Anker PowerCore+ 20100 USB-C External Battery available for order for $69.99 - Nexus 6P Accessories

http://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Ultra-Compact-VoltageBoost-Technology/dp/B014ZO46LK
USB-C port charging at 5V/2.4A not 3A
Edit: I received this email from Anker today: "Thank you for getting back to us.
We would like to help you confirm the information. The output current of the external battery is 6A, Here are the specific output current information.
One USB C output port: 3A Two Power iq output port: 3A for two ports.
Meanwhile, please be noted that one USB-C port in the external battery is both output port and input port. When you use the port to recharge itself, the input current is 2.4A. When you use the port to charge other device, it's output 3A.
Please let us know if you need any other help. Thank you!"
So it's looks like the USB-C port output is 3A

fail ...........

Is that the current rating for a macbook? Doesn't really specify the exact outputs...

The photo on Amazon seems to shows a MacBook being connected to a Type-A port on the Anker. The actual cable goes off the screen, but that's what is implied.
The description on Amazon says that the Anker comes with a Type-A to Type-C cable and a Type-A to micro-B cable. It does not come with a TYpe-C to Type-C cable or a charger.
Based on this, it seems like the type-C port is only for charging the Anker itself. The OUTPUTS on the Anker are the two Type-A ports. Hopefully my assumptions are wrong. Hopefully the Type-C port on this guy is capable of power transfer in both directions.

Got my RAVPower a couple weeks ago and has USB-C 5V at 3A and QC2.0 output for 36$. Don't have my 6P yet to try but RAVPower is solid. I'll check it out then.

Just an FYI, I called Anker support yesterday and they confirmed the USB C output is 5V/2.4A. Could still be an error but not encouraging.

Would really like some clear answers from Anker, pity their website still says coming soon for this product. really limiting.
I'd jump the gun and get it and report back, but given I'm down under, shopping cost and time would make my efforts kind of redundant....anyone keen to do it in the continental US? I'd even kick in $10 towards the confirmation cause.

yeah, honestly glad I snagged the RAVpower. More options on how to charge other devices AND more options on how to charge the battery itself

RAVPower can offer 5V/3A. That one will be more great.

Update says output from Anker's is indeed 3A like we need, what are you guys missing?
Also, ravpower says 2.4 output so why is that one better? Am I looking at the wrong model?

MYxdaUSERNAME said:
Update says output from Anker's is indeed 3A like we need, what are you guys missing?
Also, ravpower says 2.4 output so why is that one better? Am I looking at the wrong model?
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That 2.4 on the ravpower is the Qualcomm quick charge port not the USB-C port. I've got the ravpower in hand and its printed on it that it's 3A in and out from the USB-C. And it's been verified as compliant by the Google engineer

crazyg0od33 said:
That 2.4 on the ravpower is the Qualcomm quick charge port not the USB-C port. I've got the ravpower in hand and its printed on it that it's 3A in and out from the USB-C. And it's been verified as compliant by the Google engineer
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I got a question here, since type c port supports input and output, when i connects 2 type c port on power banks, which one will be charged, and which one will be discharged?

feihu989 said:
I got a question here, since type c port supports input and output, when i connects 2 type c port on power banks, which one will be charged, and which one will be discharged?
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well this one charges the phone and only charges itself via USB-C if plugged into the wall or another charging device. I'm not sure how it knows, but it charges my phone with no issues and no extra steps

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Anker Astro E7: 3A support for Nexus 6P?

The Anker Astro E7 is a 26,800mAh external battery that claims 4A over it's three usb ports or up to 3.5A on a single port. Would the 6P charge at 3A with this battery? I don't know if 3A charging is exclusive to USB-C or would it work with the USB-A-to-USB-C short cable that comes with the 6P.
http://www.ianker.com/product/A1210022
Compared to Anker's newer PowerCore+ batteries, which DOES have a USB-C port, BUT is limited to 2.4A per port. One 'improvement' of the PowerCore is support for 5v, 9V, and 12V while I think the Astro is good only for 5V. This may be important to charge a chromebook over usb-c, but not relevant for the Nexus.
http://www.ianker.com/product/A1372011
No it won't. I have a 5V/4A charger and tested 3 approved cables (2 Google and iroange A-C) and it peaks at 1.5A
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No it won't. I have a 5V/4A charger and tested 3 approved cables (2 Google and iroange A-C) and it peaks at 1.5A
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Yup can confirm this too as I have the same charger and used the same 2 cables
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1.5A? That is horrible. I have another Anker battery that claims 2.1A out of one port and with my portapow usb monitor, I see only about 1.5A too. Then I tried it with an anker 6-port charger that claims 2.4A per port and I still only get around 1.5A.
Anker claims the Astro E7 can support 3.5A out from a single port and I would like to see this mythical usb-a device that supports that.
I wonder what is at fault: the battery/charger, the usb measuring device, the usb-a to usb-c cable (stock google short one), or the phone itself (maybe it knows it's not a usb-c to usb-c cable and thus limits the charging rate so not to damage the potential computer it's connected to?)
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1.5A? That is horrible. I have another Anker battery that claims 2.1A out of one port and with my portapow usb monitor, I see only about 1.5A too. Then I tried it with an anker 6-port charger that claims 2.4A per port and I still only get around 1.5A.
Anker claims the Astro E7 can support 3.5A out from a single port and I would like to see this mythical usb-a device that supports that.
I wonder what is at fault: the battery/charger, the usb measuring device, the usb-a to usb-c cable (stock google short one), or the phone itself (maybe it knows it's not a usb-c to usb-c cable and thus limits the charging rate so not to damage the potential computer it's connected to?)
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In the case of legacy charging ports, the negotiation is pretty limited and confined to legacy specs. The phone detects a legacy USB port (due to the in-spec cable being used) and uses the USB Battery Charge 2.1 protocol to negotiate for power. The phone says "I would like 5V at up to 1.5A" and the battery says "I can supply 5V at 1.5A" and so you get 5V at 1.5A.
If either battery had a USB-C port on it, and that port were rated for [email protected], where the phone could negotiate for 3A of current using the CC (configuration channel) pins/wires, then the conversation would change. It would go something like this: The Phone and Battery both see an active CC wire, they detect the orientation of the cable, then all kinds of communications and identifications of port and cable occurs between the two, wherein the phone says "I would like 5V at 3A please" and the battery pack says "Happy to oblige! How is your day going?". The Phone says "Been a rough day."
Then let's say you plug in a USB-A device, and the battery says "Hey Phone, I need to balance power - I can only supply 1.5A now" and the phone says "Sounds good to me, switching to 1.5A charging now". The battery, being the polite chap that it is, replies with "So very kind of you! Now I won't overtax myself. You are a gentleman and a scholar." The phone says "I know." ... and all is well with the universe.
As I'm sure you can plainly see, USB-C is much more civilized.
Or (as I understand it), you could intentionally buy an out of spec cable (one that indicates 3A instead of legacy). The 6P would then attempt to draw 3A from a port rated at 3.5A, and likely happily charge at 3A.
*Of course you should never use this cable with anything other than the battery above, or you may damage things, use at your own risk.
**I'm also sure someone will tell you that getting 3A out of a device rated at 3.5A is clearly impossible. 3.5A is clearly out of spec, which only allows for up to 2.4A in certain cases.

Any way for USB-C charger and CC cable to get approved?

I'm looking for a USB-C plug for my Nexus 6P. There are so few on the market and I would like to try one.
http://www.amazon.com/Charging-Qualcomm-Certified-Supported-included/dp/B017I7EX46/
Anybody tried this charger and cc cable? Reviews say it works pretty well, but is there any tool like CheckR to test and approve the usb-c plug and cable? This might be important to note, due to the whole fiasco with the cables which would damage the phone/charger due to incorrect build. Benson Leung only tests AC cables as far as I know.
While there is the potential for a USB C charger and cable to not be powerful enough to meet the 3amp charging spec, a type C to C cable is unlikely to fail to be compliant in the same way as the A to C cables are.
The A to C cables were mostly non compliant as they were being identified as being compatible with the USB C spec and thus being able to supply 3amps of power, whereas in reality cables/chargers with type A connectors max out at 2.4 amps or in most cases a lot less.
A-C cables required a 56K resistor, but most companies initially used a 10K one which was the issue. C-C cables don't need a resistor the way that the A-C ones do,so they should all be compliant from what I understand.
Azarin said:
While there is the potential for a USB C charger and cable to not be powerful enough to meet the 3amp charging spec, a type C to C cable is unlikely to fail to be compliant in the same way as the A to C cables are.
The A to C cables were mostly non compliant as they were being identified as being compatible with the USB C spec and thus being able to supply 3amps of power, whereas in reality cables/chargers with type A connectors max out at 2.4 amps or in most cases a lot less.
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I have been looking at the end chotech charger on amazon for 2 days now trying to figure out if it's OK or not since it's not on the Benson list of approved chargers.
Are you saying that if you get a charger like the one in the original posters link that has a USB c port you'll be fine because there is no USB A cable in the equation?
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jimmiekain said:
I have been looking at the end chotech charger on amazon for 2 days now trying to figure out if it's OK or not since it's not on the Benson list of approved chargers.
Are you saying that if you get a charger like the one in the original posters link that has a USB c port you'll be fine because there is no USB A cable in the equation?
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It should be fine as long as it only supports 5V/3(like the Choetech does) and not a different quick charging method like QC 2.0/3.0.
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It should be fine as long as it only supports 5V/3(like the Choetech does) and not a different quick charging method like QC 2.0/3.0.
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Sounds great I'm ordering it right now.
One more question, I found a C 2 C cable and it's 3Meters long. Does the length of the cable matter?
Here's the one I'm looking at https://goo.gl/photos/jEYvVABFZFPy2B2g9
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It should be fine as long as it only supports 5V/3(like the Choetech does) and not a different quick charging method like QC 2.0/3.0.
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Even if it supports Qualcomm's QuickCharge, isn't part of the QC spec that there's a chip inside the charger to identify QC-capable devices and otherwise act as a 'normal' charger?
I would think so long as it supports 5V/3A you would be fine no matter what other standard it supports.
Here's a link to a google doc that details cables and charges that have been tested. It says if the item is compliant or not.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0
jimmiekain said:
Sounds great I'm ordering it right now.
One more question, I found a C 2 C cable and it's 3Meters long. Does the length of the cable matter?
Here's the one I'm looking at https://goo.gl/photos/jEYvVABFZFPy2B2g9
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I don't see an issue, but keep in mine that longer cables could have a current drop due to increased resistance over the length. It shouldn't be a huge amount so I wouldn't worry about it. I use the Google 6ft C-C cable and get the full 3A when my battery is below 40%.
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Even if it supports Qualcomm's QuickCharge, isn't part of the QC spec that there's a chip inside the charger to identify QC-capable devices and otherwise act as a 'normal' charger?
I would think so long as it supports 5V/3A you would be fine no matter what other standard it supports.
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That's correct, but I don't want to fully recommend something that could cause an issue. I have a charger with QC 3.0 over the Type-C port and I have 0 issues using it. It still violates the USB standard to have QC 2.0/3.0 over a Type-C port, but that doesn't mean it won't work. It works, but could potentially cause an issue at some point. I can link you the post by Benson Leung along with the appropriate USB standard if you need it.
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That's correct, but I don't want to fully recommend something that could cause an issue. I have a charger with QC 3.0 over the Type-C port and I have 0 issues using it. It still violates the USB standard to have QC 2.0/3.0 over a Type-C port, but that doesn't mean it won't work. It works, but could potentially cause an issue at some point. I can link you the post by Benson Leung along with the appropriate USB standard if you need it.
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By any chance have you tested this one?
USB Type C Wall Charger, Tronsmart 33W Dual USB Turbo Wall Charger with Quick Charge 3.0 Technology for Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X (5V/3A)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019C23ZGW
Still waiting to receive mine. Obviously it's not up to spec because of the type-c + QC 3.0 standard on the same port but hopefully it works fine. And I also really want that extra type A port and foldable pins. I'm also thinking of getting a Robin when it comes out which uses type-C but with QC 2.0.
rndll said:
By any chance have you tested this one?
USB Type C Wall Charger, Tronsmart 33W Dual USB Turbo Wall Charger with Quick Charge 3.0 Technology for Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X (5V/3A)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019C23ZGW
Still waiting to receive mine. Obviously it's not up to spec because of the type-c + QC 3.0 standard on the same port but hopefully it works fine. And I also really want that extra type A port and foldable pins. I'm also thinking of getting a Robin when it comes out which uses type-C but with QC 2.0.
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I haven't tested that charger, but I do have the exact same model with 2 Type-A ports instead of 1 A and 1 C. Maybe Tronsmart will send me one to test out You can see a review of the version I have in my signature (last link that's says Tronsmart Titan). I have their car charger which also has the same voltages over the Type-C port and it charges my 6P just fine even though its technically not in spec.
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I haven't tested that charger, but I do have the exact same model with 2 Type-A ports instead of 1 A and 1 C. Maybe Tronsmart will send me one to test out You can see a review of the version I have in my signature (last link that's says Tronsmart Titan). I have their car charger which also has the same voltages over the Type-C port and it charges my 6P just fine even though its technically not in spec.
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Yeah saw that when you first posted it. I've had other Tronsmart chargers and cables before. I also bought the Titan when it first came out too and they haven't failed or anything yet. I'm just a little cautious since type-C is new. Hopefully Tronsmart sends you the wall charger to test. I won't get mine for a few weeks due to international shipping and everything.
I've got the Choetech C to C charger and cable. Would recommend it without any hesitation. Build quality is on par with the stock charger, but nothing more. It's not braided or anything, so it's a normal cable with a normal charger
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Yeah saw that when you first posted it. I've had other Tronsmart chargers and cables before. I also bought the Titan when it first came out too and they haven't failed or anything yet. I'm just a little cautious since type-C is new. Hopefully Tronsmart sends you the wall charger to test. I won't get mine for a few weeks due to international shipping and everything.
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I guess we will see what happens. The Titan is a beast, but I can't use the full potential is has with 2 phones. The wall charger should work fine if it's anything like their car charger.

wall charger

hey guys
i had a nexus 6 and have a bunch of QC 2.0 chargers
now that i have a 6P, can i still use the wall adapters and plug in a full size usb to usb 3 cable into the wall adapter?
does the wattage of the adapter work? or should i look to buy a new one with a usb c port
thanks
It'll charge, but not at full speed since the 6p isn't QC certified. You'll have to get usb-c chargers that can deliver 5v/3a
whats the best charger i can get on amazon? not just cable
I use this one:
http://www.amazon.com/SONEic-Type-C-Charger-Devices-Included/dp/B017BVLLC6
It's identical OEM charger that shipped with the 6p/5x, just rebranded.
so thats the same price as https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_charger darn... nothing cheaper on amazon!
Awesome thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for. Because I didn't like the ones in the Google store. I wanted another of what it shipped with.
Raech said:
Awesome thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for. Because I didn't like the ones in the Google store. I wanted another of what it shipped with.
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which one did u get?
Nblufire12 said:
which one did u get?
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I'll be getting the one Jaxtripp said
http://www.amazon.com/SONEic-Type-C-.../dp/B017BVLLC6
It's identical OEM charger that shipped with the 6p/5x, just rebranded.
Raech said:
Awesome thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for. Because I didn't like the ones in the Google store. I wanted another of what it shipped with.
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I wanted the same thing. Glad to pass along the info. Enjoy!
Nexus 6P original adapter charging vs. third-party chargers charging
Hi, here are some points for Nexus 6P charging and Quick Charge 2.0:
1. Nexus 6P doesn't support Quick Charge 2.0/3.0, but its original adapter supports 5V/3A charging, actually the speed is even faster than Quick Charge 2.0 18W maximum power (6P original adapter charging efficiency is better than Quick Charge 2.0)
2. Mainstream Quick Charge 2.0 port is USB-A port, you can use a USB-A to USB-C cable to charge your Nexus 6P. But be sure to use the qualified cable, you should choose the USB-A to USB-C cable with 56K Rp, about how to choose type-c cable, you can refer to Google engineer Benson, he reviewed nearly all the type-c cables on market, see https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung
3. Original Nexus 6P original adapter is with female Type-C port and a type-c to type-c cable, so you'd choose similar format third-party chargers. I found some female type-c charger adapter is also with Quick Charge 3.0.
4. Here there is a Nexus 6P charging analysis http://www.tronsmart.com/nexus-6p-charging-analysis by Tronsmart, although it seems an ads by Tronsmart, it offer some important info about Nexus 6P charging, maybe it is useful for you.
That is what I know, any question or opinion, let's discuss.
Nblufire12 said:
hey guys
i had a nexus 6 and have a bunch of QC 2.0 chargers
now that i have a 6P, can i still use the wall adapters and plug in a full size usb to usb 3 cable into the wall adapter?
does the wattage of the adapter work? or should i look to buy a new one with a usb c port
thanks
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I use this one:
http://www.amazon.com/SONEic-Type-C-Charger-Devices-Included/dp/B017BVLLC6
It's identical OEM charger that shipped with the 6p/5x, just rebranded.
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You happen to know if there is an EU plug available for this charger? I can't seem to find anything other than US plug.
I use this Anker multi port charger, it has a native USB C port, plus 4 regular USB ports. With a total of 40W, I can charge a lot of things at the same time, and it's the best solution for travel. The cable is detachable, so you should be able to find a European AC cable for it
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger...psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00

Aukey Car Charger with USB C & Power Delivery (AUKEY CC-Y7)

Has anyone used this yet? Thoughts? It appears to be a new model.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LGO9LE4/
Was gonna pick one up when they drop 10 bucks or go on sale. Looks perfect though and half the price of the belkin.
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I would wait to see if Benson reviews it, awful lot of stuff out there that operates out of spec.
I agree. Unless you absolutely need one right now, I'd wait until they review more stuff or just pony up $40 for the Belkin... WAY too much variation in how these manufacturers are producing USB-C chargers.
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I agree. Unless you absolutely need one right now, I'd wait until they review more stuff or just pony up $40 for the Belkin... WAY too much variation in how these manufacturers are producing USB-C chargers.
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I agree. I was totally in the dark until I started following Benson and Nathan. Especially with Aukey, I don't think I'll risk it. Plus it's only a 15w.
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I agree. I was totally in the dark until I started following Benson and Nathan. Especially with Aukey, I don't think I'll risk it. Plus it's only a 15w.
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The quoted charger is actually over 18W, so it will charge the Pixel at full speed. I'd like to buy one because it's the only option, but... my 15W standard type C charger will hold me over for now.
bought 2 of these bad boys today. its 24w and quickcharge 3.0, also it comes with a 3ft usb type c charge cable for 12.99!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KCAJ1HK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
jscharf10 said:
bought 2 of these bad boys today. its 24w and quickcharge 3.0, also it comes with a 3ft usb type c charge cable for 12.99!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KCAJ1HK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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It's USB A though....
myboyblake said:
It's USB A though....
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Yea it's USB A to USB C, IV had other USB C to USB C and there is no difference in charging speed for one, for two this is a good inexpensive option that comes with a USB A to USB C cable
I bought this charger along with a Black Squid Type-C to Type-C cable and it shows "charging rapidly" for me.
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Was gonna pick one up when they drop 10 bucks or go on sale. Looks perfect though and half the price of the belkin.
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It is half the price but it doesn't include a USB c cable. The Belkin does. Just something to keep in mind.
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I bought this charger and it's working great. Using the USB a-c cable that was bundled with the Pixel.
My last car charger was a very similar, low profile Aukey one with QC 2.0 and I never had any issues with it either.
This is the one I use. Fast charges both my Nexus 6p and Pixel XL. I think it was mentioned by Benson to be good also.
https://www.amazon.com/charger-Nekteck-Charger-Adapter-Integrated/dp/B0172QQNBY
Tronsmart always has a rebadge version of what Aukey has or vice versa, anyone try this one?
https://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-Charger-Delivery-MacBook-Tablet/dp/B01MRGTZZD
I bought one of these a few weeks ago but haven't used it yet.. Was waiting to get thumbsup from Benson first.
Looks like Nathan K on G+ has started testing it, looks iffy..
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/C6iWFDfSGt4?sfc=true
Pheno.menon said:
I bought this charger and it's working great. Using the USB a-c cable that was bundled with the Pixel.
My last car charger was a very similar, low profile Aukey one with QC 2.0 and I never had any issues with it either.
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Uh... the Power Delivery charging is ONLY through the USB Type C port... charging via USB A does absolutely nothing for you.
jscharf10 said:
bought 2 of these bad boys today. its 24w and quickcharge 3.0, also it comes with a 3ft usb type c charge cable for 12.99!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KCAJ1HK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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The Pixel does not support Quick Charge. Don't know what you will get from USB-A to USB-C.
Good setup is 5V/3A = 15W from a good USB-C charger and cable.
Best setup is 9V/2A = 18W from a good USB-C PD charger and cable
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The Pixel does not support Quick Charge. Don't know what you will get from USB-A to USB-C.
Good setup is 5V/3A = 15W from a good USB-C charger and cable.
Best setup is 9V/2A = 18W from a good USB-C PD charger and cable
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All I'm saying is these chargers are 24w / 3A , and when I plug in my pixel it tells me rapidly charging. I can get a full charge in the same amount of time as my charger I received with my pixel phone, or the Belkin USB type c charger I have , just trying to save you guys some money. As for reliability I had a 6p when they first came out and the battery and phone are still good in that an I have always used that charger. Hope this helps!
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moogaloo said:
The Pixel does not support Quick Charge. Don't know what you will get from USB-A to USB-C.
Good setup is 5V/3A = 15W from a good USB-C charger and cable.
Best setup is 9V/2A = 18W from a good USB-C PD charger and cable
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Although the Snapdragon 821 is capable of Quick Charge 3.0 for the Pixel, it looks like Google has elected to use the USB-C Power Delivery standard. I just looked up a bunch of very confusing technical stuff, but the big advantage of PD is use of the data connection within USB-C while charging. ( like from a computer ). I don't think there is very much difference in the rate of charging with PD vs Quick Charge. Rest assured, the Pixels will charge VERY quickly.
I'm on my way to work but this should sum it up, all sd821 are quick charge 3.0 capable, like I said this charger is 24w/3a an you won't be using the USB PD features while charging in your car anyway.
jscharf10 said:
bought 2 of these bad boys today. its 24w and quickcharge 3.0, also it comes with a 3ft usb type c charge cable for 12.99!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KCAJ1HK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1]
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That's a standard 5v 2.4A charger according to it's specs, at max you'll get 12w decent charge albeit not "max" but who cares, since the Pixel doesn't support qc. Using it with the stock pixel a to c cable should be safe, I wouldn't use an untested cable tho and risk frying the Pixel.
The blitzwolf usb-c +a car charger, non qc, is only $5 delivered on Banggoods on sale, comes usb-c cabled and has usb a slot. I use it and get a good safe charge from it.
The visnic has been tested to work well, only $10 but you need a cable too.

Any recommendations on the best car charger?

Hey all, just acquired my new Pixel XL. It's my first USB-c device so need to get some new cables... I was looking at USB-c car chargers on Amazon but not seeing any rave reviews on much. Do you all have any recommendations? Is there a certain standard of charger that is best for the Pixel (I.e. quick charge 2.0 or 3.0 etc)?
Thanks everyone for your input
AntikytheraTech said:
Hey all, just acquired my new Pixel XL. It's my first USB-c device so need to get some new cables... I was looking at USB-c car chargers on Amazon but not seeing any rave reviews on much. Do you all have any recommendations? Is there a certain standard of charger that is best for the Pixel (I.e. quick charge 2.0 or 3.0 etc)?
Thanks everyone for your input
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The pixels use usb-pd and not quick charge 2.0 or 3.0. Currently, there is not a lot of great options. there are a few threads taking about it in this forum.
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dragonsofcp said:
The pixels use usb-pd and not quick charge 2.0 or 3.0. Currently, there is not a lot of great options. there are a few threads taking about it in this forum.
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Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3474205
Shout out to @Nathan-K and Benson. I've spent hours reading their G+ pages and Amazon reviews and I'm blown away by the work they're doing trying to hold manufacturers accountable and keep consumers safe.
Tl;dr - most are junk currently, and some are even dangerous. 1 specific Verizon version for usb-c pd (TYPECPDVPC ONLY!) is the most acceptable one.
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Check out this spreadsheet it has chargers on it and one is type car. There are no perfect PD chargers at the moment (18W) AUKEYCC-Y7 and Verizon 27w TYPECPDVPC are the least bad. It is probably best to take the 3W hit at the moment and go for a 15W non PD car charger like the Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK or Nomad B015NN0OKO. Personally I have gone for the AUKEYCC-Y7 PD charger as although not perfect it is at least cheap.
Bear in mind that some chargers come with a fixed USB-C charging cable. Ones that are cable less will need a decent cable as well. Decent ones cost as much as the chargers. So given the current price I recommend going for the Belkin 15W charger with built in cable
spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/edit#gid=1288176877
AUKEY CC-Y7 20 USD
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Deli...F8&qid=1481192204&sr=8-1&keywords=AUKEY+CC-Y7
Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK 25 USD (On sale!)
https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-I...6&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Belkin+15w+F7U005bt04
I would stick with your existing USB - A charger and get a A to C cable.
None of the USB-C chargers are anywhere near good.
I just got this one two days ago based on Benson Leung's review. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
His review: https://www.amazon.com/review/R2Z6A...etail-glance&nodeID=2335752011&store=wireless
I found a link in one of these threads that has a easy to follow list. It doesn't appear to be updated so some of the newer items are not listed: https://usbccompliant.com/
James4.0 said:
I would stick with your existing USB - A charger and get a A to C cable.
None of the USB-C chargers are anywhere near good.
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So there's no issue using an old micro USB charging cable? I planned on using my old ones and I purchased a 2 pack of USB-C to Micro USB adapters from Amazon. Can't seem to get clarification about the micro USB chargers..
I have no clue with micro > C adapters. The OEM A>C cable works great and make sure any 3rd party A > C cables should have the required 56kΩ resistor.
I am using a few of these from Anker on an old .5a Moto charger, older Anker car charger and an extra thrown in my work bag.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A6F3WHG/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
aholeinthewor1d said:
So there's no issue using an old micro USB charging cable? I planned on using my old ones and I purchased a 2 pack of USB-C to Micro USB adapters from Amazon. Can't seem to get clarification about the micro USB chargers..
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Of course there is an issue, you need to use either use a micro to c adapter with a 56k ohm pull-up resistor in it or a an approved a to c cable that also has a 56k ohm pull-up resistor.
EDIT: make sure you bookmark that google spreadsheet and check it for up to date~ info.
clockcycle said:
Of course there is an issue, you need to use either use a micro to c adapter with a 56k ohm pull-up resistor in it or a an approved a to c cable that also has a 56k ohm pull-up resistor.
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Well that's why I asked.. lol
So the adapter that came with the phone is ok to use with old micro USB cables?
Droid_Junky said:
I just got this one two days ago based on Benson Leung's review. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
His review: https://www.amazon.com/review/R2Z6A...etail-glance&nodeID=2335752011&store=wireless
I found a link in one of these threads that has a easy to follow list. It doesn't appear to be updated so some of the newer items are not listed: https://usbccompliant.com/
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That visnic is no longer even on the spreadsheet
I got the v3 CCTA from tronsmart and returned it, the pixel sees it as a device when you unplug and plug it into 12v with car turned off/not powering socket..
The 27w Belkin is now considered bad after further testing has shown it to allow the pixel to backfeed power.
Oh, all Belkins are now in the bad -2 recommendation..
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Well that's why I asked.. lol
So the adapter that came with the phone is ok to use with old micro USB cables?
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A Micro to usb type c adapter didnt come with the phone. You can use the USB A to C cable that came with the phone with legacy chargers.
Has anyone plugged their pixel into an "old" charger and actually had an issue? I see lots of people going crazy about chargers and also see lots of people that use any old charger they have with a cheap adapter and they have no issue.
aholeinthewor1d said:
Has anyone plugged their pixel into an "old" charger and actually had an issue? I see lots of people going crazy about chargers and also see lots of people that use any old charger they have with a cheap adapter and they have no issue.
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I use my old charger with the oem a to c cable and my old a to micro cable with a micro to c adapter that has the 56k ohm resistor just fine, it's just slower than max, but no big deal. hardly ever have to use it, but have it just in case.
I have been using an old Anker pre QC charger and it has been working fine.
I haven't tried the QC3 charger in my wife's car yet.
For now the A>C cables with the 56 ohm resistor is the safe way to go.
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Droid_Junky said:
I just got this one two days ago based on Benson Leung's review. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
His review: https://www.amazon.com/review/R2Z6A...etail-glance&nodeID=2335752011&store=wireless
I found a link in one of these threads that has a easy to follow list. It doesn't appear to be updated so some of the newer items are not listed: https://usbccompliant.com/
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Plus one. Have this and love it.
I use this one I bought off Amazon. Been using it for a while. Never had any problems with it. Rapidly charges my pixel and you can charge 2 items at the same time. Check it out for yourself.
Belkin
The Belkin 15 watt used to be recommended as it was the charger for the 6p. I have used it with the 6p and now the Pixel. Not sure why it went from 2 to -1. Obviously it does not do PD with the Pixel, but I cannot see it doing harm. Same is true for the Google 6p wall charger. I sue that with the Pixel also. Any thoughts?
pclewis said:
The Belkin 15 watt used to be recommended as it was the charger for the 6p. I have used it with the 6p and now the Pixel. Not sure why it went from 2 to -1. Obviously it does not do PD with the Pixel, but I cannot see it doing harm.
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I would guess the change is for charging as noted. There are some further comments about a lack of IR drop compensation circuitry in the Google+ information below. I view the list as simply somewhat subjective opinions from an engineer, and like you said, I couldn't find comments in Google+ to suggest the Belkin you're talking about might pose a threat to a phone. My previous Razr M would tend to lose power when charging and using navigation, so I may just keep the Belkin PD model and see what happens with a replacement, in spite of the current -2 in the list.
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/dxxeQtDTXuW?sfc=true
moogaloo said:
Check out this spreadsheet it has chargers on it and one is type car. There are no perfect PD chargers at the moment (18W) AUKEYCC-Y7 and Verizon 27w TYPECPDVPC are the least bad. It is probably best to take the 3W hit at the moment and go for a 15W non PD car charger like the Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK or Nomad B015NN0OKO. Personally I have gone for the AUKEYCC-Y7 PD charger as although not perfect it is at least cheap.
Bear in mind that some chargers come with a fixed USB-C charging cable. Ones that are cable less will need a decent cable as well. Decent ones cost as much as the chargers. So given the current price I recommend going for the Belkin 15W charger with built in cable
spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/edit#gid=1288176877
AUKEY CC-Y7 20 USD
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Deli...F8&qid=1481192204&sr=8-1&keywords=AUKEY+CC-Y7
Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK 25 USD (On sale!)
https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-I...6&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Belkin+15w+F7U005bt04
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I bought two of the AUKEY ones and have been using them without issue and they charge fast. Using a choetech USB c to c cable on one of them and an Anker c to c on the other.
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Some further information has been posted on the Belkin car chargers:
F7U004bt04-BLK
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/fKDKFYqnWt1
F7U005bt04-BLK
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/dgqeFSM19bd
F7U006bt04-BLK
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/SYq8iPEGv2Y

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