newer from LG today, hopefully they post it soon. Thanks for your consideration.
Da_G said:
@engine95:
Hello, I am interested in doing some kernel programming for the LG D850. I just got the phone recently and want to add a few things I'd like to use this kernel and install script/ramdisk as a base. Kindly requesting your permission. Also, what version of the kernel source was this based on? I requested release of 21q or newer from LG today, hopefully they post it soon. Thanks for your consideration.
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Yup. That's just fine. If i remember right, it's 20c.
I've been sidetracked doing other things lately. Thanks for asking.
Stock kernel is very bad on battery & the phone is over heating a lot.
rajarshi10 said:
Stock kernel is very bad on battery & the phone is over heating a lot.
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Franco
AK
Boeffla
Any of the above
I suggest Franco
There's no such thing as the best kernel. The best kernel is the one that you decide suits you and your setup after testing them yourself.
when i was using lollipop i always went with ak kernel but since ak kernel stopped supporting oneplus one when marshmallow roms began to come i became a bit confused as to which kernel i should use.
so i did a bit of searching with kernels that existed. and the kernels i found that i could use was
1. Sultan
2. Tyr Kernel
3. Andy Kernel
4. Radioactive Kernel
so i was wondering what kernel is the best alternative to ak kernel and if so does that kernel have any problems which makes so i should avoid it?
p.s im open to discussions and even having an idea of what i should do will probly help more then it hurts
calionte said:
when i was using lollipop i always went with ak kernel but since ak kernel stopped supporting oneplus one when marshmallow roms began to come i became a bit confused as to which kernel i should use.
so i did a bit of searching with kernels that existed. and the kernels i found that i could use was
1. Sultan
2. Tyr Kernel
3. Andy Kernel
4. Radioactive Kernel
so i was wondering what kernel is the best alternative to ak kernel and if so does that kernel have any problems which makes so i should avoid it?
p.s im open to discussions and even having an idea of what i should do will probly help more then it hurts
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It's pretty simple actually CAF kernels usually stated in the title of the kernel thread work on CAF ROMs e.g. Sultan, and any ROM that states CAF in its title works with these kernels.
CM kernel such as Lightning, Boeffla and Andy all state specifically CM12/13 in the thread title and those work with stock CM and ROMs derived from CM source and kernel trees.
Finally Omni based kernels only one works properly (Donkey Kernel) also states Omni in the thread title.
The common denominator is that they all clearly state in the thread title what they are for so there's nothing to discuss on which ones to be used for which ROM. In regards to quality that's a bit trickier as we all like different things in a kernel and personally I'm a big fan of Boeffla when I'm on CM13 cause it works great and the app is very intuitive. I've also tried Andy kernel and its got a good mix of features. I'm on Omni 5.1.1 nightlies so I'm on the stock kernel but when I move back to Marshmallow I can update on kernels
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Renosh said:
It's pretty simple actually CAF kernels usually stated in the title of the kernel thread work on CAF ROMs e.g. Sultan, and any ROM that states CAF in its title works with these kernels.
CM kernel such as Lightning, Boeffla and Andy all state specifically CM12/13 in the thread title and those work with stock CM and ROMs derived from CM source and kernel trees.
Finally Omni based kernels only one works properly (Donkey Kernel) also states Omni in the thread title.
The common denominator is that they all clearly state in the thread title what they are for so there's nothing to discuss on which ones to be used for which ROM. In regards to quality that's a bit trickier as we all like different things in a kernel and personally I'm a big fan of Boeffla when I'm on CM13 cause it works great and the app is very intuitive. I've also tried Andy kernel and its got a good mix of features. I'm on Omni 5.1.1 nightlies so I'm on the stock kernel but when I move back to Marshmallow I can update on kernels
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which kernels works with which rom i already knew but i still respect the answer i got. well the main concern i had was about the quality of the roms and which roms is good for what.
It depends on what you want. For example some devs here around merge a bunch of patches to improve sth. Sometimes i dont know what they are doing. I also started with that but soon i have learned less is more. Than there are kernels with gazillion oft features to choose. Thousond hotplugs and governors etc. Than there are small and simple kernels without such experimental features close to stock. I for example dont want to tune 5 days to improve me results i like it simple. So you have 3 or more different types to choose.
1. experimental maybe unstable kernels with lots of patches
2. kernels with lots of features
3. small and simple and more stable kernel close to stock
There is no best or better kernel. Choose the one you like best.
Its your choice.
You also missed the CAF lightning Kernel built off of AK's caf kernel. It's the best kernel for CAF right now IMO. It's basically all of AK kernel's great features just updated to support CAF marshmallow and bug fixes/ latest commits. Works with synapse and all of the original AK CAF kernel profiles.