What is the return policy? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5

I'm rooted, Knox tripped...what can I do if I want to return to stock and return the device? Isn't there a Knox counter reset?

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stevew84 said:
I'm rooted, Knox tripped...what can I do if I want to return to stock and return the device? Isn't there a Knox counter reset?
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If it's a tmo store then they won't check and I wouldn't worry about it. Just make sure you are stock unrooted.

T-Mobile checks for three things at the store: water damage ( which in a sealed phone all they really do is take a quick look at the charge port), a crack free screen and that the phone powers up and the screen turns on.
That's it

I'll be returning to the store today for a couple of different reasons; the first being that my wife doesn't want the device, still happy with her Galaxy S5 for some reason.
But the more important reason is that when I checked my bill today, I noticed that the device was "leased" for 18 months at 10$/month with an option to purchase at $177 (after the 18 months). All the while I already put down 380$.
Turns out they signed me up for the Jump OnDemand program for some strange reason, and the only way for me to change to the traditional 24 month installment plan would be to void out this current transaction. Safe to say I'm not willing to pay anywhere close to the above amount, so good riddance.

Dang that's a little harsh
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stevew84 said:
I'll be returning to the store today for a couple of different reasons; the first being that my wife doesn't want the device, still happy with her Galaxy S5 for some reason.
But the more important reason is that when I checked my bill today, I noticed that the device was "leased" for 18 months at 10$/month with an option to purchase at $177 (after the 18 months). All the while I already put down 380$.
Turns out they signed me up for the Jump OnDemand program for some strange reason, and the only way for me to change to the traditional 24 month installment plan would be to void out this current transaction. Safe to say I'm not willing to pay anywhere close to the above amount, so good riddance.
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That totals to $699 + tax which is the going price (other than black Friday deals). How much did you think you were going to pay?
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New Verizon policy on replacing 4G devices?

So on Saturday i called Verizon to complain about my proximity sensor not working... i couldn't take hanging up on my friends anymore, and I did try blowing it out with compressed air... No dice.
We went through the normal troubleshooting routine. "Did you try pulling the battery?" "Lets try a Factory Reset" "Call #237 and try to trip the sensor" "Have you tried turning it off and back on again?" with exception to the last one... IT Crowd anyone? Well once the rep was satisfied that I wasn't BS'ing him, we started the replacement process. I gave my address and the whole normal routine, i was placed on hold for a few minutes as the "order wouldn't go through" or something....
At that point I was told that a new policy had been put into effect with replacing 4G devices.... Verizon was going to have to send me a "Recovery Box" where I had to send back my Thunderbolt, and they would send me the replacement within 3 to 5 days. WTF! I explained that this was ridiculous and such, and kindly asked to speak to a supervisor who told me the same thing.
Today, i received the "Recovery Box", and will be sending my Thunderbolt back. What interested me was this paragraph that was in the "RETURN INSTRUCTIONS FOR YOUR 4G LTE DEVICE" pamphlet: (I will gladly scan and post if there's interest...)
"NOTE: For problems covered under the manufacturer's warranty, you will receive a replacement device within 3-5 business days after shipping your defective device. Your replacement device may be reconditioned.
For problems not covered under the manufacturer's warranty, your defective device may be returned to you in the same condition."
I'm wondering if after all of the issues with rebooting phones simply being a software upgrade, if Verizon is doing this to prevent any more of their CPO phones going out.... and if those reboot phones will just be updated and sent back to customers... Anyway, that was my story. Anyone else have this issue.... or was a lot of smoke just blown up you know where?
Never seen that before mine was just sent in like a few days back with no problems
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It's probably so they can avoid replacing phones for things like water damage or dropped phones (i.e. obvious user inflicted problems).
I believe they are trying to force us to use the insurance if we have it and screw us if we dont. I have a TB, but just had more or less the same thing happen with my sons Casio phone. The Casio needs a battery but verizon doesnt have them and can not find one for it. Was sent the like new referb #3 and told to put old battery in #3 then file insurance claim because of battery. Doesnt this sound a wee bit like fraud. Still has manufacture warranty on it. My thought is that we still have the manufactures warranty on our TBs maybe we should try contacting HTC for that warranty,
as verizon doesnt seem to want to stand behind the products they sell any more. Or pay the $99. 00 deposit and loose our TBs. I am very unhappy with verizons customer service and I believe that like Sprint was 3 years ago we will get told to go screw ourselves live with your junk phone, shut up and pay your bill any way. Thats why I left Sprint after 8 years. Verizon is #1 now and will forget about us customers that got them there. I feel bad things coming in the near future
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I had to get mine replaced and they sent me one overnight with no issues. I had to pay 12.99 for the overnight shipping instead of waiting for snail mail to bring me a new phone. I had no issues with anyone on the phone. This was last week btw. Sounds like either have had a couple replaced and they want to check it first or you got some person being a prick on the phone.
Get bestbuy insurance. They will replace it in the store. Mine had a speaker problem and they took about 15 minutes to review it and showed geek squad while I walked around the store. 15 minutes later I hear my name is needed in mobile. The said ok we do see there is a technical malfunction and you will get a replacement.
Sounds like user error to me...
SOUNDS LIKE RULE CHANGE 101.
Is the recovery box for t.e.c. cause the reason its purchased is to always have a phone shipped next day if under 12pm.
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I had mine replaced last week with no problems, and again on Monday (the 2nd replacement) which I should have on my doorstep when I get home. Last week they sent it ground for free and I would've had to pay $12 for overnight, yesterday they did overnight for free.
Edit: the first time I called they said I had to go into a store to have them check it out, I was rooted and running BAMF. I put it back to stock to take it into the store and had no problems from then on.
Were you rooted/running a different Rom? That may be why they told you that.
It's probably so they can avoid replacing phones for things like water damage or dropped phones (i.e. obvious user inflicted problems).
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Well then they would charge the customer $500+... isn't that a 'win' for them?
Get bestbuy insurance. They will replace it in the store. Mine had a speaker problem and they took about 15 minutes to review it and showed geek squad while I walked around the store. 15 minutes later I hear my name is needed in mobile. The said ok we do see there is a technical malfunction and you will get a replacement.
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I had nothing but trouble with their "Black Tie" insurance a couple years ago...
Is the recovery box for t.e.c. cause the reason its purchased is to always have a phone shipped next day if under 12pm.
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Yeah its TEC, if you mean i'm sending it back to VZW. *confused*
eraursls1984 said:
Were you rooted/running a different Rom? That may be why they told you that.
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Before my call to Verizon, yes I was rooted.... but I unrooted, made sure the problem was still there, and then called in to troubleshoot with Tech Support
Topher227 said:
Before my call to Verizon, yes I was rooted.... but I unrooted, made sure the problem was still there, and then called in to troubleshoot with Tech Support
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I think he meant did you tell them you were rooted. I mean that should be obvious not to, but you never know
No, i didn't tell them i was Rooted....
"Whats Rooting?"
would have been my response, if asked by VZW tech support....
Hmm this is a first for t.e.c. diag hard reset prob still there reman sent out.
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I went to the store last night and had them confirm the problem I was having. They put me on the phone with the rep and after paying the overnight fee had my replacement at 12:30 today, just have to send the old one in.
Sounds like u got the "special treatment".
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I'm just hoping that their system was down and the rep was too lazy too fix the problem.... and just made me jump through some additional hoops....
I really hope this isn't a new policy.
rickyrick3513 said:
Get bestbuy insurance. They will replace it in the store. Mine had a speaker problem and they took about 15 minutes to review it and showed geek squad while I walked around the store. 15 minutes later I hear my name is needed in mobile. The said ok we do see there is a technical malfunction and you will get a replacement.
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Best Buy does have the best insurance. I will never buy a phone from Verizon or their crappy insurance. I seriously don't know how they can legally get away with calling their insurance "insurance" I have had multiple phones and two PS3's replaced by buying their "Black Tie" insurance. It is always a smooth transaction if something goes wrong with anything covered.
Had two replacements both with overnight shipping free.

[REF] At&t Refurb Policy and Customer Satisfaction (Things You Should Know)

There's some things you should know about the Refurb policy and other Info you should know for At&t customers.
Here's some things you should know: Especially those out of warranty and who have a Refurb. Refurbs infact do come with a warranty regardless of your original warranty.
1. You must be on a refurbished phone from At&t (Samsung refurbs from Samsung do not include here Only At&t)
2. You are given a 90 day Warranty on every refurb that is sent to you.
3. Never forget to send them back your old phone. I prefer cleaning the phone your sending back with a soft cloth so it looks clean and new. You should always send it out same day your new refurb arrives.
4. Mark your calenders if you need to so you won't forget your time period of receiving a new refurb.
5. Keep this in mind! If you just got a refurb and it's causing some unknown issue, Return it! When they file you up for another Infuse you need to explain your issue and you need to KEEP! original papers they sent you when the refurb came which has important info on it just incase they lost that info on their computers as proof of having the refurb within the 90 day warranty.
Keep this in mind! You get a 90 day warranty on every refurb they send. For those who don't know what a refurb is, Refurbished phones are phones that other ppl have used, gotten beaten up, smashed, broken, whatever the case might be :silly:, I exaggerated just a little. They get fixed by the company and are reused by customers like us, Their is no getting a brand new phone. So if you just got a refurb within 90 days and are having issues. Don't hesitate to call At&t up to explain the issue so they can get you another refurb, which will hopefully work better than the last refurb.
I'm currently going onto my 4th Infuse due to this Refurb warranty they have.
My Issues as we speak:
1st Infuse (New out of Box when I bought it) Had a messed up touchscreen
2nd Infuse: Constant wifi drops, bad signal, Probably a hardware failure
3rd Infuse: Speaker Buzz while taking photos/videos
4th Infuse: We'll have to wait and see
+10 - good to know :good:
FYI NEVER call at&t to have your device replaced! New or refurbished. Hop over to the official Facebook Page and post on their wall the issue you are having (you don't even have to be gruff with your post). The Social Media team WILL reply shortly asking for you to email them. Explain the issue in detail and when they start asking what you wanna do, ask about a replacement phone (new if possible). They were very happy to ship me out a new infuse (not a refurb) when I was having issues, and when that one screwed up, they gave me a skyrocket at no extra charge, and then that one screwed up, they replaced THAT ONE as well.
They can also get you expired pricing deals as well. However it takes a little convincing.
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kirbee213 said:
FYI NEVER call at&t to have your device replaced! New or refurbished. Hop over to the official Facebook Page and post on their wall the issue you are having (you don't even have to be gruff with your post). The Social Media team WILL reply shortly asking for you to email them. Explain the issue in detail and when they start asking what you wanna do, ask about a replacement phone (new if possible). They were very happy to ship me out a new infuse (not a refurb) when I was having issues, and when that one screwed up, they gave me a skyrocket at no extra charge, and then that one screwed up, they replaced THAT ONE as well.
They can also get you expired pricing deals as well. However it takes a little convincing.
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How I see it is I've tried all the convincing told them I was pissed off going onto my 4th phone, constantly *****ed about everything and they wanted to charge me $199 for a Galaxy S2. They said it was impossible to get a different model for all the *****ing I've done talking to several reps even talking to a supervisor and a manager didn't help. I was told it had to be the same make and model. It was either another Infuse for the cost of $0 or spend $199 just for a different make and model.
Axiomkid said:
How I see it is I've tried all the convincing told them I was pissed off going onto my 4th phone, constantly *****ed about everything and they wanted to charge me $199 for a Galaxy S2. They said it was impossible to get a different model for all the *****ing I've done talking to several reps even talking to a supervisor and a manager didn't help. I was told it had to be the same make and model. It was either another Infuse for the cost of $0 or spend $199 just for a different make and model.
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I had signal issues when we had the KL2 leak back in december or January so i called att and *****ed at least twice a week for a month. They would not do anything except send me a refurb. They ended up letting me upgrade 5 months early but i still had to pay for the phone. I got a Atrix 2 and keep my infuse as a back up.
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Axiomkid said:
How I see it is I've tried all the convincing told them I was pissed off going onto my 4th phone, constantly *****ed about everything and they wanted to charge me $199 for a Galaxy S2. They said it was impossible to get a different model for all the *****ing I've done talking to several reps even talking to a supervisor and a manager didn't help. I was told it had to be the same make and model. It was either another Infuse for the cost of $0 or spend $199 just for a different make and model.
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Slide over to the Facebook Page. I am willing to bet you will get a new phone. I did. TWICE. A new infuse and then a new skyrocket. That skyrockets camera had a hardware failure, so they sent me a new (not refurb) phone. It happen to have been the sgs2 and not a skyrocket, so he had me take it to a local store and exchange it. I'm tellin ya, social media MANAGERS have some serious clout. They can hook up all most anything.
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Anyone Get the Verizon Insurance?

I typically never get insurance, but since I got this phone using my brother's upgrade and will not be able to upgrade again without someone losing unlimited data, I would like this phone to last. I've heard mixed things on the Verizon insurance- some love it and some don't see the need. Also, for those of you that have the insurance, do you have the total equipment coverage? This extends the one year warranty to the life of the phone. I wouldn't get this typically, but coming from a Thunderbolt, I experienced a drastic deterioration of my phone and again, I need the GS3 to last longer.
One more thing, is it easy going back to stock? I am currently rooted and am running CleanROM. I also backed up my IMEI, for what its worth. Can VZW see that I rooted and flashed a ROM, even if I restore it back to stock? I don't want to run into any problems putting a claim in. Thanks!!
npro1464 said:
I typically never get insurance, but since I got this phone using my brother's upgrade and will not be able to upgrade again without someone losing unlimited data, I would like this phone to last. I've heard mixed things on the Verizon insurance- some love it and some don't see the need. Also, for those of you that have the insurance, do you have the total equipment coverage? This extends the one year warranty to the life of the phone. I wouldn't get this typically, but coming from a Thunderbolt, I experienced a drastic deterioration of my phone and again, I need the GS3 to last longer.
One more thing, is it easy going back to stock? I am currently rooted and am running CleanROM. I also backed up my IMEI, for what its worth. Can VZW see that I rooted and flashed a ROM, even if I restore it back to stock? I don't want to run into any problems putting a claim in. Thanks!!
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I got the insurance, but I have 8 year old twins so I did not want to take the chance of them messing it up when I was not looking.
I don't usually get the insurance cause the phone already comes with 1 year manufacture warranty so I just gotta make sure I don't drop it. And to your second question, yes its pretty easy going back to stock. Just download Odin and the stock ROM and follow the instructions. It will unroot your phoneand WIPE EVERYTHING. For some reason I lost my imei and I couldn't recover it so Verizon replaced the phone under warranty at no charge.
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I use best buy geek squad insurance. It's only a couple bucks more a month it's like $10 a month but it last as long as you have the phone. they replace it with a new one not a refurb. No matter what happens to the phone. And I guess if it's out of stock than you get one of equal or greater value.. that what I was told by the rep selling me it but I figured anything is better than Verizon's asuron
Skyllos said:
I use best buy geek squad insurance. It's only a couple bucks more a month it's like $10 a month but it last as long as you have the phone. they replace it with a new one not a refurb. No matter what happens to the phone. And I guess if it's out of stock than you get one of equal or greater value.. that what I was told by the rep selling me it but I figured anything is better than Verizon's asuron
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We just need to hope best buy stays in business for that long.
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Skyllos said:
I use best buy geek squad insurance. It's only a couple bucks more a month it's like $10 a month but it last as long as you have the phone. they replace it with a new one not a refurb. No matter what happens to the phone. And I guess if it's out of stock than you get one of equal or greater value.. that what I was told by the rep selling me it but I figured anything is better than Verizon's asuron
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I got best buy too. They asked me "do you think you will break the phone, or loose it more?" i think id break it so i choose geeksquad. I heard bad things about it though, like 100$ for a cheap temp phone, and weeks to months to get your phone back. All i know is im not going to insurance intill my screen stops functioning or everything is just shattered. I already have a little circle back light bleeding in ths screen only visible in a dark room
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salas2324 said:
I got best buy too. They asked me "do you think you will break the phone, or loose it more?" i think id break it so i choose geeksquad. I heard bad things about it though, like 100$ for a cheap temp phone, and weeks to months to get your phone back. All i know is im not going to insurance intill my screen stops functioning or everything is just shattered. I already have a little circle back light bleeding in ths screen only visible in a dark room
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Lol the dude told me that you can get a replacement from a bestbuy store if they are in stock. Ooh and there no deductible
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No insurance. Never have, never will. Incredible money waster.
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husker_fan75 said:
No insurance. Never have, never will. Incredible money waster.
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You must be rich
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Skyllos said:
I use best buy geek squad insurance. It's only a couple bucks more a month it's like $10 a month but it last as long as you have the phone. they replace it with a new one not a refurb. No matter what happens to the phone. And I guess if it's out of stock than you get one of equal or greater value.. that what I was told by the rep selling me it but I figured anything is better than Verizon's asuron
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They lied to you. I worked there for 3 years.
The phone goes out to a 3rd party company in Dallas, and that company ships you a refurbished model back that more than likely won't be 100% functional.
During that time of anywhere from 3 business days to 30, they make you take a "loaner phone" which they charge you for.
Don't believe me? Call 1-800-GEEKSQUAD or go into another BBY or call Customer Service and ask.
Refurb. Only time it is new is if the system (called STAR) states the 3rd party company has no refurbs to give. Which happens almost never.
See my convo w/ Adrynalyne here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34666411#post34666411
Sometimes if you enroll into an autopay option with your bank and pay every month with your card, the bank will allow for some sort of deductible to pay for a new phone if something happens. I know mine does but I haven't looked into the fire print.
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I like the extended warranty since its only like $1 and some change a month. As for the insurance its nice to have, i don't care if the phone is refurbished or not as long as it works. My new phone had a nominal slow speed cpu and my refurb has a fast pvs so yay me!
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npro1464 said:
I typically never get insurance, but since I got this phone using my brother's upgrade and will not be able to upgrade again without someone losing unlimited data, I would like this phone to last. I've heard mixed things on the Verizon insurance- some love it and some don't see the need. Also, for those of you that have the insurance, do you have the total equipment coverage? This extends the one year warranty to the life of the phone. I wouldn't get this typically, but coming from a Thunderbolt, I experienced a drastic deterioration of my phone and again, I need the GS3 to last longer.
One more thing, is it easy going back to stock? I am currently rooted and am running CleanROM. I also backed up my IMEI, for what its worth. Can VZW see that I rooted and flashed a ROM, even if I restore it back to stock? I don't want to run into any problems putting a claim in. Thanks!!
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I got it for the very reason I carry it case-less and in my pocket.
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Lol the dude told me that you can get a replacement from a bestbuy store if they are in stock. Ooh and there no deductible
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LOL, good luck with that. not to be a ****, but you will never get a new phone from them, unless they have tried EVERYTHING else first, including sending it out for repair 3 TIMES! (about a month per time) Yes, you will be charged for a loner as well, and yes, it will suck the big one. I would NOT recommend the best buy insurance to anyone. I ALWAYS pushed the carrier, even though it is more.
Source:
I worked for these R-Tards in Michigan for 4 years, all in the mobile dept. (can you tell i'm a little bitter?)
I have verizon insurance. It's expensive but I feel better with it. I also have the otterbox Defender case. I am ocd about scratches.
For going back to stock I personally always make sure I know how to put the phone back to the out of box state. It's really easy, just check out the guide in development sticky. Use the G1 Odin link, I think it still works.
Edit: for best buys black tie plan, I broke my Droid x a few years ago, had that plan. Took it in and it took them a month to figure out they couldn't repair it then walked over and got a new one off the shelf. Stupid in my opinion but you do get a new phone.
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The vzw insurance is priceless extends phone warranty until you upgrade to diff phone
Another thing unless u drop phone anything that goes wrong is covered in house
The only draw back it's a ***** getting a different device after multiple remans
You will get your due for an update crap
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Thanks guys! I think I'm going to get the Total Equipment package. My experience with the Thunderbolt has been a disaster. Those who had the total equipment plan on the TBolt were able to get their phones swapped out for Rezounds (of course, after numerous rounds of trouble shoots and replacement TBolts). I don't think the S3 will deteriorate as quickly as the Thunderbolt, but again it's about being risk adverse. Thanks again!
I got my phone from Sams club and got their square trade insurance through them. $100 for 2 years and only $50 deductible. But they don't cover water damage
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npro1464 said:
Thanks guys! I think I'm going to get the Total Equipment package. My experience with the Thunderbolt has been a disaster. Those who had the total equipment plan on the TBolt were able to get their phones swapped out for Rezounds (of course, after numerous rounds of trouble shoots and replacement TBolts). I don't think the S3 will deteriorate as quickly as the Thunderbolt, but again it's about being risk adverse. Thanks again!
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After extensive b.s. I finally got an s3x2 for $0.00 and had to buy cases protectors cover battery
Best phone owned until I find problems
Right now not looking for problems
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I have insurance and also a spare xperia play as a backup. Let's say I switched to my xperia play and they switch the insurance to it. Since there's probably no chance of them having that phone anymore would they upgrade me to a newer phone if I filed a claim? This could be a workaround to the no more upgrades on unlimited data lines
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Return a rooted Note 5 within 14 days?

I'm thinking of returning my phone to T-Mobile and buying the $449 Gold Nexus 6P to save $200. My question is about Knox being tripped, as I will Odin it to stock first. If I return it, they will take it back and charge me $50, but will they check to see if Knox was tripped? If they do check, what will they do?
And yes, I realize the dumb decision I made by rooting and trying to return for a different phone.
Thanks to anyone who can enlighten me
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I'm thinking of returning my phone to T-Mobile and buying the $449 Gold Nexus 6P to save $200. My question is about Knox being tripped, as I will Odin it to stock first. If I return it, they will take it back and charge me $50, but will they check to see if Knox was tripped? If they do check, what will they do?
And yes, I realize the dumb decision I made by rooting and trying to return for a different phone.
Thanks to anyone who can enlighten me
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I mean why not find out when you return it? If they wont accept it then there's your answer.
I wanted to do the same but already past 14 days so now i have to find someone to sell this phone.. which is a little difficult.
Lochman79 said:
I'm thinking of returning my phone to T-Mobile and buying the $449 Gold Nexus 6P to save $200. My question is about Knox being tripped, as I will Odin it to stock first. If I return it, they will take it back and charge me $50, but will they check to see if Knox was tripped? If they do check, what will they do?
And yes, I realize the dumb decision I made by rooting and trying to return for a different phone.
Thanks to anyone who can enlighten me
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Stock it, return it and if they notice then sell it on Craigslist. Then get your 6p
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geeshiet said:
I mean why not find out when you return it? If they wont accept it then there's your answer.
I wanted to do the same but already past 14 days so now i have to find someone to sell this phone.. which is a little difficult.
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I'd rather not tip them off if it's not an issue unless I obviously pointed it out. I hate what you're saying though. I could call a T-Mobile anonymously and ask I guess.
Brava27 said:
Stock it, return it and if they notice then sell it on Craigslist. Then get your 6p
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I thought about just doing this. Just risky is all. Want to know if anyone around here actually works or has worked for T-Mobile and knows the answer.
Just called a T-Mobile and they said as long as it could be factory reset, it was a non issue.
I've returned at least 4 phones still rooted to T-Mobile never once got charged or was told anything about Knox being tripped
Lochman79 said:
I'm thinking of returning my phone to T-Mobile and buying the $449 Gold Nexus 6P to save $200. My question is about Knox being tripped, as I will Odin it to stock first. If I return it, they will take it back and charge me $50, but will they check to see if Knox was tripped? If they do check, what will they do?
And yes, I realize the dumb decision I made by rooting and trying to return for a different phone.
Thanks to anyone who can enlighten me
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Okay, so I can answer this for you. I've rooter every phone ice ever had, and also I've been jumping Samsung phones at t-mobile since I've had the s5. I put it back to stock, and factory reset and they've never noticed at all, or charged me for anything.
Can confirm. Have returned multiple rooted phones for years, and never had an issue.
I asked the rep at the T-Mobile store when I bought mine, and he said they don't care if it's been rooted, as long as it still works. He then showed me his rooted phone lol.
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I've returned at least 4 phones still rooted to T-Mobile never once got charged or was told anything about Knox being tripped
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Same here. Ive returned rooted phones on custom roms to tmo and never an issue. as long as they turn on and are in good shape is all they care.
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Same here. Ive returned rooted phones on custom roms to tmo and never an issue. as long as they turn on and are in good shape is all they care.
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I have returned a fe over the years but after I unrooted. My luck I return one that is rooted they would notice and tell me that I can't return and voids the warranty.

Went to T-mobile to replace my defective device, came out with more problems....

So... today i went to change my devices because i have a defective one. When the guy was making the exchange he said he needed a register number, but the girl who made the pre-order in the store for me didn't put any register number. Then everything went to hell! i called the department of solution from my car and guess what did i find out? They told me that the LG V20 has been removed from the warranty buyng remorse program of tmobile and thus i wouldnt be able to make the exchange. I got so pissed off with the guy that i had to smart up and then came out with the bunch of calls i have made to the department of solution and technical department and also all the chats i have done, which in total would make 22 agents i have spoken to, 13 agents by chat, 7 agents from the department of solution, and 2 agents from technical department. finally when i said that the guy from the technical department wrote a note in the system, he then said : "let me see the report and see what i can do" . Finally he send me a label shipping so that i could send the device and they will send a new one. BUT REALLY! I have driven from north to south and east to west in miami , from store to store, and ended up with this huge surprise of the warranty removed for the LG V20 from Tmobile. BETTER WATCH OUT PEOPLE! SMART UP! OTHERWISE YOU WILL KEEP YOUR DEFECTIVE DEVICE!
What do you mean warranty removed?
Doesn't sound like warranty removed. Either someone was pulling your chain, you pissed off a rep or two and they made some notes to make your life harder and/or T-Mobile might've have changed the policy on return period. Seriously doubt your warranty is removed. Warranty is through LG. I registered mine.
nest75068 said:
What do you mean warranty removed?
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@rbiter said:
Doesn't sound like warranty removed. Either someone was pulling your chain, you pissed off a rep or two and they made some notes to make your life harder and/or T-Mobile might've have changed the policy on return period. Seriously doubt your warranty is removed. Warranty is through LG. I registered mine.
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Well you know the 14 days given for buyer remorse? well, they weren't giving it to me. I havent pissed off anybody yet they did piss me? AAAAAH NOPE. No way in hell. Finally i managed to make them send me the shipping label and do the exchange. But i have been since 8 am doing this. I bought my phone on 19 of this month and it arrived on 21, i still have 1 more days before the 14 days expire, and they are trying to revoke my privileges ? Screw them. Im paying money for it. It is not free and under no circumstances it has been my fault that the device is defective. I havent even flashed the new TWRP and root methods nor invented with anything like that. Anyway. i will contact an agent via chat now before i send the package through UPS just to be safe.
Ah got it
Just FYI for the future -the 14 days starts from their shipping date (which you're still within so no worries) not the date you receive it (a little caveat hidden in the small/fine print of their 14 days period).
But yeah I'd be upset if I was still within that time frame and having issues.
@rbiter said:
Doesn't sound like warranty removed. Either someone was pulling your chain, you pissed off a rep or two and they made some notes to make your life harder and/or T-Mobile might've have changed the policy on return period. Seriously doubt your warranty is removed. Warranty is through LG. I registered mine.
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How do you register it through LG?
el_chuqui said:
How do you register it through LG?
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https://www.lg.com/us/support/mylg/product-registration
nest75068 said:
Ah got it
Just FYI for the future -the 14 days starts from their shipping date (which you're still within so no worries) not the date you receive it (a little caveat hidden in the small/fine print of their 14 days period).
But yeah I'd be upset if I was still within that time frame and having issues.
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yeah i know that! Thats why i know i still have 1 day left and i have spent all these days trying to do the replacement. Can you believe that?
jinkerz9430 said:
yeah i know that! Thats why i know i still have 1 day left and i have spent all these days trying to do the replacement. Can you believe that?
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That's weired, I normally have really good luck with Tmobile (aside from 1 instance recently).
I'm on Jump on Demand. I did a Jump for one of my lines to go from an iPhone 6s+ to an iPhone 7+. We got the phone on October 6th. I get my bill and they were trying to charge me for the 6s+ from 9/20 - 10/19 and the iPhone 7+ from 9/20/-10/19 lol
Yeah that wasn't going to happen but it took several calls and I finally just said fine, I have no problems going back to AT&T sine really I am the only one who uses JoD out of my family everyone can deal with same phone for a year. That got them to take care of it.
nest75068 said:
We got the phone on October 6th. I get my bill and they were trying to charge me for the 6s+ from 9/20 - 10/19 and the iPhone 7+ from 9/20/-10/19 lol
Yeah that wasn't going to happen but it took several calls and I finally just said fine, I have no problems going back to AT&T sine really I am the only one who uses JoD out of my family everyone can deal with same phone for a year. That got them to take care of it.
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Well,, isnt that enough to piss you off? i mean, money doesn't grow from trees , and even less for me having to pay college without fafsa So anyway, i did one last chatbox for today with tmobile just to keep it in record and rub it in their faces if something happens.... Now im phoneless for who knows how many days.
Swapping the device because it was defective has nothing to do with the buyers remorse period. My v20 was immediately defective from the store and I was able to swap it out with no issues at all.
jay-red said:
Swapping the device because it was defective has nothing to do with the buyers' remorse period. My v20 was immediately defective from the store and I was able to swap it out with no issues at all.
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Well, i dont know what the heck happened, But they weren't allowing me to replace it. In fact, the guy from Tmobile's store wanted me to give them the phone then buy the new phone directly from them and then i would lose the promotion of $200 dollars. The heck, after that i grabbed my defective phone went to the car and called the solution department. And there is were the second issue began. How could i have noticed that my device was defective if the behavior started when i used the phone on the third day? But i also noticed the screen bleeding at the first but decided to let it slide just because i wouldn't cry for some screen bleeding and that's it. But then at the third day, when the signal bar showed an x then it showed that it was connecting to the sim card again and also it started to reboot, HELL NO!, replacement for sure! But i have been dealing with that since the first day the phone showed the symptoms ,and i have been jumping from store to store, and from agent to agent and from, department to department. (by the way while i was talking with the guy on the department of solution today the signal dropped 5 times, so i lost him 5 times, although i warned him)
I am pretty sure that if the phone is mailed to you then you actually have 20 days for buyers remorse. As others have stated though a warranty exchange is not buyers remorse.
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Intub8 said:
I am pretty sure that if the phone is mailed to you then you actually have 20 days for buyers remorse. As others have stated though a warranty exchange is not buyers remorse.
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Im currently talking with a supervisor "FINALLY!" they will keep the promotion of the $200 dollars since it is not on tmobile anymore but they will add it to the new phone!. However, here is the downside.... I will have to wait until the latest week of november for the phone to arrive. In other words.... I'm phoneless....
i feel your pain. mine freaked out this morning while i slept. got up to a bootloop that i can not fix. called lg. was told to send it in for repair. said i'd deal with t-mo as i can't go without a phone. called t-mo, got told in order to get an exchange i would have to send in my current phone and wait 7 days for them to confirm they recieved the device then they'll ship new one. on plus side they did let me have a loaner for the time being. not the best but hey at least it works.
OvrDriVE said:
i feel your pain. mine freaked out this morning while i slept. got up to a bootloop that i can not fix. called lg. was told to send it in for repair. said i'd deal with t-mo as i can't go without a phone. called t-mo, got told in order to get an exchange i would have to send in my current phone and wait 7 days for them to confirm they recieved the device then they'll ship new one. on plus side they did let me have a loaner for the time being. not the best but hey at least it works.
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you got lucky they even gave you a spare one. They gave me nothing! im phoneless now! . I had to ask my mother for her phone for the time being (i installed a custom rom Resurrection remix on her LG G3 so that i could have 2 separate accounts in the phone and to not have to install apps on her profile, only in mine) . The supervisor who finally solved the issue today agreed with me about tmobile making a mess out of such simplicity. if i were to send you every single chat i did with them in addition to the conversations i had through the phone and all that you would have seen that it looked more like they wanted to act like fools and also as a conspiracy or something. Anyway, at least it is solved now. On the other hand,,, i spent a lot of gasoline and time dealing with this issue instead of studying for my midterms this week.
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you got lucky they even gave you a spare one. They gave me nothing! im phoneless now! . I had to ask my mother for her phone for the time being (i installed a custom rom Resurrection remix on her LG G3 so that i could have 2 separate accounts in the phone and to not have to install apps on her profile, only in mine) . The supervisor who finally solved the issue today agreed with me about tmobile making a mess out of such simplicity. if i were to send you every single chat i did with them in addition to the conversations i had through the phone and all that you would have seen that it looked more like they wanted to act like fools and also as a conspiracy or something. Anyway, at least it is solved now. On the other hand,,, i spent a lot of gasoline and time dealing with this issue instead of studying for my midterms this week.
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oh it wasn't easy, i first called lg, got no where with them except send it in for repair, called t-mo, we can send you one before you send yours in if you want to pay a new 50$ down plus tax on 749$ plus shipping, went to store. they couldn't exchange it because i bought it online. however i know the guy there real well so thats why i got a loaner. i paid i think 12$ and got the cheapest android device they had in stock. i'll return it when i get my new v20 and get my 12$ back and no restocking fee(got lucky here), and then i come home to call t-mo again to get told i'd have to pay or wait 7 days for them to get my device first then they'll send me a new one. i tend to get frustrated really easially. feel sorry for the rep at t-mo cause she got an earfull. it'd be nice if they knew there jobs and t-mo's policies on things. whatever the case a new one is coming. and problem solved, but by no means was it easy or as difficult as your situation. i feel sorry for ya man, but at least ya got it dealt with.
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oh it wasn't easy, i first called lg, got no where with them except send it in for repair, called t-mo, we can send you one before you send yours in if you want to pay a new 50$ down plus tax on 749$ plus shipping, went to store. they couldn't exchange it because i bought it online. however i know the guy there real well so thats why i got a loaner. i paid i think 12$ and got the cheapest android device they had in stock. i'll return it when i get my new v20 and get my 12$ back and no restocking fee(got lucky here), and then i come home to call t-mo again to get told i'd have to pay or wait 7 days for them to get my device first then they'll send me a new one. i tend to get frustrated really easially. feel sorry for the rep at t-mo cause she got an earfull. it'd be nice if they knew there jobs and t-mo's policies on things. whatever the case a new one is coming. and problem solved, but by no means was it easy or as difficult as your situation. i feel sorry for ya man, but at least ya got it dealt with.
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Damn.!!! it will cost me to get to know a couple of buddies from all the tmobile retailer stores within a 10 mile radius from me LOL! They made me do the order again and cancelled everything related to the other phone. (Of course, adding the promotions and all that). Although i forgot to ask them what is going to happen with my earphones, because my order was already processed for the other one and i registered that one to get my earphones and i dont know if the shipped or not... do i get a second pair of earphones if i register again? because i dont know where am i stepping on right now..... I registered the other order 6 days ago . And it says from 5 to 9 days.. so , if they shipped the earphones already , i get 2?
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Damn.!!! it will cost me to get to know a couple of buddies from all the tmobile retailer stores within a 10 mile radius from me LOL! They made me do the order again and cancelled everything related to the other phone. (Of course, adding the promotions and all that). Although i forgot to ask them what is going to happen with my earphones, because my order was already processed for the other one and i registered that one to get my earphones and i dont know if the shipped or not... do i get a second pair of earphones if i register again? because i dont know where am i stepping on right now..... I registered the other order 6 days ago . And it says from 5 to 9 days.. so , if they shipped the earphones already , i get 2?
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as long as you got a reciept for the new order you get 2nd pair
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as long as you got a reciept for the new order you get 2nd pair
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Yippieeeeeee

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