Plz can someone tell us what does it mean 'vendor packge'in the instruction of b324
A vendor, also known as a supplier, is an individual or company that sells goods or services to someone else in the economic production chain.*
Vendors are a part of the*supply chain: the network of all the individuals, organizations, resources, activities and technology involved in the creation and sale of a product, from the delivery of source materials from the supplier to the manufacturer, through to its eventual delivery to the end user.
Parts manufacturers are vendors of parts to other manufacturers that assemble the parts into something sold to wholesalers or retailers. Retailers are vendors of products to consumers. In information technology as well as in other industries, the term is commonly applied to suppliers of goods and services to other companies.
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Think but we need the meaning in relation with mate 7
Prof1977 said:
Plz can someone tell us what does it mean 'vendor packge'in the instruction of b324
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The vendor package contains the apps the manufacturer decided to install on your device by default, aka bloatware. So if you ever wondered why some games and other apps either reappear after a factory reset or refuse to be uninstalled via titanium backup - they are part of this package.
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There is an ongoing thread at the Official Flash Community about a possible "spyware" embedded in the firmware of TCL / Alcatel Flash Plus 2 and Flash 2 smartphones.
A local TV station might have also picked up on the story and is now following this as well.
You guys might want to check this out:
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hxxp://community.flash3c.com/t/fp2-secretly-phoning-home-to-china-server/13708
Seriously though, is there still any Android smartphone manufacturer that we can still trust aside from Samsung?
Yes, Adups has already been found doing this before (see previous thread about Blu phone etc), they claim it's nothing to worry about but in my opinion it's is (especially for some people eg my sisters work duties has put her up against Chinese SOE's) due to the data sent & the identifying data & ability to make changes without user knowledge and possible the tentacles of the CCP government reaching into the company if it so chooses it could then monitor her & put her and her colleagues at risk given some of the dodgy countries she's had to go to.
Some of the guys are getting worked up about this on the crackberry forum as TCL is Blackberry's subby (though the thread quickly veered off to Blackberry hardware, so unrelated to the Adups issue).
http://forums.crackberry.com/genera...ding-customers-data-china-1095845/index4.html
FWIW, I agree with Sorinv & DaFoxGrey that it's possible (well to some degree) without Blackberry noticing as they would not test every phone for this sort of thing from every production run, and it may not trigger any connection unless under specific conditions. It could be done via a compromised employee flashing dodgy firmware or amended wafer negative when running a batch, though would be hard to pull off even by government agents. But that's all on a whole different level to the Adups issue, besides I don't think Blackberry phones have that app or Baidu apks etc so for them it should be a none issue, but for Chinese phones .......
As for trusting Samsung ..... they are part of a huge conglomerate with close links to an opaque government who are susceptible to influences of a few powerful families & others, so they would not be immune. Nor their employees being immune to blackmail to make changes. That said they are who I have put my faith in for the time being. At the end of the day we all have to trust someone, as I'm sure you are aware.
Trust is a matter of perspective. Most devices from China oem are expected to have e this as their government requires it to monitor its citizens. Which is completely legal there and why most devices from China are banned to be owned by US government employees. It's just the way it is.
If trust us a big thing then the last thing you should be buying is an oem device. Get a nexus and then you can see every bit of code you put into your device.
Anyone received the email about the Huawei ID Transfer from USA To Germany whats it exactly mean?
Dear Honor customer:
Honor is a global brand, and our philosophy is always to be customer centric. We believe in delivering the best service to our customers and adapting and evolving to embrace new innovations. Honor continues to build on its strength to develop and enhance our products, services and new inventions. Whenever challenges arise, we stay true to our passion and persist to achieve our dreams, continually striving for new accomplishments.
At Honor, we keep moving forward to discover the world, take risks and are always ready to be inspired from our experience. We pursue our mission guided by a belief that tomorrow can always be better as we are committed to staying true to ourselves and daring to be different!
The Honor Store, as the official platform of Huawei Device USA, focuses on the customer experience by providing a broad range of products, sales, logistic support, and after sales services. Thus, in order to serve you better, we plan to migrate your registered Huawei ID and any information associated with your ID on www.hihonor.com/us from the USA to Germany on April 6, 2017. After migration, the services on www.hihonor.com/us will remain the same as prior to migration. If you do not want your information migrated to Germany, please delete your Huawei ID prior to April 5, 2017.
Please note that if you delete you Huawei ID, you will not be able to access your Huawei ID or any of your information associated with Huawei services used or services received from third parties. This information may include, but is not limited to: personal information, records, uploaded files, transactions, coupons, and membership benefits. You will be unable to recover any or your data after you delete your Huawei ID.
If you wish to delete your Huawei ID, please click here: Link.
If you have any questions or concerns, please contact us at [email protected].
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From what I can gather your data would sit in Germany and follow the EU's data protection and privacy laws, which tend to be less invasive than US'. It could also be that it just makes more economical sense to do it, depending how their online operations are set up.
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Dewaynelives said:
Anyone received the email about the Huawei ID Transfer from USA To Germany whats it exactly mean?
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I got the same message
I got this also. Weird it's going to happen April 5th. Isn't honor launching a phone April 5th too?
From CNN:
"ZTE Corporation, one of China's largest tech companies, has halted "major operating activities" after a US ban against the company went into effect, according to a new public filing."
"Some of the company's products, which includes smartphones and telecommunications equipment, appeared to be taken offline Wednesday. "
And this is so stupid because not everyone lives in the US.........
Unfortunately ZTE have not kept up an agreement with the US and action has been taken .... makes me think thank god for tdm and his amazing work
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And this is so stupid because not everyone lives in the US.........
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The biggest part of the seven-year ban involves no buying any products from US based companies. So no Qualcomm chips, no Dolby, etc. That's what really is devastating to them.
That being said it still sucks. It seemed like they were heading in a good direction, but they violated terms of a legal settlement. I'll still be using my Axon 7 Mini as a "backup" phone, but unfortunately won't be able to get another ZTE...
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Is there still a point to purchasing one and going through the trouble of rooting it so that I will work on Verizon?
igresham said:
Is there still a point to purchasing one and going through the trouble of rooting it so that I will work on Verizon?
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If I were you I would maybe go with Huawei, they manufacture most of the parts themselves. Don't know if they will be also banned soon
ZTE should partner with Huawei and get the parts from them. Although I am unsure which supplier is being used for WiFi (if it would be Broadcom it would be funny)
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If I were you I would maybe go with Huawei, they manufacture most of the parts themselves. Don't know if they will be also banned soon
ZTE should partner with Huawei and get the parts from them. Although I am unsure which supplier is being used for WiFi (if it would be Broadcom it would be funny)
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Partnering with Huawei might get past finding a supplier for the CPU/SoC - switch from Snapdragon to Kirin. Mediatek would be another option.
Still, they'd be stuck needing to roll out a whole new lineup of devices based on the new hardware.
In any event, would still have trouble purchasing a license for Google-certified Android software such as the Play Services, Play Store, etc.
However, it's starting to look like the USA strategy all along was to use this export ban as a bargaining tool to force China to make concessions in ongoing trade negotiations. There's nothing like going thermonuclear (figuratively speaking) to catch your adversary's (also known as "trading partner's") attention. Trump has recently tweeted that he's open to "working together" with the Chinese government to re-start ZTE's operations. (On the other hand, I've read in other news sources claiming that the most recent string of events with the USA backpedaling on the ZTE file is evidence of China preying on a naive USA trade strategy. Who knows: Maybe both opinions are true?)
On the CCP (Chinese government) spying on people outside of their country.
Why I don’t believe Bloomberg’s Chinese spy chip report
China can and has stolen the information it wants from US companies without using secretly embedded hardware, so why would it jeopardize its massive semiconductor industry?
www.csoonline.com
So here is my deal...
Does Lenovo put some sort of actual spyware on these?
How I define Chinese spyware. Hardware or software that in any way reports to the CCP.
As I am starting to wonder, even if they did, what would be the benefit of this outside of their region? They have no legal jurisdiction outside of their boarders. They don't know what my work is (government to plumber to McDonald's worker), so what would they do with random information? There is just too much data to process even for machine learning and deap learning systems.
I doubt they care about you as an individual (sorry) its more about the big data just like Google or Amazon like to collect.
I could be an influential tech manager, but if I buy the tablet from an American off of ebay who bought the device from China, they don't know who I am nor do they know that I was interested in that product, so how would they even notice spy on me specifically?
It just doesn't make sense.
BIG Data is just the mass collection of Data. Google uses it for adverting. Who knows what China may or may not use it for.
However, I have personally worked with; machine learning, deap learning, machine vision, and symbolic LISP.
There is too much data to suss out for any current computing system to zero in on a specific individual without an operator specifically looking for that specific individual.
what do you think? If you have links to support your point (or other sources) please post.
The CCP wants to collect as much data as possible on USA citizens including DNA, little doubt for race targeted bioweapons.
It's terrible.
India has the right idea. Most dopes install the data collecting malware with glee onto their devices to "socialize"
FB, Instascam, WhatsApp, Twitter, Tik Dock are all trashware at the best and outright spyware at the worst. Heavily laden with disinformation and selectively censored to further their globalist goals.
Chipsets can be designed with hidden remote backdoors that are nearly impossible to detect.
The CCP requires all China based companies to share any and all data, with them. Maybe ask that a few backdoors be added to hardware, firmware and software.
Get the picture? The goal is global domination by whatever means are necessary including bioweapons. It's not hypothetical anymore; the CCP is doing it.
WYSIWYG... booster shot anyone?
blackhawk said:
The CCP wants to collect as much data as possible on USA citizens including DNA, little doubt for race targeted bioweapons.
It's terrible.
India has the right idea. Most dopes install the data collecting malware with glee onto their devices to "socialize"
FB, Instascam, WhatsApp, Twitter, Tik Dock are all trashware at the best and outright spyware at the worst. Heavily laden with disinformation and selectively censored to further their globalist goals.
Chipsets can be designed with hidden remote backdoors that are nearly impossible to detect.
The CCP requires all China based companies to share any and all data, with them. Maybe ask that a few backdoors be added to hardware, firmware and software.
Get the picture? The goal is global domination by whatever means are necessary including bioweapons. It's not hypothetical anymore; the CCP is doing it.
WYSIWYG... booster shot anyone?
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Again, it is too much data. I am not super pro CCP considering I am of Hebrew decent, WW2 etc.
However, I just can't fathom, what the zero context data will give them especially considering they have to filter it into catagories. Also, seriously, ai isn't intelligent, it DOES NOT understand CONTEXT. So, again, it would require an operator specifically looking for person xyz. You can have a specific keyword notification system, albeit you still require a human operator to verify the supposed findings. There is just too much data for any existing computer network or system to channel into classes the amount of data that would go through.
I need real world evidence not just people saying things.
this is why.
government abc saying they have the power to spy on you out of many many billions of people. you should be afraid of that government system because they can right? or is that just a claim.
Fear mongering doesn't work on me. I need proof.
we DO have proof that the CCP has infiltrated the USA government in its current sitting. albeit to make such a claim they can pin point someone specific without knowing a name in context is just false, without proof.
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Again, it is too much data. I am not super pro CCP considering I am of Hebrew decent, WW2 etc.
However, I just can't fathom, what the zero context data will give them especially considering they have to filter it into catagories. Also, seriously, ai isn't intelligent, it DOES NOT understand CONTEXT. So, again, it would require an operator specifically looking for person xyz. You can have a specific keyword notification system, albeit you still require a human operator to verify the supposed findings. There is just too much data for any existing computer network or system to channel into classes the amount of data that would go through.
I need real world evidence not just people saying things.
this is why.
government abc saying they have the power to spy on you out of many many billions of people. you should be afraid of that government system because they can right? or is that just a claim.
Fear mongering doesn't work on me. I need proof.
we DO have proof that the CCP has infiltrated the USA government in its current sitting. albeit to make such a claim they can pin point someone specific without knowing a name in context is just false, without proof.
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You have no idea of their capabilities unless you have a top secret security clearance. In which case you wouldn't be posting this at all... unless you're fishing.
Meh, do want you will...
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So I'm looking to buy a new phone and it seems that about 70% of the market share in the best buys is comprised of Chinese owned manufacturers.
There have been numerous reports of such manufacturers collecting user-identifable data and phoning home with it. I know that western owned phone companies collect data but believe that the rules /laws, ehtics and security are better followed in the west. I'm not trying to get into a debate of east vs west btw this is just my opinion. Yes I know that almost all phones are manufactured in China but I'm more concerned about who is influencing the companies themselves if they are Chinese.
So given that I value my privacy and want to keep personal data out of the hands of bad actors I'm left with a choice of buying a western owned phone which are generally much lower spec for a price point or perhaps buying Chinese and rooting.
My question is whether this is a practical answer given the need to use a phone as a secure device e.g. 2FA and internet banking apps etc and a daily driver? Also my experience tells me that when one takes a custom ROM they take on responsibility for applying patches and updates which is something of an administration burden I probably don't have the time /inclination for.
For the record I've flashed and used custom roms on about 3-4 devices in the past so have some first hand experiance but wondered if things have changed for the better or worse?
They could have embedded hidden backdoors in the hardware or worse.
Well, things are still the same, if not even worse. Beside security patches, Google has been cracking down on rooted users, so in the near future some features and some apps might stop working. Unfortunately users with just an unlocked bootloader might be caught in the crossfire. As for privacy, try Xiaomi. Sure, there have been rumors of Spyware on Xiaomi devices. Well, back in January some cybersecurity firm from Germany test that theory. Proved it was false.
Germany: No evidence of spying from Xiaomi phones
One point for Xiaomi
www.gadgetmatch.com
Thus Xiaomi might be one of the good ones. At least in terms of being spied by them. Sure, third party apps also spy on you, but for that you have adb.
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Well, things are still the same, if not even worse. Beside security patches, Google has been cracking down on rooted users, so in the near future some features and some apps might stop working. Unfortunately users with just an unlocked bootloader might be caught in the crossfire. As for privacy, try Xiaomi. Sure, there have been rumors of Spyware on Xiaomi devices. Well, back in January some cybersecurity firm from Germany test that theory. Proved it was false.
Germany: No evidence of spying from Xiaomi phones
One point for Xiaomi
www.gadgetmatch.com
Thus Xiaomi might be one of the good ones. At least in terms of being spied by them. Sure, third party apps also spy on you, but for that you have adb.
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That's bad to hear that Google are trying to put the squeeze on and a deterrent to investing time and energy installing Roms that may only get worse with time in terms of G Apps and services.
Hmmm that article refers to an absence of censorship rather than not spying.
Here's an example of the story which I've seen repeated elsewhere on Xiaomi spying:
Exclusive: Warning Over Chinese Mobile Giant Xiaomi Recording Millions Of People’s ‘Private’ Web And Phone Use
Xiaomi is collecting users’ browser habits and phone usage, raising red flags for privacy researchers.
www.forbes.com
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That's bad to hear that Google are trying to put the squeeze on and a deterrent to investing time and energy installing Roms that may only get worse with time in terms of G Apps and services.
Hmmm that article refers to an absence of censorship rather than not spying.
Here's an example of the story which I've seen repeated elsewhere on Xiaomi spying:
Exclusive: Warning Over Chinese Mobile Giant Xiaomi Recording Millions Of People’s ‘Private’ Web And Phone Use
Xiaomi is collecting users’ browser habits and phone usage, raising red flags for privacy researchers.
www.forbes.com
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Sorry about that.
At this point, I doubt there isn't a smartphone maker that does not track its users. From chinese makers to American makers, everyone tracks their users. Their data sells the best. At this rate, if you want to totally protect your privacy, don't buy a phone. Anything and everything can be tracked. Dumb phones and smartphones. So picking a smartphone isn't going to keep your privacy secure. You might have a say in how many people do you want to track you, based on phone's price.
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So I'm looking to buy a new phone and it seems that about 70% of the market share in the best buys is comprised of Chinese owned manufacturers.
There have been numerous reports of such manufacturers collecting user-identifable data and phoning home with it. I know that western owned phone companies collect data but believe that the rules /laws, ehtics and security are better followed in the west. I'm not trying to get into a debate of east vs west btw this is just my opinion. Yes I know that almost all phones are manufactured in China but I'm more concerned about who is influencing the companies themselves if they are Chinese.
So given that I value my privacy and want to keep personal data out of the hands of bad actors I'm left with a choice of buying a western owned phone which are generally much lower spec for a price point or perhaps buying Chinese and rooting.
My question is whether this is a practical answer given the need to use a phone as a secure device e.g. 2FA and internet banking apps etc and a reliable daily driver? Also my experience tells me that when one takes a custom ROM they take on responsibility for applying patches and updates which is something of an administration burden I probably don't have the time /inclination for.
For the record I've flashed and used custom roms on about 3-4 devices in the past so have some first hand experiance but wondered if things have changed for the better or worse?
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To be on the safe side, you can install an alternative ROM, such as LineageOS, instead of the preinstalled OS: requires phone's bootloader is unlockable.
Be aware that no cell phone provides you with true anonymity.
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To be on the safe side, you can install an alternative ROM, such as LineageOS, instead of the preinstalled OS: requires phone's bootloader is unlockable.
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yes i know i can do that- and the firmware too- my question was about the practicality of living with such a phone once done
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Be aware that no cell phone provides you with true anonymity.
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Yes, aware of that, just trying to minimise exposure while still having a usable phone
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They could have embedded hidden backdoors in the hardware or worse.
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worrying but if one wipes the firmware and ROM then that would mitigate any hardware backdoor risks I would have thought?
Has anyone actually tested a custom rom on a chinese phone that was known to send data back to chinese servers?
For example:
test with stock rom: wireshark shows phone sending information to chinese IP
test with custom rom: wireshark shows no packets sent to chinese IPs.
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Has anyone actually tested a custom rom on a chinese phone that was known to send data back to chinese servers?
For example:
test with stock rom: wireshark shows phone sending information to chinese IP
test with custom rom: wireshark shows no packets sent to chinese IPs.
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Some infos could go to an American proxy server then to Chinese. In order to be sure no one gets you data, learn to code and make your own rom and your own apps. Open source apps are an option if you know to check the source yourself.