My ultimate plan is to get a phone that I can use with both Ringplus and T-Mobile. I know about the Nexus phones and the new Moto X Pure, but I'm on a budget and the new Moto G is just what I want in features for the price.
So my first question is if I can get the XT1548 to work on Ringplus. But that question becomes mute if I can't even get it to work on Tmobile. On the plus side, if I can get it to work on Tmobile, the XT1548 supports LTE band 12. :good:
does anyone know if the XT1548 can be sim unlocked?
delawaresace said:
My ultimate plan is to get a phone that I can use with both Ringplus and T-Mobile. I know about the Nexus phones and the new Moto X Pure, but I'm on a budget and the new Moto G is just what I want in features for the price.
So my first question is if I can get the XT1548 to work on Ringplus. But that question becomes mute if I can't even get it to work on Tmobile. On the plus side, if I can get it to work on Tmobile, the XT1548 supports LTE band 12. :good:
does anyone know if the XT1548 can be sim unlocked?
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You need GSM.
I use an XT1540 on wind and that uses the same bands as T-Mobile I believe. ( I live in Canada. ) I've had previous phones on Wind Mobile that had T-Mobile tags so I believe they also use the UMTS (maybe 1700 band?) signal as well.
"Differences between unlocked GSM andCDMA*phones. This topic is important when it comes to*unlocking*a GSM or*CDMA*phone because they don't both work in the same way. It is because of the differences between them in regards to the hardware they use to connect to a network (SIM card versus no SIM card)." - http://support.mobileunlocked.com/h...ferences-between-unlocked-GSM-and-CDMA-phones - pulled from google for a bit of piece of mind.
Ringplus may have no sim (in order to keep you locked into their network.)
T-Mobile does include sim cards because I've pulled one out of said wind mobile phones lol
Thanks for your reply. maybe a little more context can help.
So, this is the thread that inspired my question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-success-sim-unlock-sprint-xt1056-t2825155
RingPlus is a MVNO for Sprint. You can use a number of Sprint, Virgin, Boost phones on RingPlus. People have also gotten the new Moto X and the Nexus phones that work with all carriers working on RingPlus and T-Mobile at the same time by just switching sim cards. I want to do the same with the Moto G.
Because RingPlus is a MVNO of Sprint, it uses CDMA. This is why I would need to use the XT1548 instead of the XT1540. I hope that clears things up.
Ahhh okay! Yeah it does my bad heh I did kinda rush that answer. I would imagine as long as that variant supports both radio bands I would imagine it would work. I have a single sim but I have heard there is dual sim as well, that would probably be your best bet. Just check what frequency the carriers both run on and give your device model a scan on gsm arena or any spec observant website to see if it supports both.
Example : UMTS 1700 is the band I need in order to use wind mobile on phones.
First, if you are able to purchase an XT1548 you better be sure that it isn't subsidized and the service you purchase it from is willing to allow you to take that device to another MVNO. It's a matter of reaching a staff person who is able and willing. Ting may be the only one that will be helpful with this.
Second, good luck getting Sprint or someone to domestically unlock GSM for this phone. As of today, I doubt it will be easy. It may require you to activate the phone on Sprint service and then find the support chain that will domestically unlock GSM. They are not obligated to do this.
The jumping of hoops might look something like this:
1. Purchase unsubsidized XT1548 from Ting when it's available (PM me for $25 Ting referral credit).
2. Activate on Ting ($6).
3. Ask Ting to "release" the phone to be activated on Sprint.
4. Activate on Sprint.
5. Request DSU from Sprint.
6. Ask Sprint to "release" the phone to be activated on RingPlus.
7. Activate on RingPlus.
8. Activate T-Mobile SIM and install the SIM to see if the phone works on GSM (not 4G LTE capable).
EDIT: If you want to port your number, I wouldn't bother til your final activation.
Good luck!
The US Cellular version of the Moto E is apparently SIM unlocked. By US Cellular's device policy, none of their Motorola branded phones are SIM locked. Perhaps the US Cellular Moto G would be more likely to work on domestic GSM as well as Sprint MNVOs. Certainly that's true of the Moto E.
unlocking GSM on moto xt1548
I have a moto g xt1548 that I asked a friend to get me since I lost my prior phone. However i live in ethiopia for work and this phone doesn't seem to be connecting to the gsm networks here. I'm aware the phone was originally bought for use on virgin mobile's network, but I expected the gsm would work nonetheless here (I reckon the phone uses both CDMA and GSM bandwidths). Some help would be nice here. How can I get the phone to recognise the networks here. I have tried everything from GSM to WCDMA but yet to try LTE (which is also available in ethiopia). I need to get the LTE sim card first. Is there a way to do this? Otherwise would rooting and flashing a custom ROM help? Or is it possible to find a work around to unlock GSM connectivity otlf that is what is locked.?
x1548 is CDMA only as far as I'm aware.
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x1548 is CDMA only as far as I'm aware.
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No, the XT1548 supports:
XT1548 US (Sprint, US Cellular, Virgin Mobile)
CDMA: 800, 850, 1900
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS/HSPA: 850, 1700, 1900
LTE: B2 (1900), B4 (1700), B5 (850), B12 (700), B17 (700), B25 (1900), B26 (850), LTE-TDD: B41 (2500)
Single SIM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_G_(3rd_generation)
This device should work in Ethiopia, at least as a basic GSM device, data above basic Edge service may not work.
According to GSM Arena, in that country 900Mhz is used for GSM, and 2100 Mhz for 3G, and 4G/LTE is not available. So the phone should work, but data service will not.
Virgin Mobile XT1548 Unlock
I have the Virgin Mobile XT1548 (on sale at Best Buy for $50 right now) and I'm trying to unlock it to work on T-Mobile. Has anyone managed to do this?
When I put a T-Mobile SIM card into the XT1548 no unlock window comes up, so I'm not holding my breath but it would be fantastic if anyone has found a way to unlock the Virgin Mobile version of the XT1548.
topmouse said:
I have the Virgin Mobile XT1548 (on sale at Best Buy for $50 right now) and I'm trying to unlock it to work on T-Mobile. Has anyone managed to do this?
When I put a T-Mobile SIM card into the XT1548 no unlock window comes up, so I'm not holding my breath but it would be fantastic if anyone has found a way to unlock the Virgin Mobile version of the XT1548.
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No unlock password prompt opens and no "Invalid SIM" icon appears in the notification bar? What does it show for SIM status in Settings - About Phone?
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acejavelin said:
No unlock password prompt opens and no "Invalid SIM" icon appears in the notification bar? What does it show for SIM status in Settings - About Phone?
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The odds that I'd run into a thread that's tailored to my question.
I placed my T-Mobile SIM into an XT1548 I just bought and... nothing. At all. It's like the SIM doesn't exist.
AwesomeTurtle said:
The odds that I'd run into a thread that's tailored to my question.
I placed my T-Mobile SIM into an XT1548 I just bought and... nothing. At all. It's like the SIM doesn't exist.
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Odd... And you did a reboot after inserting the SIM?
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Odd... And you did a reboot after inserting the SIM?
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Yep. Then I place the Virgin SIM back into it and it recognizes just fine. The T-Mobile SIM is brand new and activated. Purchased it with the phone.
acejavelin said:
No unlock password prompt opens and no "Invalid SIM" icon appears in the notification bar? What does it show for SIM status in Settings - About Phone?
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After a reboot, it does say "SIM card error" as a notification. If you click on that it takes you to a screen where it asks you to make sure the SIM card is inserted correctly and contact the service provider. Again nowhere to enter an unlock code.
SIM status in settings says: "Not available" for every field. I've tried all four different ways to insert the SIM card (in case I had it in wrong somehow) and still no luck.
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After a reboot, it does say "SIM card error" as a notification. If you click on that it takes you to a screen where it asks you to make sure the SIM card is inserted correctly and contact the service provider. Again nowhere to enter an unlock code.
SIM status in settings says: "Not available" for every field. I've tried all four different ways to insert the SIM card (in case I had it in wrong somehow) and still no luck.
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Hmm... I got nothing on this one I'm afraid. I've done this lots of times with other locked devices, always opens a SIM Lock password prompt, haven't tried a Moto since a Cricket version of the original G. Sorry.
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acejavelin said:
Hmm... I got nothing on this one I'm afraid. I've done this lots of times with other locked devices, always opens a SIM Lock password prompt, haven't tried a Moto since a Cricket version of the original G. Sorry.
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That's okay, I'm just hoping someone out there has an unlock and is willing to share it or offer it for sale. For $50 this phone is a STEAL if you could SIM unlock it. I'm partial to its IPX7 waterproof capability as well.
topmouse said:
That's okay, I'm just hoping someone out there has an unlock and is willing to share it or offer it for sale. For $50 this phone is a STEAL if you could SIM unlock it. I'm partial to its IPX7 waterproof capability as well.
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I'm actually on the same boat. If I figure something out, I will be sure to let you know.
Gonna try to flash CyanogenMod and maybe even some from http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/index-moto-g-factory-firmware-images-t3169639 if I'm feeling adventurous... Will report back.
I already unlocked the bootloader and I have CM13 already installed. I put an AT&T sim card when starting but I wasn't prompted for an unlock code. I did request an unlock code from www.doctorsim.com if that would even make a difference. I'm still waiting for it to be processed.
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The GS3 Verizon is a CDMA device. Supposedly it has GSM compatible radios too. It's supposed to be able to work on GSM networks after a software update coming soon. Does this thing have a sim card slot? I don't see how it would work on GSM networks without it. Does anyone know how this works?
I'm hoping to use it on Verizon in USA, but on Telcel while in Mexico BUT with my Telcel sim. I realize my hopes are slim but if there's a sim card slot maybe it's possible???
Thanks.
ckinninger said:
The GS3 Verizon is a CDMA device but it's supposed to be able to work on GSM networks after a software update coming soon. Does this thing have a sim card slot? I don't see how it would work on GSM networks without it. Does anyone know how this works?
I'm hoping to use it on Verizon in USA, but on Telcel while in Mexico BUT with my Telcel sim. I realize my hopes are slim but if there's a sim card slot maybe it's possible???
Thanks.
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It has a SIM card slot for the LTE. Unsure about compatibility though.
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It has a SIM card slot for the LTE. Unsure about compatibility though.
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Actually, I have an old Verizon Motorola Z6c World Phone here that I bought in 2008. It has a Verizon sim card inside.
Z6c Specs say:
2G Network GSM 900 / 1800
3G Network CDMA 1xEVDO (800 / 1900 MHz)
Anyway, there's no LTE involved on the Z6c back then. SO apparently the GS3 will need the sim on non CDMA networks. I just wonder if the software experts here can make it possible to use the sim only at certain times and at the same time unlock the phone.
A lot to ask but will be a huge feature if done.
ckinninger said:
Actually, I have an old Verizon Motorola Z6c World Phone here that I bought in 2008. It has a Verizon sim card inside.
Z6c Specs say:
2G Network GSM 900 / 1800
3G Network CDMA 1xEVDO (800 / 1900 MHz)
Anyway, there's no LTE involved on the Z6c back then. SO apparently the GS3 will need the sim on non CDMA networks. I just wonder if the software experts here can make it possible to use the sim only at certain times and at the same time unlock the phone.
A lot to ask but will be a huge feature if done.
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I said earlier that I wasn't sure about compatibility, but I'm starting to believe that this is not possible, as the Verizon version lacks the proper GSM/HSPA+ radios. There's a model comparison chart that you can expand on the Wikipedia page. Software probably won't be able to pull the miracle you're asking for. Sorry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_S3
Maybe this will help? http://androidcommunity.com/verizon-may-enable-global-roaming-on-lte-phones-soon-20120518/ from what I gather LTE is based off of GSM and its just a matter of unlocking the GSM bands on the phones.
seoulstyle said:
I said earlier that I wasn't sure about compatibility, but I'm starting to believe that this is not possible, as the Verizon version lacks the proper GSM/HSPA+ radios. There's a model comparison chart that you can expand on the Wikipedia page. Software probably won't be able to pull the miracle you're asking for. Sorry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy_S3
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The SCH-i535 did recieve GSM certification for bands 850 and 1900. No HSPA+ though.
bbeelzebub said:
The SCH-i535 did recieve GSM certification for bands 850 and 1900. No HSPA+ though.
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Yeah, I don't think the current specs out on the GS3 are totally complete. If the phone is admittedly needing a software update to allow the GSM roaming then they can't just put those bands in the specs with no caveats.
Got my FIDO Razr HD. Rogers SIM = all is good. AT&T sim = asks for unlock code, which i buy online.
After entering code, phone appears to do a factory reset. During the reboot, a box pops up:
"SIM not allowed MM #3"
Now the phone permits "Emergency Calls Only" with the AT&T sim. Rogers SIM = still good.
When I put AT&T sim into my other phone (HTC desire) it works fine on roaming (rogers network). So I know sim + signal is fine.
Don't understand this error message.
Did I mess up the unlock?
advice appreciated, thanks.
Do you have another Canadian SIM you can try? Bell/Telus etc?
grant2 said:
Got my FIDO Razr HD. Rogers SIM = all is good. AT&T sim = asks for unlock code, which i buy online.
After entering code, phone appears to do a factory reset. During the reboot, a box pops up:
"SIM not allowed MM #3"
Now the phone permits "Emergency Calls Only" with the AT&T sim. Rogers SIM = still good.
When I put AT&T sim into my other phone (HTC desire) it works fine on roaming (rogers network). So I know sim + signal is fine.
Don't understand this error message.
Did I mess up the unlock?
advice appreciated, thanks.
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Have you inserted your fido/rogers simcard when you are in usa... and roaming (put the phone on and get the att signal)... if yes... there are no solution you must roam with rogers... imei is recorded via att and you can t use att on your razr ;( this is a strange things... but is real ... many user report this ! ( not just with the razr ) this is not a phone problem
This is a very... great problem for traveller...
grant2 said:
Got my FIDO Razr HD. Rogers SIM = all is good. AT&T sim = asks for unlock code, which i buy online.
After entering code, phone appears to do a factory reset. During the reboot, a box pops up:
"SIM not allowed MM #3"
Now the phone permits "Emergency Calls Only" with the AT&T sim. Rogers SIM = still good.
When I put AT&T sim into my other phone (HTC desire) it works fine on roaming (rogers network). So I know sim + signal is fine.
Don't understand this error message.
Did I mess up the unlock?
advice appreciated, thanks.
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I was doing some research for you, have you tried using a different SIM card from AT&T? The SIM might be corrupted.
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Really not sure...
My fathers who travel in usa and canada... have tried 2 others att simcard ... same problems ...
i have see anothers topics on howardforum
o2qc418 said:
Really not sure...
My fathers who travel in usa and canada... have tried 2 others att simcard ... same problems ...
i have see anothers topics on howardforum
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Are the SIM cards prepaid or postpaid? Did you have to cut then yourself or were they already micro sized?
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I have try with a rogers xt925 last month ... tried with different sim... micro and regular... postpaid and prepaid too... have see many people in the same boat...
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If you think AT&T are blocking your phone, then why don't you try T-Mobile...?
... Yes no problem with tmobile or others prepaid carrier on att network...
You just don t roam on att with uour rogers simcard...
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Thanks for the replies everyone. to answer the questions:
1) i don't have any other sims right now: just rogers + ATT. Next time i am w/ friends I will ask to borrow telus/bell microsim.
2) they were regular sims that were cut down.
3) haven't had a chance to visit USA since posting topic- but when i do, i will test both cards and also visit an AT&T shop to bug them about it.
Is sim corrupted? I don't think so because it works fine in HTC desire. But I guess trying a new one will prove or disprove.
imei is recorded via att and you can t use att on your razr ;( this is a strange things... but is real ... many user report this ! ( not just with the razr ) this is not a phone problem
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How do we know this is happening, has someone from AT&T discussed this before?
grant2 said:
Thanks for the replies everyone. to answer the questions:
1) i don't have any other sims right now: just rogers + ATT. Next time i am w/ friends I will ask to borrow telus/bell microsim.
2) they were regular sims that were cut down.
3) haven't had a chance to visit USA since posting topic- but when i do, i will test both cards and also visit an AT&T shop to bug them about it.
Is sim corrupted? I don't think so because it works fine in HTC desire. But I guess trying a new one will prove or disprove.
How do we know this is happening, has someone from AT&T discussed this before?
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I want to let you know that I was able to use a Bell sim card in my phone. That's what I used to unlock it with.
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grant2 said:
Thanks for the replies everyone. to answer the questions:
1) i don't have any other sims right now: just rogers + ATT. Next time i am w/ friends I will ask to borrow telus/bell microsim.
2) they were regular sims that were cut down.
3) haven't had a chance to visit USA since posting topic- but when i do, i will test both cards and also visit an AT&T shop to bug them about it.
Is sim corrupted? I don't think so because it works fine in HTC desire. But I guess trying a new one will prove or disprove.
How do we know this is happening, has someone from AT&T discussed this before?
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I am using this phone with at&t with no problems, I took my sim out from my iphone 5 and used a adapter to go to micro sim and it works fine, no issues.
I'm receiving a Fido RAZR HD to be used with AT&T this afternoon, I'll let you guys know if there are any issues.
OOI, is AT&T seen as a much better GSM network than T-Mobile in the US?
I was looking at the T-Mo USA site, and there are some amazing "Monthly4G" SIM only plans (e.g. $30/month for 100 minutes, unlimited texts and 5GB of HSPA data).
This seems much better value than AT&T, Verizon and even Sprint! But is their network sketchy compared to the others?
Sumanji said:
OOI, is AT&T seen as a much better GSM network than T-Mobile in the US?
I was looking at the T-Mo USA site, and there are some amazing "Monthly4G" SIM only plans (e.g. $30/month for 100 minutes, unlimited texts and 5GB of HSPA data).
This seems much better value than AT&T, Verizon and even Sprint! But is their network sketchy compared to the others?
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AT&T offers the second largest network coverage behind Verizon. They are also one of the two GSM carriers in the United States, and tend to be more popular with mobile phone enthusiasts because their UMTS bands are more common and used with other regions such as Canada or Australia. T-Mobile does indeed offer excellent value, but they use mainly AWS band in addition to PCS band in selected regions, thus making them the lesser choice for using unlocked phones from outside the country.
Hey,
Just looking on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_Frequency_Summary
It looks like T-Mo mainly use 1900 for 2G and 1700 for 3G, whereas AT&T use 850 and 1900 for both 2G/3G, right?
So if I bought a Canadian Razr HD XT925 and came to the US, would I be able to use T-Mo's 3G network? I am guessing no, since it does not support 3G on 1700MHz.
But then there is a note on that Wiki page saying that they now have a roaming agreement with AT&T after the failed acquisition. So if I forced the phone into "WCDMA only" mode from the test menu, would it then fall back onto the AT&T 3G network?
Sorry for taking the thread slightly off topic
Cheers,
Su
Sumanji said:
Hey,
Just looking on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_Frequency_Summary
It looks like T-Mo mainly use 1900 for 2G and 1700 for 3G, whereas AT&T use 850 and 1900 for both 2G/3G, right?
So if I bought a Canadian Razr HD XT925 and came to the US, would I be able to use T-Mo's 3G network? I am guessing no, since it does not support 3G on 1700MHz.
But then there is a note on that Wiki page saying that they now have a roaming agreement with AT&T after the failed acquisition. So if I forced the phone into "WCDMA only" mode from the test menu, would it then fall back onto the AT&T 3G network?
Sorry for taking the thread slightly off topic
Cheers,
Su
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As you have read, T-Mobile did acquire PCS bands from the failed merger with AT&T, but these bands are not as utilized as their 850 MHz band so it's not as widely available as you may think. Some areas might be able to use the 1900 MHz band for T-Mobile 3G, but I would check with fellow T-Mobile users to confirm first before you dive in headfirst. I know that there are T-Mobile users in the Dallas-Fort Worth area that are getting 3G data connectivity with their unlocked AT&T iPhones.
Well T-Mo do daily plays for like 2 bucks right, so I can always try this out before committing to a contract
Do you think AT&T would be the better bet if I am bringing my own device from Europe?
The reason I ask is that I may be coming to a US college for a couple of years, so naturally, I'm planning ahead to see if my phone will work over there
Sumanji said:
Well T-Mo do daily plays for like 2 bucks right, so I can always try this out before committing to a contract
Do you think AT&T would be the better bet if I am bringing my own device from Europe?
The reason I ask is that I may be coming to a US college for a couple of years, so naturally, I'm planning ahead to see if my phone will work over there
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If you're using a device from Europe or Asia, then yes, you have a much higher chance of being able to get 3G connectivity with AT&T. Off the top of my head, Nokia seems to be the only one that tries to actively keep AWS band in their radios.
Hmm, so I did a bit of research on GSM Arena. Seems the Nexus line of devices consistently support 1700MHz 3G (including the Nexus S which I currently have).
Guess who cancelled their Nexus 4 order last week, and opted for a Canadian RAZR HD instead...
Whoops
The phone is only $99 on Verizon. I heard you needed to use the phone for 6 months before you can use it on another carrier
Anyway to get around this or has anyone actually done this yet? Want to make sure it works.
And are you still getting Verizon coverage on Straight Talk or how does that work?
Is there a 16gb CDMA version as well? Only saw an 8gb.
kaivorth said:
The phone is only $99 on Verizon. I heard you needed to use the phone for 6 months before you can use it on another carrier
Anyway to get around this or has anyone actually done this yet? Want to make sure it works.
And are you still getting Verizon coverage on Straight Talk or how does that work?
Is there a 16gb CDMA version as well? Only saw an 8gb.
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I think that Straight Talk is a GSM network so you would have to have the GSM model of the phone. I was under the impression that Straight Talk uses the T-Mobile network. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
romuloxiii said:
I think that Straight Talk is a GSM network so you would have to have the GSM model of the phone. I was under the impression that Straight Talk uses the T-Mobile network. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
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They have a CDMA card you can buy and register your phone on their network. I think it's kind of new. I'd link you but I'm on mobile
romuloxiii said:
I think that Straight Talk is a GSM network so you would have to have the GSM model of the phone. I was under the impression that Straight Talk uses the T-Mobile network. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
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Straight talk uses Sprint and Verizon CDMA networks as well as T-mobile and AT&T GSM networks...
I'm really not sure how the BYOD on CDMA works, I would like more info as well.
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Straight talk uses Sprint and Verizon CDMA networks as well as T-mobile and AT&T GSM networks...
I'm really not sure how the BYOD on CDMA works, I would like more info as well.
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Straight Talk (Verizon Wireless - CDMA) will require an access code to their network; $15.00. This applies to phones that do not have a SIM Card which the $99 8GB Motorola Moto G CDMA variant is. However, I did put the MEID for the device as to its compatibility on Straight Talk and was told it is not which makes no sense given if you have a GSM variant, it does not require a subsidy unlock code if the device is set up with either the AT&T and/or T-Mobile radios. I have to believe that the reason has to do with those stupid clauses which carriers have with their phones and however long they are. It's always been my understanding the code is what you need to run on their network. One caveat; I have noticed that on Verizon Wireless's prepaid "Everything" plan, the devices run only on their 3G network nor am I aware they have the 4G LTE radios in them. I've tested their 3G band and at best regardless of where I have tested it between Albany, GA; Columbus, GA; Auburn-Opelika, AL; the best speed I have had is tops 1.0 meg down but normally about 0.7 megs (700 k) down...enough to run Pandora or any music app. I will say one thing about the phone, for the price, not bad! I wish it was available when I bought an HTC One M7 I paid $650.00 for but I got the DE 64GB variant; this device, you do feel the 8GB restriction though there are many cloud options.
After several long calls with Verizon and help from Motorola insiders, I have been given to understand that:
1. Droid Maxx if not activated on Verizon, before leaving US, cannot be used on other carriers (say in Europe or Asia).
The reason is the SIM unlock cannot be done by the customer support since they won't see the device in their network if it is not activated first.
2. The activation cannot happen outside US, since Verizon does not have a network.
So bottom line is get the device activated before you import it from US.
Now, my Droid Maxx is locked to Verizon. I know the boot loader can be unlocked. Will this help me in flashing something that can get rid of the SIM lock that Verizon has in place.
My device is an employee edition so perhaps there was some extra protection added there by Verizon.
Please help.
I do not have a Maxx, but I'm replying because you PM'd me asking to take a look at this thread..
It has been my experience that Verizon's 4GLte phones are sim unlocked (on the GSM side) out of the box. I thought that was a condition of VZW's 700Mhz spectrum auction win? One potential issue is does the phone support the needed bands out of the box (think Bionic where a hack was needed to enable bands needed for T-mobile).
That being said, if your Maxx is truly SIM LOCKED, then unlocking the bootloader wont help you SIM unlock, nor will flashing a 3rd party Rom after unlocking the bootloader.
where are you located, and who is your carrier? Do they use CDMA for voice, or GSM? What happens when you put a non-VZW sim in the phone?
KidJoe said:
I do not have a Maxx, but I'm replying because you PM'd me asking to take a look at this thread..
It has been my experience that Verizon's 4GLte phones are sim unlocked (on the GSM side) out of the box. I thought that was a condition of VZW's 700Mhz spectrum auction win? One potential issue is does the phone support the needed bands out of the box (think Bionic where a hack was needed to enable bands needed for T-mobile).
That being said, if your Maxx is truly SIM LOCKED, then unlocking the bootloader wont help you SIM unlock, nor will flashing a 3rd party Rom after unlocking the bootloader.
where are you located, and who is your carrier? Do they use CDMA for voice, or GSM? What happens when you put a non-VZW sim in the phone?
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Thanks Mark.
The phone Droid Maxx does support these bands since there are others who are using the same phone on GSM networks in the country.
The networks in India are:
2G capabilities GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities UMTS 2100
4G capabilities LTE 2300 (this one won't work with the phone, plus my carrier does not have it either)
The CDMA is CDMA 2000 - but I have not been able to try with a CDMA SIM, but that one has a higher probability of working.
When I put a non-VZ SIM, and set to Global mode, it does not detect any signal and the search network does pretty much nothing. The automatic mode tries to connect but then throws an error saying "can't connect to this network at this time"
I am using a brand new nano SIM card (which now is back in my Moto Defy with an adapter.)
Earlier I had a normal SIM converted to a nano SIM and that one did not work, but after I put in APN manually, I was able to access data.
I tried another user's cut-nano SIM and that one worked for data out of the box (another GSM provider).
Ditto for me, but I am using DroidMini... I also have DroidMAXX which is working great (even unlocked its BL and rooted it)...
I am also from India... Using it in GSM networks... I may get one Nano CDMA SIM to test later and will report here for sure...
Thanks...
kanagadeepan said:
Ditto for me, but I am using DroidMini... I also have DroidMAXX which is working great (even unlocked its BL and rooted it)...
I am also from India... Using it in GSM networks... I may get one Nano CDMA SIM to test later and will report here for sure...
Thanks...
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Well, we have interacted on Rimweb recently.
The radio on the Droid series is the same. The difference between the mini and the maxx in your case is that the mini has never been activated on VZ network and hence it is SIM locked. Whereas, the Maxx would have been purchased as a used item (perhaps just activated and then sold off?). So that takes care of the SIM unlock part.
Yesterday I spend around 60 minutes with global support, VZ.
I escalated the issue to the supervisor.
He checked and said that the IMEI is clean and not in any sort of negative list. So there is nothing else that they can do.
He also said, the phones are unlocked by default for global use.
Obviously they don't want to dig deeper into why three phones are not working on GSM in India.
I am now running out of avenues. Does anyone have some debugging tool which can log what is happening when the phone tries to log on to the network?
s_u_n said:
Thanks Mark.
The phone Droid Maxx does support these bands since there are others who are using the same phone on GSM networks in the country.
The networks in India are:
2G capabilities GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities UMTS 2100
4G capabilities LTE 2300 (this one won't work with the phone, plus my carrier does not have it either)
The CDMA is CDMA 2000 - but I have not been able to try with a CDMA SIM, but that one has a higher probability of working.
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The current Droid Maxx that Verizon sells supports the following..
LTE Band 13/4 700/1700
EDGE/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900,
HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 (download speeds to 42.2 Mbps, upload speeds to 5.76 Mbps
From what you listed, the Maxx should get GSM/Edge/HSPA/UMTS coverage there. And of course, no LTE.
The CDMA side of the Verizon phones is still "locked" so I also would not expect CDMA to work. In other words, if your carrier NEEDS CDMA, stop trying.
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When I put a non-VZ SIM, and set to Global mode, it does not detect any signal and the search network does pretty much nothing. The automatic mode tries to connect but then throws an error saying "can't connect to this network at this time"
I am using a brand new nano SIM card (which now is back in my Moto Defy with an adapter.)
Earlier I had a normal SIM converted to a nano SIM and that one did not work, but after I put in APN manually, I was able to access data.
I tried another user's cut-nano SIM and that one worked for data out of the box (another GSM provider).
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I've been through this with some trying the Moto X in India, and I've been through it while trying my T-Mobile and ATT sim's in my Verizon Moto X.
From what you are describing, it sounds like your APN settings for your carrier on the phone are not set right.
Example... When I put my T-Mobile SIM into my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4, I get "unknown sim" and bars, but no network connectivity. Nothing works. By going into the mobile network settings on the phone and adding an APN with the T-Mobile settings, features like calling, SMS, data, etc. start working. I have had occasions where I thought I had the APN right, as calls and data worked, but MMS only partially worked (would send but not receive). When I do have the settings right, everything works. Similar thing happens on my Moto X with T-Mobile SIM.
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s_u_n said:
Yesterday I spend around 60 minutes with global support, VZ.
I escalated the issue to the supervisor.
He checked and said that the IMEI is clean and not in any sort of negative list. So there is nothing else that they can do.
He also said, the phones are unlocked by default for global use.
Obviously they don't want to dig deeper into why three phones are not working on GSM in India.
I am now running out of avenues. Does anyone have some debugging tool which can log what is happening when the phone tries to log on to the network?
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Unless you have an active account with Verizon, and are trying to use their service when traveling, Verizon wont help you. In other words, unless you are trying to get your Verizon phone, working on Verizon's Global Roaming service, on your currently active Verizon account, they wont help you.
Even if you are a Verizon customer who is just traveling and popped out your VZW SIM in favor of using a local prepay sim to save data/voice costs, once you pop that VZW SIM out, they wont assist.
But you have received confirmation of what I said.. the GSM side is unlocked.
The SIM you are trying to use is from a GSM India carrier? As long as they only use GSM (no CDMA required), your only hope will be working with them. Telling them your phone is SIM Unlocked and going from there. Or finding a local message board for the carrier, and hope people are discussing use of "3rd party" phones, and you might get some help there.
I really think it will come down to the APN settings for the GSM carrier not being correct on the Maxx.
I can't offer any more than that. Sorry.
KidJoe said:
The current Droid Maxx that Verizon sells supports the following..
LTE Band 13/4 700/1700
EDGE/GSM: 850/900/1800/1900,
HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 (download speeds to 42.2 Mbps, upload speeds to 5.76 Mbps
From what you listed, the Maxx should get GSM/Edge/HSPA/UMTS coverage there. And of course, no LTE.
The CDMA side of the Verizon phones is still "locked" so I also would not expect CDMA to work. In other words, if your carrier NEEDS CDMA, stop trying.
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I have now put in a CDMA SIM card, but run into another problem with that. I will activate that SIM on another phone and then pop it in the Maxx again and check. But CDMA should work fine as reported by other users.
But the problem is the GSM part, because that is what we need to get working.
Unless you have an active account with Verizon, and are trying to use their service when traveling, Verizon wont help you. In other words, unless you are trying to get your Verizon phone, working on Verizon's Global Roaming service, on your currently active Verizon account, they wont help you.
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That is bad on the part of Verizon. I have purchased a Verizon device off-contract and that device is a global one. So I am entitled to some support from them even if I am without a service plan.
The SIM you are trying to use is from a GSM India carrier? As long as they only use GSM (no CDMA required), your only hope will be working with them. Telling them your phone is SIM Unlocked and going from there. Or finding a local message board for the carrier, and hope people are discussing use of "3rd party" phones, and you might get some help there.
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Yes. Local carrier. And for now, there are three such XDA members who have been facing the same issue. In one case, a member was able to make calls and receive calls and also use data. Then after a few minutes, the SIM invalid message popped up.
I really think it will come down to the APN settings for the GSM carrier not being correct on the Maxx.
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APN settings are pretty easy. I did that with my earlier SIM and I got data working. There was no voice, so I gave that SIM back to the carrier and got a brand new nano SIM. Now, nothing works. The old and new SIM are for the same number and same service provider.
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s_u_n said:
APN settings are pretty easy. I did that with my earlier SIM and I got data working. There was no voice, so I gave that SIM back to the carrier and got a brand new nano SIM. Now, nothing works. The old and new SIM are for the same number and same service provider.
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Right, you got just DATA working with the APN settings, but the correct APN settings are also needed for SMS, MMS, Phone calls, etc.
I've had an issue where I had voice but no data, and it was related to APN. I've had an issue where I had voice, SMS, data but no MMS, again, it was related to APN settings for the carrier you are using.
So good luck!
the problem we sorted out to get gsm working in india first the phone must be activated on usa to get it work on india so can anyone help us > @s_u_n
So, after using the phone for a week on GSM with all application updates installed, I can safely state that
1. Verizon activation is not needed for non-VZ networks to work (at least outside US).
2. A full FXZ was installed and it probably solved the modem configuration mess that the phone might have been. Perhaps it unlocked something?
3. Four corner activation bypass method was used (as described in earlier Motorola phones).
Either 2 or 3 solved the problem
There was nothing to do with APN. Data works even without any APN settings out here, just like on my Motorola Defy.
Can anyone tell me if the phones is region locked? Thanks
i am not sure what you are looking for but i do know that there is a thread on here where someone tried a Verizon SIM in a Tmob and ATT S6 and neither one worked on Verizon.
Generally Verizon phones are SIM unlocked so u can use them on Tom or att but don't expect to get lte coverage since the phones have different bands enabled.
fletch33 said:
i am not sure what you are looking for but i do know that there is a thread on here where someone tried a Verizon SIM in a Tmob and ATT S6 and neither one worked on Verizon.
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That's because those don't have CDMA radios, and at least the AT&T one is locked. Verizon phones come SIM-unlocked and work with other carriers. If you use a T-Mobile SIM you'll see an "unknown SIM" message, but it will work assuming the bands match. You should be able to get LTE with T-Mobile as most of their network uses band 4.
He means region locked, like usa
geoff5093 said:
That's because those don't have CDMA radios, and at least the AT&T one is locked. Verizon phones come SIM-unlocked and work with other carriers. If you use a T-Mobile SIM you'll see an "unknown SIM" message, but it will work assuming the bands match. You should be able to get LTE with T-Mobile as most of their network uses band 4.
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Anyway to get rid of this message? My g2 I had to root it to get rid of it. I hope I don't have to root the s6 just for that because it gets really anoying just having the icon showing unknown sim the whole time.
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