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Hey guys. I've tried multiple ROMs (Cyanogen, Cataclysm and Stock), multiple kernels (Faux, ElementalX and currently Franco R32).
I've got Greenify and most things are Greenified, I've got the latest play services, I've disabled location, I use Lux on 15% brightness for most conditions, I'm even on Wifi for most of my days. I have no idea where I'm going on, but almost every day my battery craps out after around 12-14 hours with almost always bang on 3 hours screen on time.
I've seen so many people reporting 4.5 as a low end of what to expect on a regular day, and I'd love that. I've posted my Better Battery Stats log below - if anyone could have a look and see what's causing my problem, or give any advice, that'd be so great. Thanks for reading.
Log: http://pastebin.com/FqCtnSft
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Thing that jumps out for me is wakelocks 49% by audiomix with Facebook as the leader..as well as alarms..with again Facebook as the leader. Could you survive with the online version?
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Use a custom ROM with quick tiles or powertoggles and disable data when you aren't using it.
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wideasleep1 said:
Thing that jumps out for me is wakelocks 49% by audiomix with Facebook as the leader..as well as alarms..with again Facebook as the leader. Could you survive with the online version?
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Run a few cycles of betterbatterystats and post your data in their thread. They are great at tracking down partial wakelocks and resolving the issues.
Make sure Settings, Wifi, Advanced, is set to No always scanning available. Set Location to Device only. Turn off Sync when not needed. Go in to your Settings, Accounts, and disable anything you don't need sync in the background.
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Time to buy a phone with a bigger battery
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dicecuber said:
Time to buy a phone with a bigger battery
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While a bigger battery would always be welcome, the N5 certainly doesn't need one. I average 4.5 hrs screen time and can go 2 full days on a charge if I'm not playing any games. The only other phone I've owned (which is a LOT) to beat it in battery life is the Moto X.
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I disagree. For a 5inch 1080p screen, the battery is underpowered, for its higher end specs. I feel like they should have powered down the screen to 720p and reduced the size is 4.7-8inches.
To each their own.
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i get great battery life with my N5 better then my htc one.. better the my GS4 also.. yes i have a custom kernel but i dont undervolt or underclock at all.. and both my one and gs4 have custom kernels as well... the N5 beats any phone i have ever had in battery life and speed/smoothnes
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I disagree. For a 5inch 1080p screen, the battery is underpowered, for its higher end specs. I feel like they should have powered down the screen to 720p and reduced the size is 4.7-8inches.
To each their own.
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What you're saying makes no sense. The Nexus 5 has been proven to last longer then an SGS4 which has a bigger battery, and the HTC one with the same size battery (under proper testing conditions) all while using a faster SoC. Do you troll the forums for those phones as well?
Maybe a Moto G or LG G2 would suit some people better for their increased battery life, but that doesn't mean you need to troll every thread on here with false accusations.
If you'd like any more proof on how the N5 battery lasts longer and is more efficient than competing phones of higher prices, just let me know.
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Hey guys. I've tried multiple ROMs (Cyanogen, Cataclysm and Stock), multiple kernels (Faux, ElementalX and currently Franco R32).
I've got Greenify and most things are Greenified, I've got the latest play services, I've disabled location, I use Lux on 15% brightness for most conditions, I'm even on Wifi for most of my days. I have no idea where I'm going on, but almost every day my battery craps out after around 12-14 hours with almost always bang on 3 hours screen on time.
I've seen so many people reporting 4.5 as a low end of what to expect on a regular day, and I'd love that. I've posted my Better Battery Stats log below - if anyone could have a look and see what's causing my problem, or give any advice, that'd be so great. Thanks for reading.
Log: http://pastebin.com/FqCtnSft
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bblzd said:
What you're saying makes no sense. The Nexus 5 has been proven to last longer then an SGS4 which has a bigger battery, and the HTC one with the same size battery (under proper testing conditions) all while using a faster SoC. Do you troll the forums for those phones as well?
Maybe a Moto G or LG G2 would suit some people better for their increased battery life, but that doesn't mean you need to troll every thread on here with false accusations.
If you'd like any more proof on how the N5 battery lasts longer and is more efficient than competing phones of higher prices, just let me know.
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Having had the s4 and HTC One, I can safely say the S4 has better battery life than the n5. HTC One battery life is atrocious I agree with you on that. Personally, I am waiting on the 2014 releases to upgrade.
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Having had the s4 and HTC One, I can safely say the S4 has better battery life than the n5. HTC One battery life is atrocious I agree with you on that. Personally, I am waiting on the 2014 releases to upgrade.
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You're arguing against facts but then that does not surprise me. SGS4 battery is bigger and get's less time powering weaker hardware then the N5, probably due to AMOLED and I've already provided the link which shows this. Proper testing conditions might not align with you're own subjective views but then that doesn't surprise me either.
It's personal views having had those devices. N5 is snappier but the battery is a disappointment. Why can't I have my own views?
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It's personal views having had those devices. N5 is snappier but the battery is a disappointment. Why can't I have my own views?
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no one is saying you cant have your own views. they are saying that your views are redundant facts. Of course the s4 is going to be better battery wise. anyone who bought an n5 expecting fantastic battery either didnt do enough homework on the phone or are thinking something along the lines of "oh em geez xda will have the magical bean to make my battery 10000000000x better then a phone with a bigger battery just because i want it"
as for the op, 3 hours of screen on time is pretty much average and normal for this phone. if you want anymore out of it either get a battery case or a different phone. though you can probably get more out of it by setting your network mode to "prefer 3g" instead of "lte".
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It's personal views having had those devices. N5 is snappier but the battery is a disappointment. Why can't I have my own views?
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A quick review of your post history/sig makes your 'views' look more like an agenda. But you're free to continue your troll...er..crusade.
Guys, can we please keep this thread about my battery problems? Maybe make another thread for debating the size of the N5's battery. I'm just looking to increase my Screen on Time
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Guys, can we please keep this thread about my battery problems? Maybe make another thread for debating the size of the N5's battery. I'm just looking to increase my Screen on Time
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I was just curious if you tried deleting the FB app for a any given time (like a day)...I suspect it is causing audio wakelocks well beyond a normal app. In the wakelock thread, it has been mentioned as one of the apps jettisoned for the mobile web version due to poor impact on battery.
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Guys, can we please keep this thread about my battery problems? Maybe make another thread for debating the size of the N5's battery. I'm just looking to increase my Screen on Time
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Still didn't answer my question.
Disable anything and everything you don't use.
I've got tasker set to turn location on when I launch Maps (or any other app I need Location for) and turn it off when I exit that app, and have uninstalled or disabled every other app I don't use. You can also root, install xposed and use Greenify. I can get 3 hrs SOT, while using navigation with gps on the entire 3 hours, and have 40% left.
There is nothing wrong with battery on Nexus 5. It could be bigger, but it doesn't need it to have good battery life.
Since you've done most of that, you definitely need to run BBS to see what is draining it.
Edit: didn't see your log at first. Can you post battery graphs?
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Hi to all I'm thinking of getting a nexus 5.
But would like to know a couple of things and where better to ask.
First off I'm a bit hard of hearing so need the in-call speaker to be loud so as a nexus 5 user would you say the volume is about the same as a s4
As at the minute I'm using a galaxy s advance
Second I play a lot of games so what is the battery life like on a nexus 5.
Thanks for any help given
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Hi to all I'm thinking of getting a nexus 5.
But would like to know a couple of things and where better to ask.
First off I'm a bit hard of hearing so need the in-call speaker to be loud so as a nexus 5 user would you say the volume is about the same as a s4
As at the minute I'm using a galaxy s advance
Second I play a lot of games so what is the battery life like on a nexus 5.
Thanks for any help given
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For me the in-call speaker is loud enough. Don`t know your degree of hard hearing but i think it will be loud enough and is surely compatible with the S4. If needed you can always root it and increase the volume of the mic and speaker. As for batterylife its average and compearable with the S4 or Sony for instance. It also is very user dependant and of your signal reception quality. On stock you have 3-4 hrs. screenontime and with a good custom kernel about 5-7 hours. For its price its the best phone you can find imo.
And yes questions should be posted in Q&A next time
Hmmm. I love my nexus 5, don't get me wrong and yes the speaker is loud enough BUT with a Samsung the speaker is linear and you don't need to be exact with your ear placement on the speaker. On the N5 it is small and circular. Not everyone has this problem but I know I'm not alone....it can be quite awkward to get that speaker central to your ear to get a decent volume from it.
I would recommend testing it before buying
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Hi to all I'm thinking of getting a nexus 5.
But would like to know a couple of things and where better to ask.
First off I'm a bit hard of hearing so need the in-call speaker to be loud so as a nexus 5 user would you say the volume is about the same as a s4
As at the minute I'm using a galaxy s advance
Second I play a lot of games so what is the battery life like on a nexus 5.
Thanks for any help given
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For me the in-call speaker is loud enough. Don`t know your degree of hard hearing but i think it will be loud enough and is surely compatible with the S4. If needed you can always root it and increase the volume of the mic and speaker. As for batterylife its average and compearable with the S4 or Sony for instance. It also is very user dependant and of your signal reception quality. On stock you have 3-4 hrs. screenontime and with a good custom kernel about 5-7 hours. For its price its the best phone you can find imo.
And yes questions should be posted in Q&A next time
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The in-call speaker seems to be the same as the S4, but the exterior speaker where speaker-phone or music is played does not seem quite as loud.
As for battery life with gaming, I would say look elsewhere. While I agree with gee2012 that the Nexus 5 is the best phone for the price--and I would even go so far as to say it's my favorite phone to date and possibly the best all-around phone pre-GS5 and M8--I do not think it is the best phone for gaming. The screen is great, and the processor seems to be able to handle anything I throw at it, but the battery cannot handle extensive gaming. I hear people claiming all the time about 6-7 hours screen-on-time, but I think that is the rare white buffalo that you'll never see in actual use.
First, I haven't actually seen a single screen shot hitting more than 6 hours SOT, but I do believe it is possible and I have seen trusted sources make independent claims. Second, achieving those results requires aftermarket tweeks, such as finding the perfect custom ROM and kernel combo. I haven't found a combo that gives me much better than stock, although that is completely fine for me (stock on N5 is much better than stock on GNex and slightly better than N4). Third, if you do somehow manage to get 7 hours SOT, it means you a) were not running processor-intensive processes (so no gaming), and b) did not get much better than 7 hours total battery life. You basically took your phone of the charger, played on it non-stop until your phone died, then put it back on the charger.
I would love for someone to prove me wrong, but I just haven't seen it. If someone can post legit screenshots of getting 6-7 hours SOT while gaming, I'd love to see it. But if I was buying a phone for primarily gaming purposes (which I would never do, that's what tablets are for), I would aim for something with a bigger and/or removable battery.
As for normal operations, the battery life is fine. I took my phone off the charger on Saturday morning and did not need to plug it back in until Sunday night this weekend, and even then I was only at like 20%. My total SOT was only about 2-2.5 hours, though, and I was connected to WiFi the entire time and used my phone only to text, browse the internet, and play Words with Friends when my N7 was out of reach (busy, hermit-like weekend). Using my N5 as a smart phone in conjunction with using my Nexus 7 more as a computer (most web-browsing, most gaming, and all Chrome Casting), I rarely have below 50% battery at the end of a 12 hour day.
Yep. I can show you a screen shot of when I got 7 hours screen on time. However, this is on non-intensive use. Browsing, texts, emails. WiFi. Consistent phone signal. The use was normal. But as soon as the CPU or GPU ramps up, this won't be possible. Really racing / gta - you'll be lucky to get 2 hours SoT and leave enough battery for the phone to be a phone for the rest of the day.
One thing I have noticed though is these games ramp cpu to max and battery drains. I had profiles for the games above to max CPU at 1700 or there abouts as the games don't need it.
Space will always be an issue here for a gamer. Yeah its good for playing games but not for long
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First, I haven't actually seen a single screen shot hitting more than 6 hours SOT, but I do believe it is possible and I have seen trusted sources make independent claims. Second, achieving those results requires aftermarket tweeks, such as finding the perfect custom ROM and kernel combo. I haven't found a combo that gives me much better than stock, although that is completely fine for me (stock on N5 is much better than stock on GNex and slightly better than N4). Third, if you do somehow manage to get 7 hours SOT, it means you a) were not running processor-intensive processes (so no gaming), and b) did not get much better than 7 hours total battery life. You basically took your phone of the charger, played on it non-stop until your phone died, then put it back on the charger.
I would love for someone to prove me wrong, but I just haven't seen it. If someone can post legit screenshots of getting 6-7 hours SOT while gaming, I'd love to see it. But if I was buying a phone for primarily gaming purposes (which I would never do, that's what tablets are for), I would aim for something with a bigger and/or removable battery.
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It's more common then you might think, just check the battery results thread. Root is not required but light usage, low brightness, mostly WiFi, and eliminating background drains certainly helps.
Each one I've posted there was 6-8 hours SoT over 24+ hours with little to no gaming. My daily average is 5-6 with half the day on data and short gaming sessions.
I've tested the device purely for gaming as well. Average gaming time seems to be 3.5 hours. Some games are more optimized than others.
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Playing a lot of games will destroy any phones battery. Thats just how it is. No matter what you buy, you'll be far below the average battery times if you game a lot.
My point is, any phone you buy....you'll want a charger nearby if you play games a lot. Or an external battery pack.
So....I wouldn't worry about battery life much, you'll be charging frequently no matter what phone you have.
The N5 can play them nicely....that should be what matters. ?
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I get 5 hours sot with Franco kernel and carbon and almost 2 days with moderate battery life should be better on 4.4.3
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Playing a lot of games will destroy any phones battery. Thats just how it is. No matter what you buy, you'll be far below the average battery times if you game a lot.
My point is, any phone you buy....you'll want a charger nearby if you play games a lot. Or an external battery pack.
So....I wouldn't worry about battery life much, you'll be charging frequently no matter what phone you have.
The N5 can play them nicely....that should be what matters. ?
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With other phones though you can get a bigger battery. Battery pack may not help because you may need otg to fit games on
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With other phones though you can get a bigger battery. Battery pack may not help because you may need otg to fit games on
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True ?
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I bought the Nexus 5 to test apps on, and have left it sitting to test the battery (no non-stock apps installed), and it's been going for 3 days and is at 70% battery. That's phenomenal to me. I haven't activated it on a carrier yet, so maybe that's the reason, but Cell Standby in Battery Usage is saying about 15%, which is about normal on other phones I've seen.
I'm used to Verizon devices which last a day for phones and about 4 days for a tablet, so maybe it's just Verizon.
Can someone clarify on how good this battery actually is? Is it just that it's not attached to a carrier yet?
Standby battery life is pretty good. However if you use the phone a lot expect to see diminishing returns real fast. the most I've got is 5 hours over WiFi but I believe it's possible to get more mileage. Though that would IMO involve the crippling of the phone functionality
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Battery is the low point to this device imo
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I agree. Battery life when actively using the device is the only thing that let this phone down. I've also found that idling on the phone is rather good.
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Try the battery thread in my signature for help.
And try the battery thread in general to see what some others get for battery life. 3 or 4 hours screen time is about the average with "everything on"... And many get 5 to 6 hours screen time by doing some of the things in Posts 2 and 3 in the Battery thread in my signature.
The N5 battery may be average compared to similar devices with similar specs and battery sizes... But like all devices, it can be made to last much longer if that's a priority for you. ?
Just takes some tweaking, sacrifice and effort.
I am stuck between the LG G2 and the Nexus 5. I will buy the phone unlocked. Both are priced the same in my country. I've been to multiple stores and tried the devices.
I really like the nexus 5 but the battery life is main concern.
My daily usage is somewhat like this:
2 hours of offline music (screen off).
30-60 minutes of web browsing
10 minutes of phone calls
30-40 minutes spent on apps like feedly and 9gag and other such apps
Average amount of messaging
Don't click a lot of pictures (1-3 in a day or even none)
Average amount of messaging
Most of the day is spent on wifi
Network signal strength is good. No LTE in my country so I use 3G
Little to no gaming on the phone (1 hour cumulatively in 3-4 days, mostly 2D games)
So can I get about 13-16 hours with this kind of usage? Will android lollipop make things better?
Or should I go for the G2. I know that the battery life is much better. But Personally I don't like the user interface on the G2. Plus I've heard that the bootloader is locked on the G2. I know about the Loki bypass but it has been patched up in the 4.4.2 update so I don't know whether I'll be able to flash a custom rom on the G2. Also I've heard that developers are now reluctant to develop for the G2 because of this?
So please suggest what should I buy. Should I get the nexus 5?
G2 will get lollipop update .... That will change ui to that of g3. ...
Also since ur usage is above moderate ... G2 will be better..... my choice would be g2 it suits ur need better
G2 = bigger battery
N5 = updates
And as said above it will get the g3 ui but i heard somewhere that it apparently lags a lot...
That would be it
I don't think anyone can or should decide which phone you should buy. Looking at your list I think it should best for you to decide what you want most from your phone.
I personally have to charge my N5 once a day, sometime twice depend on the usage.
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G2 = bigger battery
N5 = updates
And as said above it will get the g3 ui but i heard somewhere that it apparently lags a lot...
That would be it
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Than you for your reply, but I figured out that much by reading the spec sheet of the phones. You're stating the obvious. What I really wanted to know is how the nexus performs. Since you are on this thread, I assume that you have a Nexus 5. What I want to know is how does the battery hold up with your usage. Please elaborate on your usage. Will I be able to get a day out of the nexus with my usage?
I really want the nexus, but the battery life is holding me off, if I can get the usage I want, then I will get the phone
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I don't think anyone can or should decide which phone you should buy. Looking at your list I think it should best for you to decide what you want most from your phone.
I personally have to charge my N5 once a day, sometime twice depend on the usage.
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I agree that I will be the one finally deciding the phone. But I really value you opinions. They will ultimately help me decide. You say you charge you phone once or twice in a day. What is your usage pattern? How many hours do you get out of a single charge? Can I get the usage I mentioned in my first post out of a single charge?
Get a powerbank man problem solved..
Ananay Singh said:
I agree that I will be the one finally deciding the phone. But I really value you opinions. They will ultimately help me decide. You say you charge you phone once or twice in a day. What is your usage pattern? How many hours do you get out of a single charge? Can I get the usage I mentioned in my first post out of a single charge?
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Again. all of this is subjective. Depends on what all apps you've installed and how you've setup your phone. With your usage pattern, it will be slightly difficult for you to pull this off.
The same usage patterns will differ from person to person as it depends on a lot of variables.
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I second this! I'm usually around charger at all times so, battery life doesn't really hurt me much. But, when I know I won't be around a charger, I do carry a powerbank in my backpack!
I am currently running the newest android 5.0 dev preview, and since installing it my battery life has improved drastically. And android 5.0 has a battery saving mode that kicks on at 25,20,15,10, or 5 percent, you choose what percent to set that at. I am a power user to the extreme. I really mean extreme. I have nfc and Bluetooth on all the time, on the web multiple hours per day reading and watching videos, on calls for 1 hour per day. I top off the battery on a wireless charging pad for one hour during lunch, and i leave it on a charging pad overnight. And i get by just fine. But everyones usage will very depending on how you use and set your phone up. I would not let battery life determine my decision if i were you. Look at other features, size, feel, etc. Personally ive had a n5 since launch and i wouldn't trade it for anything at this time.
I had the G2 for a long time. While it was a great phone, with awesome battery life, after now getting a nexus 5 I much prefer this phone even if the battery isn't as good. But its all personal preference. I love this nexus 5.
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Than you for your reply, but I figured out that much by reading the spec sheet of the phones. You're stating the obvious. What I really wanted to know is how the nexus performs. Since you are on this thread, I assume that you have a Nexus 5. What I want to know is how does the battery hold up with your usage. Please elaborate on your usage. Will I be able to get a day out of the nexus with my usage?
I really want the nexus, but the battery life is holding me off, if I can get the usage I want, then I will get the phone
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Sorry i answered to quick. The n5 can give you 2 days if you want but this means that you are on a good kernel (stock or elemental) and on a good rom (stock is the best i think). In this 2 days I dont use data much so the phone is mostly on wifi and i get around 5- 6hrs screen on. I dont dimm the screen i leave it on auto mostly and i have it oveclocked to 2.5. I also cover a lot of browsing in tapatalk, reddit and also in chrome (which became a big batt sucker lately but things are improving). So at least 2hrs in these apps. Also around 20min talk time. All the time i am on 2g with a very good sigbal. My conclusion... It should get you through the day np
Regarding android l people are reporting better battery results
And just to clear it even more. Yesterday i flashed the pa beta 6 build (had enough of L) and left it on the charger through the night. I woke up downloaded a 2gb file via wifi reinstalled a lot of missing apps listened to some music for 30min (i use viperfx which drains the batt even more) and in the end of the day i have a 2hr sot with 12hr standby and 54%. The 2hrs were browsing in bacon, chrome and tapatalk. But this is the first cycle and as you know it needs a bit to settle so battery life gets even better. So in a few days i would expect a 2hr and 30min sot time with the same usage as i had today. This would be it. If you got any more questions just ask
have both these phones in my family... if you get the chance put them side by side.... nexus 5 has a yellow screen
i never notice until i mess with my wife's g2, as my eyes accept the whites on my nexus 5 as normal.
i wish my wife would swap with me
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have both these phones in my family... if you get the chance put them side by side.... nexus 5 has a yellow screen
i never notice until i mess with my wife's g2, as my eyes accept the whites on my nexus 5 as normal.
i wish my wife would swap with me
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I think the yellow screen can be replaced
Imo kernel has a very less effect on battery life.... It solely depends on your usage, network and display brightness..
The Nexus has a battery results thread in the general section. How about checking that out. There's hundreds of members battery times already there to review. ?
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Here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509132
Since you don't have LTE in your country and you don't do intensive gaming, you might want to consider the Moto G 2014. The battery life on the Moto G will be better than the Nexus 5, and unlike the G2 the Moto G is unlockable and the software will be up to date for a good long while. It also doesn't hurt that the G is like half the price of the N5.
G2 easy decision
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BirchBarlow said:
Since you don't have LTE in your country and you don't do intensive gaming, you might want to consider the Moto G 2014. The battery life on the Moto G will be better than the Nexus 5, and unlike the G2 the Moto G is unlockable and the software will be up to date for a good long while. It also doesn't hurt that the G is like half the price of the N5.
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3 of my friends have the 2014 Moto G. I've used it and I must say I was impressed. But there are two major shortcomings of the phone. First the barely over 4GB of space for apps. With ART being the default runtime in Lollipop, Apps will only get bigger in size. Second is the 1GB RAM which limits the multitasking to a certain extent. Also I do play intensive games on my phone, on weekends or on my days off when I'm at home, so there's that. More importantly I don't know how the Moto G will hold up over the course of 18-24 months
If someone has no interest in big graphics games, or any CPU intensive activities... And doesn't care about having the "best" phone out there..... The G seems like the best bang for your buck deal out there. ?
I couldn't be happier with the performance of this device.
Thank you moto!
Really? I mean performance is good but a lot of us here have crap SOT. Mine barely makes 2 hours of SOT, which is pretty low.
Which rom and what's the theme?
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I couldn't be happier with the performance of this device.
Thank you moto!
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How are you managing 5-6 hours screen on time on mobile data and what are you doing? Nobody gets that without some serious tweaking and the screen brightness basically off... 5 hours of continuous use on WiFi maybe, maybe, but not on mobile data.
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I couldn't be happier with the performance of this device.
Thank you moto!
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You may be the only owner of this device to ever actually type this out. I mean, battery life is fine, but if it was actually GREAT, it could have been one of the better Android devices ever made. Without it, I like the phone. And nothing more.
acejavelin said:
How are you managing 5-6 hours screen on time on mobile data and what are you doing? Nobody gets that without some serious tweaking and the screen brightness basically off... 5 hours of continuous use on WiFi maybe, maybe, but not on mobile data.
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Its all true. I put this phone through a lot too. I've themed
every app and every icon. It seems like I'm constantly
changing something. I reboot between 5 and 10 times a
day also. I used to tweak it but I've found simple is better.
I haven't made any changes to the build.prop and the gov
settings are basic (attached). Here are some pics to show
some of my work.
tycho.98 said:
Which rom and what's the theme?
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See above.
I've NEVER had a SOT of over 3 hours lol
aakashverma0007 said:
I've NEVER had a SOT of over 3 hours lol
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Hmm... I average 3h 26m but my max isn't quite 4h, and that's average over 3 months.
acejavelin said:
Hmm... I average 3h 26m but my max isn't quite 4h, and that's average over 3 months.
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I never noticed that "average" feature on GSM, but upon looking at mine, I am averaging 2:31. Yikes! I use xposed, Ambient display, and some other screen things like f.lux though. Not sure how to quantify the difference.
But to the OPs point about rebooting 10 times a day..I sometimes lose 7-8% of battery when I reboot so this is even harder to believe.
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randalgibbons said:
Its all true. I put this phone through a lot too. I've themed
every app and every icon. It seems like I'm constantly
changing something. I reboot between 5 and 10 times a
day also. I used to tweak it but I've found simple is better.
I haven't made any changes to the build.prop and the gov
settings are basic (attached). Here are some pics to show
some of my work.
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I'm going to try the CPU settings you have and see if it makes any difference for me.
Haven't had the device that long but I'm around 7 hrs SOT. No problems hitting 6 hrs.
Non-rooted, basic setup, sync on, data on all the time though I'm in a terrible area for T-Mobile so I've set it to 3g lately..... Most battery lost browsing the web. No WiFi.
Since I don't get a lot of notifications, or spend a lot of time on the phone or have social apps = good battery life.
I've got over 9 hrs SOT with my LG optimus g pro rooted and locked down. Easy 7.5 on that phone no matter what.
Got 9 hrs using my neighbour's Moto G4 Plus.
Charles7 said:
Haven't had the device that long but I'm around 7 hrs SOT. No problems hitting 6 hrs.
Non-rooted, basic setup, sync on, data on all the time though I'm in a terrible area for T-Mobile so I've set it to 3g lately..... Most battery lost browsing the web. No WiFi.
Since I don't get a lot of notifications, or spend a lot of time on the phone or have social apps = good battery life.
I've got over 9 hrs SOT with my LG optimus g pro rooted and locked down. Easy 7.5 on that phone no matter what.
Got 9 hrs using my neighbour's Moto G4 Plus.
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There is just no possible way this is true. SOT (screen on time) is not the same as the time it takes the phone to die after you pull it off the charger. Even the Nexus 6p has an average of like 6 hours SOT and it's got an extra 450mAh. Right now I'm running this phone totally stock unrooted without many apps and my SOT varies from 2-3 hours. Back when I was rooted and spent a lot of time doing battery related tweaks (which also happen to kill a lot of funtionality) I could get just over 4 hours. My sister in law has a G4 (non plus) and averages 3-3.5 hours SOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509
Always over 5 hours sot but it's not enough, I had a LG g2 and could get 7+ sot but that was only a 1080p screen, if Moto had chosen a 1080p amoled screen this phone would of been unbeatable.
Sean89us said:
There is just no possible way this is true. . .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509
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And yet....At 48% left
I can honestly say 5+ hours SOT is possible. However, I achieved that with airplane mode on for a few hours and was reading a Kindle book with about 35% brightness, white text on black background. This requires little processing power and minimal touch interaction. On a regular day 3-4 hours is norm and this is checking emails, reading forums and news, reading some on Kindle, and about half of a day on 3g (not LTE). I don't get many emails, texts, or calls, so notifications are at a minimal (I have Moto display on). I also use Google now to track weather, traffic, packages, etc and have both Google and Moto voice off (just can't justify it when the mic button is just a tap). I just cannot see the SOT time you are claiming, especially if you are not rooted and heavily tweaked. I'm happy with my set up though and would not cripple my phone in the name of battery life.
Sean89us said:
There is just no possible way this is true. SOT (screen on time) is not the same as the time it takes the phone to die after you pull it off the charger. Even the Nexus 6p has an average of like 6 hours SOT and it's got an extra 450mAh. Right now I'm running this phone totally stock unrooted without many apps and my SOT varies from 2-3 hours. Back when I was rooted and spent a lot of time doing battery related tweaks (which also happen to kill a lot of funtionality) I could get just over 4 hours. My sister in law has a G4 (non plus) and averages 3-3.5 hours SOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509
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I'm wondering if we should be considering the quality of the batteries being put into our devices. Look what got past the QC inspectors at Samsung's manufacturer. Makes me wonder how well they control their processes and how low a level of quality are they willing to ship out their door. Hmm...
Charles7 said:
And yet....At 48% left
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How? I can only get 2:30 of screen, if I use it a lot, 3h...
Screen brightness is the key... The display panel is what takes most of the battery, if you turn off auto brightness and turn the brightness down to near zero you will get much higher more battery life.
The real problem with this device isn't the battery, it's the display panel (in regards to battery life).
Sean89us said:
There is just no possible way this is true. SOT (screen on time) is not the same as the time it takes the phone to die after you pull it off the charger. Even the Nexus 6p has an average of like 6 hours SOT and it's got an extra 450mAh. Right now I'm running this phone totally stock unrooted without many apps and my SOT varies from 2-3 hours. Back when I was rooted and spent a lot of time doing battery related tweaks (which also happen to kill a lot of funtionality) I could get just over 4 hours. My sister in law has a G4 (non plus) and averages 3-3.5 hours SOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509
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My N6P is currently in the "shop", I got the dreaded boot loop of death. While I wait for it to come back, I've been enjoying the MXPE, excellent phone. I just wanted to add my comment to the N6P getting 6 hours of SOT. I bought it new in Dec. 15 from Google and the very very best SOT is around 3.5 hours. I'm a medium user I would say; email, messaging, web, some social media. I've tried most of the N6P roms and kernels and maybe with Franko's kernel I eked out a bit more, but never got more then 4 hours and that was rare. I generally have my display turned way down, turn off notifications except for messaging, phone, greenify. Nougat was better then MM, but not much.
So far the battery on the MXPE is pretty on par with the 6P for me.
The OP of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3249458
does pretty much exactly what I've always done, and the battery life is within 30 minutes of mine, I'm currently not rooted and can't disable as many continuously running background apps.
I've always cringed when I would read reviews and people on here about SOT whenever I was considering buying a device. But each person's way of using the device is unique -- one bad app can kill SOT, even using chrome as your main browser will put a big dent in it.
I would say, other than data being on always instead of on WiFi, I use my device like I've always used a pc or tablet.....
If I was only getting 3 hrs SOT I would only look at devices I could get an extended battery case for OR I would be tied to an outlet.
Nonetheless, 6+ hrs SOT is possible for this device -- regardless of what anyone wants to *believe* is possible