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I'm switching over from an HTC Pure (win mob 6.5). I've been watching Android and am dying to get going with it. But before making the plunge, I'm curious on the phone.
1) If HTC does not provide Android 2.4 upgrades or beyond, will the custom ROMs offering 2.4 allow the Google Marketplace to work? I ask this because the HTC Pure Android ROM doesn't offer Marketplace because of incompatibilities with a non-Android phone.
2) Will Skype work on it? I've been holding out for an HTC with a front-facing camera to do video Skype like iPhone offeres. But, that doesn't seem to ever be an option for HTC users... always a back-side camera only deal.
3) I know the Netflix isn't available for Android yet. But, does anyone have input on this CPU being on the supported list for the Netflix app that does come out?
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lrs421 is correct, moved to general as not android development
Agreed, I apologize and I thought I was on the general thread. Guess I posted on the wrong Firefox tab. Thanks for moving it to the right forum.
First of all the pure sucked so this is godsend compared to the pure. Just get and see for yourself.
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I agree that the Pure is crap. But, what about the proposed questions above? I'm wanting to go in knowing what I'll be capable...
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I agree that the Pure is crap. But, what about the proposed questions above? I'm wanting to go in knowing what I'll be capable...
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Sure um well lets see...
1. Absolutely however 2.4 is a ways off and 2.3 has yet to be officially released for inspire (summer i think). In other words don't worry about it unless you intend on rooting and flashing but as far as I know most if not all roms support marketplace.
2. Skype app should work but you kind of answered your own question. Why would you attempt to video conference on a phone without a front facing camera? I had iphone 4 and hardly used facial time, it was more like "cool i can see you" and um you look exactly the same as I saw you last.
3. Yes as far as I know all snapdragon processors should be supported.
Like I said before this phone is worlds better than the pure (I had one). If you just want a phone for pure (no pun intended) functionality then get an iphone 4. But if you want a phone you can hack and customize, with tons of potential and great specs then definitely get the inspire. I hope that helps
all custom ROMs still support the marketplace with no issues. so you have nothing to worry about.
Loving this purchase! Only have one problem with the thing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=998354 -- I cannot get Reminders to dismiss from the lock screen.
Hello dear,
I have one question before I get my new smartphone.
I'm currently using WP7 which is Samsung Omnia 7.
I finally think it's not mature enough to use now in terms of some crucial features and a lack of apps. But actually I like the hardware such as super amoled and 4 inch screen.
Ive been searching for my new handset for few days and it's the time to make a decision.
My priority when I consider new smartphone is screen.
After I've used galaxy s, iPhone 4 and omnia 7, I think I will never get htc devices unless they will have amoled, though I like the sense UI. Because Amoled is one of the best screen ( black is real black.)
Google nexus s has super Amoled as well as Nokia N8(just amoled though)
And second priority is map. Nokia n8 has it's an own map app which is called ovi map.
And it works without wifi or 3G data as it's integrated. It's one of the attractiveness for me actually.
in google market, there must be some navigation apps but they are not free and cannot work without data.
Last thing I care of is multimedia function. I don't know if you guys know that Nokia n8 is called camera phone as it has 12 mega pixel camera. While nexus s has only 5 mp.
And Nokia n8 can connect with hdmi on tv as hdmi cable comes with handset when you get it.
What is the advantage for nexus s compared with Nokia n8?
Can anybody give me some answers or advice for me to decide?
Nexus family of products are showcases for the latest Android state. There are a lot of features that are not released with this phone. FM Radio, for instance.
I like to believe that a Nexus is a more geek friendly phone. People who like to thinker with its capabilities. Trying several ROM, etc, etc... In my opinion it's not a consumer phone, per se.
If you are only interest in the final features. Multimedia, camera capabilities, etc... I advise you to look for more friendly consumer products.
Seriously...? Are you comparing an Android phone with a symbian one? Really? No further comment.
All Android phones have Google Navigation and it works beautifully. While the camera quality of the Nexus S isn't as good as the N8, it still works pretty good in my opinion.
Also Symbian is a dying OS. If you haven't noticed Nokia is committing itself to Windows Phone 7 as their primary OS.
And finally the Nexus S is a whole lot faster and "sexier" then the N8
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N8 has the best camera 12mpx with the real xenon flash. Nexus S will have better gaming experience with better 3D graphics.
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Oh I know the OS is dying but not yet. Still they update the firmware every 3 month.
And as I stated the above, I'm not playing game often and I do care of offline map and multimedia features.
I just want to hear you guys from the advantages on Nexus S compare to Nokia n8.
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Oh I know the OS is dying but not yet.
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Riiiiiight... So it isn't already dead for 1 year or so ? Clearly...
And what's up with the hole offline maps thingie ? You've got Maps 5.0+, which has offline caching, vectorized maps and offline re-routing. What the heck do you want more ? And you wish to sacrifice Android just for this ? Really ?
Size of memory and as I said, multimedia function.
Nexus s camera isn't great I read it from the review.
And I like Samsung made hardware but not camera and speaker.
Is there a hdmi port on nexus s?
All the multimedia features on n8 are the strongest attractiveness for me.
If there are something special things on nexus s, please let me know about it.
I had used android phone such as galaxy s and desire hd but I dislike android system as it looks unstable and fast but not too laggy.
The spec, the number of apps and speed are not important for me. The most important thing is if it is suitable for my needs.
Therefore, please give me some feedback from your experience.
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Size of memory and as I said, multimedia function.
Nexus s camera isn't great I read it from the review.
And I like Samsung made hardware but not camera and speaker.
Is there a hdmi port on nexus s?
All the multimedia features on n8 are the strongest attractiveness for me.
If there are something special things on nexus s, please let me know about it.
I had used android phone such as galaxy s and desire hd but I dislike android system as it looks unstable and fast but not too laggy.
The spec, the number of apps and speed are not important for me. The most important thing is if it is suitable for my needs.
Therefore, please give me some feedback from your experience.
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The camera is more than adequate for taking pictures and video, MP is only really good if you want to blow the picture up to 'x' size. 5MP is more than enough for taking snaps.
No HDMI port, never really had any need for one myself, just chuck my files over onto the PC.
' I dislike android system as it looks unstable and fast but not too laggy.'
Really? Then you have made up your mind already! Its far from unstable or laggy. I came from a Nokia phone, it was all I would buy the last 10 years odd. That was until a friend showed me his Android phone. They really are awesome bits of kit. Symbian? Pah, thats so last gen ;-)
If you want a good camera, symbian, ovi maps than choose the n8 but If you want very good software, much apps, android, big screen etc. than go for the nexus s.
Before I start, I'd just like to say that this is just my personal rant and even though some of you may not agree, that's why I'm having this as a discussion thread.
Let's get this started then.
All I see going around XDA are people comparing their own devices to the latest Nexus device and saying 'Should I switch to the Nexus?' or a load of people rimming off the Nexus' as if they're the best thing since sliced bread.
Some of you may wonder why this bothers me. I'll tell you.
Just because a device has the Nexus brand name, it doesn't make it any better than any other phone of equal quality. A hell of a lot of people will see a device is a Nexus and immediately want to get it.
Why would you want to?
If you ask one of those people why a Nexus is so great, they'll say one of three things or a mix of the three.
The reasons are;
1) All Nexus devices look great and have great build quality.
2) It's guaranteed to have great developer support.
3) It's officially supported by Google so it will get the latest Android updates before any other device.
Now, let me tell you my response to each of those points...
1) Most Nexus devices don't look great. The only one which looks good, in my opinion, is the Nexus 7. Apart from that, none of them look any better than other devices around.
2) Yes it will have great developer support, but so do a lot of phones which are already around and have been for ages now. An example of that is the Galaxy S2. It's been around for over a year and a half and it still has more development than most phones do
3) Again, this is true. But they're not the only devices to get the Android updates quickly. This site has a smattering of great developers so it will never take long for other devices to get the latest versions, and you haven't even needed to buy a new phone just to get the latest and greatest.
So with that being said, why buy the latest Nexus device when I'm reality it isn't any better than devices which are already available?
I know some of you may be Nexus fanboys and not agree with anything I've said, but I'm hoping that some of you agree just so I know that I'm not the only person who isn't being hypnotized by the word 'Nexus'.
As I said at the top of this post, I'm leaving this as a discussion so if anyone would like to add anything extra or disagree with what I've said, then you can feel free to do so.
But whatever you do, DON'T TROLL OR FLAME OTHER PEOPLE SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THEM!
Agree with all of the above! I'm getting it to replace my GNex.. it's a better device and I don't need two Nexuses
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True most other phones have similar specs (lol dnt want a nexus 4 anymore)
any suggestions??
My first real Android experience has been with the Nexus S 4G about one year ago today actually... i replaced my iPhone 3GS...
Being my first android experience, i didn't know what android offered until i physically had the phone in my hands... i had it for two weeks before deciding to root it and try out the latest Android at the time, 4.0 ICS... fell in LOVE with my phone after that... i only realized other Carriers/manufacturers added their own version of android after i got used to ICS and started looking for other devices to upgrade to... once i became educated with android, i realized that i got extremely lucky with my first android experience/purchase... because not only were other devices not officially updated to ICS, but the rollout of ICS took a very long time to even start getting stable ports/builds from developers... the skin thing also turned me off from wanting another device...
Simply put, even tho my phone is rooted, i can only vouch for devices that come with pure Google experience as that was my first real android experience... someone will say that you can always root your device and update as developers push out there latest ROMs for other devices... but i can't promote that to my friends/family that don't even know what rooting means (like myself before)...
i strongly promote the Galaxy S3... in fact just yesterday someone posted on Facebook asking if they should get the gs3 or iPhone 5... i was surprised to see out of around 20 replies, only 2 said to get the iPhone 5... i said gs3 but i also mentioned the Nexus 4 and its amazing price point... she looked it up but liked the gs3 look more... today she bought the gs3 because of that and because the N4 isn't available yet...
Before, if anyone asked me what phone to get, I immediately said the gs3 hands down... now my response is Nexus 4... i prefer the sleek/clean look and curved glass of the Nexus devices... the gs3 would be great IMO if it didn't have hard keys like back/home/menu at the bottom... so with that, the N4 looks better to me than any other device out there... i also loved the look of the Gnex... sadly, that one lacked in specs for me to upgrade my ns4g... and sadly the N4 lacks CDMA/LTE support for me to upgrade... now I'm kinda stuck as to what now?
Hope that was a civil response you want in this thread
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FangV said:
True most other phones have similar specs (lol dnt want a nexus 4 anymore)
any suggestions??
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Ask in this thread mate
the1dynasty said:
My first real Android experience has been with the Nexus S 4G about one year ago today actually... i replaced my iPhone 3GS...
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I can understand why some would want the pure Google experience, but there are ROMs which provide an extremely close experience anyway. Plus with the added features they have, it seems like the logical choice to go for custom ROMs, at least in my opinion.
If you use the thread linked above, you'll be able to ask there about what device to get next if you're not too sure.
And yeah, that response was all good
Galaxy S3 was a lot slower and laggy compared to my gnex. Went back to my gnex after a week. I buy the nexus for the pure android. Its smoother, cleaner, quicker and just better.
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Galaxy S3 was a lot slower and laggy compared to my gnex. Went back to my gnex after a week. I buy the nexus for the pure android. Its smoother, cleaner, quicker and just better.
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Yeah.. noticed the same when comparing JB on my S3 to JB on my Nexus..
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Ask in this thread mate
I can understand why some would want the pure Google experience, but there are ROMs which provide an extremely close experience anyway. Plus with the added features they have, it seems like the logical choice to go for custom ROMs, at least in my opinion.
If you use the thread linked above, you'll be able to ask there about what device to get next if you're not too sure.
And yeah, that response was all good
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I know custom ROMs are available for other devices... but the only other phone on my radar was the gs3 but I hated those buttons... i enabled the on screen buttons on my ns4g and my kernel let's me dim the light on the capacitive buttons so its like they're not even there anymore lol... i lost some screen real estate but no biggie really...
I was really looking forward to the next nexus and was really disappointed to hear no CDMA/LTE support being that i have unlimited with Sprint now and I'm gonna be switching to a special unlimited plan with Verizon in a month or so... i really wanted to continue using nexus devices but looks like I'll have to go elsewhere for now... luckily, I'm content with this ns4g being that i got it tuned nearly perfect for good performance... the SD read is still a bit slow tho... i can survive until something wets my appetite again like the N4... or I'll just get the SGS4 if nothing comes out before then...
Btw, I'm on 4.1.2 right now running most apps from 4.2 system dump... so this 2year old phone can even take photosphere, and quite well i might add... no rush to upgrade devices... if rather put that money to getting the Nexus 10
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Another reason is that all of the hardwares of Nexus devices are guaranteed to be open, unlike most Samsung touchwiz devices.
Another one is that new nexus devices are all have insanely low prices as they are subsidized by Google.
Also, now nexus devices have the greatest fastest socs in the market. Just look at nexus 4's S4 pro and nexus 10's Exynos 5.
In response to your opinion,
1. Not all nexus devices have great build quality, especially those ones made by Samsung. But in my opinion, all nexus devices have great design and look. Just look at the nexus 4. It's one of the most gorgeous phones in the planet.
2. For your information, the development of the Galaxy s2 is now dead. Also, the galaxy s3 is almost dead. Those are caused by their closed source drivers.
3. Nexus devices are the first to get the STABLE, latest android version.
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The reason is that the Nexus line keeps choices simple. Also, they don't have bloat (TouchWiz, Sense, etc) - and don't say get an AOSP ROM. I have heard that they are nothing but trouble. I quite like the idea of my tablet looking like it's running the same OS as my phone. And personally, the Nexus 4 is the best looking phone out there IMO, even compared to the iPhone 5 and the Samsung S3 (the style/position of the home button killed that design). I really like the UI design of stock Android too, it's not childish or cutesy looking like the bloat or iOS. I'm into the whole 'sci-fi' theme of it.
Also, looking at most other phones, they generally fall short in certain areas, whereas the Nexus devices as of late are looking relatively well considered. After using a Galaxy Nexus, I despise the current state of AMOLED tech. That rules out almost every Samsung phone under the sun. HTC One Xes supposedly have sucky battery life (plus, Tegra 3 vs a quadcore Snapdragon simply isn't a competition at all), and I've decided that lasting less than 5 hours with the screen on (for any mobile device, tablet, phone, whatever) just isn't good enough anymore.
Tablet-wise, for an Android tablet, there is no comparison to the upcoming Nexus 10. The Note sucks and the Infinity really sucks. The iPad wants you to get into the whole Apple ecosystem with Macs and iPhones to really get the best out of things like iCloud and whatnot, and Mac sucks for software & games.
The only real competitor to a Nexus is Windows 8 and WP8, which both look great (better than Android except for the whole 'Bing' thing) but their ecosystems aren't ready for real use yet. I have to say, the Lumia 920 is packing some awesome technology, and with the winter season coming I would really appreciate the touch screen you can use with gloves on. Not to mention the typical Nokia build quality, plus it seems to have everything covered.
The Nexus phones are the quickest to get updates and don't have any OEM skins or bloatware that is forced on the users. While an AOSP ROM can be ported to any phone in theory, it takes time and there are usually hardware issues due to closed source or unavailable drivers, and also locked bootloaders.
The problem with the Nexus line is its sort of like Apple's devices in the sense that there is limited hardware choice and device's memory can't be expanded. My personal hardware tastes are for a smaller device with no more than a 4.3" screen and it must have a microSD slot. I'll put up with OEM skins, bloatware can be frozen with root, as hardware is more important to me than software. But everyone it entitled to their own opinions and preferences.
Nexus phones do have bloat. Google+, google currents, Google earth, google movies, Google books, etc. All /system apps that can't be removed. Most of them are useless.
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Personally running Slim on my S3 is fast enough for me and my aged brain, any faster and I can't keep up!
Add to that my phone is my main music player hooked up to amp and speakers, I love that I can dual boot to get Samsung best bits(few!)
Not worried about lte
Glass back may be stylish.....but is utterly stupid on a phone.
......I am stupid!.....the reasoning?..... .this is all my opinion, nobody is really interested, and I'm not really interested in theirs......ergot......I MUST be stupid for posting in first place.....
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Nexus phones do have bloat. Google+, google currents, Google earth, google movies, Google books, etc. All /system apps that can't be removed. Most of them are useless.
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Was that your final answer? I use most of those... and last I checked, u can go to the play store and uninstall all of them... don't even need root if I'm not mistaken...
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If you ask one of those people why a Nexus is so great, they'll say one of three things or a mix of the three.
The reasons are;
1) All Nexus devices look great and have great build quality.
2) It's guaranteed to have great developer support.
3) It's officially supported by Google so it will get the latest Android updates before any other device.
Now, let me tell you my response to each of those points...
1) Most Nexus devices don't look great. The only one which looks good, in my opinion, is the Nexus 7. Apart from that, none of them look any better than other devices around.
2) Yes it will have great developer support, but so do a lot of phones which are already around and have been for ages now. An example of that is the Galaxy S2. It's been around for over a year and a half and it still has more development than most phones do
3) Again, this is true. But they're not the only devices to get the Android updates quickly. This site has a smattering of great developers so it will never take long for other devices to get the latest versions, and you haven't even needed to buy a new phone just to get the latest and greatest.
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1) I'll agree not all Nexus look great, though that's a real personal preference thing. I for one, would prefer the Nexus one look over the Nexus s. I currently own a Gnex and I'd be honest in saying it looks alright, but I would like some changes made (Nexus 4, comes close)
2) To be fair, of course the S2 (and noteably other handsets) will have a large dev support, in terms of quantity they sell a lot more than the Nexus family (exception of the Nexus 7, that's the first Nexus priced aggressively)
3) Quick =/= first to get updates. Some people just want the newest FIRST.
I personally choose the nexus because I don't want to be caught with a device that will have a short support life (mentioned above). History shows the Nexus WILL have the most official updates:
Nexus one: Shipped with Eclair, last official version was GB
Nexus S: Shipped with GB, officially supported till Jelly bean
Gnex: Don't know yet, but its gone from ICS to JB.
If you go to dev section, there are even newer (unofficial builds) I don't buy phones every year so I want a phone that will last me 2 years at least.
My friend and I was having a discussion on the Nexus 5 against other smart phones in the current market, and we got on to the discussion on to its features that it has and what other phones don't. I know the nexus 5 was designed with Google in mind but as my friend mentioned I believe you can link your Google up with other phones as well? Or is this Nexus 5 feature? Or are do some features exist on the Nexus 5 that are not available on any other smart phone (android related) through a download?
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LordChristoff said:
My friend and I was having a discussion on the Nexus 5 against other smart phones in the current market, and we got on to the discussion on to its features that it has and what other phones don't. I know the nexus 5 was designed with Google in mind but as my friend mentioned I believe you can link your Google up with other phones as well? Or is this Nexus 5 feature? Or are do some features exist on the Nexus 5 that are not available on any other smart phone (android related) through a download?
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the nexus 5 isnt a phone made for special features to try and sell it. its more or less a developers phone. i guess it has 2 "features" that other android phones dont have. first is hdr+(but other phones have hdr, hdr+ is just better). and the second one is the important one, one that all nexus phones come with that others do not, fastboot oem unlock.
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the nexus 5 isnt a phone made for special features to try and sell it. its more or less a developers phone. i guess it has 2 "features" that other android phones dont have. first is hdr+(but other phones have hdr, hdr+ is just better). and the second one is the important one, one that all nexus phones come with that others do not, fastboot oem unlock.
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I suppose we can also say Photsphere (although there are other versions of this) and GEL (Even though GPE devices get this).
You also get Android system updates instantly.
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You also get Android system updates instantly.
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Yes and no. Not necessarily for root users. We do see commits fixing bugs in AOSP before a Nexus gets a release. So sure, we get the quickest full releases of official updates but some stuff, aosp users on all devices will get before standard n5 users.
I didn't realise this until recently. There was a bug with the window manager on stock where floating windows would not float over other windows. I moved to aosp to get the fix as i was sick of waiting.
Nexus mainly only gets full version releases 4.4.1, 4.4.2 etc but AOSP gets commits that don't increment the version. One benefit of OEM can be as they release fixes for their crappy frameworks, they can also pull fixes from google whilst we're waiting for a new version
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so, it sounds like, most of these "features" of the nexus 5 are more like the benefits of owning a nexus 5
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so, it sounds like, most of these "features" of the nexus 5 are more like the benefits of owning a nexus 5
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Pretty much i guess
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Hello,
I won an LG Q6 phone from a company raffle last year and I just received it today. And I'm lovin' Android. Being an Apple fan ever since iPhone 5 was launched, well it's something different and new. Though, I have no idea how to completely wipe off the device and to install the OS fresh from start just like what I do with iOS. I don't know where to get the latest version every of Android which is Oreo. Right now, I believe I am under the Android Nougat.
I am a mac user, so good thing there's an LG app to update my phone. But just to update my phone though. I am happy with the apps, they're faster than my iPhone 6 Plus. Right now, I am still waiting for the availability of the iPhone X. Though, I have two choices that my phone company has aside from iPhone X. It's either a Samsung Note 8 or a Samsung S8. Seriously, the functionality of apps in Android blew me away, beginning from FB's bubble thingy though annoying, but it's amazing. Even the alarm clock has a feature to draw a pattern before turning it off. And the control center really is an actual control center.
Moving forward, may you please help me out with this? Decision stuff, and with the cyanogen thingy though I do not look forward to root my device, maybe after the warranty expires, it's like jailbreak thingy right? How about just by using the official releases the OS from the manufacturer? I am a bit familiar with this as I used to update the firmware of my Sony Ericsson W800i before and my BlackBerry Curve too.
I'll be waiting for the reply of everyone. Also, I prefer using macOS. Yet, I think I really prefer to use Android as my phone. Seriously. Though I hope it integrates well with my mac.
Another thing, I would like guides about cases for Android phones and screen protectors, as well as memory card guides (don't have this on iOS devices).
Thanks.
Go for the Note mate and never look back