Which phablet 6 - 7 inches should I get? - General Questions and Answers

I need a good phablet for my father, a big one.
spec I want:
Screen: minimum FHD, 6-7 inch
Ram: minimum 2GB
Android: minimum Lollipop
CPU: 4 cores of minimum 2ghz or 8 cores of 1.7 minimum
Price: 180-300 USD
Brand: Any brand, but no the the cheap chinese phones (doggee, iPoan... you know what I mean)
Any ideas?

DanielDEV said:
I need a good phablet for my father, a big one.
spec I want:
Screen: minimum FHD, 6-7 inch
Ram: minimum 2GB
Android: minimum Lollipop
CPU: 4 cores of minimum 2ghz or 8 cores of 1.7 minimum
Price: 180-300 USD
Brand: Any brand, but no the the cheap chinese phones (doggee, iPoan... you know what I mean)
Any ideas?
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nexus 6

bweN diorD said:
nexus 6
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Thanks!
Isn't it a bit "old"? (so as the hardware)

DanielDEV said:
Thanks!
Isn't it a bit "old"? (so as the hardware)
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i doubt you will find something newer unless its off brand crap.
i have a n6, and imo, its a great phone.
you want something new and big with great specs, i doubt its going to come in your price range.
there isnt a lot to choose from in the 6+ range from the reputable manufacturers. thats why i havent upgraded.
i pretty much upgrade whenever i want, and i have thought that the majority of phones i have had were great, but this is the first time i have like a phone so much i dont want to upgrade.

bweN diorD said:
i doubt you will find something newer unless its off brand crap.
i have a n6, and imo, its a great phone.
you want something new and big with great specs, i doubt its going to come in your price range.
there isnt a lot to choose from in the 6+ range from the reputable manufacturers. thats why i havent upgraded.
i pretty much upgrade whenever i want, and i have thought that the majority of phones i have had were great, but this is the first time i have like a phone so much i dont want to upgrade.
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Thanks man, guess I'll get that!

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[Q] ZTE U950, worth buying?

This phone has a Tegra 3 and 1GB for less than 200 bucks, so its pretty cool
But it has a 800x480 screen and a 5mp camera, don't know if that is a bottleneck but I will notice the lack of pixels
This hits me as odd since even phones packing a MTK6577 have 720p screens and 8mp cameras now
Then theres the new leak of the Tegra 4, due to be shown next month in CES, and I feel is going to throw the Tegra 3 in the same hole the Tegra 2 is now
Of course I guess it will take a year for a Tegra 4 phone to be this cheap, but then theres the new 6588, a quadcore MTK chip with a Mali400 GPU, and the 6577 is not a bad chip, much better than I expect it to be, and looks to be already out and might be cheaper than the Tegra 3
I'm sort in cash right now I can't afford to just buy a new phone if mine goes even slightly obsolete, I don't need the best of the best just a phone that can run demanding apps a year and a half from now without being unusable-slow. Other phones with Tegra3 are far too expensive unlocked, I can't afford those.
From antutu benchmarks it seems the Tegra3 is more powerful than the dual and quad MTK chips, and theres the "optimized for tegra" part some games have that make them look better than even better chips, and being a gamer that matters a lot to me.
But with a crappy screen does the ZTE ruins the whole experience?
If you have any suggestions go ahead, just mind I'm not in the US nor Europe so no offers that are only available there
is worth buying dude, order urs now while it still have.... this is the cheapest quad core mobile, u cannot find this kind of price with 4 core CPU ..... if u mind the screen resolution, then why not u add up ur budget and buy a better one ???? ... i got U985, U950 will be my next babe ..... IF u worry about the performance for zte u950 with wgat u call "crappy screen" than pls dun buy, ... just easy as that .... right ???
where to buy
desmondtee88 said:
is worth buying dude, order urs now while it still have.... this is the cheapest quad core mobile, u cannot find this kind of price with 4 core CPU ..... if u mind the screen resolution, then why not u add up ur budget and buy a better one ???? ... i got U985, U950 will be my next babe ..... IF u worry about the performance for zte u950 with wgat u call "crappy screen" than pls dun buy, ... just easy as that .... right ???
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where to buy it cheapest n most reliable????

Best tablet for the money under these circumstances...

I've read a few threads already about how the nexus 7 is the absolute best choice among all tables for the price to performance ratio... I'm sure it is, I will not disagree with you... My problem is I do not want a 7 inch tablet. I want a 10 inch one. Or at least a much larger one than 7 inches. I also do not want to spend 500$ for a good tablet, I'm not rich nor do I have enough money to save for a 400 or 500$ tablet. My max price is about 250, somewhere in that range... Thusbisbwhy I've referred to Chinese non brand tablets... I've read through many boards and have pretty much came across the 3 tablets to be the best. Please let me know if they are good decisions or if I should be looking up another tablet.
The ones I've found are: pipo max m9, cube g30gt2, and the primal p9x.
Is there anything I should know before thinking of these tablets as my choice? Or should I be looking at a different one. They all seem to have decent quad cores with 2gb of ram, but the primal has a better quad core, the cube has a really high res screen, and the pipo seems to be a decent one for the price with the same specs as the cube but with a lower screen res.
Please help me out!
Bump!
Sgad said:
I've read a few threads already about how the nexus 7 is the absolute best choice among all tables for the price to performance ratio... I'm sure it is, I will not disagree with you... My problem is I do not want a 7 inch tablet. I want a 10 inch one. Or at least a much larger one than 7 inches. I also do not want to spend 500$ for a good tablet, I'm not rich nor do I have enough money to save for a 400 or 500$ tablet. My max price is about 250, somewhere in that range... Thusbisbwhy I've referred to Chinese non brand tablets... I've read through many boards and have pretty much came across the 3 tablets to be the best. Please let me know if they are good decisions or if I should be looking up another tablet.
The ones I've found are: pipo max m9, cube g30gt2, and the primal p9x.
Is there anything I should know before thinking of these tablets as my choice? Or should I be looking at a different one. They all seem to have decent quad cores with 2gb of ram, but the primal has a better quad core, the cube has a really high res screen, and the pipo seems to be a decent one for the price with the same specs as the cube but with a lower screen res.
Please help me out!
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Might also be of interest for you: a russian tablet
http://www.iconbit.com/catalog/tablets/iconbit_nettab_space_iii/
Affordable price.
Looking at that, it is nice, but I don't see a price anywhere. I even googled it and couldn't find it. Nor could I find any reviews on youtube about it. Thanks for the suggestion, I just need to be able to look further into it before I heavily consider it.
Anyone else?
The Nettab Space III costs ~ € 300. The accurately identically constructed Xoro PAD 9718 DR costs € 200.
Yeah, 300 euro is much more than I intend to spend...
Sgad said:
Yeah, 300 euro is much more than I intend to spend...
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In case you are still reading this thread, I just received a Primal P9x and am very satisfied with it. In fact I am typing this very post on it
I am hoping someone here at xda may begin developing for it, its a very worthwhile device. I am tempted to see if other exynos 4412 based roms might work on it. The apk a member here made for rooting exynos 4412 devices worked on this too.
I recommend it highly.
I got my primal p9x the other day and am very happy with it. It took almost a month to ship it from china to the us. It looks like there is only one supplier selling it. So if you want a good cheap tablet and are patient, I would say go ahead and order one.
I have seen very little information on this table on the next and its quad core Samsung Exynos processor in this tablet.
I was able to successfully root it using the Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v15.zip
AximUser08 said:
I got my primal p9x the other day and am very happy with it. It took almost a month to ship it from china to the us. It looks like there is only one supplier selling it. So if you want a good cheap tablet and are patient, I would say go ahead and order one.
I have seen very little information on this table on the next and its quad core Samsung Exynos processor in this tablet.
I was able to successfully root it using the Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v15.zip
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servo386 said:
In case you are still reading this thread, I just received a Primal P9x and am very satisfied with it. In fact I am typing this very post on it
I am hoping someone here at xda may begin developing for it, its a very worthwhile device. I am tempted to see if other exynos 4412 based roms might work on it. The apk a member here made for rooting exynos 4412 devices worked on this too.
I recommend it highly.
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I got my P9x today as well and was quite pleased with it to start with (cf Cube U30GT-H it was replacing). Mine only has 1GB of Internal Storage when the specs say it should have 2GB. Towards the end of the day I noticed some issues with screen resolution (battery was low so I wonder???). It is cheap but is it too cheap?
Update - I used Chainfire's Exynos Abuse to root and patch the tablet and played around with the DPI settings 120, 160, 240... I am now using DPI 160 and the screen issues I had seem to be gone. It looks better with DPI 120 but I can't open settings in this mode.

Basic Bear by Techdy (Cheap & Powerful)

A random China company called Techdy made a "budget" iPhone which was SAID to be exactly what Apple's Budget iPhone would look like some time in the year (2013) ... Problem is, the specs stated there like an Qualcomm® Snapdragon 800 processor, 2GB of RAM and even, an IPS Backlit display all costing at $199, is too hard to believe to me.. Any ideas whether i shld buy this device? I'm scared that it suddenly got an MTK6589 processor in it -.-"
Part of me really wants this device lol, looks pretty nice.

received my xiaomi m3 Millet 3 smart phone.

today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
bluelover1986 said:
today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
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I love Xiaomi I have a M2S and is a great pone. How do you find the size is not to big? congratulations for your amazing Phone !
real iphone killer
cmesa said:
I love Xiaomi I have a M2S and is a great pone. How do you find the size is not to big? congratulations for your amazing Phone !
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i like this 5 inch phone ,it is great price.best phone Configuration,i think xiaomi phone will be the real iphone killer
I really want to buy one of these. But I can't afford the $500+ price tag. I tried to buy one from xiaomi.com but after signing up, i couldn't verify my phone number to complete an order (I assume only China phone numbers work for verification). :what:
I wish I knew someone who lives in China and could buy one at the local price (<$400) for me and ship it to me in the U.S.
I guesses I'll have to settle for an over-priced MI2S instead.
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i recommend one store to sale xiaomi phone
ExpletiveDeleted001 said:
I really want to buy one of these. But I can't afford the $500+ price tag. I tried to buy one from xiaomi.com but after signing up, i couldn't verify my phone number to complete an order (I assume only China phone numbers work for verification). :what:
I wish I knew someone who lives in China and could buy one at the local price (<$400) for me and ship it to me in the U.S.
I guesses I'll have to settle for an over-priced MI2S instead.
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hi, i recommend one store to sale xiaomi phone,i bought xiaomi 2 phone from this store,it is very good phone and service.you can see the link. i found the 32g version xiaomi 2s phone are very good price.
http://www.achinaseller.com/cellpho...reen-8MP-13MP-NEWEST-XIAOMI-2S-smartphone.htm
bluelover1986 said:
today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
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That spec sheet would have been so much better with just 1 more GB of RAM.
bluelover1986 said:
hi, i recommend one store to sale xiaomi phone,i bought xiaomi 2 phone from this store,it is very good phone and service.you can see the link. i found the 32g version xiaomi 2s phone are very good price.
http://www.achinaseller.com/cellpho...reen-8MP-13MP-NEWEST-XIAOMI-2S-smartphone.htm
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I want to buy this phone, can you provide us with a mini review and how is the build quality ?
alififi said:
i think xiaomi phone will be the real iphone killer
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yes.me too
perfact phone with best price
hamdir said:
I want to buy this phone, can you provide us with a mini review and how is the build quality ?
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many people like xiaomi phone now. it is new great company like apple . this xiaomi phone 2s are very good .and the quality is also good.the best is price. use highest phone configration and offer lowest price now. i strongly recommend xiaomi phone. i bought it from this store in the past.you can check this link. if you like this phone.you can buy one.i am sure you will love it.
http://www.achinaseller.com/cellpho...reen-8MP-13MP-NEWEST-XIAOMI-2S-smartphone.htm
bluelover1986 said:
many people like xiaomi phone now. it is new great company like apple . this xiaomi phone 2s are very good .and the quality is also good.the best is price. use highest phone configration and offer lowest price now. i strongly recommend xiaomi phone. i bought it from this store in the past.you can check this link. if you like this phone.you can buy one.i am sure you will love it.
http://www.achinaseller.com/cellpho...reen-8MP-13MP-NEWEST-XIAOMI-2S-smartphone.htm
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any reviews of this phone? its tempting..
I am getting this from $210 from chinise website aliexpress.com. Is it real or fake...link is http://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesa...xt=xiaomi+m3&CatId=5090301&SortType=price_asc
please reply guys I am in big confusion
dks.worldkumar said:
I am getting this from $210 from chinise website aliexpress.com. Is it real or fake...link is http://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesa...xt=xiaomi+m3&CatId=5090301&SortType=price_asc
please reply guys I am in big confusion
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for this price it can't be original
vhl71 said:
any reviews of this phone? its tempting..
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Did they ship the phone from China?
bluelover1986 said:
today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
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Where did you buy from? I can only see a 16gb version from the xiaomi website? I need this phone!
I've seen a lot of people complaining that they received fake phones form aliexpress. just do a quick search and you'll probably see them.
Xiaomi itself doesn't sell or ship the phone out of china, but there's some online stores that sell it and ship it worldwide.
I've seen people recommending ibuygou.com and they have some awesome prices. When it's available again I'll probably buy it.
If anyone that has bought it could talk a bit about it and where/how you bought it I would be very thankful.
bluelover1986 said:
today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
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Only NVIDIA Tegra 4
bluelover1986 said:
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
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AFAIK they have two versions for the CPU, but NOT two CPUs in a single device.
Eishiro said:
I've seen people recommending ibuygou.com and they have some awesome prices. When it's available again I'll probably buy it.
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well, i'll keep u posted. i've ordered on IBG site two hongmi phones (international wcdma version) just yesterday. if everything goes right, i'd be the proud owner of those jewels in a week or so, by DHL courier 30 bucks transport. fingers crossed! :fingers-crossed:
any hope of GFXBenchmark for the s800 version?
dks.worldkumar said:
I am getting this from $210 from chinise website aliexpress.com. Is it real or fake...link is http://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesa...xt=xiaomi+m3&CatId=5090301&SortType=price_asc
please reply guys I am in big confusion
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Be carefull everything low prise with MTK proceessor usually called HTM M3 , is a replica from the real thing,...
the Xaiomi - Millet MI3 is availible right now from ca. 300 euro ( 412 $ ) on this link you posted from Aliexpress
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bluelover1986 said:
today we got xiaomi 3 phone now.it is
Dual CPU Platform :Qualcomm 800 quad core 2.3GHz NVIDIA Tegra 4 quad core 1.8ghz
2GB DDR3 RAM ROM 64GB
5.0 inch IPS Retina 1080p
3050MAH big battery
13m camera
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CAN YOU DO Video recording in 90 fps like on the MI 2s or even better in 120 fps on the Samsung Note 3 (& phone 5s with that apple sign) , i can not believe MIUI Xiaomi left this feature away climbing from Mi2s to Mi3!!!!!!!!!!!
please guys all of you who have there MI3 already check , and reply to me, I want to buy the MI3 but there is no chance for me to test and have it in my hands before to check myself :angel:

I want a tablet

HI all, how's everyone? not been back for some time,
I need some help from you guys if possible.
I want a tablet, my partner has an ipad mini, I like it, long battery life, clear and cool to the touch, (ie don't get too warm on long usage)
Can anyone recommend me something?
I have made my own (very brief short list)
Lenovo Yoga
Xiaomi Mipad,
Pipo P8
Fire 7.7
My criteria is this,
7.9-8.9 inch screen
4:3 format.
stable Os,
ideally full android, so not sure if the fire can be rooted.
quad core, and can hold its own when running any intense apps.
won't get too hot when on long usage.
long battery life,
if possible 2Gb ram,
if no MMC expansion then need at least 32Gb
no more than £200, and as per my list, will look into oversea models
I do like the nexus 9, but out of my budget any other suggestions.
will-i-am1977 said:
HI all, how's everyone? not been back for some time,
I need some help from you guys if possible.
I want a tablet, my partner has an ipad mini, I like it, long battery life, clear and cool to the touch, (ie don't get too warm on long usage)
Can anyone recommend me something?
I have made my own (very brief short list)
Lenovo Yoga
Xiaomi Mipad,
Pipo P8
Fire 7.7
My criteria is this,
7.9-8.9 inch screen
4:3 format.
stable Os,
ideally full android, so not sure if the fire can be rooted.
quad core, and can hold its own when running any intense apps.
won't get too hot when on long usage.
long battery life,
if possible 2Gb ram,
if no MMC expansion then need at least 32Gb
no more than £200, and as per my list, will look into oversea models
I do like the nexus 9, but out of my budget any other suggestions.
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Mipad best bang for buck, infact, the price and the specs you get are bloody brilliant! Really really great value, I don't know how Xiaomi get away with it
Its about £230 (some places £180 but + import tax could be more, I say use EBay because you have buyer protection etc) I'm looking into buying the Mipad myself, (I currently have an LG G Pad, heavily mod'd)
The only downside (which is to be expected) is the OS on the Mipad MIUI (on Xiaomi phones Mi2 Mi3 Mi4 its great, but on thus Mipad its half finished, buggy etc.)
But hey I enjoy a challenge
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Lenovo Yoga 8 is very good. Quad-Core, Android 4.2 Operating System, Battery Life – Up to 18 Hours, but if you want to play games with a higher experience, I would recommend you another game tablet (JXD S7800B), 7.0 inches, quad core.
will-i-am1977 said:
HI all, how's everyone? not been back for some time,
I need some help from you guys if possible.
I want a tablet, my partner has an ipad mini, I like it, long battery life, clear and cool to the touch, (ie don't get too warm on long usage)
Can anyone recommend me something?
I have made my own (very brief short list)
Lenovo Yoga
Xiaomi Mipad,
Pipo P8
Fire 7.7
My criteria is this,
7.9-8.9 inch screen
4:3 format.
stable Os,
ideally full android, so not sure if the fire can be rooted.
quad core, and can hold its own when running any intense apps.
won't get too hot when on long usage.
long battery life,
if possible 2Gb ram,
if no MMC expansion then need at least 32Gb
no more than £200, and as per my list, will look into oversea models
I do like the nexus 9, but out of my budget any other suggestions.
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I actually would recommend you the iPad Mini 3, because it's almost matching all your requirements except that it is iOS.
Apple will really ensure that you're requirements will be finished.!
will-i-am1977 said:
HI all, how's everyone? not been back for some time,
I need some help from you guys if possible.
I want a tablet, my partner has an ipad mini, I like it, long battery life, clear and cool to the touch, (ie don't get too warm on long usage)
Can anyone recommend me something?
I have made my own (very brief short list)
Lenovo Yoga
Xiaomi Mipad,
Pipo P8
Fire 7.7
My criteria is this,
7.9-8.9 inch screen
4:3 format.
stable Os,
ideally full android, so not sure if the fire can be rooted.
quad core, and can hold its own when running any intense apps.
won't get too hot when on long usage.
long battery life,
if possible 2Gb ram,
if no MMC expansion then need at least 32Gb
no more than £200, and as per my list, will look into oversea models
I do like the nexus 9, but out of my budget any other suggestions.
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Lenovo Yoga - Good price and quality
not buy Xiaomi Mipad, because after using it a period , you'll find it's slack no longer
FloydPual said:
not buy Xiaomi Mipad, because after using it a period , you'll find it's slack no longer
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What do you mean?
LiamAtkins90 said:
What do you mean?
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Why not iPad Mini 3 it's damn good
Bink Feed said:
Why not iPad Mini 3 it's damn good
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I just don't like IOS bro, Evan if IOS was light years ahead of Android in terms of raw power, I would never go the apple side lol
LiamAtkins90 said:
I just don't like IOS bro, Evan if IOS was light years ahead of Android in terms of raw power, I would never go the apple side lol
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But it's about him!
Did you choose your tablet ?
I am interested because I also want an 8" tablet to use mainly as an ebook reader ...
Noticed that dealsprime has a "youtube promo" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfZ28bH8bXE : free pouch) on the pipo p8 and that there is apparently good rom support for it on http://www.freaktab.com/forumdisplay.php?166-Current-Pipo-ROMs ...
pierro78 said:
Did you choose your tablet ?
I am interested because I also want an 8" tablet to use mainly as an ebook reader ...
Noticed that dealsprime has a "youtube promo" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfZ28bH8bXE : free pouch) on the pipo p8 and that there is apparently good rom support for it on http://www.freaktab.com/forumdisplay.php?166-Current-Pipo-ROMs ...
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For an EBook type of device I would suggest the Tesco Hudl 2
I know what your thinking.... No way dude!!
But I was surprised at how good this piece of kit is for like £120.
Quad core, Intel, full HD, the casing around the tablet isn't pretty but its great specs for the price.
Sent from N5
LiamAtkins90 said:
For an EBook type of device I would suggest the Tesco Hudl 2
I know what your thinking.... No way dude!!
But I was surprised at how good this piece of kit is for like £120.
Quad core, Intel, full HD, the casing around the tablet isn't pretty but its great specs for the price.
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I've just ordered the lenovo tab s8-50 http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/lenovo-s8-s8-50-tablet-support-t2924127 which specs look very similar (except lighter) ... 161E today at rueducommerce which is around 128GBP ...
springning said:
Lenovo Yoga 8 is very good. Quad-Core, Android 4.2 Operating System, Battery Life – Up to 18 Hours, but if you want to play games with a higher experience, I would recommend you another game tablet (JXD S7800B), 7.0 inches, quad core.
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Not all quad core is good.this machine uses MTK8382 which is a very slow quad core machine.
And It's pretty Energy Hungry,It only could go on up to 10-12Hr.
Also RK3188?No please.A Allwinner A31 could win the RK3188...
2,I would not like to suggest the lenovo one is the warranty service.If your machine have something and you take it to the service centre,the day it fixed you will get "another machine".
^What i mean,A more worse machine.
Asus HD8 is a good choice for you:
- Cheap
- Long batery

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